Why I Am A Liberal

[Harry Dresden]

I turned Left when the religious right hijacked the republican party.

yea i hear ya.....but when i turned left i ran into people like Dean and Chris....after a few minutes of what they had to say.........SEE YA!................

 

[LoneLaugher]

You people sure are impressed by Dean and Chris ( who's Chris? ). They are on your minds all the time, it seems.

 

[Avatar4321]

Whatever, nutters.

Just accept it.
You are afraid.........................Martin
You are easily led....................Rush
You are greedy........................Health Care
You are intolerant....................Gay marriage
You are bigoted.......................Muslims

It is who you are.

Must be nice to live in a world where you can just make things up and don't have to support anything you say?

How exactly is defending a man who has a presumption of innocence, in a fact pattern that supports that presumption, a sign of being afraid? How exactly is defending someone who evil men are putting a hit out on a sign of fear instead of courage? Ill defend with my life someone from being murdered by a mob. I'll defend with my life the rights of others to be presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. If you think that's at all cowardly, then you aren't in touch with reality?

How is Rush, a talk show host, evidence of being easily led? And why exactly do you think it's some inherently bad thing to follow a leader? You follow Obama don't you? Don't you think that's good? If not, why are you doing it?

Rush has the freedom to say what he did. He said something inappropriate. He apologized. He's human. If you think we should silence someone merely because they say something wrong or inappropriate, then you are severely misguided, because we don't have free speech to protect just the speech we like, but the speech that's controversial and that people might not like. Why are you so threatened by Rush?

You think telling people they have a right to forceably take money from others for their own health care is good, while those who think they should take care of themselves are greedy? I think you have it completely backwards.

It's intolerant to opposite gay marriage? I suppose that depends on your viewpoint. But it also relies on the assumption that being intolerant is always bad. I dont think that's necessarily true. Should we be tolerant of pedophilia? I don't particular thing so. But if we extend your current argument outward, you would say we should.

The argument really isn't who is intolerant and who isn't. The issue is where do we draw the line at what behavior we should tolerate and what behavior we shouldn't Because there is always going to be some behavior we don't tolerate unless you are a depraved sociopath. I won't tolerate murder, for example. I sincerely hope that you agree.

However, I don't even think gay marriage is an issue of tolerance. It's merely a question on whether we want to legally redefined a word that has existed for thousands years on a political whim. In the United States, individuals have always been able to enter into any contractual/covenant relationship they want, for whatever purposes they want. But the Government does not have to recognize those contractual relationships as legally binding, particular if there is no benefit to society to do so.

Personally, I dont think definitions to words are something we can vote on. Nor do I think unelected judges should be able to force policies on us.

Nor do I see what's bigotted about Muslims existing. They are free to worship as they choose. I wish the Islamic countries would give us the same courtesy. I don't see why you think we need to agree with everything they do to live in harmony with them.

 

[Avatar4321]

You people sure are impressed by Dean and Chris ( who's Chris? ). They are on your minds all the time, it seems.

People who have so thoroughly convinced themselves that their lies are reality despite how easily refutable they are are very interesting. What makes a person do something like that?

sometimes I think I should have been a psychologist. The human mind and behavior engage is just very interesting.

 

[LoneLaugher]

You people sure are impressed by Dean and Chris ( who's Chris? ). They are on your minds all the time, it seems.

People who have so thoroughly convinced themselves that their lies are reality despite how easily refutable they are are very interesting. What makes a person do something like that?

sometimes I think I should have been a psychologist. The human mind and behavior engage is just very interesting.

Avatar,

I hate to break this to you.....because I think you are a well meaning and generally kind person. But you are as dumb as a fucking post and commenting on the validity or sanity of things that most others here say is beyond your ability.

Yes......I realize that those words will seem arrogant to you. I apologize for that in advance. It just has to be said.

 

[Liability]

You people sure are impressed by Dean and Chris ( who's Chris? ). They are on your minds all the time, it seems.

