Zone1 Worshipping Mary

[ninja007]

Yes, it is. It begins with the angel heralding the birth of Jesus. He appears to Mary with the greeting, "Hail, Mary..."

What began the fall of man? It was the disobedience of a woman. What was the first step towards our redemption? It was the obedience of a woman.

The rosary takes us through the life of Christ, the history of our redemption and the way of salvation. Jesus is our King...and by definition, the king's mother is given the title of Queen--the Queen Mother. Paul tells us that Jesus is the new Adam...obedient. And the story of Mary begins with the same--obedience--the new Eve.

The rosary is our Biblical story The rosary begins with Genesis and straight through to Revelation with Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit...

There is no need to justify why one does not pray the rosary or to make up false claims that it is not Biblical. In fact, it is a prayer of recognition of the power and the glory of God--His work of our redemption and our salvation...a prayer of thanksgiving.

which verse is the rosary in?

 

[ninja007]

Better yet, there should be enough good to post about one's own religion that one doesn't have to go inventing things about another religion.

Is praying the rosary biblical?​

Historically, the rosary was intended by the Roman Catholic Church as an affordable way to teach and recite prayers. During medieval times, there were many faithful who could not afford a Psalter (a written collection of the Psalms) or who were entirely illiterate. Traveling priests would use strings of beads to help people memorize and recite Scripture (What is the Rosary, and the History of the Rosary | The Catholic Company®). It grew from there to encompass prayers associated with the life of Jesus. As a tool to teach prayer and meditation, the original intentions and uses of the rosary were in line with Scripture's emphasis on both.

However, it is in the "Hail Mary" and "holy Queen" sections of the rosary, as well as the promised expectations of the rote prayers, that we do not find any scriptural basis. In fact, praying to Mary is directly against the Bible's teaching. Our prayer should only ever be directed to God (Hebrews 4:14–16; 7:25; 10:19–22; Romans 8:26–27). Treating prayer as a formula that leads to our intended end or produces a specific benefit if said the correct way the correct number of times is a complete misunderstanding of the nature and purpose of prayer (Matthew 6:5–13; 1 John 5:14–15).

The Hail Mary prayer is based on Luke 1:26–33, when the angel Gabriel appeared to tell Mary that she would become the mother of Jesus, the Savior. Gabriel greets Mary by saying, "Greetings, O favored one, the Lord is with you!" (Luke 1:28). The word "greetings" (chairo in Greek) can also be translated as "hail" or "ave," which has the weight of formality and honor usually reserved for kings. Certain translations of this interaction render it, "Hail Mary, full of grace," which is the basis of the rosary prayer.

There is no argument that Mary was indeed a very special person in God's plan for humanity's redemption. The point at which we must distinguish what is and is not scriptural is attributing to Mary any kind of ability to intercede on our behalf or to see her as one outside the need of the saving grace only available through Jesus Christ. The emphasis on praying to Mary through the rosary is based on a belief that she was somehow sinless and so close to God as to be one who could intercede for others. There is nowhere in the Bible that we see this. In fact, Scripture is very clear that we have only one mediator and that is Jesus Christ (1 Timothy 2:5).

Likewise, praying the rosary has been associated with promises like removal of sin, special graces and protection, receiving anything they pray for, special standings in heaven, and so on. Again, there is no biblical basis for these promises associated with a recitation of certain prayers in a certain order a certain number of times (Matthew 6:7–8). The removal of sin is only by grace through faith in Jesus Christ (Ephesians 2:4–9). All those who believe are promised the same spiritual protection and grace, and nowhere are we promised to have our prayers answered exactly how we would like them to be answered. All is grace in Christ Jesus.

