WikiLeaks reveals that Arab allies urged U.S. to strike Iran

Yeah.....why can't they fight like gentlemen, huh??

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What the fuck are you talking about?

He's a troll.

He's comparing the hit and run tactics we used during the Revolution to todays terrorist.

Ignoring the fact that we went after military targets and thier suppliers and that terrorist kill children in open markets.

Getting a seroius conversation outta him is like getting blood from a stone.

I didn't know Americans hid behind women and children during the Revolutionary war, what a crock of shit.
 
Yeah.....why can't they fight like gentlemen, huh??

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What the fuck are you talking about?

He's a troll.

He's comparing the hit and run tactics we used during the Revolution to todays terrorist.
Yeah, that'd definitely be the downside to CONSISTENCY!!!!!!

"This is the tough reality I faced in Vietnam. I knew while I was there that if I were Vietnamese, I would have been one of the Vietcong."
 
The regular Arabs on the street think that US and Israel are their biggest threats but their governments are thinking otherwise, if they believed that they would not be trying to make a deal for US and Israel to strike Irans nuclear facilities.
Would you agree with Noam when he says "latest polls show Arab opinion holds that the major threat in the region is Israel, that's 80 percent; the second threat is the United States, that's 77 percent.

"Iran is listed as a threat by 10 percent," Chomsky says.

"This may not be reported in the newspapers, but it's certainly familiar to the Israeli and U.S. governments and the ambassadors.

"What this reveals is the profound hatred for democracy on the part of our political leadership."

Noam Chomsky - Wikileaks

This is the opinion of regular every day Arabs or their governments?
This appears to be the opinion of the Arab street.

Brookings: 2010 Arab Public...

You may remember prior to the US invasion of Iraq world opinion was virtually 90% opposed and most Americans did NOT favor invasion.

That changed as soon as the first US soldier/Marine went in harms way, which is something those who get rich from war have counted on for thousands of years.

War is a Racket
 
NYT: Arab allies urged U.S. to strike Iran - World news - The New York Times - msnbc.com
By David E. Sanger, James Glanz and Jo Becker
The New York Times
updated 11/28/2010 3:45:17 PM ET 2010-11-28T20:45:17

I've been glancing at this crap on and off most of the day.

In late May 2009, Israel’s defense minister, Ehud Barak, used a visit from a Congressional delegation to send a pointed message to the new American president.

In a secret cable sent back to Washington, the American ambassador to Israel, James B. Cunningham, reported that Mr. Barak had argued that the world had 6 to 18 months “in which stopping Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons might still be viable.” After that, Mr. Barak said, “any military solution would result in unacceptable collateral damage.”




His plea was shared by many of America’s Arab allies, including the powerful King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, who according to another cable repeatedly implored Washington to “cut off the head of the snake” while there was still time.




I been thinking and thinking; Why oh why don't THEY work together and go to war with Iran themselves?

Are these "people" so selfish that they want Americans to die in thier stead?
Are they all a bunch of cowards?

How can Arabs and Jews agree that Iran needs to be crushed, but won't do anything?

I've never been a fan of Israel and could care less about our Arab allies, but that would take effort. But I don't see why we keep supporting them when they want us to die to do thier dirty work?

i propose an analogy: if you call the police when there is a problem, the police are empowered.

this is the sort of power which american policy has sought since tripoli.
I'd say we got started a little-earlier, than THAT!!!!
 
What the fuck are you talking about?

He's a troll.

He's comparing the hit and run tactics we used during the Revolution to todays terrorist.

Ignoring the fact that we went after military targets and thier suppliers and that terrorist kill children in open markets.

Getting a seroius conversation outta him is like getting blood from a stone.

I didn't know Americans hid behind women and children during the Revolutionary war, what a crock of shit.

Stick around a bit and you will see a couple more on USMB. American haters, that is, not just trolls.

I'll be the first to admit that America isn't perfect, but I have been to many other countries, lived in Italy, and I can tell you there is no place better than America.

How many other countries have people risking death in the desert or drowning in the Gulf just to get here?
 
NYT: Arab allies urged U.S. to strike Iran - World news - The New York Times - msnbc.com
By David E. Sanger, James Glanz and Jo Becker
The New York Times
updated 11/28/2010 3:45:17 PM ET 2010-11-28T20:45:17

I've been glancing at this crap on and off most of the day.

In late May 2009, Israel’s defense minister, Ehud Barak, used a visit from a Congressional delegation to send a pointed message to the new American president.

