Women need birth control because "they can't control their libido"

[kaz]

Our argument had nothing to do with sexual predators but with righties calling Obamacare a socialist program.....how did you interpret that being about sexual predators?

I don't know about the "sexual predator" part, but Obamacare is unambiguously socialism. Socialism is central economic planning. The difference between government controling the health care system and single payer is a distinction without a difference.

Obamacare is nowhere near being Socialist.....when the government starts selling the insurance, then you can say it is, but the way it is now, with insurance companies selling the insurance, you either don't know the definition of socialism or you are just regurgitating something you heard and don't understand.

I don't have a definition of socialism. Socialism is central economic planning. The technical hands that "own" it is irrelevant.

If your name is on the title of a car, but your neighbor has the keys, who's car is it? It's the one who controls it. Government is controlling the medical market. It's socialism, pure and simple.

This is why you are an authoritarian leftist, not a liberal. Liberals love freedom. Government power is completely contrary to that.

 

[koshergrl]

She knows that. She doesn't like freedom. Not for other people.

 

[Mertex]

I don't know about the "sexual predator" part, but Obamacare is unambiguously socialism. Socialism is central economic planning. The difference between government controling the health care system and single payer is a distinction without a difference.

Obamacare is nowhere near being Socialist.....when the government starts selling the insurance, then you can say it is, but the way it is now, with insurance companies selling the insurance, you either don't know the definition of socialism or you are just regurgitating something you heard and don't understand.

I don't have a definition of socialism. Socialism is central economic planning. The technical hands that "own" it is irrelevant.

Google is your friend...

SOCIALISM
a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies

If your name is on the title of a car, but your neighbor has the keys, who's car is it? It's the one who controls it. Government is controlling the medical market. It's socialism, pure and simple.

Why do conservatives always resort to comparing apples to oranges. If your neighbor has the keys, he either has them with your permission, or he stole it....and the owner, whoever has the name on the title or the loan, is responsible depending on the scenario, but still ends up paying something.

Scenario No. 3: Your uninsured friend drives your car and causes a lot of damage.
Lending your car to an uninsured friend can land you in a world of hurt. In this case, your uninsured friend has put you in a really bad spot. If the damage your friend causes exceeds your policy limits, the injured party can come after you for medical and property-damage expenses.
Scenario No. 4: Your friend drives your car without your permission and crashes it.
You're not likely to be held accountable for the damages because your friend borrowed your vehicle without your knowledge. In this case, your friend's insurance (assuming he or she has it) will kick in first. If your friend isn't covered, you'll probably need to use your collision insurance to cover the damages to your own vehicle and your liability insurance would cover damage to others' property. Bear in mind that insurance companies will assume a friend has permission to use your car unless there are clear indications that you denied permission, such as a drunken friend who drives away in your car without your knowledge.
Scenario No. 5: Your car is stolen and then crashed.
If the thief crashes into someone or something, you won't be held responsible for the damages done to other people and their property, but you probably will have to use your collision insurance to pay for the damage to your car. Don't count on the thief having auto insurance, let alone enough money to spring for repairs and medical expenses. Even if the thief has insurance, his company won't pay for his criminal act

If you allow your neighbor to take your car keys, and then control your car, all I can say is that you are a rare kind of sucker. Only a fool would allow their neighbor to take the keys to their car, and control it. You've got to come up with a better analogy.

This is why you are an authoritarian leftist, not a liberal. Liberals love freedom. Government power is completely contrary to that.

That is why you're an ignorant right-wing extremist....you take all your information from Faux News and repeat gibberish that isn't true. And conservatives claim they love freedom, but sure don't mind passing bills that insert probes into women's vaginas and want to dictate who can have sex with whom and what type of sex, too.

 

[koshergrl]

Insurance is now owned and operated by the government.

Thank you mertex for pointing out that we are indeed a socialist country.

 

[JakeStarkey]

"Government is controlling the medical market. It's socialism, pure and simple."

One individual's definition and opinion of "socialism" does not matter.

Socialism: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods Socialism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

 

[koshergrl]

Oh lord here we go again with the royal "we" that is fake starkey.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Both the Catholic church and in some public schools there has been instances of sexual abuse on children. It's a frequent problem.

Sexual Predators often deliberately seek out employment or other volunteer work that put themselves in direct contact with children.

So what is the argument here?

There is no argument.

Most (all?) democrats are mindless bigots. They use the sexual molestations of priests to attack an enemy of the party, i.e. the Catholic Church.

I am just pointing out that the schools have the same problem, and because the corrupt public employee unions are involved, the coverups are far worse.

 

[Mertex]

She knows that. She doesn't like freedom. Not for other people.

And you do? That's why you call those who are "pro-choice" - (which means people have the "freedom" to choose) insulting names.....because you are so much for freedom? Bwahahaha

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yes, and I can point to several honest Republicans on this board, and you and KG are not among the list.

You're welcome to point to a lie by me.

I won't hold my breath. Slander and innuendo is the contribution to society by the left, after all.

Just because you consider everything that goes against your twisted logic a lie doesn't mean it is.

I consider statements that are false, which are known to the poster to be false, and which are made with the intent to deceive to be lies.

I hold this view because I am educated and intelligent.

What definition of "lie" does it serve the party for you to have?

You're not going to find one under the rocks where you do most of your living.

I note that you can't point to any here....

