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Flac -
I tend to ignore questions which we both know you could answer yourself, or which are wildly off-topic.
If you have a serious question - ask it here and you have my word that I will answer it.
So you're telling ALL of us here that YOU don't see ANY environmental issues AT ALL with widespread adoption of this measly energy technology????
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You really have no idea WHAT you're invested in do you?? TidGEN in the picture I supplied is one of the WORLDS MOST DEPLOYED tidal turbines with more sea experience than most other companies combined... Spare me what "most tidal turbines" look like...
I think not.
Perhaps you American products are, as I suggested, massively outdated.
This is what most turbines look like in the modern age:
Flac -
If your project is so great - why does it produce only 16KW of power?
You are that modern projects are looking to produce 1,000MW of power?
Any decent turbine these days is going to produce at LEAST 10 MW, surely?
The pics I posted before are from projects already up and running in Korea, New Zealand, Scotland, Northern Ireland etc...
Maybe but just maybe they`ll get a 10 MW name plate rating for that if they manage to achieve 80% of the theoretical Albert Betz limit which is 59.3 % of the kinetic wind energy.The B75 blade is the world's largest fiberglass component cast in one piece. The manufacturing process posed several challenges for the project team. In particular, the mold had to consist of two parts so that it could be transported
She actually nailed itYou didn't read my entire post.
"But even where windmills are viable, why is there just one type - those mega giant huge ugly things? Why aren't there smaller ones on the market for smaller communities or farms? Where are the horizontal windmills?"
Remember the old-fashioned windmills that used to be on EVERY farm? Why aren't they being remanufactured for power in farming communities and schools?
And just how many of these 1000 MW tidal projects do You think Americans should build ? You should come over here some time and see how serious Americans are about their sea food...hey I think it tops what the sea food restaurants serve up in Finland any day..!!!modern projects are looking to produce 1,000MW of power
I just did tell You about tidal...:Polar bear -
We are talking about TIDAL turbines - not wind.
And with Your tidal power You were also way off the mark. The U.S. department of Energy estimates that the entire tidal power potential for the ENTIRE U.S. east & west coast is 2,640 (TWH/yr) ...1 terra watt per year is 114 MW, ...so You would have to barricade the coastline for an entire state like Main, Maryland or Florida with these tidal turbines.
I think the guys who make their living fishing with nets would get pretty pissed off when their nets get trashed or tangled in one of Your how did You put it..:
And just how many of these 1000 MW tidal projects do You think Americans should build ? You should come over here some time and see how serious Americans are about their sea food...hey I think it tops what the sea food restaurants serve up in Finland any day..!!!modern projects are looking to produce 1,000MW of power
Because Granny --- Wind in "small scale" enviros is not productive. Doesn't help a school to go dark 3 days a week when the wind doesn't blow. And if it blows at night on a farm, it's NOT THERE to use the next day... Makes little economic sense or we would have seen WIDESPREAD worldwide adoption 40 years ago.. The tech for "small turbines" hasn't changed since then..
It's only feasible on LARGE SCALE farms with huge taxpayer subsidies and backed up by a fully functional Nat Gas, Nuclear, or Coal plant for the days and times when NOT A DROP of energy is being produced...
BTW: I BELIEVE that those "old fashioned windmills" on farms were used solely to pump WATER and not largely to generate electricity.. Something that's no longer required once you're connected to the grid...
Those tidal mills - could they be used in the Great Lakes? There's not a lot of edible fish in Lake Erie to worry about.
Flac -
If your project is so great - why does it produce only 16KW of power?
You are that modern projects are looking to produce 1,000MW of power?
Any decent turbine these days is going to produce at LEAST 10 MW, surely?
The pics I posted before are from projects already up and running in Korea, New Zealand, Scotland, Northern Ireland etc...
Because Granny --- Wind in "small scale" enviros is not productive. Doesn't help a school to go dark 3 days a week when the wind doesn't blow. And if it blows at night on a farm, it's NOT THERE to use the next day... Makes little economic sense or we would have seen WIDESPREAD worldwide adoption 40 years ago.. The tech for "small turbines" hasn't changed since then..
It's only feasible on LARGE SCALE farms with huge taxpayer subsidies and backed up by a fully functional Nat Gas, Nuclear, or Coal plant for the days and times when NOT A DROP of energy is being produced...
BTW: I BELIEVE that those "old fashioned windmills" on farms were used solely to pump WATER and not largely to generate electricity.. Something that's no longer required once you're connected to the grid...
I'm not saying that alternative energy should be the only source. They would simply be using less off the grid. Farms and schools both run lights and heaters (or fans) at night.
