Will Republicans ever learn? Indiana governor to sign bill allowing business not to serve gays

This is what The Tea Party Religionist are really after...the Right to be blatant racists with impunity with legal protection ....
The Bill of rights protects your right to be a racist, you stupid baboon. That's what Freedom of Speech and freedom of association are.
And you are allowed to be a racist, but we, society, sets the rules that businesses must follow.

That's true of a fascist society like the kind you endorse. It's not true of a free society where government performs its proper function.

The business does not attend church, nor is it one. The No ******* church is allowed, the No ******* gas station is not. That is the reality, that you of course reject.

Despite your delusions of grandeur, turd, you don't make the rules. The people who do make the rules ignore the Constitution, which is the law of the land, so the rules we have are illegitimate.
 
What would happen if a business refused to serve a busload of NFL football players because most of them were black?

You mean if the Constitution was followed, or under the laws we have now? Are you suggesting that the football players would beat the crap out of the business owner?
 
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ERIC SHAWN: You know, the law was intended to protect personal religious liberties against government overreach and intrusion. So what happened?

BAIER: Well, Indiana's law is written a little differently. It is more broad. It is different than the federal law that it's close to, but different than, and also different than 19 other states and how the law is written. In specific terms, Indiana's law deals with a person who can claim religious persecution but that includes corporations, for profit entities and it could also be used as a defense in a civil suit that does not involve the government. That is broader than the other laws. This is where it's a little different in Indiana's case. You saw governor Mike Pence try to defend the law and say it's just like the 1993 federal law where it's just like 19 other states, but as you look in the fine print, it's not really, and it may be something that Indiana deals with in specifics to line up with the others.

[...]

SHAWN: Obviously, it had good intentions. What do you think happened to make it kind of go off the rails this way?

BAIER: Well, how it was structured, Eric. And I think that, you know, there may be good intentions behind it but how it's being interpreted is being a little bit more forward leaning than any other Religious Freedom Restoration Act on the books. What this does politically, obviously Mike Pence has been talked about as a governor thinking about a 2016 run. We don't know if he's going to do it or not. But that interview with Stephanopoulos over the weekend was obviously not a great back and forth in defense of this law that likely is going to have to be at least tweaked, if not changed. [emphasis added]

Watch A Fox News Anchor Debunk His Network s Defense Of Indiana s Religious Freedom Law Blog Media Matters for America
 
Actually, it wasn't the "same thing"

Lying as always, eh shitflinger?

{(a) IN GENERAL- Government shall not substantially burden a person’s exercise of religion even if the burden results from a rule of general applicability, except as provided in subsection (b).



(b) EXCEPTION- Government may substantially burden a person’s exercise of religion only if it demonstrates that application of the burden to the person--

(1) is in furtherance of a compelling governmental interest; and

(2) is the least restrictive means of furthering that compelling governmental interest.}

Is that Indiana, or the Clinton bill, shitflinger?

quiet, hack. what religion requires that you discriminate against people?

you loons said the same thing when you were opposing desegregation.

They WANT the right to discriminate racially. That's what they mean when they say a business should have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.

They are not comfortable living in modern American, to put it another way.

Yeah, that's right, we're all incipient Lester Maddox's who just can't wait to lynch some blackfolk.

You people are despicable race baiting morons. You have no facts or logic, so all you can do is accuse your critics of being bigots. You're simply admitting that you know your position hasn't got a leg to stand on. None of you has ever explained why anyone has a right to force another person to serve him.
 
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no different than any other fundie.

or perhaps you want to explain the difference to dr till's family? or to the parents of the kids killed in the federal building in Oklahoma?

Your confusion continues Moon Bat.

The law passed in Indiana to establish the freedom of religion has absolutely nothing to do with the Oklahoma bombing except in your convoluted Moon Bat mind.

However, opposition to freedom of religion and intolerance for religious beliefs is reminiscence of the massive killings of Christians and the attacks on Jews that we are seeing all across the world now.
 
we know what the answer is. pence saying it or not is irrelevant. and they're cowards, so why would they answer?

