Why Liberals hate Corporations......

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Union busting,

thats your best example of exploiting workers???????Unions should be busted and made illegal again for making cheap junk at high prices and thus shipping 10 million jobs offshore!! Is a union creating unemployment exploiting workers?? Why don't liberals think????

The economics of unions is easy:


1) They raise prices so those not in unions get poorer because of the high priced union junk they must buy. No net benefit is possible to workers.

2) Unions drove perhaps 10 million jobs off shore with their high wages. No net benefit to workers is possible.

3) Unions encourage people to get ahead through violence rather than by being worth more in the market place.

4) Politicians encourage unions as a source of money and votes, but politicians, unions, and non-union workers who support unions don't have the IQ to know that no net benefit to workers or consumers is possible through unions.


1) of course without a liberal budget deficit the job total stays the same here because China has to buy our goods with their Walmart dollars and so creates jobs here. IF they buy liberal's debt it creates unemployment


2) also if Americans had to pay for high priced liberal union made junk, for example, they could afford to buy less stuff and so factories would close creating unemployment here!! Econ 101. the poorer unions make us the less we buy and the more unemployment we have.

 

[IsaacNewton]

The OP is nothing more than a loaded question. Not worth responding to as the premise is a fantasy of one mind.

Post up a normal poll next time, I like clicking radio buttons!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Capitalism is all about profit..

of course thats stupid and illiterate. The beauty of capitalism is that it forces you to provide the best jobs and products just to survive. Imagine one company concerned only with profit and another concerned with taking care of its workers and customers. Which would survive?? Still over your head??

China just switched to capitalism and instantly eliminated 40% of the planets poverty after liberal regulation had starved 60 million to death?. How is that for exploiting workers? See why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance/

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The OP is nothing more than a loaded question. Not worth responding to as the premise is a fantasy of one mind.

Post up a normal poll next time, I like clicking radio buttons!

wrong of course. Marx hated corporations and so do our Marxist illiterate liberals!!

 

[IsaacNewton]

The OP is nothing more than a loaded question. Not worth responding to as the premise is a fantasy of one mind.

Post up a normal poll next time, I like clicking radio buttons!

wrong of course. Marx hated corporations and so do our Marxist illiterate liberals!!

You are a Marxist, so go live where you'll feel better.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

And why is trump and the right working so hard to take basic rights away from American workers?

like by getting 30 million of them jobs at higher pay by shipping 30 million illegals home!!
is getting them a job taking away basic rights?????? See why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

You are a Marxist, .

if you have evidence I will pay you $10,000. Bet or run away with your liberal tail between your legs once again!!

 

[IsaacNewton]

You are a Marxist, .

if you have evidence I will pay you $10,000. Bet or run away with your liberal tail between your legs once again!!

Yet you label everyone else without 'evidence'. Doesn't your arm get tired swinging that gavel judge? You live in Meme-landia.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

You live in Meme-landia.

if you disagree with conservatism/libetarianism cut the BS and tell us why or admit you lack the IQ to be here.

 

[IsaacNewton]

You live in Meme-landia.

if you disagree with conservatism/libetarianism cut the BS and tell us why or admit you lack the IQ to be here.

You are just one angry person dude. Move along to one of the KKK threads, they'll love you there.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

You live in Meme-landia.

if you disagree with conservatism/libetarianism cut the BS and tell us why or admit you lack the IQ to be here.

You are just one angry person dude. Move along to one of the KKK threads, they'll love you there.

typical liberal trying to use personal attack when he lacks IQ for substance. Do you want to be a liberal all your life?

 

[IsaacNewton]

You live in Meme-landia.

if you disagree with conservatism/libetarianism cut the BS and tell us why or admit you lack the IQ to be here.

You are just one angry person dude. Move along to one of the KKK threads, they'll love you there.

typical liberal trying to use personal attack when he lacks IQ for substance. Do you want to be a liberal all your life?

Off to ignore for you donald derpy.

 

[MindWars]

Where to start...

Leftists do not appear to understand what a "corporation" is. It is a FICTITIOUS person, created by the state, at the request of an investor or investors. The reason for its creation is generally revealed in the articles of incorporation, but the corporations in question are created for one purpose: to make money for the investors. Period. They are not created to be kind or generous, or to be "good citizens."

The officers and managers and employees of a corporation have one overriding goal: To protect the interests of the Owners/Shareholders. To make them money, and hopefully increase the value of their investment.

They make money by providing desirable goods or services to people who want them, at a price that is greater than the cost to produce them, thus rendering a "profit." EVERY SINGLE CUSTOMER of that corporation believes, at the time of purchase, that the value of the goods and services is greater than or equal to the price paid. Otherwise the customer is an idiot.

So consider the hiring of an employee. Say the corporation requires someone who can use sophisticated equipment to apply paint and other coatings to their products. And say that this skill can be learned by a reasonably intelligent person in a couple of days. If the corporation can find such a person who is willing to work for $10/hour, why would it pay $10.01? Or more?

The corporation doesn't care if the prospective employee has school loans, has a family to feed, or lives under a bridge - nor should it. And if it CAN'T find someone acceptable to work for $10/hr and has to pay $12 in order to get the people they want to apply, the corporation will do that. Or if it finds that people hired at $10/hr tend to be lazy, unreliable, or accident prone, then they might decide to pay more and raise their standards. It is neither good nor bad, it just is.

Leftists think corporations should be obliged to be "kind" and "generous" to their employees (and to their customers). They think that corporations should BE FORCED to pay a "living wage." But this is literally stupid, as well as counter-productive.

