Will Republicans Make 2020 About Trump's Integrity?

[ABikerSailor]

So................you deflect to him being an author, but won't provide links that show his worth has increased over a hundredfold, as well as that most of that money came from abroad. From the way you have responded (as well as tried to say I've gotten emotional), this is just more crap you pulled outta your ass. At least I'm polite enough to provide links.

Its really up to Obama to provide his own tax returns. His books are available abroad, that's just a fact. Further, foreigners can and have come to the United States, buy his books and take them back to foreign countries.

That's "Emoluments" by the liberal definition they are applying for Trump.

So............you got nothing. Pretty much what I thought.

So what are you saying? That the books attributed to Obama aren't available to foreigners?

You're the one that said that. I'm asking you for links that Obama's worth has increased a hundredfold, and that most of that money comes from foreign interests.

I never said, nor implied, that "most" of Obama's money came from illegal Emoluments, only that SOME of it did.

And that is a violation, no?

It's a violation, but only if it can be proven. Got a link?

 

[Indeependent]

Both of you are defending PP boy's allegations. I'm simply asking for links that prove Obama increased his worth a hundredfold and that most of it came from foreign interests like PP boy alleges, but all you guys point to is Obama's book.

Obama gives speeches.
But how did he go from being worth a few hundred grand to 11M in 8 years?
Politicians pass legislation and they can invest before the legislation goes public.
They all do it.

 

[MarcATL]

Lol since when has washington cared about integrity?

Whenever there is a Republican in Office, this is the type of line they spew.

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[ABikerSailor]

Both of you are defending PP boy's allegations. I'm simply asking for links that prove Obama increased his worth a hundredfold and that most of it came from foreign interests like PP boy alleges, but all you guys point to is Obama's book.

Obama gives speeches.
But how did he go from being worth a few hundred grand to 11M in 8 years?
Politicians pass legislation and they can invest before the legislation goes public.
They all do it.

Now you are alleging that Obama participated in insider trading. Again, got a link, or is this just another baseless charge?

 

[Indeependent]

Both of you are defending PP boy's allegations. I'm simply asking for links that prove Obama increased his worth a hundredfold and that most of it came from foreign interests like PP boy alleges, but all you guys point to is Obama's book.

Obama gives speeches.
But how did he go from being worth a few hundred grand to 11M in 8 years?
Politicians pass legislation and they can invest before the legislation goes public.
They all do it.

Now you are alleging that Obama participated in insider trading. Again, got a link, or is this just another baseless charge?

Are you retarded?
Can you read a whole sentence without the irrational, rotted, Liberal brain cells that you have left cause too much blood to rush to your neck?
Members of Congress, and possibly the President, are allowed to engage in Insider Trading.

60 Minutes has a whole story on this about 3 years ago.

 

[jasonnfree]

Well, if Obama has profited from his presidency, he's done it legal like by waiting till he's out of office. It's becoming evident that trump doesn't have Obama's intelligence or self control.

 

[Polishprince]

Well, if Obama has profited from his presidency, he's done it legal like by waiting till he's out of office. It's becoming evident that trump doesn't have Obama's intelligence or self control.

Sorry, Obama's books were available, and available internationally, while he was still in office.

 

[Indeependent]

Well, if Obama has profited from his presidency, he's done it legal like by waiting till he's out of office. It's becoming evident that trump doesn't have Obama's intelligence or self control.

Sorry, Obama's books were available, and available internationally, while he was still in office.

I presume there’s nothing wrong with that.

 

[Polishprince]

Well, if Obama has profited from his presidency, he's done it legal like by waiting till he's out of office. It's becoming evident that trump doesn't have Obama's intelligence or self control.

Sorry, Obama's books were available, and available internationally, while he was still in office.

I presume there’s nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't thought so, and I didn't think so at the time, either.

But the definition of "emoluments" was expanded to include regular business activities as soon as Donald Trump took office.

Its only fair that libs be held to the standards that they are trying to hold others too.

 

[Care4all]

Well, if Obama has profited from his presidency, he's done it legal like by waiting till he's out of office. It's becoming evident that trump doesn't have Obama's intelligence or self control.

Sorry, Obama's books were available, and available internationally, while he was still in office.

I presume there’s nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't thought so, and I didn't think so at the time, either.

But the definition of "emoluments" was expanded to include regular business activities as soon as Donald Trump took office.

