Why Liberals hate Corporations......

[Mikeoxenormous]

Why Do Liberals Hate Corporate America?

Liberals seem to view corporations as some living being that makes money at the expense of other people.

A large company like, say, IBM, is comprised of, first and foremost, of a bunch of employees. Some of them make a lot of money and some make less, based on a free market determination of their value. The CEO makes more than the guy sweeping the halls at night. But, the guy who sweeps the floors is “profiting” from IBM’s success and would suffer by the failure many liberals would wish upon it (by losing his job). And, today, the floor sweeper is getting very generous benefits, including healthcare (benefits he will soon lose under Obamacare – more on that in my next blog entry).

IBM is owned by public shareholders, which are primarily large mutual funds, whose underlying shareholders (through IRAs, 401(k)’s, and pension funds, but often directly as well) are individuals, increasingly middle class individuals. So, when IBM does well and their stock price goes up, middle class shareholders do well.

So why do liberals hate corporations, yet say nothing about the WEALTH of liberal professional athletes and liberal Hollywood elites?

For the same but opposite reason the right hates the poor.

The right doesn't hate the poor, as is always shown with trying to bring jobs back to America, while the left bars the way by putting up regulations and taxes preventing those jobs. Liberals know when more people are employed and bring in their own money, they are personally satisfied so don't nee a liberal to tell them what to do. Shame more liberals are too stupid to know this, which is why they continue to wallow in the mud of establishment government.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Where to start...

Leftists do not appear to understand what a "corporation" is. It is a FICTITIOUS person, created by the state, at the request of an investor or investors. The reason for its creation is generally revealed in the articles of incorporation, but the corporations in question are created for one purpose: to make money for the investors. Period. They are not created to be kind or generous, or to be "good citizens."

The officers and managers and employees of a corporation have one overriding goal: To protect the interests of the Owners/Shareholders. To make them money, and hopefully increase the value of their investment.

They make money by providing desirable goods or services to people who want them, at a price that is greater than the cost to produce them, thus rendering a "profit." EVERY SINGLE CUSTOMER of that corporation believes, at the time of purchase, that the value of the goods and services is greater than or equal to the price paid. Otherwise the customer is an idiot.

So consider the hiring of an employee. Say the corporation requires someone who can use sophisticated equipment to apply paint and other coatings to their products. And say that this skill can be learned by a reasonably intelligent person in a couple of days. If the corporation can find such a person who is willing to work for $10/hour, why would it pay $10.01? Or more?

The corporation doesn't care if the prospective employee has school loans, has a family to feed, or lives under a bridge - nor should it. And if it CAN'T find someone acceptable to work for $10/hr and has to pay $12 in order to get the people they want to apply, the corporation will do that. Or if it finds that people hired at $10/hr tend to be lazy, unreliable, or accident prone, then they might decide to pay more and raise their standards. It is neither good nor bad, it just is.

Leftists think corporations should be obliged to be "kind" and "generous" to their employees (and to their customers). They think that corporations should BE FORCED to pay a "living wage." But this is literally stupid, as well as counter-productive.

Employment is, in the private sector, an entirely voluntary affair. EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE has made the decision, whether s/he thinks about it overtly or not, that THIS PARTICULAR JOB is the BEST THAT S/HE CAN DO at that given time. If there were a better job available, s/he would take it. And the employer has decided that this employee is worth the money it pays; otherwise the employee would be replaced.

IT IS AN ENTIRELY VOLUNTARY ARRANGEMENT. To say that the corporation should pay more because some outside agency believes that the wages are "not enough" is just silly.

But then, Leftists are silly.

You may consider me a leftist or a liberal in this regard but many of the bigger corporations have gotten out of hand. They believe and they do act as though they are above the law. They believe that congress is theirs to control for their profit margins alone, they do payoff bureaucrats, break the law, and pay off officials to overcome their own illegal actions. It is a failed system when they can claim they are too big to fail, use their power, connections, and positions to abuse the law, to payoff legislators, foreign nationals, or bureaucrats to make rules and decisions that put them in a favorable light when it can, has, and will damage others. Many of them go to a lot of efforts avoid a level playing field for all. Those kind of dynasties are not what this country was made great on. Its a form of communism that will fail as giants are allowed to rule over every aspect of other peoples lives in this country. To attempt to overcome these rabid wolves that have infiltrated our Republic Donald Trump was favored in the election. My hopes are that the people of this country will be able to recover the liberty that has been stolen from them by wolves in sheep's clothing

When the government and business work hand in hand(GM, CHRYSLER,GE and other liberal orgs) of course the people will suffer while those like Warren Buffet(who pays less tax rate than his secretary) funnel money into the hands of the liberal politicians so more federal funds or regulation go their way. When you know how liberals think, you understand how their liberal politicians screw them over time and again.