Employment is, in the private sector, an entirely voluntary affair. EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE has made the decision, whether s/he thinks about it overtly or not, that THIS PARTICULAR JOB is the BEST THAT S/HE CAN DO at that given time. If there were a better job available, s/he would take it. And the employer has decided that this employee is worth the money it pays; otherwise the employee would be replaced.

IT IS AN ENTIRELY VOLUNTARY ARRANGEMENT. To say that the corporation should pay more because some outside agency believes that the wages are "not enough" is just silly.

But then, Leftists are silly.

You may consider me a leftist or a liberal in this regard but many of the bigger corporations have gotten out of hand. They believe and they do act as though they are above the law. They believe that congress is theirs to control for their profit margins alone, they do payoff bureaucrats, break the law, and pay off officials to overcome their own illegal actions. It is a failed system when they can claim they are too big to fail, use their power, connections, and positions to abuse the law, to payoff legislators, foreign nationals, or bureaucrats to make rules and decisions that put them in a favorable light when it can, has, and will damage others. Many of them go to a lot of efforts avoid a level playing field for all. Those kind of dynasties are not what this country was made great on. Its a form of communism that will fail as giants are allowed to rule over every aspect of other peoples lives in this country. To attempt to overcome these rabid wolves that have infiltrated our Republic Donald Trump was favored in the election. My hopes are that the people of this country will be able to recover the liberty that has been stolen from them by wolves in sheep's clothing

When the government and business work hand in hand(GM, CHRYSLER,GE and other liberal orgs) of course the people will suffer while those like Warren Buffet(who pays less tax rate than his secretary) funnel money into the hands of the liberal politicians so more federal funds or regulation go their way. When you know how liberals think, you understand how their liberal politicians screw them over time and again.

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Some will never understand what all of this even means . They are known as fake liberals.

 

[Nosmo King]

Union busting,

thats your best example of exploiting workers???????Unions should be busted and made illegal again for making cheap junk at high prices and thus shipping 10 million jobs offshore!! Is a union creating unemployment exploiting workers?? Why don't liberals think????

The economics of unions is easy:


1) They raise prices so those not in unions get poorer because of the high priced union junk they must buy. No net benefit is possible to workers.

2) Unions drove perhaps 10 million jobs off shore with their high wages. No net benefit to workers is possible.

3) Unions encourage people to get ahead through violence rather than by being worth more in the market place.

4) Politicians encourage unions as a source of money and votes, but politicians, unions, and non-union workers who support unions don't have the IQ to know that no net benefit to workers or consumers is possible through unions.


1) of course without a liberal budget deficit the job total stays the same here because China has to buy our goods with their Walmart dollars and so creates jobs here. IF they buy liberal's debt it creates unemployment


2) also if Americans had to pay for high priced liberal union made junk, for example, they could afford to buy less stuff and so factories would close creating unemployment here!! Econ 101. the poorer unions make us the less we buy and the more unemployment we have.

You're going to believe what you have been taught. You are going to your grave inculcated with false information and a warped attitude shaped and crafted by the media outlets you absorb re-enforcing your ideas rather than challenge them.

I'm not about to sweep away all the false notions you proffer. But I can say this: what you posted is 180 degrees in opposition to the truth as I know it and as many of your fellow American citizens know it.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

what you posted is 180 degrees in opposition to the truth.

well then you must have at least one good example of where the truth was mistaken?
You are afraid to present even one example?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Off to ignore for you donald derpy.

ever see a conservative who has to run from a debate? What do you learn from that?

 

[ScienceRocks]

The useful idiots are the ones that want all the wealth in the hands of the 1% and don't give a damn about the other 90% of this country...Idiots believe we shouldn't even be a first world country.

Mindwars, you're a idiot and a waste of skin.

 

[Nosmo King]

what you posted is 180 degrees in opposition to the truth.

well then you must have at least one good example of where the truth was mistaken?
You are afraid to present even one example?

Unions gave workers the right to collective bargaining. A fair shake. University NSA created the eight hour work day, the five day week and the weekend. Unions fought against child labor (talk about exploitation).

In my vast professional experience as Resident Engineer, union workers produced a product of superior quality compared to non union workers who were not adequately trained through apprenticeship programs.

Your claim,of violence is marginal, especially when the history of Homestead, PA and Flint, MI are thrown into the balance.

Union jobs, steelworkers right here in the Pittsburgh area where I live were shipped along with the mills themselves to Asia and Latin America.

You provided nothing of fact, merely conjecture.

But you're set in your ways and attitude. Nothing I can say will persuade you of anything true or different.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

This is one very stupid post. NOBODY on the right hates the poor and anyone who really believes that is an idiot. An ideological idiot.

the same, but opposite is true of the left; we don't hate corporations any more than the right hates on the poor.

The rhetoric from many on the Left indicates otherwise.

the left is for a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage so the poor can afford the things they need.

If the insurance companies were regulated more tightly employers could easily pay their employees more. It is not the pay it is all the extra cost that go along with raising the pay.

soviets regulated very tightly and everyone starved to death? Our Constitution deregulated business so competition would regulated it. Do you understand?

Who regulates the businesses going nuts hiring illegal immigrants, and outsourcing jobs for cheap labor mega profits at the expense of the masses?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The useful idiots are the ones that want all the wealth in the hands of the 1% .

Republicans want wealth more evenly spread out which is why they want to end the liberal policies that shipped 20 million jobs off shore, invited in 30 million illegals to take what is left and bid down wages. Do you have the IQ to understand?