Its only fair that libs be held to the standards that they are trying to hold others too.

Do you think a foreign national buying a $20 book, thinks that this will buy them access to then President Obama?

 

[Polishprince]

Well, if Obama has profited from his presidency, he's done it legal like by waiting till he's out of office. It's becoming evident that trump doesn't have Obama's intelligence or self control.

Sorry, Obama's books were available, and available internationally, while he was still in office.

I presume there’s nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't thought so, and I didn't think so at the time, either.

But the definition of "emoluments" was expanded to include regular business activities as soon as Donald Trump took office.

Its only fair that libs be held to the standards that they are trying to hold others too.

Do you think a foreign national buying a $20 book, thinks that this will buy them access to then President Obama?

Probably not. And when guests stay at the Trump International , it doesn't buy they access to President Trump either. But the libs still call it an "emolument". Remember it isn't the amount, or whether Obama is crooked or not, its whether its an emolument.

 

[Care4all]

Both of you are defending PP boy's allegations. I'm simply asking for links that prove Obama increased his worth a hundredfold and that most of it came from foreign interests like PP boy alleges, but all you guys point to is Obama's book.

Obama gives speeches.
But how did he go from being worth a few hundred grand to 11M in 8 years?
Politicians pass legislation and they can invest before the legislation goes public.
They all do it.

HOGWASH!

he made the money off of his 2 books, $7 million from one and $4.5 million from the other...

NOT from insider trading.

 

[hunarcy]

How many Senate Republicans will stake their electoral futures on the honesty of Donald Trump and his family members?

These are the senators facing re-election fights in 2020 - CNNPolitics

"Democrats faced a more challenging Senate map in 2018 than Republicans, in part because they had more seats up for election. But in 2020, the GOP will have to defend more Senate seats than Democrats. As of now, there will be 22 Republican Senate seats on the line, while Democrats will only need to protect 12 seats..."

"Republicans
Lamar Alexander (R-Tennessee)
Shelley Moore Capito (R-West Virginia)
Bill Cassidy (R-Louisiana)
Susan Collins (R-Maine)
John Cornyn (R-Texas)
Tom Cotton (R-Arkansas)
Steve Daines (R-Montana)
Mike Enzi (R-Wyoming)
Joni Ernst (R-Iowa)
Cory Gardner (R-Colorado)
Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina)
Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-Mississippi)... "
James Inhofe (R-Oklahoma)
Jon Kyl (R-Arizona)..."
Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky)
David Perdue (R-GA)
Jim Risch (R-Idaho)
Pat Roberts (R-Kansas)
Mike Rounds (R-South Dakota)
Ben Sasse (R-Nebraska)
Dan Sullivan (R-Alaska)
Thom Tillis (R-North Carolina)"

Foreign emoluments?
Domestic emoluments?
Obviously, all politicians are corrupt, since they could never raise enough money to get elected if they didn't follow ruling class scripture.
But Trump's presidency rests on a foundation of fraud that will likely crumble over the next 19 months.
Will Republicans sacrifice their party on the altar of Trump?
I sure hope so.

No, the 2020 election will be about President Trump's accomplishments. Respect and peace abroad, prosperity at home. Although its interesting that the libs say Trump is a "fraud" when they have phony Mexicans, phony Squaws and phony "investigations" in their own outfit

There is not a truth bone in him, esp his bone spur. What are his accomplishment, oh getting tax cuts for the elites and his partners in crime, the real-estate syndicate aka pass-through taxes.
Real Estate Syndication: How it Works and How to Get Started

Ask Hannity and his Hud deals.

tax cuts for elites and the lowest black unemployment rate Black unemployment rate falls to 5.9%, ties record low hit earlier this year

pass through taxes and the lowest hispanic unemployment rate Hispanic Unemployment Rate Hits Record Low in December

Hannity and HUD deals and a great economy for us. Optimism dips, but Americans still feel economy is in good shape under Trump: CNBC survey

Honestly, at this time, I feel sorry for this crop of Democratic nominees. It will probably change in the next year or so, but for now, they're in bad shape.

 

[Care4all]

Well, if Obama has profited from his presidency, he's done it legal like by waiting till he's out of office. It's becoming evident that trump doesn't have Obama's intelligence or self control.

Sorry, Obama's books were available, and available internationally, while he was still in office.

I presume there’s nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't thought so, and I didn't think so at the time, either.