 

[RodISHI]

Where to start...

Leftists do not appear to understand what a "corporation" is. It is a FICTITIOUS person, created by the state, at the request of an investor or investors. The reason for its creation is generally revealed in the articles of incorporation, but the corporations in question are created for one purpose: to make money for the investors. Period. They are not created to be kind or generous, or to be "good citizens."

The officers and managers and employees of a corporation have one overriding goal: To protect the interests of the Owners/Shareholders. To make them money, and hopefully increase the value of their investment.

They make money by providing desirable goods or services to people who want them, at a price that is greater than the cost to produce them, thus rendering a "profit." EVERY SINGLE CUSTOMER of that corporation believes, at the time of purchase, that the value of the goods and services is greater than or equal to the price paid. Otherwise the customer is an idiot.

So consider the hiring of an employee. Say the corporation requires someone who can use sophisticated equipment to apply paint and other coatings to their products. And say that this skill can be learned by a reasonably intelligent person in a couple of days. If the corporation can find such a person who is willing to work for $10/hour, why would it pay $10.01? Or more?

The corporation doesn't care if the prospective employee has school loans, has a family to feed, or lives under a bridge - nor should it. And if it CAN'T find someone acceptable to work for $10/hr and has to pay $12 in order to get the people they want to apply, the corporation will do that. Or if it finds that people hired at $10/hr tend to be lazy, unreliable, or accident prone, then they might decide to pay more and raise their standards. It is neither good nor bad, it just is.

Leftists think corporations should be obliged to be "kind" and "generous" to their employees (and to their customers). They think that corporations should BE FORCED to pay a "living wage." But this is literally stupid, as well as counter-productive.

Employment is, in the private sector, an entirely voluntary affair. EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE has made the decision, whether s/he thinks about it overtly or not, that THIS PARTICULAR JOB is the BEST THAT S/HE CAN DO at that given time. If there were a better job available, s/he would take it. And the employer has decided that this employee is worth the money it pays; otherwise the employee would be replaced.

IT IS AN ENTIRELY VOLUNTARY ARRANGEMENT. To say that the corporation should pay more because some outside agency believes that the wages are "not enough" is just silly.

But then, Leftists are silly.

You may consider me a leftist or a liberal in this regard but many of the bigger corporations have gotten out of hand. They believe and they do act as though they are above the law. They believe that congress is theirs to control for their profit margins alone, they do payoff bureaucrats, break the law, and pay off officials to overcome their own illegal actions. It is a failed system when they can claim they are too big to fail, use their power, connections, and positions to abuse the law, to payoff legislators, foreign nationals, or bureaucrats to make rules and decisions that put them in a favorable light when it can, has, and will damage others. Many of them go to a lot of efforts avoid a level playing field for all. Those kind of dynasties are not what this country was made great on. Its a form of communism that will fail as giants are allowed to rule over every aspect of other peoples lives in this country. To attempt to overcome these rabid wolves that have infiltrated our Republic Donald Trump was favored in the election. My hopes are that the people of this country will be able to recover the liberty that has been stolen from them by wolves in sheep's clothing

When the government and business work hand in hand(GM, CHRYSLER,GE and other liberal orgs) of course the people will suffer while those like Warren Buffet(who pays less tax rate than his secretary) funnel money into the hands of the liberal politicians so more federal funds or regulation go their way. When you know how liberals think, you understand how their liberal politicians screw them over time and again.

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I wouldn't call the ones I am talking about "liberals". Dumb-ass new age 'liberals' who think they should be able to tell others how to think and live have been nothing more than tools that have been used to be tossed as soon as the fascist who desire to have total control have a grip tight enough to see their plan through.

Any corporation that can use taxpayer funds and payoffs to purposely undermine privately held company ownership needs to have strict binders on them. To allow anyone to go in as corporate raider making tens of millions, as they raid and raze these companies into the abyss while cooking the books, sabotaging small businesses, and cheating the stockholders of those companies is a shame, and a disgrace on our political, and justice system. Their buddy system should have been halted years ago but instead the people who could have stopped it looked the other way and allowed it to continue.

I am not impressed by the bullish unions or corporations either one as one hand is simply serving the other above and over the top of others who do not join in and want no part in their parties.

 

[danielpalos]

Why Do Liberals Hate Corporate America?

Liberals seem to view corporations as some living being that makes money at the expense of other people.

