With all due respect, Mr. Romney, what the HELL?

[francoHFW]

When one group triples their wealth while the rest, and the country, go to HELL, they should be taxed more DUH.

 

[Darkwind]

The rich pay their greatest share of the Federal income tax burden in America ever in our history.

And the poor and middle class pay less, yet continue to gobble up a larger and larger share of the tax dolla, thanks to explosive entitlement growth :

The last thing idiot Liberals want is 'fair' taxation.

Wow, that is a "world class" lie!!!!! Or are you really that stupid?

It appears that you are.

 

[Trajan]

“I just have to say given the challenges that America faces 23 million people out of work, Iran about to become nuclear, one out of six Americans in poverty, the fascination with taxes I paid I find to be very small minded compared to the broad issues we face,”


Mitt Romney Says He Never Paid Less Than 13 Percent In Taxes - ABC News

The most important issue of our day is fair taxes.

At the risk of redundancy: The most important issue of our day is fair taxes. Fairness through simplicity, especially at the federal level.



Fair and simple taxes, public budgets that are balanced by law, and transparency in all things politics.

The stars await, kids.
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the fascination with taxes I paid I find to be very small minded compared to the broad issues we face,”

You think the issue with what he paid in taxes is paramount?
Because that's what he said here....I don't get your post at all.

 

[Lakhota]

That Heritage chart is typical Heritage bullshit. Social Security is not welfare - people pay into it their entire working lives. Wall Street desperately wants to get their hands on that money.

Defense should be cut in half - at least.

 

[AVG-JOE]

The last thing idiot Liberals want is 'fair' taxation.

Perhaps, but it's the very FIRST thing us intelligent Liberals want addressed. Followed closely by public budgets that are balanced by law and transparency in all things politics.

How the FUCK can spending be addressed before we know what the tax base of this country is truly worth? As long as there is favoritism in the tax code, corruption will run our politics.

Now, be careful with your labels, do you see how I'm saying that Obama is just as wrong in wanting to coddle 'green' industry with tax favoritism as the stuffy old white guys creeping around DC since the petroleum hay-days are to continue coddling 'old' energy?

Taxes that are simple are taxes that are fair.

 

[SniperFire]

The last thing idiot Liberals want is 'fair' taxation.

Perhaps, but it's the very FIRST thing us intelligent Liberals want addressed. Followed closely by public budgets that are balanced by law and transparency in all things politics.

How the FUCK can spending be addressed before we know what the tax base of this country is truly worth? As long as there is favoritism in the tax code, corruption will run our politics.

Now, be careful with your labels, do you see how I'm saying that Obama is just as wrong in wanting to coddle 'green' industry with tax favoritism as the stuffy old white guys creeping around DC since the petroleum hay-days are to continue coddling 'old' energy?

Taxes that are simple are taxes that are fair.

Complete bullshit, of course, because you OP postulation was the the rich were not paying enough when in fact it is obvious to any honest observer that the lack of 'fairness' in the taxation is that the masses are not paying NEARLY what they should be paying bases on their ever-increasing consumption of redistributive goodies.

You are either dishonest or ignorant, or both.

 

[Jackson]

People are thinking about where they are going to get their job.

They are thinking about paying for their mortgage.

They are wondering if their life savings are safe.

They are wondering if Obamacare is going to reduce their healthcare access.

They want to know if Obama is going to lead them into a war or leak vital info to our enemies.

They don't want any more class warfare.

They don't care about any damn tax returns.

 

[Darkwind]

That Heritage chart is typical Heritage bullshit. Social Security is not welfare - people pay into it their entire working lives. Wall Street desperately wants to get their hands on that money.

Defense should be cut in half - at least.

Social Security IS welfare.

There IS no money to be paid out. They spent it. Now you want more in the name of, "I paid into it, its my money!"

Yet if anyone who has that ideology is asked about what money they should get if they happen to outlive the money they put into the system, they are strangely silent.

And then there is the biggest kicker.

I paid into it, so it is my money! It loses any real value when the same people are willing to 'means test' social security and take the money paid in if the person happens to have enough money to not need social security.

So, which is it? Is it their money, or is it just fucking greed by the left?

 

[francoHFW]

I know, let's cut taxes on the bloated rich, destroy Medicare and health reform, raise taxes and fees on the nonrich, let corporate cheats run wild, cut aid to states and localities, raise military spending to more than the rest of the world combined, and worry about the debt in 2035.

That's what people should be worried about...not BS Pub fear mongering...

 

[SniperFire]

That Heritage chart is typical Heritage bullshit. Social Security is not welfare - people pay into it their entire working lives. Wall Street desperately wants to get their hands on that money.

Defense should be cut in half - at least.

Social Security IS welfare.

There IS no money to be paid out. They spent it. Now you want more in the name of, "I paid into it, its my money!"

Yet if anyone who has that ideology is asked about what money they should get if they happen to outlive the money they put into the system, they are strangely silent.

And then there is the biggest kicker.

I paid into it, so it is my money! It loses any real value when the same people are willing to 'means test' social security and take the money paid in if the person happens to have enough money to not need social security.

So, which is it? Is it their money, or is it just fucking greed by the left?