But the definition of "emoluments" was expanded to include regular business activities as soon as Donald Trump took office.

Its only fair that libs be held to the standards that they are trying to hold others too.

Do you think a foreign national buying a $20 book, thinks that this will buy them access to then President Obama?

Probably not. And when guests stay at the Trump International , it doesn't buy they access to President Trump either. But the libs still call it an "emolument". Remember it isn't the amount, or whether Obama is crooked or not, its whether its an emolument.

Oh, but it is about being crooked and wheeling and dealing in favor of a foreign entity over the USA, that is why there IS THE emolument's clause in the constitution and why the constitution made it mandatory that the President be a Natural Born Citizen.... the founders had great fear of foreign influence or foreign allegiance, in our government through our Presidents.

 

[Indeependent]

Both of you are defending PP boy's allegations. I'm simply asking for links that prove Obama increased his worth a hundredfold and that most of it came from foreign interests like PP boy alleges, but all you guys point to is Obama's book.

Obama gives speeches.
But how did he go from being worth a few hundred grand to 11M in 8 years?
Politicians pass legislation and they can invest before the legislation goes public.
They all do it.

HOGWASH!

he made the money off of his 2 books, $7 million from one and $4.5 million from the other...

NOT from insider trading.

Fine.
Who cares?
Not me.

 

[Indeependent]

Sorry, Obama's books were available, and available internationally, while he was still in office.

I presume there’s nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't thought so, and I didn't think so at the time, either.

But the definition of "emoluments" was expanded to include regular business activities as soon as Donald Trump took office.

Its only fair that libs be held to the standards that they are trying to hold others too.

Do you think a foreign national buying a $20 book, thinks that this will buy them access to then President Obama?

Probably not. And when guests stay at the Trump International , it doesn't buy they access to President Trump either. But the libs still call it an "emolument". Remember it isn't the amount, or whether Obama is crooked or not, its whether its an emolument.

Oh, but it is about being crooked and wheeling and dealing in favor of a foreign entity over the USA, that is why there IS THE emolument's clause in the constitution and why the constitution made it mandatory that the President be a Natural Born Citizen.... the founders had great fear of foreign influence or foreign allegiance, in our government through our Presidents.

How about when you provide care for an Illegal when they visit your hospital?

 

[georgephillip]

The arrangement has provoked concerns that foreign governments can curry favor with the president by renting rooms at his luxury hotel in Washington or deploying state-owned companies to develop overseas projects, as some suggested a Chinese firm may have done when it agreed to help build a $500 million entertainment complex in Indonesia that includes a Trump-branded hotel."

Obama was an author, and sold his books to various foreign countries as well. Do you think the Russians or Iranians might have been currying favor with B. Hussein O by buying his books? I don't know if you realize this, but Obama's net worth increased a hundredfold during his reign, and a lot of money came from abroad.

Obama was an author, and sold his books to various foreign countries as well. Do you think the Russians or Iranians might have been currying favor with B. Hussein O by buying his books? I don't know if you realize this, but Obama's net worth increased a hundredfold during his reign, and a lot of money came from abroad.

Obama's reported net worth is a fraction of Trump's.
Trump, Inc consists of hundreds of businesses.
Obama has no such empire.

Trump vs. Obama: Here's How Much Each President Is Really Worth, and How He Made His Money

And Obama and Clinton made no attempt to hide their income tax returns from voters, unlike Trump who thinks it is "smart" to cheat on his federal tax obligations.

 

[georgephillip]

Trump made the last election about "draining the swamp"

How has that worked out?

Actually, its worked out pretty well so far. Swamp creatures like Comey and McCabe are history. The Deep State's hate for President Trump shows how effective he's been.

Actually, its worked out pretty well so far. Swamp creatures like Comey and McCabe are history. The Deep State's hate for President Trump shows how effective he's been.

Trump presides over the most corrupt administration in recent US History:

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

"Donald Trump promised to drain the Washington swamp. Instead, he has surrounded himself with family members, appointees and advisers who’ve been accused of conflicts of interest."

, misuse of public funds

, influence peddling

, self-enrichment

, working for foreign governments

, failure to disclose information

and violating ethics rules

. Some are under investigation

or facing lawsuits

, others have resigned

and five have either been convicted or pleaded guilty

, including three for lying to government officials

. Scandals plague all administrations, but Trump’s is only two years old and the allegations keep on coming

This is so ironic.
Considering the fact that Democrats created Obamacare..which costs us trillions....and are responsible for $152 billion in extra ANNUAL expenditures paying for all of the illegals they've encouraged to come to the US. Then there's their Green New Deal proposal which will cost us $92 TRILLION DOLLARS.

