Fine. Just don't challenge what I told you.
You told me that capitalism is a form of socialism. I'm not "challenging" that, I'm saying you are utterly full of shit. Or as we called people full of shit when I grew up in Michigan, you're "Canadian"
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Fine. Just don't challenge what I told you.
After I had to bail out GM to the tune of $50 billion and then Obama gave the union 1/3 ownership of GM I don't want to hear another sob story from the UAW.Unions bankrupt the automakers, then the TAX PAYER bails them out. They are trying to do it again. Fuck that.
They want what government workers have, a taxpayer funded sweetheart deal with early retirement and Cadilac benefits for life.A 46% pay increase and a 4 day work week. GTFO
That's a real issue. America's carmakers are already not capable of competing. There's a suitable answer for capitalists and socialists alikeUnions bankrupt the automakers, then the TAX PAYER bails them out. They are trying to do it again. Fuck that.
I am not in the welfare business.
I have no desire to pay bloated union wages.
An auto factory line worker is not very much more skilled than a line worker at McDonalds.
Encouraging higher wages only increases inflation more than it is now. Wages are not keeping up with inflation. The higher inflation goes, the more workers fall behind.My uncle, and Dad worked at Ford motor company. My grandfather work for Bethlehem Steel. So many of our American ancestors black-and-white worked these very jobs that built the country we live in. Everyone knows that the Bridges, road signs, buildings we have we’re built by these types of workers. Including many women.
Well, there’s many working class Republicans making under $20 an hour some under $15 an hour all throughout America. They should know that we have a chance at bringing back industry in America like it used to be for perhaps 50 years or even 70 years. You used to get a job out high school making over $30 an hour …and you did not have to live like a slave in this country making $15 an hour. If we can get the right leaders in power, we can bring back American industry.
It’s always unfortunate to see a republican who makes under $20 an hour say that he is upset to see UAW workers, striking demanding better wages. We already live in a country with a horrible Joe Biden inflation economy. So therefore, people in industry deserve better wages. We’re not talking about McDonald’s workers. We’re not talking about Walmart workers. Those who work the UAW jobs work in industry that is vital to this country.
Simply remember that the UAW strikes of history involves working class white people who served in World War II who fought in the Vietnam war. There is all the reason in the world for working class Republicans to support the UAW strikes.
At the very least after 90 days on the job, somebody at ford deserves to be making over $30 an hour. That’s the wage they got adjusted for inflation for 50 years in this country. There’s no reason for it to not happen again. It’s only the corporations and some Chinese companies who are paying a garbage wage that want Republicans to be against the UAW.
So dont work for them if they do not pay enpugh. I do not work at McDonalds.
A janitor should earn $30/hour?
Hmmmmm
Fuck the unions and fuck Joe Biden.
Unions bankrupt the automakers, then the TAX PAYER bails them out. They are trying to do it again. Fuck that.
My point is to bring back the system we had from 1940 until 2000. Because back in those days we had quality wages for industry workers which we should have today.Encouraging higher wages only increases inflation more than it is now. Wages are not keeping up with inflation. The higher inflation goes, the more workers fall behind.
Much of your writing is just slightly too fast for your brain. That doesn't have to be so, and you've done better to prove it.My argument, is that the unions of American history were all about American greatness. I surely disagreed wMy argument is that the unions of American history were all about American greatness. I surely disagreed with a lot of the far left wing unions of today if that is not the point of this thread. The UAW supported the World War II effort. You might not know that most republican and democrats of the 1950s supported the UAW.
The problem in our country today would be Black Lives Matter and LGBT extremism coupled with terrible jobs. Well, the fact is the reason why we are the best country in the world when it comes to our military when it comes to our roads and bridges at least in the 20th century was because of manufacturing jobs. And it worked for 50 years nobody can tinnitus for 50 years you had a system where you could get a good job at an auto plant right out of high school.
It makes no sense for any working class Man republican or democrat would be against bringing back those glory days. That’s what this entire thread is about. That’s what the original post is about. Often in this type of thread, there are communication issues.
Industry has good paying jobs and benefits. The UAW strike is a perfect example. They were just fine with their last contract. They accepted it. Now, after the contract expires, all of a sudden those wages were slave wages and unacceptable.My point is to bring back the system we had from 1940 until 2000. Because back in those days we had quality wages for industry workers which we should have today.
I’m not talking about McDonald’s jobs, I’m not talking about Walmart I’m talking about American industry. Pay those folks what they used to make for 70 years. Because back in those days our economy was way better. So there’s really no argument against these points I’m making because I’m talking about bringing back the prosperity we had in the 1950s
True Ford, in general motors have some work to do to improve on their sedans. Now the F150 truck is the best truck in the industryThe problem is the unions receive a large cut of the money that could go to employees. The other problem is the UAW takes a lot of responsibility for the USA building shitty fucking vehicles.
It’s a workers themselves who want to get the wages that they used to get for decades on end.Industry has good paying jobs and benefits. The UAW strike is a perfect example. They were just fine with their last contract. They accepted it. Now, after the contract expires, all of a sudden those wages were slave wages and unacceptable.
True Ford, in general motors have some work to do to improve on their sedans. Now the F150 truck is the best truck in the industry
But for most of the 20th century if not all of it American auto companies dominated. I’m simply saying let’s get back to that time.
Some folks in America who oppose unions are unaware that in the 1950s tons of Republicans worked at auto plans. Right alongside Democrats. And they made a justified wage because they built this country. Same thing with the steel workers.
Those jobs made men and women, strong and honorable.
Look at the job today people working from home, people working at Walmart, Amazon. This is not the America the World War II generation fought for .
I’m saying we need to bring back American industry. Millions upon millions of Americans from the 1950s would agree with me. It is those types of people that shape my viewpoint. And they are black, they are white. They are men and women who buy the millions worked in American industry to build our bridges, road signs and skyscrapers.
Every union is different. Historically speaking, the united auto workers was on the right side of history. Supporting the World War II effort. Supporting the American man and woman who wanted a honorable wage.The problem is the unions receive a large cut of the money that could go to employees. The other problem is the UAW takes a lot of responsibility for the USA building shitty fucking vehicles.
There must be another way. Look back at what we had from 1950 to about 1980. All of those companies were right here in America….other countries were building their own automobiles and steel plants but they could not compete with America. We need to try and bring back the American past.For US auto companies to dominate again, they first need to move manufacturing to right to work States and foreign countries
In the rust belt areas, we had millions of jobs readily available right out of high school. Even for people who dropped out of high school. Don’t listen to anti-Americans who hate it when the workingman gets paid a good wage.That's about right. Even back when I was a kid, in the 1970's, it was very hard for a high school graduate to get a well paying job. The vast majority of young people had to start out at something that paid shittily.
There must be another way. Look back at what we had from 1950 to about 1980. All of those companies were right here in America….other countries were building their own automobiles and steel plants but they could not compete with America. We need to try and bring back the American past.