Mr. Shaman
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- May 4, 2010
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Translation: "I'm a political hack - that's why"
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Translation: "I'm a political hack - that's why"
1. Obama has cut my taxes.
POLITIFACT: Barack Obama says taxes are lower for middle class today than when he took office
Second-lowest 20 percent
2008 tax burden: $1,715
2011 tax burden: $1,396
Decline of $319
2008 tax rate: 6.7 percent
2011 tax rate: 5.7 percent
Decline of 1 percentage point
Middle 20 percent
2008 tax burden: $6,290
2011 tax burden: $5,535
Decline of $775
2008 tax rate: 13.6 percent
2011 tax rate: 12.4 percent
Decline of 1.2 percentage points
Second-highest 20 percent
2008 tax burden: $13,749
2011 tax burden: $13,078
Decline of $671
2008 tax rate: 17.4 percent
2011 tax rate: 16.5 percent
Decline of 0.9 percentage points
So for each of the three middle quintiles, both the amount of tax paid and the effective tax rate paid declined.
Our ruling
Every taxpayer is different, and some "middle-class" Americans may have seen their tax rate or their tax burden go up for one reason or another. But Obama was talking about "the average middle-class family." The changes to the tax code made under Obama and the analyses by the Tax Policy Center show that for the middle 60 percent of the income distribution, both the average tax paid and the average tax rate fell between 2008 and 2011. We rate Obamas statement True.
And who fought to preserve those cuts?
You lost most of us when you started out with "Barack Obama says...."
Last week, virtually every Senate Republican voted against that tax cut. Now, I know many Republicans have sworn an oath never to raise taxes as long as they live. How could it be that the only time there's a catch is when it comes to raising taxes on middle-class families? How can you fight tooth and nail to protect high-end tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans, and yet barely lift a finger to prevent taxes going up for 160 million Americans who really need the help? It doesnt make sense.
Nice to know you're a bigot...
The wealth of a nation is determined by the productivity of its people. Investing in our nation, by providing good educations and job opportunities to our children, makes the US richer.
Wallowing in unemployment and slashing education, on the other hand, only makes us poorer.
Obama is on the hook for $450 Billion per year in interest run up by Bush and the Republicans.
Because the Hussein tripled the deficit?
Yep. Sure did.
By paying off Bush's credit card.
Because the Hussein tripled the deficit?
Yep. Sure did.
By paying off Bush's credit card.
Barack Obama:
President Obama is fighting to preserve middle-class tax cuts -
ObamaCare, btw, = much better than RepublicansDon'tCare (about anybody but themselves).
So why not keep us out of it.
I mean, after all, we'll just sit around let each other die and then you can have the country all to yourself.
Given the demographics of the Republican party, it won't be much longer.
On the other hand, people are living longer than ever... thanks to Medicare.
So let me see if I got this right... While fighting 2 wars, starting 2 more wars Obama cut taxes??? While spending a Trillion on stimulus Obama cut taxes?
Soooo... I thought most on the left bitched that Bush was stupid for cutting taxes during war time...
OOOOOOOOOOOOoooh, that's right... Obama is a Democrat.
That really is not all that hard to understand.
Basically it translates to the Democratic philosophy of letting someone else pay for their pleasures. In this case it is the Great Grand-chidren through Great Great Great Grandchildren after all, we will never know them nor have to suffer their problems. The problems he saddled them with.
Immie
Are these the same grandchildren who should be put to work cleaning toilets?
The same ones who shouldn't get health care? Or good schools? Or school lunches?
Republicans are funny when it comes to caring about the grandchildren.
Because the Hussein tripled the deficit?
Yep. Sure did.
By paying off Bush's credit card.
Notice how the chart shows only 7 Bush years? Why do you think that is?
Multiple Choice:
(a) because Bush was actually in office for 7 years. It just seemed like 8.
(b) because Bush got tired his last year in office, and let Obama do the last budget.
(c) because the chart misleadingly assigns Bush's last $1.3 trillion deficit to Obama.
Hint: The answer is not (a) or (b).
Yep. Sure did.
By paying off Bush's credit card.
Notice how the chart shows only 7 Bush years? Why do you think that is?
Multiple Choice:
(a) because Bush was actually in office for 7 years. It just seemed like 8.
(b) because Bush got tired his last year in office, and let Obama do the last budget.
(c) because the chart misleadingly assigns Bush's last $1.3 trillion deficit to Obama.
Hint: The answer is not (a) or (b).
Funny, Obama manages to BEAT Bush's biggest deficit and the best you can do is point to Bush and say he did it too?
Bush sucked. Everyone agrees on that point. What I can't figure out is that his predecessor does everything that Bush did and somehow he is a savior!?!?
Because your party forced them to fund 75 years of retirement in ten years.
The PO is fine but they are under a burden NO OTHER ENTITY in the world is asked to do.
Why does the right want the PO dead when the founders were willing to pay for it right in the constitution?
Notice how the chart shows only 7 Bush years? Why do you think that is?
Multiple Choice:
(a) because Bush was actually in office for 7 years. It just seemed like 8.
(b) because Bush got tired his last year in office, and let Obama do the last budget.
(c) because the chart misleadingly assigns Bush's last $1.3 trillion deficit to Obama.
Hint: The answer is not (a) or (b).
Funny, Obama manages to BEAT Bush's biggest deficit and the best you can do is point to Bush and say he did it too?
Bush sucked. Everyone agrees on that point. What I can't figure out is that his predecessor does everything that Bush did and somehow he is a savior!?!?
Who the hell is calling Obama a "savior"? I am so tired of hearing that from the Right. No one claims Obama is perfect.
Funny, Obama manages to BEAT Bush's biggest deficit and the best you can do is point to Bush and say he did it too?
Bush sucked. Everyone agrees on that point. What I can't figure out is that his predecessor does everything that Bush did and somehow he is a savior!?!?
Who the hell is calling Obama a "savior"? I am so tired of hearing that from the Right. No one claims Obama is perfect.
I did not mean to use it in that manner so ill rephrase:
What I can't figure out is that his predecessor does everything that Bush did and somehow he is a good president!?!?
1. Obama has cut my taxes.
POLITIFACT: Barack Obama says taxes are lower for middle class today than when he took office
And who fought to preserve those cuts?
You lost most of us when you started out with "Barack Obama says...."
Barack Obama:
President Obama is fighting to preserve middle-class tax cuts -
Last week, virtually every Senate Republican voted against that tax cut. Now, I know many Republicans have sworn an oath never to raise taxes as long as they live. How could it be that the only time there's a catch is when it comes to raising taxes on middle-class families? How can you fight tooth and nail to protect high-end tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans, and yet barely lift a finger to prevent taxes going up for 160 million Americans who really need the help? It doesnt make sense.
Because the Hussein tripled the deficit?
Yep. Sure did.
By paying off Bush's credit card.
Notice how the chart shows only 7 Bush years? Why do you think that is?
Multiple Choice:
(a) because Bush was actually in office for 7 years. It just seemed like 8.
(b) because Bush got tired his last year in office, and let Obama do the last budget.
(c) because the chart misleadingly assigns Bush's last $1.3 trillion deficit to Obama.
Hint: The answer is not (a) or (b).
At current performance, the USPS is failing in so many ways.Because your party forced them to fund 75 years of retirement in ten years.
The PO is fine but they are under a burden NO OTHER ENTITY in the world is asked to do.
Why does the right want the PO dead when the founders were willing to pay for it right in the constitution?
No stupid.....The economy is fixing the economy. Government is stifling the growth of the private sector.2. Obama is fixing the economy.
The United Postal Service is gonna lay off about 30 thousand people in March.