Our example for prayer comes from Jesus Himself. Though Jesus' model of prayer, often referred to as the Lord's Prayer (Matthew 6:5–15), is included in the praying of the rosary, as well as used by rote in Protestant churches, Jesus modeled an intimate prayer life with God that was not by memorization but through honest, fervent prayers like the one in the garden of Gethsemane (Luke 22:39–46). It is not wrong to pray the prayers we see in Scripture or other biblically-sound, pre-written prayers; but we are to pray with our minds and our hearts (1 Corinthians 14:15; John 4:24), actually communicating with our heavenly Father, not merely reciting words. This is the type of prayer life God wants for us in our relationship with Him (Philippians 4:8; 1 Thessalonians 5:17; Hebrews 4:14–16; 10:19–23). All the spiritual blessings and inheritance of faith we enjoy are because of and through Jesus Christ, the only Savior (Ephesians 1:3–14). Is praying the rosary biblical?

 

[ninja007]

I'm not Catholic, but I respect their faith.

Veneration is not the same as idolatry.

slippery slope, veneration is a sin.

 

[ninja007]

Better yet, there should be enough good to post about one's own religion that one doesn't have to go inventing things about another religion.

im being a berean of Gods word like true believers are told.

 

[ninja007]

- sadly k9 may no longer be with / us.

how do you know?

 

[ninja007]

Yes, it is. It begins with the angel heralding the birth of Jesus. He appears to Mary with the greeting, "Hail, Mary..."

What began the fall of man? It was the disobedience of a woman. What was the first step towards our redemption? It was the obedience of a woman.

The rosary takes us through the life of Christ, the history of our redemption and the way of salvation. Jesus is our King...and by definition, the king's mother is given the title of Queen--the Queen Mother. Paul tells us that Jesus is the new Adam...obedient. And the story of Mary begins with the same--obedience--the new Eve.

The rosary is our Biblical story The rosary begins with Genesis and straight through to Revelation with Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit...

There is no need to justify why one does not pray the rosary or to make up false claims that it is not Biblical. In fact, it is a prayer of recognition of the power and the glory of God--His work of our redemption and our salvation...a prayer of thanksgiving.

are you an angel?

 

[surada]

slippery slope, veneration is a sin.

Nope. Look up the definition of the word .

 

[ninja007]

Nope. Look up the definition of the word .

veneration isnt in the bible.

 

[ninja007]

Nope. Look up the definition of the word .

What is the difference between veneration and worship?​

Answer

In response to the accusation that they worship Mary and the saints, Catholics will often claim that they “venerate,” not worship, them. To venerate is to regard with great respect or to revere. Veneration can be defined as “respect or awe directed toward someone due to his/her value or greatness.”

The simplest definition of worship is to “ascribe worth.” Worship can be more completely defined as “showing respect, love, reverence, or adoration.” Based on the dictionary, no clear difference between veneration and worship exists. In fact, veneration and worship are often used as synonyms for each other.

But dictionary definitions are not the point. It does not matter what it is called. The Bible nowhere instructs followers of Jesus Christ to offer worship, veneration, adoration, or anything similar to anyone but God. Nowhere does the New Testament describe any followers of Jesus Christ worshiping, venerating, or adoring anyone other than God. They did not receive worship, either. Peter refused to receive adoration from Cornelius (Acts 10:25–26), and Paul and Barnabas were equally adamant that the people of Lystra not venerate them (Acts 14:15). Twice in the Book of Revelation (Revelation 19:10; 22:8), the apostle John begins to worship an angel, and the angel instructs him, “Worship God!” Mary and the saints who have gone to heaven before us would say the same thing: “Worship God!”

The Catholic Church has different degrees of worship: dulia, hyper dulia, and latria. Dulia is the honor given to the saints. Hyper dulia is the honor given to Mary alone, as the greatest of the saints. Latria is the honor given to God alone. In contrast, the Bible always ascribes honor, in the context of worship, to God alone (1 Chronicles 29:11; 1 Timothy 1:17; 6:16; Revelation 4:11; 5:13). Even if there were biblical support for different levels of worship, there still would be no biblical support for offering lower/lesser levels of worship to anyone other than God.