In a secret cable sent back to Washington, the American ambassador to Israel, James B. Cunningham, reported that Mr. Barak had argued that the world had 6 to 18 months “in which stopping Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons might still be viable.” After that, Mr. Barak said, “any military solution would result in unacceptable collateral damage.”




His plea was shared by many of America’s Arab allies, including the powerful King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, who according to another cable repeatedly implored Washington to “cut off the head of the snake” while there was still time.




I been thinking and thinking; Why oh why don't THEY work together and go to war with Iran themselves?

Are these "people" so selfish that they want Americans to die in thier stead?
Are they all a bunch of cowards?

How can Arabs and Jews agree that Iran needs to be crushed, but won't do anything?

I've never been a fan of Israel and could care less about our Arab allies, but that would take effort. But I don't see why we keep supporting them when they want us to die to do thier dirty work?

i propose an analogy: if you call the police when there is a problem, the police are empowered.

this is the sort of power which american policy has sought since tripoli.

Hmm

Ok then. Why have we not gone in? It would be a conventional war. [men in uniform killing men in different uniforms] And that is something we can do better than any country out there.
.....At least, we've always TOLD OURSELVES, THAT!!!!

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I guess that's why we've been outta Afghanistan, for so long......

:rolleyes:
 
He's a troll.

He's comparing the hit and run tactics we used during the Revolution to todays terrorist.

Ignoring the fact that we went after military targets and thier suppliers and that terrorist kill children in open markets.

Getting a seroius conversation outta him is like getting blood from a stone.

I didn't know Americans hid behind women and children during the Revolutionary war, what a crock of shit.

Stick around a bit and you will see a couple more on USMB. American haters, that is, not just trolls.

I'll be the first to admit that America isn't perfect, but I have been to many other countries, lived in Italy, and I can tell you there is no place better than America.

How many other countries have people risking death in the desert or drowning in the Gulf just to get here?

I have also been around the world and I can tell you this, America is the only country I have been to where citizens actually hate their country and want to see it fail. I have been to shitty countries like Egypt and Saudi Arabia and even though those countries suck, those citizens would start a fight with you if you say one bad word about them.
 
NYT: Arab allies urged U.S. to strike Iran - World news - The New York Times - msnbc.com
By David E. Sanger, James Glanz and Jo Becker
The New York Times
updated 11/28/2010 3:45:17 PM ET 2010-11-28T20:45:17

I've been glancing at this crap on and off most of the day.

In late May 2009, Israel’s defense minister, Ehud Barak, used a visit from a Congressional delegation to send a pointed message to the new American president.

In a secret cable sent back to Washington, the American ambassador to Israel, James B. Cunningham, reported that Mr. Barak had argued that the world had 6 to 18 months “in which stopping Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons might still be viable.” After that, Mr. Barak said, “any military solution would result in unacceptable collateral damage.”




His plea was shared by many of America’s Arab allies, including the powerful King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, who according to another cable repeatedly implored Washington to “cut off the head of the snake” while there was still time.




I been thinking and thinking; Why oh why don't THEY work together and go to war with Iran themselves?

Are these "people" so selfish that they want Americans to die in thier stead?
Are they all a bunch of cowards?

How can Arabs and Jews agree that Iran needs to be crushed, but won't do anything?

I've never been a fan of Israel and could care less about our Arab allies, but that would take effort. But I don't see why we keep supporting them when they want us to die to do thier dirty work?

Why don't they do it themselves?

Because they think we are stupid enough to do their dirty work for them.

In defense of them, we have been stupid enough to do their dirty work for them in the past.

Looks like the President choose to ignore the Saudis this time. I wonder why?

Oh yeah. Different President.

See. Elections DO have consequences.
 
NYT: Arab allies urged U.S. to strike Iran - World news - The New York Times - msnbc.com
By David E. Sanger, James Glanz and Jo Becker
The New York Times
updated 11/28/2010 3:45:17 PM ET 2010-11-28T20:45:17

I've been glancing at this crap on and off most of the day.

In late May 2009, Israel’s defense minister, Ehud Barak, used a visit from a Congressional delegation to send a pointed message to the new American president.

In a secret cable sent back to Washington, the American ambassador to Israel, James B. Cunningham, reported that Mr. Barak had argued that the world had 6 to 18 months “in which stopping Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons might still be viable.” After that, Mr. Barak said, “any military solution would result in unacceptable collateral damage.”




His plea was shared by many of America’s Arab allies, including the powerful King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, who according to another cable repeatedly implored Washington to “cut off the head of the snake” while there was still time.




I been thinking and thinking; Why oh why don't THEY work together and go to war with Iran themselves?