A large company like, say, IBM, is comprised of, first and foremost, of a bunch of employees. Some of them make a lot of money and some make less, based on a free market determination of their value. The CEO makes more than the guy sweeping the halls at night. But, the guy who sweeps the floors is “profiting” from IBM’s success and would suffer by the failure many liberals would wish upon it (by losing his job). And, today, the floor sweeper is getting very generous benefits, including healthcare (benefits he will soon lose under Obamacare – more on that in my next blog entry).

IBM is owned by public shareholders, which are primarily large mutual funds, whose underlying shareholders (through IRAs, 401(k)’s, and pension funds, but often directly as well) are individuals, increasingly middle class individuals. So, when IBM does well and their stock price goes up, middle class shareholders do well.

So why do liberals hate corporations, yet say nothing about the WEALTH of liberal professional athletes and liberal Hollywood elites?

For the same but opposite reason the right hates the poor.

This is one very stupid post. NOBODY on the right hates the poor and anyone who really believes that is an idiot. An ideological idiot.

the same, but opposite is true of the left; we don't hate corporations any more than the right hates on the poor.

The rhetoric from many on the Left indicates otherwise.

the left is for a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage so the poor can afford the things they need.

 

[RodISHI]

Why Do Liberals Hate Corporate America? So why do liberals hate corporations, yet say nothing about the WEALTH of liberal professional athletes and liberal Hollywood elites?

For the same but opposite reason the right hates the poor.

This is one very stupid post. NOBODY on the right hates the poor and anyone who really believes that is an idiot. An ideological idiot.

the same, but opposite is true of the left; we don't hate corporations any more than the right hates on the poor.

The rhetoric from many on the Left indicates otherwise.

the left is for a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage so the poor can afford the things they need.

If the insurance companies were regulated more tightly employers could easily pay their employees more. It is not the pay it is all the extra cost that go along with raising the pay.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Why Do Liberals Hate Corporate America? So why do liberals hate corporations, yet say nothing about the WEALTH of liberal professional athletes and liberal Hollywood elites?

For the same but opposite reason the right hates the poor.

This is one very stupid post. NOBODY on the right hates the poor and anyone who really believes that is an idiot. An ideological idiot.

the same, but opposite is true of the left; we don't hate corporations any more than the right hates on the poor.

The rhetoric from many on the Left indicates otherwise.

the left is for a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage so the poor can afford the things they need.

$15/hour will cause McDonalds to buy robots not hire workers thus human workers will be able to afford less.!!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

For the same but opposite reason the right hates the poor.

This is one very stupid post. NOBODY on the right hates the poor and anyone who really believes that is an idiot. An ideological idiot.

the same, but opposite is true of the left; we don't hate corporations any more than the right hates on the poor.

The rhetoric from many on the Left indicates otherwise.

the left is for a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage so the poor can afford the things they need.

If the insurance companies were regulated more tightly employers could easily pay their employees more. It is not the pay it is all the extra cost that go along with raising the pay.

soviets regulated very tightly and everyone starved to death? Our Constitution deregulated business so competition would regulated it. Do you understand?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Any corporation that can use taxpayer funds and payoffs to purposely undermine privately held company ownership needs to have strict binders on them. To allow anyone to go in as corporate raider making tens of millions, as they raid and raze these companies into the abyss while cooking the books, sabotaging small businesses, and cheating the stockholders of those companies is a shame, and a disgrace on our political, and justice system. Their buddy system should have been halted years ago but instead the people who could have stopped it looked the other way and allowed it to continue.

is this an important issue?? It seems very very trivial- right? What is important is capitalism v socialism.

 

[ScienceRocks]

I don't hate them at all....In fact I love Amazon, Wall mart, Intel, Apple, Microsoft and telsa, etc. What I don't like is how they do everything in their power to cheat this country and their workers...It isn't right!

I like the services they provide but I do ask them to pay their taxes, treat their workers with respect and don't stab America in the back....

 

[Mr Natural]

$15/hour will cause McDonalds to buy robots not hire workers thus human workers will be able to afford less.!!

So in other words, the less the worker makes, the better off he is.

Interesting concept.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I don't hate them at all....In fact I love Amazon, Wall mart, Intel, Apple, Microsoft and telsa, etc. What I don't like is how they do everything in their power to cheat this country and their workers...It isn't right!
.

cheat??? if so why so afraid to present your best single example??

 

[ScienceRocks]

$15/hour will cause McDonalds to buy robots not hire workers thus human workers will be able to afford less.!!

So in other words, the less the worker makes, the better off he is.

Interesting concept.

The liberterians want the poor to be sweet shop workers for pennies...Evil is what they're....