The proof that it is welfare is that Obama threatened to not send out the checks if the debt ceiling was not increased.

 

[Darkwind]

Here is a clue fuck heads..

Every dime of the debt and every dime of the deficit is taxes that you have not yet paid! They plan to take it from you, regardless and they plan on increasing it so that you are more and more enslaved to their power.

Wake the fuck up liberals.

 

[Darkwind]

That Heritage chart is typical Heritage bullshit. Social Security is not welfare - people pay into it their entire working lives. Wall Street desperately wants to get their hands on that money.

Defense should be cut in half - at least.

Social Security IS welfare.

There IS no money to be paid out. They spent it. Now you want more in the name of, "I paid into it, its my money!"

Yet if anyone who has that ideology is asked about what money they should get if they happen to outlive the money they put into the system, they are strangely silent.

And then there is the biggest kicker.

I paid into it, so it is my money! It loses any real value when the same people are willing to 'means test' social security and take the money paid in if the person happens to have enough money to not need social security.

So, which is it? Is it their money, or is it just fucking greed by the left?

The proof that it is welfare is that Obama threatened to not send out the checks if the debt ceiling was not increased.

Yes, because when they open the box, it is empty. Everyone knows this. Everywhere you go, just say "Social Security." Nothing more....Every person in the room will say that they won't see it.

Every one of them.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Weren't taxes also higher under Clinton?

It isn't about higher taxes any more than it's about lower taxes.

It's about fair taxes.

On all income in excess of $30,000 a year, acquired by any and all means of acquiring money from wages to contracting, through interest earned, capital investments, hustling pool and lottery winnings, everyone should pay 18%. 'Cept for foreigners. Foreigners should have to pay 18% on everything and only Citizens should get to earn their first $30k a year tax free. Citizenship should have perks other than voting.

 

[Darkwind]

Weren't taxes also higher under Clinton?

It isn't about higher taxes any more than it's about lower taxes.

It's about fair taxes.

On all income in excess of $30,000 a year, acquired by any and all means of acquiring money from wages to contracting, through interest earned, capital investments, hustling pool and lottery winnings, everyone should pay 18%. 'Cept for foreigners. Foreigners should have to pay 18% on everything and Citizens should get to earn their first $30k a year tax free. Citizenship should have perks other than voting.

I don't think you know what fair means.

Fair means EVERYONE puts skin in the game.

I mean fucking everyone.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Lets summerize, shall we?

The rich pay their highest share of the total Federal Income tax burden.

The Federal income taxes increasingly go directly to the non-rich in the form of freebie handouts. That is also known as wealth redistribution. In fact, the handouts are now over half the budget and will consume 100% of all tax revenues in just over a decade.

The poor and especially the middle class should be paying much, much more of the Federal income tax burden if they are going to continue to gobble up Federal tax monies at an alarming rate.

The last thing a Liberal wants is 'fairness' in taxes.

I am not sure if you are just dishonest or woefully ignorant, Ave Joe.

Whatever dude...

One question - in your opinion, is American tax law simple, efficient and fair?

'Whatever' is not good enough. Do better next time.

Whatever dude...

One question - in your opinion, is American tax law simple, efficient and fair?

 

[SniperFire]

Whatever dude...

One question - in your opinion, is American tax law simple, efficient and fair?

'Whatever' is not good enough. Do better next time.

Whatever dude...

One question - in your opinion, is American tax law simple, efficient and fair?

Looking forward to your next thread start!

 

[francoHFW]

The dupes sure believe a lot of crap. The richest's ACTUAL rate is about 17%, corporate 12%- the poorest pay as much as the rich %wise in ALL taxes and fees, and the middle class much more, and what you end up with is not enough cash on hand among the masses to creat enough demand- under Booosh the poor scmucks have been trying to live the dream on credit.... You are total tools of the greedy rich.

 

[AVG-JOE]

You are an ignorant ass spreading false information.

Hope that helps.

And read my sig line, chump.

Got nothin' eh? Hang in there Kiddo, you at least have legible skills with writing in English.

Hilarious, considering your assclown OP postulated that the rich weren't paying their 'fairness' in taxes.

Hey, some are and some aren't - the point is we can never know as long as we have a tax code that's so complicated that the agency tasked with administering it is confused, confusing and contradictory.

Do I really need a link to an article probing confusion emanating from The IRS?

 

[Vel]

Got nothin' eh? Hang in there Kiddo, you at least have legible skills with writing in English.

Hilarious, considering your assclown OP postulated that the rich weren't paying their 'fairness' in taxes.

Hey, some are and some aren't - the point is we can never know as long as we have a tax code that's so complicated that the agency tasked with administering it is confused, confusing and contradictory.

Do I really need a link to an article probing confusion emanating from The IRS?

Can you point to what Obama has done to simplify the tax code?

 

[SniperFire]

Hilarious, considering your assclown OP postulated that the rich weren't paying their 'fairness' in taxes.

Hey, some are and some aren't - the point is we can never know as long as we have a tax code that's so complicated that the agency tasked with administering it is confused, confusing and contradictory.

Do I really need a link to an article probing confusion emanating from The IRS?

Can you point to what Obama has done to simplify the tax code?

Time for Joe to shift his argument again.