Pence is on the opposite side of you and your party.

Pence is defending civil liberty and the Bill of Rights, you demagogues are dedicated to eradicating both.

Bringing back racial discrimination is a step forward in civil liberties?

"Civil liberties" are a fiction invented by the left. They're privileges invented by politicians. They aren't rights. You have individual rights, and that's it.
 
Why should a merchant subject himself to the hostility of a swam of angry queer hornets? The sign you want is merely a target letting assholes like you know who to harass and vandalize. The Nazis did the same exact thing to the Jews.
The ironic part of this, most of the florists and bakeries there are soon going to make this look like somebody forget to being enough rainbows:
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Posting more photos? What is the relevance of this one?
 
MLK would hang his head in shame with the liberals of today

Especially with Obama and his party of nasty haters
 
Please explain without calling names why having a sign up is such a bad idea. How is that a bad thing?
Having a sign up will hurt their business. People will see that here is a merchant who does not believe in equal rights.

But by not having a sign warning customers of their policy, the business can go on discriminating without the public blow back.
I'd like to see two stickers around a lot. The We Don't Discriminate on the store windows, and the This Person Buys From Bigots slapped on the car bumpers of those who do.
The later would be a illegal, moron. Store owners are free to put whatever sign the like in their windows. That is, they are for the moment.
The latter would be the fun part. Believe me, if you don't bake cakes for fags everyone is about to know it and that is not going to be good for business in the long run. While the Jesusfreaks may flock to buy cupcakes in the beginning, the corporate guys will ask for their orders to come in unmarked boxes and soon after stop calling period. That's what put good old Melissa out of business.

Yes, I'm sure looting and vandalizing the property of people you hate would be fun for a gang of thugs. That's the kind of thing the Nazis were so famous for, and i know how you admire them. This country will be a long way down the rode to putting enemies of the people in concentration camps if such a law is ever enacted.
 
THE RABBI SAID:

“It's a violation of their conscience. Isnt that obvious?”

What's obvious is that public accommodations laws are not a 'violation' of anyone's conscience.

Public accommodations laws are regulatory, just and proper measures whose sole intent is to regulate commerce, not 'violate' religious practice. That some might perceive public accommodations laws as 'violating' religious liberty is subjective and incorrect.
Yes they are. Only morons and fascist thugs disagree.
 
"A member of the H. of Rep. offer a bill to add the LGBT community to the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and see how many members from each Caucus sign on as co-sponsors"

Something that should be done but unfortunately won't, given the current makeup of Congress and the unwarranted hostility toward gay Americans coming mostly from the right.
Actually, it wasn't the "same thing"

Lying as always, eh shitflinger?

{(a) IN GENERAL- Government shall not substantially burden a person’s exercise of religion even if the burden results from a rule of general applicability, except as provided in subsection (b).



(b) EXCEPTION- Government may substantially burden a person’s exercise of religion only if it demonstrates that application of the burden to the person--

(1) is in furtherance of a compelling governmental interest; and

(2) is the least restrictive means of furthering that compelling governmental interest.}

Is that Indiana, or the Clinton bill, shitflinger?

quiet, hack. what religion requires that you discriminate against people?

you loons said the same thing when you were opposing desegregation.

Choices regarding one's sexual behavior, are irrelevant to rules, regulations and laws regarding RACE.

Discrimination against people known for their poor choices, is a fundamental NECESSITY OF NATURE.
Sexual orientation si an immutable trait, not a choice.

Prove it.

Psychologists claim paedophilia is an immutable trait. Are you going to be defending their "right" to molest little boys next?
 
They're breaking out the Islamic extremist photos, linking them to Liberalism and claiming they are correct.

What do we know for certain once the Rabid Right leans on its Islamic decapitation meme?

A) They are terribly desperate to make some kind of cogent point, but they fail as usual

B) They know they are losing the argument so tripping down a primrose path is their only recourse.