Are these "people" so selfish that they want Americans to die in thier stead?
Are they all a bunch of cowards?

How can Arabs and Jews agree that Iran needs to be crushed, but won't do anything?

I've never been a fan of Israel and could care less about our Arab allies, but that would take effort. But I don't see why we keep supporting them when they want us to die to do thier dirty work?

i propose an analogy: if you call the police when there is a problem, the police are empowered.

this is the sort of power which american policy has sought since tripoli.

Hmm

Ok then. Why have we not gone in? It would be a conventional war. [men in uniform killing men in different uniforms] And that is something we can do better than any country out there.

I'm not discounting the fact that people will be killed, I'm considering that fewer people will die than if we wait until after Iran gets a nuke.

No war in the 21st century is going to be "conventional". There might be a conventional phase in the beginning, but eventually it will turn into a counterinsurgency fight.

Don't you guys watch the news?
 
The Arabs took over the country the natives that actually built the Pyramids and that whole culture were pretty much wiped out, just like the Native Americans over here. The majority of Egyptians that live in Egypt now have nothing to do with the ancient civilization that built the Pyramids.

It was dying long prior to that. The Ptolemys were the ones that built the Great Library and ran the show after Alexander conquered Egypt. The Ptolemys, and Alexander had a deep respect for Egyptian culture and under them Egypt became a crown jewel of the world again.

But when they lost to the Romans the Romans decided to run the Nile Basin region in a manner totally different than how the rest of the Roman Empire was run. The Nile Basin provided a large portion of Rome's food, and as such it was ran by a military governor. They typically let everything go right down the tubes as long as the food kept coming. At one point in Egypt you had rioting Jews, Christians, and Muslims all going crazy, all the time. Poor Hypatia was killed by a Christian Mob. That's usually marked by Math Historians as the end of the Mathematics in Alexandria.

By the time the Muslims swept in as conquerors, there just wasn't much left at all. They certainly finished the job and wiped out what was left, so they're not exactly innocent in all this.
 
The Arabs would never work with Israel plus the Militaries of those Arab countries are a joke, Iraq was the toughest conventional Arab Military in the Middle East and look what the US did to them. Israel is the toughest Military in that region hands down.
I'm sure Custer made the same assumption....you know, with his state-o'-the-art weapons.

:rolleyes:

Really? which Middle Eastern country has a better Military than Israel? Egypt? Jordan? Syria? Kuwait? don't make me laugh.

The problem is that Israel itself is practically indefensible, even with the worlds greatest military. Not only that, war is now fought assymetrical, meaning Israel's military might is easily dealt with by simply not engaging Israel in a stand up fight.

Israel's foray into Lebanon not long ago didn't go so well. A lot of Arab countries are learning from what happened there.

Put that all together, and it explains why Israel doesn't act in such a heavy handed manner in the Middle East anymore. Without Nukes as a MAD weapon, they'd be in serious trouble.
 
We could bomb Iran back into the bronze age in 2 months.

yyeeaahh

But!

We would have to listen to people whine and cry about all those "innocent civilians".

They keep many of the military supplies and bases 'in' civilian areas, so we can't avoid killing bystaders.

There are no innocent civilians in Iran. Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out.
Yeah.....you really sound like someone who's BEEN in Iran.....

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.....ya' dumb, fuckin' redneck.​
 
NYT: Arab allies urged U.S. to strike Iran - World news - The New York Times - msnbc.com
By David E. Sanger, James Glanz and Jo Becker
The New York Times
updated 11/28/2010 3:45:17 PM ET 2010-11-28T20:45:17

I've been glancing at this crap on and off most of the day.

In late May 2009, Israel’s defense minister, Ehud Barak, used a visit from a Congressional delegation to send a pointed message to the new American president.

In a secret cable sent back to Washington, the American ambassador to Israel, James B. Cunningham, reported that Mr. Barak had argued that the world had 6 to 18 months “in which stopping Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons might still be viable.” After that, Mr. Barak said, “any military solution would result in unacceptable collateral damage.”




His plea was shared by many of America’s Arab allies, including the powerful King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, who according to another cable repeatedly implored Washington to “cut off the head of the snake” while there was still time.




I been thinking and thinking; Why oh why don't THEY work together and go to war with Iran themselves?

Are these "people" so selfish that they want Americans to die in thier stead?
Are they all a bunch of cowards?

How can Arabs and Jews agree that Iran needs to be crushed, but won't do anything?