People who have so thoroughly convinced themselves that their lies are reality despite how easily refutable they are are very interesting. What makes a person do something like that?

sometimes I think I should have been a psychologist. The human mind and behavior engage is just very interesting.

Avatar,

I hate to break this to you.....because I think you are a well meaning and generally kind person. But you are as dumb as a fucking post and commenting on the validity or sanity of things that most others here say is beyond your ability.

Yes......I realize that those words will seem arrogant to you. I apologize for that in advance. It just has to be said.

Not really. What you "said" is just the meaningless arrogant piffle of a dopey liberal douche bag.

That's you LonelyLaughable.

Now, that didn't have to be said, technically speaking.

But the truth is good for you. And if not, it was good for me to be able to share it with you.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Grab a hand full, Liability. And be patient......I'll give you some hugs and kisses when I have time.

 

[Harry Dresden]

You people sure are impressed by Dean and Chris ( who's Chris? ). They are on your minds all the time, it seems.

you think we are impressed by Dean and Chris?...........well we are....but not the way you think we are......

 

[Crackerjack]

LonelyLaughable is a liberal because, tragically, shortly after he was whelped, some evil gnome stuck a straw in his ear and sucked a bit more than half of the brains out of his head.

Still it was only about half a bite. Poor guy.

 

[Liability]

Grab a hand full, Liability. And be patient......I'll give you some hugs and kisses when I have time.

Spoken exactly lie the kind of "guy" you always seem to be.

-- image accurately depicts the essence of LonelyLaughable

 

[Crackerjack]

You people sure are impressed by Dean and Chris ( who's Chris? ). They are on your minds all the time, it seems.

People who have so thoroughly convinced themselves that their lies are reality despite how easily refutable they are are very interesting. What makes a person do something like that?

sometimes I think I should have been a psychologist. The human mind and behavior engage is just very interesting.

Avatar,

I hate to break this to you.....because I think you are a well meaning and generally kind person. But you are as dumb as a fucking post and commenting on the validity or sanity of things that most others here say is beyond your ability.

Yes......I realize that those words will seem arrogant to you. I apologize for that in advance. It just has to be said.

I don't agree with Av on a great many things, but he's no idiot. The idiot here is you. You haven't said anything of substance since I've been reading your drivel, and the simple-minded idiocy of your OP is about par for your putt-putt golf course. Hell, you're not even that good of a troll, and it shows by your getting pwnt right here on your own troll-bait thread.

Your best bet now is to pop smoke and disengage, as this is a thread that you're going to lose, and badly. Of course you're too stupid to do something to save yourself from further pwnage, but at least you can't say you weren't warned.

 

[Vidi]

However, I don't even think gay marriage is an issue of tolerance. It's merely a question on whether we want to legally redefined a word that has existed for thousands years on a political whim. In the United States, individuals have always been able to enter into any contractual/covenant relationship they want, for whatever purposes they want. But the Government does not have to recognize those contractual relationships as legally binding, particular if there is no benefit to society to do so.

Avatar,

While its certainly been the accepted form here in the United States, the definition of marriage as the union between ONE man and ONE woman is not the only definition over the last thousand years. You are forgeting polygamous marriages in multiple cultures and the same sex marriages of Nero emporer of Rome and evidence of same sex unions goes back to Mesopatamia and Ancient Egypt.

There does not need to be a benefit to society to protect the rights of the individual. Denying same sex couples the same rights and priviledges as opposite sex couples is unconstitutional.

 

[BluePhantom]

You might be a liberal if …
You think that if someone is getting richer, someone,
somewhere, must be getting poorer.

You think that protestors outside nuclear power plants are
dedicated activists, but protestors outside abortion
clinics are dangerous zealots interfering with a legal
activity.

You believe that more federal regulations will make your
life better.

You believe that even though the top 20 percent of
taxpayers pay 80 percent of income taxes, that the rich
are not paying their “fair share.”

You think that Rush Limbaugh’s listeners are
mindless “dittoheads,” but you have never doubted anything
that you heard from Michael Moore.

You believe in global warming today just as firmly as you
believed in global cooling back in the 1970s.

