Shut up, stupid.
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Shut up, stupid.
It was a spot on direct comment to your right wing fear porn fantasy.
Nobody wants to hear a grown man whine.
I see we have reached your intellectual ceiling.
I see we have reached your intellectual ceiling.
Well they can argue that Hasidic and Amish parents are "abusing" their kids by denying them modern technology, education in modern ideas, and damning the females to a "life of servitude"
How is it a defection when the entire thread is a made up scenario?another deflection from a leftist ...
That this can even be suggested, that teaching and raising children in any legitimate religion, is in any way comparable to filling their heads with harmful, destructive falsehoods such as gender confusion, is itself a sign of how fucked-up our society is.
No sane person would even think of buying such an argument.
It may be, but using government force to correct it just opens the door to the side that LOVES to use government force to twist its application even further in their own interests.
Ultimately, all laws are based on some concept of what is acceptable, and what is not.
Here, we are talking about conduct that any sane, reasonable person ought to be able to recognize as clearly unacceptable and abusive, to the degree that some authority need to intervene in order to protect the child from being abused in a manner that has a very good chance of seriously harming that child.
If government should not intervene here, then you're throwing the door wide open to argue that government should not interfere in any seriously abusive criminal behavior.
Not at all. I'm drawing the line. Now if said parents wanted to pump said kids full of hormones or mutilate them, THAT is abuse.
It's the same abuse, at different levels of severity.
As soon as you cross the line of intentionally confusing/deceiving a child about his sex, you're getting into John Money territory.
scenario or not a straight answer isnt hard .How is it a defection when the entire thread is a made up scenario?
the op asked if such a scenario would be abuse .. a simple yes or no answer is not hard .How is it a defection when the entire thread is a made up scenario?
One could say that about raising a kid as Amish or an orthodox jew, or on a commune.As soon as you cross the line of intentionally confusing/deceiving a child about his sex, you're getting into John Money territory.
Had to look that guy up. Man what a creep.
Yes, of course raising a child as a different sex against their will would be wrong and abuse.the op asked if such a scenario would be abuse .. a simple yes or no answer is not hard .
I think that it takes a severe degree of being mentally- and spiritually fucked up to think that there is anything valid about that comparison.
You might have something approaching a valid point when you are talking about some religions that have prohibitions on medical care, and a child with a life-threatening condition which requires medical treatments that violate the parent's religion.
The point is then, that how is it any less abuse if the parent claims that their child - from four years old - has always wanted to be treated as the opposite gender?Yes, of course raising a child as a different sex against their will would be wrong and abuse.
Is anyone disagreeing? It’s like a straw man argument designed solely to rile up the rubes