Only God is worthy of worship, adoration, praise (Nehemiah 9:6; Revelation 4:11; 15:4), and veneration, no matter how it is defined. Mary’s worth comes from the fact that God choose her for a glorious role and saved her from her sins through the death of Jesus Christ (Luke 1:47). The saints’ worth comes from the fact that God saved them, transformed them, and then used them in mighty and amazing ways. May we all, with Mary and the saints, fall on our knees and worship the only One who is worthy.

 

[surada]

What is the difference between veneration and worship?​

Answer

In response to the accusation that they worship Mary and the saints, Catholics will often claim that they “venerate,” not worship, them. To venerate is to regard with great respect or to revere. Veneration can be defined as “respect or awe directed toward someone due to his/her value or greatness.”

The simplest definition of worship is to “ascribe worth.” Worship can be more completely defined as “showing respect, love, reverence, or adoration.” Based on the dictionary, no clear difference between veneration and worship exists. In fact, veneration and worship are often used as synonyms for each other.

But dictionary definitions are not the point. It does not matter what it is called. The Bible nowhere instructs followers of Jesus Christ to offer worship, veneration, adoration, or anything similar to anyone but God. Nowhere does the New Testament describe any followers of Jesus Christ worshiping, venerating, or adoring anyone other than God. They did not receive worship, either. Peter refused to receive adoration from Cornelius (Acts 10:25–26), and Paul and Barnabas were equally adamant that the people of Lystra not venerate them (Acts 14:15). Twice in the Book of Revelation (Revelation 19:10; 22:8), the apostle John begins to worship an angel, and the angel instructs him, “Worship God!” Mary and the saints who have gone to heaven before us would say the same thing: “Worship God!”

The Catholic Church has different degrees of worship: dulia, hyper dulia, and latria. Dulia is the honor given to the saints. Hyper dulia is the honor given to Mary alone, as the greatest of the saints. Latria is the honor given to God alone. In contrast, the Bible always ascribes honor, in the context of worship, to God alone (1 Chronicles 29:11; 1 Timothy 1:17; 6:16; Revelation 4:11; 5:13). Even if there were biblical support for different levels of worship, there still would be no biblical support for offering lower/lesser levels of worship to anyone other than God.

Only God is worthy of worship, adoration, praise (Nehemiah 9:6; Revelation 4:11; 15:4), and veneration, no matter how it is defined. Mary’s worth comes from the fact that God choose her for a glorious role and saved her from her sins through the death of Jesus Christ (Luke 1:47). The saints’ worth comes from the fact that God saved them, transformed them, and then used them in mighty and amazing ways. May we all, with Mary and the saints, fall on our knees and worship the only One who is worthy.

What is the difference between veneration and worship?​

Answer

In response to the accusation that they worship Mary and the saints, Catholics will often claim that they “venerate,” not worship, them. To venerate is to regard with great respect or to revere. Veneration can be defined as “respect or awe directed toward someone due to his/her value or greatness.”

The simplest definition of worship is to “ascribe worth.” Worship can be more completely defined as “showing respect, love, reverence, or adoration.” Based on the dictionary, no clear difference between veneration and worship exists. In fact, veneration and worship are often used as synonyms for each other.

But dictionary definitions are not the point. It does not matter what it is called. The Bible nowhere instructs followers of Jesus Christ to offer worship, veneration, adoration, or anything similar to anyone but God. Nowhere does the New Testament describe any followers of Jesus Christ worshiping, venerating, or adoring anyone other than God. They did not receive worship, either. Peter refused to receive adoration from Cornelius (Acts 10:25–26), and Paul and Barnabas were equally adamant that the people of Lystra not venerate them (Acts 14:15). Twice in the Book of Revelation (Revelation 19:10; 22:8), the apostle John begins to worship an angel, and the angel instructs him, “Worship God!” Mary and the saints who have gone to heaven before us would say the same thing: “Worship God!”