You believe that the network news is a better indicator of
what “real” news is than talk radio, Internet news sites,
and blogs.

You believe that there was never, ever a problem with
biased news coverage until Fox News went on the air.

You believe that Mikhail Gorbachev deserves more credit
for losing the Cold War than Ronald Reagan deserves for
winning it.

Your parents gave you an acre of preserved rain forest for
your first birthday.

You cannot name a single NASCAR driver.

You mentally subtract 100 points from someone’s IQ if the
person speaks with a Southern accent.

You think that Dan Rather got a raw deal.

You panic if you discover that you’re out of chick peas.

You think that the phrase “separation of church and state”
is in the Constitution.

You pride yourself on your global awareness, global
sensitivity and global outlook, but can’t name your state
legislator or school board representative.

You are dedicated to helping the poor, the downtrodden and
the less fortunate, but you have never given blood.

You have not seen "The Passion of the Christ," and you
don’t know anyone who has seen it.

You believe that a woman should make it on her own,
without depending on her husband (except for Hillary
Clinton).

You believe that professional, working women should never
be judged on their appearance (except for Katherine
Harris).

You believe that rich people should not be allowed to
contribute so much money to candidates for office (except
for George Soros).

You believe that government should make a special effort
to hire members of traditionally oppressed groups, such as
African-Americans (except for Clarence Thomas, Colin
Powell and Condoleezza Rice).

You feel a deep sense of common cause with oppressed
groups, such as Hispanic immigrants (except for Cuban
Americans fleeing Castro).

You believe that a mother’s wishes for her child,
especially a mother’s last, dying wish for her child,
should outweigh the wishes of a father who had long before
deserted his family (unless the child is named Elian
Gonzalez).

You think people in south Florida, who can’t figure out
how to work a butterfly ballot, ought to have the final
say in choosing the president of the United States.

You have no problem with Hollywood movie starts flying
around in private jets to give speeches on the evils of
SUVs.

You think that raising taxes will reduce the budget
deficit.

You deplore prejudice and bigotry in all its forms, but
think that everyone in the “red states” is an idiot.

You are more concerned, more often, with the rights of
convicted felons than you are with the rights of small
business owners.

You uphold a woman’s right to choose, unless a woman
chooses adoption, chooses to be a stay-at-home mom,
chooses to homeschool, or chooses to start a business.

You are more concerned with Vice President Cheney’s links
to Halliburton than with Saddam Hussein’s links to
international terrorism.

You have used the phrase, “in Europe, the government pays
for health care and vacation,” without irony.

You are worried about how the French view Americans.

You believe that nativity scenes should be banned from
public view, but that anyone objecting to
pornography “only has to look the other way.”

And finally, you are almost certainly a liberal if you
refuse to admit that you’re a liberal, and accuse anyone
of calling you a liberal of McCarthyism.

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN, UpandAbout. Leave the poor liberals with some dignity at least. Wow! What a crushing.

 

[BluePhantom]

You people sure are impressed by Dean and Chris ( who's Chris? ). They are on your minds all the time, it seems.

People who have so thoroughly convinced themselves that their lies are reality despite how easily refutable they are are very interesting. What makes a person do something like that?

sometimes I think I should have been a psychologist. The human mind and behavior engage is just very interesting.

Avatar,

I hate to break this to you.....because I think you are a well meaning and generally kind person. But you are as dumb as a fucking post and commenting on the validity or sanity of things that most others here say is beyond your ability.

Yes......I realize that those words will seem arrogant to you. I apologize for that in advance. It just has to be said.

Mr. Pot...I would like to introduce you to Mr. Kettle.....

 

[LoneLaugher]

People who have so thoroughly convinced themselves that their lies are reality despite how easily refutable they are are very interesting. What makes a person do something like that?

sometimes I think I should have been a psychologist. The human mind and behavior engage is just very interesting.

Avatar,

I hate to break this to you.....because I think you are a well meaning and generally kind person. But you are as dumb as a fucking post and commenting on the validity or sanity of things that most others here say is beyond your ability.