And yeah, the old windmills were used as water pumps. That's why they'd have to be remanufactred and updated. Actually it would be a good idea for the total-electric homes, especially those that have wells.
I know what a car alternator would do in a home application, it would keep the fridge and the (gas) furnace going, charge backup batteries and maybe a couple lights could be turned on. Not much more, but that would do in a power outage. Would an oldschool windmill be enough to turn the alternator?
I just did tell You about tidal...:Polar bear -
We are talking about TIDAL turbines - not wind.
And with Your tidal power You were also way off the mark. The U.S. department of Energy estimates that the entire tidal power potential for the ENTIRE U.S. east & west coast is 2,640 (TWH/yr) ...1 terra watt per year is 114 MW, ...so You would have to barricade the coastline for an entire state like Main, Maryland or Florida with these tidal turbines.
I think the guys who make their living fishing with nets would get pretty pissed off when their nets get trashed or tangled in one of Your how did You put it..:
And just how many of these 1000 MW tidal projects do You think Americans should build ? You should come over here some time and see how serious Americans are about their sea food...hey I think it tops what the sea food restaurants serve up in Finland any day..!!!modern projects are looking to produce 1,000MW of power
Or are You demanding that I must address each of Your statements with a separate posting..???
You are a typical European. There are 2 categories. The well to do try to imitate Americans and the rest hate Americans because they are not as successful.
I dug up a CD one of my friends has sent me about 12 years ago. He gave his daughter Karin a brand new motorcycle and an all expenses paid trip to Your "arctic" in Europe. He is in the publishing business and wanted to make sure nobody bothers his girl, so he hired 2 bikers as escorts and sent a professional film crew along to document Karin`s "arctic adventure"...if I were You I`ld shut up about "environmental protection" seeing what a Disney Kitsch Tourist Trap You guys made out of Your arctic circle segment in Europe....:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOX_ZkLOxdk&list=UUvj7dbOY14kt_MFIR1Y1iwA&index=1&feature=plcp]Karin`s Arctic Trip.wmv - YouTube[/ame]
Next Year Karin wants to visit me and see THE REAL ARCTIC...Like ALASKA...You know , "evil big oil Alaska"... it`s got anything You got beat by a long shot
You really have no idea WHAT you're invested in do you?? TidGEN in the picture I supplied is one of the WORLDS MOST DEPLOYED tidal turbines with more sea experience than most other companies combined... Spare me what "most tidal turbines" look like...
I think not.
Perhaps you American products are, as I suggested, massively outdated.
This is what most turbines look like in the modern age:
SShhhh... -- they have to waste a lot of money and time finding out about efficient marine blade design FIRST. Then they will realize why the first REAL INSTALLATIONS are gonna look more like giant combines or pinwheels and less like props on a DC3...
Actually the top one he presented IS the design for the Hammerslog 1000 ((sp?) .. Which is in testing in Scotlan right now.. NOT WIDELY DEPLOYED as Saigon asserted. I want to see that "pitch reverse" feature work after the barnacles get a hold of it..
So You liked our clan reunion..Thanks for Your reply. But Now I have a question for You, Westwall and "Grandma". The town of Meredith (NY) has made a documentary about their windmill nightmare and sent it to Canada, presumably because the U.S. main stream (left wing) media did not want to show it on television. But it could be that some other U.S. channel which is not on my dial aired it since then and I missed it. The title of this documentary is "Windfall". Anyhow our, believe it or not LEFT-lobbed CBC Canada actually aired it today at prime time, after some e-mail bullying...but I missed it, because of our clan re-union. So I stayed up till after midnight when the CBC aired it a second time and recorded it. If that documentary has been aired in the U.S. then I won`t bother uploading it later in the wee hours of the morning to my YouTube channel, but if it has not been seen in the U.S. then I feel it is my duty to put it on my YouTube channel. It is 1 hour long but it is a desperate cry for help going out to the rest of America from this town and a few more...and if it`s on YouTube then it stays public and You guys can link to it....unlike a TV documentary which is over when it`s over.SShhhh... -- they have to waste a lot of money and time finding out about efficient marine blade design FIRST. Then they will realize why the first REAL INSTALLATIONS are gonna look more like giant combines or pinwheels and less like props on a DC3...
Actually the top one he presented IS the design for the Hammerslog 1000 ((sp?) .. Which is in testing in Scotlan right now.. NOT WIDELY DEPLOYED as Saigon asserted. I want to see that "pitch reverse" feature work after the barnacles get a hold of it..