Ah! Social Conservatives! We can read you like a Bible, which you so rarely read yourselves.
It's partly political, but it's lovely irony how Indiana and Pence literally tripped over their own dicks on this. The law was in response to Fed Ct rulings that Indiana must allow gay marriage. No bakers were yet sued, but oh those GOP legislators had to be ready .... but for what? So, they tweaked the bill so that it would apply to private actions of one person v another person.

But, but .... Indiana had no law preventing discrimination against gays in the first place. That's right, if you're an employer in the Hoosier state, you can fire the queers! But, but what of the bakers? Surely they should not be forced to bake. But, but Indiana had no private accommodation law, so the gays couldn't make the state fine those bakers.

In fine Hoosier fashion, Indiana passed a law solving imaginary problems, and in doing so proudly announced Indiana is the place to discriminate against gays .... and anybody else whose religious morals one doesn't like!

Forget it Pence, the GOP already has the special ed candidate in Rick Perry.

Why no one understands Indiana s new religious freedom law - The Washington Post
 
Homosexual sex between consenting adults is legal.

So you're saying then that Homosexual behavior which occurred prior to the dropping of Laws which made it illegal, was wrong? Thus by logical extension, you're saying that it was wrong to remove those laws, providing for the acceptance of behavior which was wrong?

OH! Well... welcome back.

You're asking them to use logic, which is a futile endeavor. Watch, they will totally ignore the point you made and resort to their usual baiting, insulting and deflection.
 
They're breaking out the Islamic extremist photos, linking them to Liberalism and claiming they are correct.

What do we know for certain once the Rabid Right leans on its Islamic decapitation meme?

A) They are terribly desperate to make some kind of cogent point, but they fail as usual

B) They know they are losing the argument so tripping down a primrose path is their only recourse.

Ah! Social Conservatives! We can read you like a Bible, which you so rarely read yourselves.
It's partly political, but it's lovely irony how Indiana and Pence literally tripped over their own dicks on this. The law was in response to Fed Ct rulings that Indiana must allow gay marriage. No bakers were yet sued, but oh those GOP legislators had to be ready .... but for what? So, they tweaked the bill so that it would apply to private actions of one person v another person.

But, but .... Indiana had no law preventing discrimination against gays in the first place. That's right, if you're an employer in the Hoosier state, you can fire the queers! But, but what of the bakers? Surely they should not be forced to bake. But, but Indiana had no private accommodation law, so the gays couldn't make the state fine those bakers.

In fine Hoosier fashion, Indiana passed a law solving imaginary problems, and in doing so proudly announced Indiana is the place to discriminate against gays .... and anybody else whose religious morals one doesn't like!

Forget it Pence, the GOP already has the special ed candidate in Rick Perry.

Why no one understands Indiana s new religious freedom law - The Washington Post

A baker in another state was sued. Anyone could easily see what was coming. They made sure such travesties of justice weren't going to happen in Indiana. Why should they wait until the gay Mafia scores its first victim?
 
NCAA: 'If we have to move events' from Indiana, 'we'll do it'
Source: Indianapolis Star

NCAA President Mark Emmert is confident his organization can put on a terrific Final Four this weekend in Indianapolis despite the controversy related to the state legislature's passing last week of the 'religious freedom' bill.

However, Emmert didn't deny it could lead to significant changes in the NCAA's relationship with Indianapolis and the state of Indiana beyond this weekend.

... The president didn't say he would move the women's Final Four or the organization's headquarters from Indy, but he also didn't rule it out.

"I'm not sure about that," he said. "We'd have to consider it and discuss it. We'd do it deliberately and thoughtfully. You don't want to disrupt an event that's been in the making so long it'll change the experience for the student-athletes, but if we have to move events, we'll do it and do it in a way that provides student athletes they deserve and worked for."

Read more: Emmert indicates RFRA could lead to significant changes for NCAA Indiana
 

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