Yes......I realize that those words will seem arrogant to you. I apologize for that in advance. It just has to be said.

I don't agree with Av on a great many things, but he's no idiot. The idiot here is you. You haven't said anything of substance since I've been reading your drivel, and the simple-minded idiocy of your OP is about par for your putt-putt golf course. Hell, you're not even that good of a troll, and it shows by your getting pwnt right here on your own troll-bait thread.

Your best bet now is to pop smoke and disengage, as this is a thread that you're going to lose, and badly. Of course you're too stupid to do something to save yourself from further pwnage, but at least you can't say you weren't warned.

Yeah. Nothing at all of substance. Well said.

I'll await your brilliance. When does it start?

 

[Crackerjack]

Avatar,

I hate to break this to you.....because I think you are a well meaning and generally kind person. But you are as dumb as a fucking post and commenting on the validity or sanity of things that most others here say is beyond your ability.

Yes......I realize that those words will seem arrogant to you. I apologize for that in advance. It just has to be said.

I don't agree with Av on a great many things, but he's no idiot. The idiot here is you. You haven't said anything of substance since I've been reading your drivel, and the simple-minded idiocy of your OP is about par for your putt-putt golf course. Hell, you're not even that good of a troll, and it shows by your getting pwnt right here on your own troll-bait thread.

Your best bet now is to pop smoke and disengage, as this is a thread that you're going to lose, and badly. Of course you're too stupid to do something to save yourself from further pwnage, but at least you can't say you weren't warned.

Yeah. Nothing at all of substance. Well said.

I'll await your brilliance. When does it start?

I shit more substance in one dump than you've ever posted to this website. Hell, have you even posted a link to substantiate your dumb-ass claims before? I seriously doubt it.

Here's a hint, numbnuts: "Liberals = good, conservatives = bad" isn't substance, even if that represents the limit of your critical thinking skills.

 

[BluePhantom]

I'll await your brilliance. When does it start?

Thus far you haven't exactly set the bar very high LL. I mean usually before someone is required to provide an insightful or thought provoking argument they first establish one themselves. All we have seen from you is typical propaganda bullshit. Why this isn't listed in the Flame Zone or the Rubber Room is beyond me as you have provided nothing of substance.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

However, I don't even think gay marriage is an issue of tolerance.

It’s not an issue at all, since there’s no such thing as ‘gay marriage,’ nor does anyone wish to contrive such a thing.

It's merely a question on whether we want to legally redefined a word that has existed for thousands years on a political whim.

The 14th Amendment is hardly a ‘political whim.’ It admonishes the states to allow all citizens equal access to the law, including marriage law.

In the United States, individuals have always been able to enter into any contractual/covenant relationship they want, for whatever purposes they want.

Except for marriage, hence the Constitutional violation.

But the Government does not have to recognize those contractual relationships as legally binding, particular if there is no benefit to society to do so.

The government may only disallow a particular class of persons access to a given law if the government can provide a compelling reason to do so and provide evidence in support. Such a rationale and evidence do not exist with regard to excluding same-sex couples access to marriage laws.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I'll await your brilliance. When does it start?

Thus far you haven't exactly set the bar very high LL. I mean usually before someone is required to provide an insightful or thought provoking argument they first establish one themselves. All we have seen from you is typical propaganda bullshit. Why this isn't listed in the Flame Zone or the Rubber Room is beyond me as you have provided nothing of substance.

I think you are talking out of your ass. Check the archives, bitch.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

There has been quite a bit of discussion here lately about what defines a liberal. I thought I'd use recent events to construct a SIMPLE chart that illustrates the differences between liberals and nutters. Forgive me if this chart has formatting issues. I'm not sure how it will display. There are many more............here are just a few.


Liberal / Nutter

Knee-jerk response is to defend: Martin / Zimmerman

Feels sorry for: Fluke / Limbaugh

Thinks medical care is: A right / A privilege

Thinks 2 people who love each other need: Just love / Only 1 penis.

It would be great if the world had: Religious freedom / One religion

Because you're not very bright.