We spend more money paying for Democrat's fuckups than we do for anything else.

Considering the fact that Democrats created Obamacare..which costs us trillions....and are responsible for $152 billion in extra ANNUAL expenditures paying for all of the illegals they've encouraged to come to the US. Then there's their Green New Deal proposal which will cost us $92 TRILLION DOLLARS

Even if all your allegations above are accurate, how does that absolve Trump from running the most corrupt administration in the last hundred years?

Well, considering that fact that it would take some doing for Trump to equal the corruption of the Obama Administration.....and most of the corruption is a fabrication by a corrupt media......I don't think Trump needs any absolution at all.

Well, considering that fact that it would take some doing for Trump to equal the corruption of the Obama Administration.....and most of the corruption is a fabrication by a corrupt media......I don't think Trump needs any absolution at all.

List of federal political scandals in the United States - Wikipedia

"Donald Trump administration (2017–present)[edit]
Further information: Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections, 2017–18 United States political sexual scandals, Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations, and List of lawsuits involving Donald Trump

• President Donald Trump (R) is currently being investigated in seventeen different investigations. The chief investigation led by Special Counsel for the Department of Justice Robert Mueller, is now closed. No charges have been filed.[1][2] See also Special Counsel investigation (2017–2019), and Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections

"Executive Branch[edit]

• Scott Pruitt (R) Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency, resigned citing increasing numbers of investigations into his administration. The EPA's own Chief Ethics Official had been pushing for independent studies into Pruitt's actions and 13 other separate investigations were under way, including alleged corruption for personal gain, salary increases without White House approval, use of government staff on personal projects and unnecessary spending on offices and security. He resigned July 5, 2018
  1. Albert Kelly (R) EPA Superfund Task Force Director and top aide to EPA Chief Scott Pruitt(R) resigned amid scrutiny of his previous actions as leader of a bank in Oklahoma which led to $125,000 fine and lifetime ban from banking. (2018)[6][7][8]
  2. Pasquale 'Nino' Perrotta EPA Security Administrator resigned after allegations of lavish spending and improper contracts (2018)[9]
  3. Samantha Dravis (R) EPA Associate Administrator and Senior Counsel in the Office of Policy resigned abruptly after allegations of being a no show employee. (2018)[10][11][12]
  • George Papadopoulos (R) Foreign policy advisor pleaded guilty to making false statements to FBI agents relating to contacts he had with agents of the Russian government while working for the Trump campaign. He was sentenced to 14 days in prison, 12 months probation, and 200 hours community service.(2017)[13][14][15][16][17]
  • Michael Flynn National Security Advisor, was forced to resign on February 13, 2017, over conversations he had with Russian envoys about sanctions during the transition. On December 1, 2017, Flynn pleaded guilty to charges of lying to the FBI as a plea bargain. (2017)[18][19]
  • Dr. William C. Bradford resigned from the United States Department of Energy Office of Indian Energy amid reports that he had made racial slurs directed at Barack Obama on Disqus and Twitter. Bradford had claimed..."
  • 
    
  • Most Corrupt Administration Ever.

 

[mudwhistle]

Actually, its worked out pretty well so far. Swamp creatures like Comey and McCabe are history. The Deep State's hate for President Trump shows how effective he's been.

Actually, its worked out pretty well so far. Swamp creatures like Comey and McCabe are history. The Deep State's hate for President Trump shows how effective he's been.

Trump presides over the most corrupt administration in recent US History:

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

"Donald Trump promised to drain the Washington swamp. Instead, he has surrounded himself with family members, appointees and advisers who’ve been accused of conflicts of interest."

, misuse of public funds

, influence peddling

, self-enrichment

, working for foreign governments

, failure to disclose information

and violating ethics rules

. Some are under investigation

or facing lawsuits

, others have resigned

and five have either been convicted or pleaded guilty

, including three for lying to government officials

. Scandals plague all administrations, but Trump’s is only two years old and the allegations keep on coming

This is so ironic.
Considering the fact that Democrats created Obamacare..which costs us trillions....and are responsible for $152 billion in extra ANNUAL expenditures paying for all of the illegals they've encouraged to come to the US. Then there's their Green New Deal proposal which will cost us $92 TRILLION DOLLARS.