 

[task0778]

Why Do Liberals Hate Corporate America? So why do liberals hate corporations, yet say nothing about the WEALTH of liberal professional athletes and liberal Hollywood elites?

For the same but opposite reason the right hates the poor.

This is one very stupid post. NOBODY on the right hates the poor and anyone who really believes that is an idiot. An ideological idiot.

the same, but opposite is true of the left; we don't hate corporations any more than the right hates on the poor.

The rhetoric from many on the Left indicates otherwise.

the left is for a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage so the poor can afford the things they need.

And you don't see the pushback from the $15 m-wage? As in more automation, fewer jobs or hours worked, reduced benefits. higher prices, companies/franchises going out of business?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The liberterians want the poor to be sweet shop workers for pennies..

silly liberal lie, if you have evidence of this i will pay you $10,000. Bet???

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

For the same but opposite reason the right hates the poor.

This is one very stupid post. NOBODY on the right hates the poor and anyone who really believes that is an idiot. An ideological idiot.

the same, but opposite is true of the left; we don't hate corporations any more than the right hates on the poor.

The rhetoric from many on the Left indicates otherwise.

the left is for a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage so the poor can afford the things they need.

And you don't see the pushback from that? As in more automation, fewer jobs or hours worked, reduced benefits?

pushback?? the liberal solution to war is peace. They don't have the brains to imagine the consequences of anything they propose. IF something makes sense to a child it will make sense to a liberal.

 

[Nosmo King]

Why Do Liberals Hate Corporate America?

Liberals seem to view corporations as some living being that makes money at the expense of other people.

A large company like, say, IBM, is comprised of, first and foremost, of a bunch of employees. Some of them make a lot of money and some make less, based on a free market determination of their value. The CEO makes more than the guy sweeping the halls at night. But, the guy who sweeps the floors is “profiting” from IBM’s success and would suffer by the failure many liberals would wish upon it (by losing his job). And, today, the floor sweeper is getting very generous benefits, including healthcare (benefits he will soon lose under Obamacare – more on that in my next blog entry).

IBM is owned by public shareholders, which are primarily large mutual funds, whose underlying shareholders (through IRAs, 401(k)’s, and pension funds, but often directly as well) are individuals, increasingly middle class individuals. So, when IBM does well and their stock price goes up, middle class shareholders do well.

So why do liberals hate corporations, yet say nothing about the WEALTH of liberal professional athletes and liberal Hollywood elites?

Because athletes and actors do not exploit employees the way corporations do. Athletes and actors don't outsource their jobs or seek to skirt environmental regulations. Your comparison between corporations and individuals betrays a Christian mplete misunderstanding of Capitalism and the division of labor.

Stay in the shallow end.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Because athletes and actors do not exploit employees the way corporations do. .

why would you say corporations exploit workers?? Are you a brainwashed Marxist or can you present your best example of this exploitation??

 

[Nosmo King]

Because athletes and actors do not exploit employees the way corporations do. .

why would you say corporations exploit workers?? Are you a brainwashed Marxist or can you present your best example of this exploitation??

Union busting, renegotiating contracts,with the loss of benefits, unsafe workplace conditions, you name it.

Why on earth do you imagine there are so many regulations and agencies to try to redress the balance?

Capitalism is all about profit. If that profit can come by exploiting workers or the environment or smaller competitors, you can believe there are folks there to do just that.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I hate Humanity!

I am fiscal Conservative and Social Liberal!

Why do you not understand the difference between a Progressive Trotsky and a True Blue Liberal?

Probably because people don't know the difference

I LOVE that you posted this meme because its actually the other way around.

Its the orange pussy grabber who is the gloBULList you idiot. And Hillary is the American. No, she's not the racist asshole he is but he's the one who refuses to have his tacky shit made in the USA.

You're just too damn dumb to know what "globalism" means.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Because athletes and actors do not exploit employees the way corporations do. .

why would you say corporations exploit workers?? Are you a brainwashed Marxist or can you present your best example of this exploitation??

Union busting, renegotiating contracts,with the loss of benefits, unsafe workplace conditions, you name it.

Why on earth do you imagine there are so many regulations and agencies to try to redress the balance?

Capitalism is all about profit. If that profit can come by exploiting workers or the environment or smaller competitors, you can believe there are folks there to do just that.

Yep.

And why is trump and the right working so hard to take basic rights away from American workers?

No one "hates" corporations and its a stupid thing to write. What the left hates is open thievery by the right.

RWs are celebrating trump's so-called tax breaks as though its a good thing. Its not. It benefits the ultra-wealthy (trump and his 1% crony capitalist buddies) and would cost the working class. And of course, it would cost jobs.

What's to celebrate about that?