The Catholic Church has different degrees of worship: dulia, hyper dulia, and latria. Dulia is the honor given to the saints. Hyper dulia is the honor given to Mary alone, as the greatest of the saints. Latria is the honor given to God alone. In contrast, the Bible always ascribes honor, in the context of worship, to God alone (1 Chronicles 29:11; 1 Timothy 1:17; 6:16; Revelation 4:11; 5:13). Even if there were biblical support for different levels of worship, there still would be no biblical support for offering lower/lesser levels of worship to anyone other than God.

Only God is worthy of worship, adoration, praise (Nehemiah 9:6; Revelation 4:11; 15:4), and veneration, no matter how it is defined. Mary’s worth comes from the fact that God choose her for a glorious role and saved her from her sins through the death of Jesus Christ (Luke 1:47). The saints’ worth comes from the fact that God saved them, transformed them, and then used them in mighty and amazing ways. May we all, with Mary and the saints, fall on our knees and worship the only One who is worthy.

What is the difference between veneration and worship?​

Answer

In response to the accusation that they worship Mary and the saints, Catholics will often claim that they “venerate,” not worship, them. To venerate is to regard with great respect or to revere. Veneration can be defined as “respect or awe directed toward someone due to his/her value or greatness.”

The simplest definition of worship is to “ascribe worth.” Worship can be more completely defined as “showing respect, love, reverence, or adoration.” Based on the dictionary, no clear difference between veneration and worship exists. In fact, veneration and worship are often used as synonyms for each other.

But dictionary definitions are not the point. It does not matter what it is called. The Bible nowhere instructs followers of Jesus Christ to offer worship, veneration, adoration, or anything similar to anyone but God. Nowhere does the New Testament describe any followers of Jesus Christ worshiping, venerating, or adoring anyone other than God. They did not receive worship, either. Peter refused to receive adoration from Cornelius (Acts 10:25–26), and Paul and Barnabas were equally adamant that the people of Lystra not venerate them (Acts 14:15). Twice in the Book of Revelation (Revelation 19:10; 22:8), the apostle John begins to worship an angel, and the angel instructs him, “Worship God!” Mary and the saints who have gone to heaven before us would say the same thing: “Worship God!”

The Catholic Church has different degrees of worship: dulia, hyper dulia, and latria. Dulia is the honor given to the saints. Hyper dulia is the honor given to Mary alone, as the greatest of the saints. Latria is the honor given to God alone. In contrast, the Bible always ascribes honor, in the context of worship, to God alone (1 Chronicles 29:11; 1 Timothy 1:17; 6:16; Revelation 4:11; 5:13). Even if there were biblical support for different levels of worship, there still would be no biblical support for offering lower/lesser levels of worship to anyone other than God.

Only God is worthy of worship, adoration, praise (Nehemiah 9:6; Revelation 4:11; 15:4), and veneration, no matter how it is defined. Mary’s worth comes from the fact that God choose her for a glorious role and saved her from her sins through the death of Jesus Christ (Luke 1:47). The saints’ worth comes from the fact that God saved them, transformed them, and then used them in mighty and amazing ways. May we all, with Mary and the saints, fall on our knees and worship the only One who is worthy.

There are also excellent articles defending the Catholic Church and explaining the difference between generation and idolatry.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

RCC true believers can act in the theatre of cruelty as good as any evangelical bearer of the gospel.

 

[Zebra]

I'm not Catholic, but I respect their faith.

Veneration is not the same as idolatry.

correct!

 

[Meriweather]

which verse is the rosary in?

The better question is which Bible verses are in the Rosary?

The story of creation; those teaching the glory of God and the power of the Holy Spirit. Every Gospel verse, and those that reference the Old Testament.

 

[Meriweather]

Is praying the rosary biblical?

Only if meditating and contemplating Biblical stories and teachings is Biblical. If you do not believe contemplation and reflecting on Biblical teachings is Biblical, put away both Bible and rosary.

 

[Meriweather]

im being a berean of Gods word like true believers are told.

Bereans were examples. Being an example of discouraging prayer, contemplation, and Bible study is hardly following the original Bereans.