We spend more money paying for Democrat's fuckups than we do for anything else.

Considering the fact that Democrats created Obamacare..which costs us trillions....and are responsible for $152 billion in extra ANNUAL expenditures paying for all of the illegals they've encouraged to come to the US. Then there's their Green New Deal proposal which will cost us $92 TRILLION DOLLARS

Even if all your allegations above are accurate, how does that absolve Trump from running the most corrupt administration in the last hundred years?

Well, considering that fact that it would take some doing for Trump to equal the corruption of the Obama Administration.....and most of the corruption is a fabrication by a corrupt media......I don't think Trump needs any absolution at all.

Well, considering that fact that it would take some doing for Trump to equal the corruption of the Obama Administration.....and most of the corruption is a fabrication by a corrupt media......I don't think Trump needs any absolution at all.

List of federal political scandals in the United States - Wikipedia

"Donald Trump administration (2017–present)[edit]
Further information: Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections, 2017–18 United States political sexual scandals, Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations, and List of lawsuits involving Donald Trump

• President Donald Trump (R) is currently being investigated in seventeen different investigations. The chief investigation led by Special Counsel for the Department of Justice Robert Mueller, is now closed. No charges have been filed.[1][2] See also Special Counsel investigation (2017–2019), and Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections

"Executive Branch[edit]

• Scott Pruitt (R) Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency, resigned citing increasing numbers of investigations into his administration. The EPA's own Chief Ethics Official had been pushing for independent studies into Pruitt's actions and 13 other separate investigations were under way, including alleged corruption for personal gain, salary increases without White House approval, use of government staff on personal projects and unnecessary spending on offices and security. He resigned July 5, 2018
  1. Albert Kelly (R) EPA Superfund Task Force Director and top aide to EPA Chief Scott Pruitt(R) resigned amid scrutiny of his previous actions as leader of a bank in Oklahoma which led to $125,000 fine and lifetime ban from banking. (2018)[6][7][8]
  2. Pasquale 'Nino' Perrotta EPA Security Administrator resigned after allegations of lavish spending and improper contracts (2018)[9]
  3. Samantha Dravis (R) EPA Associate Administrator and Senior Counsel in the Office of Policy resigned abruptly after allegations of being a no show employee. (2018)[10][11][12]
  • George Papadopoulos (R) Foreign policy advisor pleaded guilty to making false statements to FBI agents relating to contacts he had with agents of the Russian government while working for the Trump campaign. He was sentenced to 14 days in prison, 12 months probation, and 200 hours community service.(2017)[13][14][15][16][17]
  • Michael Flynn National Security Advisor, was forced to resign on February 13, 2017, over conversations he had with Russian envoys about sanctions during the transition. On December 1, 2017, Flynn pleaded guilty to charges of lying to the FBI as a plea bargain. (2017)[18][19]
  • Dr. William C. Bradford resigned from the United States Department of Energy Office of Indian Energy amid reports that he had made racial slurs directed at Barack Obama on Disqus and Twitter. Bradford had claimed..."
  • 
    
  • Most Corrupt Administration Ever.

Pretty pathetic.
You have to use stuff that other people did before they worked for Trump, things they were all fired for when it was discovered.....
Not a very convincing argument.

 

[Care4all]

I presume there’s nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't thought so, and I didn't think so at the time, either.

But the definition of "emoluments" was expanded to include regular business activities as soon as Donald Trump took office.

Its only fair that libs be held to the standards that they are trying to hold others too.

Do you think a foreign national buying a $20 book, thinks that this will buy them access to then President Obama?

Probably not. And when guests stay at the Trump International , it doesn't buy they access to President Trump either. But the libs still call it an "emolument". Remember it isn't the amount, or whether Obama is crooked or not, its whether its an emolument.

Oh, but it is about being crooked and wheeling and dealing in favor of a foreign entity over the USA, that is why there IS THE emolument's clause in the constitution and why the constitution made it mandatory that the President be a Natural Born Citizen.... the founders had great fear of foreign influence or foreign allegiance, in our government through our Presidents.

How about when you provide care for an Illegal when they visit your hospital?

What financial gain for the President will this do, that will make him change his foreign policy with this sick person's country, and choose this sick person's country, over and above the USA?

Is the sick illegal BUYING influence of the President, is this a 'pay for play' on the sick person's part?