 

[JakeStarkey]

Uncensored diagnoses himself well: I consider statements that are false, which are known to the poster to be false, and which are made with the intent to deceive to be lies.

 

[koshergrl]

She knows that. She doesn't like freedom. Not for other people.

And you do? That's why you call those who are "pro-choice" - (which means people have the "freedom" to choose) insulting names.....because you are so much for freedom? Bwahahaha

Pro-choice means "freedom to kill".

Sorry, the killing of those weaker than yourself and dependent upon you is not a symptom of liberty. Quite the opposite. Bwahahaha. Or whatever.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Obamacare is nowhere near being Socialist.....when the government starts selling the insurance, then you can say it is, but the way it is now, with insurance companies selling the insurance, you either don't know the definition of socialism or you are just regurgitating something you heard and don't understand.

What does it please the party for your definition of "socialist" to be?

I've found that "Control of the means of production and/or distribution by the state or central authority" to be the best one. You know, seeing how it is the factual definition.

I realize that facts have nothing to do with what you post, so what does the party find a useful definition at this particular second?

 

[Mertex]

Yes, and I can point to several honest Republicans on this board, and you and KG are not among the list.

You're welcome to point to a lie by me.

That was easy....just go to the post where you said you couldn't find an honest Dem...that's a big fat lie. That you consider anything that goes against your twisted falsehoods a lie doesn't make them lies.

I won't hold my breath. Slander and innuendo is the contribution to society by the left, after all.

I guess you either don't read the right-wing posts or you are lying again.....I've seen plenty of slander and just plain bullshit coming from them.

I consider statements that are false, which are known to the poster to be false, and which are made with the intent to deceive to be lies.

What you consider and what is are two different things....we've already established that.

I hold this view because I am educated and intelligent.

Sure you are.

What definition of "lie" does it serve the party for you to have?

Which party? If you are talking about your party, it doesn't matter, they lie all the time.



I note that you can't point to any here.... [/QUOTE]Well you note wrong, because I already told you where you were lying.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Apparently, Huckabee is unaware that there are actually couples out there that are happy without children and don't want any, thus needing contraception to ensure they are not burdened with offspring they do not want.
The man is a knuckle-dragging Neanderthal.

Why, because you and your filthy party lie about him?

Perhaps you are unaware that there are people who hold integrity as a virtue, and see lies to slander enemies of the party as the act of putrid scumbags and demagogues.

 

[koshergrl]

They do know that people hold integrity as a virtue, and they think they're stupid for doing it. It's one reason they want to board up the churches, preferrably with the Christians in them, then torching them. Integrity and honor and a staunch moral code are enemies of progressivism.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Huckabee is just like all other conservatives, he wants every sexual encounter to produce a fertilized egg and every fertilized egg to become a child, so they can then weed out the poor ones by cutting off their food stamps, medicaid, welfare, education and anything that might help them survive in their utopia Bubbleland.

Is that right, Herr Goebbels?

Does it please the party for you to lie like this?

You see Mertex, this is why I point out that you're a scumbag.

You know, because you're a lying scumbag. 68 pages in, there is no question that the demagoguery you spread is false - but you don't care, party above all.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Obamacare is nowhere near being Socialist.....when the government starts selling the insurance, then you can say it is, but the way it is now, with insurance companies selling the insurance, you either don't know the definition of socialism or you are just regurgitating something you heard and don't understand.

What does it please the party for your definition of "socialist" to be?

I've found that "Control of the means of production and/or distribution by the state or central authority" to be the best one. You know, seeing how it is the factual definition.

I realize that facts have nothing to do with what you post, so what does the party find a useful definition at this particular second?

However, ACA is not socialism. You can't demonstrate that it controls the health care industry in that it owns or controls the industry's means of production and or distribution.

I am glad that you are using definitions for a change, even if you are using them to assert your silly understanding of the term.

 

[oreo]

Apparently, Huckabee is unaware that there are actually couples out there that are happy without children and don't want any, thus needing contraception to ensure they are not burdened with offspring they do not want.
The man is a knuckle-dragging Neanderthal.

Why, because you and your filthy party lie about him?

Perhaps you are unaware that there are people who hold integrity as a virtue, and see lies to slander enemies of the party as the act of putrid scumbags and demagogues.

I am a fiscal conservative Republican woman and I believe Huckabee is a neanderthal. He along with Rush Limpass--are the root cause for keeping Obama in office for another 4 years. The continual outrageous guests that Huckabee deliberately put on his FOX program along with Limpass attacks on women in this country made them run to the Obama camp.

That's why Romney lost the election. Women are the MAJORITY voters in this country to-day far outnumbering male voters--and these two dumb-ass's did nothing but insult their intelligence.

 

[koshergrl]

Is fakey deliberately engaging in satire?

 

[Plasmaball]

Notice that any help you offer to any group republicans claim its because the helper think the helpee is "too stupid for *blank*"

Its just their way of excusing themselves for being asshole.

Essentially to use an example: People are at the bottom of a hole. Repubs are at the top with a ladder but wont give it using the excuse that if they help that is an indication of how weak or stupid they are...and they yell that over top of the cries for help coming from the bottom of the pit

What else does one think about a group that needs to have soft drink sizes regulated, salt regulated, be forced under threat of sanctions that they should have health insurance, needs warning labels. on everything?

You lefties are helpless ninnies.

against warning labels? thats a new one.