I've never been a fan of Israel and could care less about our Arab allies, but that would take effort. But I don't see why we keep supporting them when they want us to die to do thier dirty work?

Why don't they do it themselves?

Because they think we are stupid enough to do their dirty work for them.

In defense of them, we have been stupid enough to do their dirty work for them in the past.

Looks like the President choose to ignore the Saudis this time. I wonder why?

Oh yeah. Different President.

See. Elections DO have consequences
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Nice assumption, and nothing more
 
the prospect of 'going in' seems logical to you? No. That's why I asked the question. And gave an example of how it might turn out.

notwithstanding the fact that we garner our status from military influence, certainly you can appreciate that we could 'go in' to NK, about 12 african states, the russian federation, cuba, venezuela and canada (;)). Invade Canada? OK, but only the French Canadians b/c they don't talk like us at all. :eusa_drool: the point being that we have to pick our battles. diplomacy is the tool that having a big military and massive trade capacity affords us. using the big military at the expense of the trade capacity has been the mistake of the century thus far in that it exposes the frailties behind our big punch.

if i were to do something to iran, it wont be an invasion in a third theater. that's probably why arabs and israelis beg and we say no like a mom in the candy aisle at the grocery store.

So you think it may be intentional to get us to waste more of our resouces? The war must be great for the oil shieks, b/c it raises demand on thier #1 product.

it could be sinister, but the arabs and israelis recognize iran as a serious liability to them. this is the same sort of recognition that saddam got. i just feel that we were more pliable in 2003 and cheaper in terms of concessions needed to get us mobilized. it is easy to blame this wholly on bush, and he does deserve to wear the diplomatic dunce cap for the eager invasion of iraq, but there was also 9/11 and the massive american war mandate behind him, too.
Yeah....the mandate THEY CREATED!!!!!

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another perspective is that this is just the sort of guantlet we've seen nuclear states go through as they obtained the bomb. after they've got it, they're in an old-boys club and everything's (uneasy) smiles. look at pakistan, india, china, south africa...
Bingo!!!!

People ask WHY Iran thinks they need nukes?

All they've gotta do is POINT TO IRAQ!!!!!!!
 
Well in that case we can make most of the region unlivable for decades to come!

Muhaha


I've been to the region and it already is unlivable.

HAHAHA

I was on a sub-tender that pulled into Alexandria Egypt. As we approached I was on deck b/c I wanted to see this legendary city, (it was a tannish brown). As we approached the break water, I say these brown tentacles coming out of the port area into the Med. It was the filth that was the run off from the city. the break water was a brown and blue line. The Med was blue, the port was brown. And that is what kids played in and people bathed in.
Yeah.....they (quite) obviously needed to be taught-about safeguarding their environment!!!

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:rolleyes:
 
I've been to the region and it already is unlivable.

HAHAHA

I was on a sub-tender that pulled into Alexandria Egypt. As we approached I was on deck b/c I wanted to see this legendary city, (it was a tannish brown). As we approached the break water, I say these brown tentacles coming out of the port area into the Med. It was the filth that was the run off from the city. the break water was a brown and blue line. The Med was blue, the port was brown. And that is what kids played in and people bathed in.
Yeah.....they (quite) obviously needed to be taught-about safeguarding their environment!!!

Gulf-Coast-Photo-Gallery-17.jpg

bird-oil-spill.png



:rolleyes:

Man what the fuck is wrong with you? are you playing around in a sand box full of crystal meth? at least Americans for the most part care about their environments, Arabs don't give a fuck about the environment.
 
HAHAHA

I was on a sub-tender that pulled into Alexandria Egypt. As we approached I was on deck b/c I wanted to see this legendary city, (it was a tannish brown). As we approached the break water, I say these brown tentacles coming out of the port area into the Med. It was the filth that was the run off from the city. the break water was a brown and blue line. The Med was blue, the port was brown. And that is what kids played in and people bathed in.
Yeah.....they (quite) obviously needed to be taught-about safeguarding their environment!!!

Gulf-Coast-Photo-Gallery-17.jpg

bird-oil-spill.png



:rolleyes:

Man what the fuck is wrong with you? are you playing around in a sand box full of crystal meth? at least Americans for the most part care about their environments, Arabs don't give a fuck about the environment.

H-G, he's a self hating troll that only hates America more than himself.

He's never been anywhere or done anything, so he has no idea what the rest of the world is like. He is told his opinion by the far left fringe media, and can't form any discussion on his own.

That's why all the one liners with pic, vids and links. Deep understanding or full conversation is beyond him.

"Playing around in a sand box full of crystal meth" HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
 
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