why does the right unquestionably trust big business?

[bripat9643]

It says "We the People" in the document which forms the basis for our government.

That sure is a sick joke, isn't it?

 

[editec]

Is this a teat for tat trolling event?

I suspect it is.

 

[California Girl]

Why does MarcATL consistently bullshit?

 

[PeteEU]

hmmmm....?

Well....?

Personally I think it comes from a very ancient desire in human kind to have a master and trust and serve said master.

Before big business it was kings and queens and warlords or nobles.. always someone higher on the food chain. And since the right is basing their political ideology on maintaining some sort of status quo, then it is only natural that they want to maintain the master and slave analogy as well. And big business like it or not, is today's nobles, warlords and kings/queens, since they have most of the wealth.

The opposite goes for the left, who were born out of rebellion against the very right wing masters back in the day. That they some times fall back into old habits of a single master only stems from human nature going back to the dawn of time and the same instinct that the right has, but it does not change the fact on how the left wing of politics was formed in the early part of the 1900s.

Like it or not worshipping and sub-missing to a person or small group of people is how society was run up till the beginning of the 1900s.. it is only during the last 80ish years that democracy for all has come about and the right wing parties have had a very hard time in most societies to conform to this new reality. Even now they struggle in many countries, and in some the more traditionalist right wing parties have been all but destroyed and replaced with either more left leaning right wing parties or extremely right wing specialist (usually racist) parties.

 

[Ravi]

hmmmm....?

Well....?

They have to trust their masters in order to live with themselves. They are part of a machine.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Another non sequitur by the Left to deny their crony capitalist tendencies

Papa Obama cuts secret deals with Big Pharma
No doubt there was a lot of trust there

 

[jillian]

Another non sequitur by the Left to deny their crony capitalist tendencies

Papa Obama cuts secret deals with Big Pharma
No doubt there was a lot of trust there

all people in power engage in crony capitalism.

ask newt; ask tom de-lay...

now run along.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Even before in power

Goldman Sachs $1,013,091
Harvard University $878,164
Microsoft Corp $852,167
Google Inc $814,540
JPMorgan Chase & Co $808,799
Citigroup Inc $736,771
Time Warner $624,618



Goldman Sachs was top Obama donor in 2008 election cycle

Back to the hopper for you, fool

 

[Jackson]

Another non sequitur by the Left to deny their crony capitalist tendencies

Papa Obama cuts secret deals with Big Pharma
No doubt there was a lot of trust there

all people in power engage in crony capitalism.

ask newt; ask tom de-lay...

now run along.

If that is your opinion, that makes it alright? It seems that is a pretty low standard, then. And it is important that we are talking about decades ago when you are attempting to give Obama a pass.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Another non sequitur by the Left to deny their crony capitalist tendencies

Papa Obama cuts secret deals with Big Pharma
No doubt there was a lot of trust there

all people in power engage in crony capitalism.

ask newt; ask tom de-lay...

now run along.

If that is your opinion, that makes it alright? It seems that is a pretty low standard, then. And it is important that we are talking about decades ago when you are attempting to give Obama a pass.

Sadly, our system is a crony capitalist system and both parties are guilty of promoting it

The Left template requires them to deny this reality
It makes them feel better as they take money from them and get rich at the same time

Pelosi's wealth grows by 62 percent

 

[mskafka]

So you think that sitting on your couch in front of the television instead of being out doing something relevant is the way to live?

My couch and TV were bought because I get a paycheck for doing something relevent you dumbass.

What is it you do that is relevant?

In the world 50 years ago a far greater proportion of the population was paid by customers, not employers, and a far greater portion of employees worked in small and medium businesses where they were treated like family instead of cattle. And many of those remaining who worked for big business had unions to ensure they were treated more like family and less like cattle.

And I take that pay in exchange for my 40 hours of work, and go buy shit so I can sit in front of my TV and enjoy it.

See how that works?

Wow. So your entire life purpose is to do what your boss says so that you can sit in front of a television. That's PERFECT!!!!

Sure beats pissing in a tent in a park demanding someone else pay for my stuff doesnt it?

I guess those are the only two choices in life - pissing in a tent in a park, or working all week just so you can watch television. If that's the case, I think I'll just kill myself.

 

[AVG-JOE]

We simply trust our neighbors doing business more than the government. We aren't hurt if people make money. We are hurt if our liberties are taken away by power hungry politicians.

It's a matter of whether you trust the people or not.

Trust the people. Isn't 'the people' where the buck stops in government?

There is nothing wrong with 'big' business per se - some endeavors require a large company of humans working in a managed fashion toward a common goal to be productive. The problem with big business is that the economy of scale allows for massive corruption when corruption is allowed, and our political system is corrupt.

The answer is less complex rules for ALL business to operate under and utter transparency in political activity.

You want environmental regulation? Make the humans making the decisions while hiding behind corporate paper personally responsible if their company shits in the ocean or poisons a town.

 

[candycorn]

We dont.

But....we know that most of us work for them. And without them, most of us would be unemployed. And we'd like to keep them HERE, instead of overseas. Especially if you lefties continue to demand the mass importation of foreign workers.

And we know crippling business would cripple jobs. And taking money from them, to give to the government, will not do anything but create a gov't middle man between corporate money and individual workers.

But dont worry....I dont expect much comprehension of that common sense answer from you. So my standard expectations for your response aren't that high.

Because if big business went away - all fields would lay fallow. We'd just sit around and do nothing.

No. We'd all do something to survive. And eventually, start up some sort of trading market. You know, butchers, farmers, blacksmiths, all trading their products and skills. Then....some would unite and form a "union" to share resources and services to become more efficient. Hell, maybe even give it a name, like "Bob and Johns Meat Mart". And "Jill's Veggie Shop". And to become even more efficient, maybe Bob, John and Jill join up with Rick the fisherman and Craig the armorer, and put all their services into a big building to be even more efficient, and call it "One Stop Shop".

If "One Stop Shop" went over welll with the locals, as a more efficient and reliable source of goods, then who knows, mabye go 100 miles east, share that model, and offer to help Anytown USA form the 2nd "One Stop Shop" for their town.

Wow. That sounds EVIL doesnt it? Next thing you know, PEOPLE all over the country will have formed their own buildings that specialize in something and we'd all be SLAVES to getting our goods and services from those people in buildings. Kinda like.........corporations, right?


Get a fucking job you loser hippies.

Sounds like you work for Wal Mart. Oh my goodness.

 

[occupied]

A better question would be is why are some people reflexively closing ranks around the banking/financial industry? They have become a clear threat to our economic well being, they openly buy our politicians of both parties, they control our economic policy for their benefit alone. I think it is Stockholm syndrome, we have been at their mercy for so long that some of the hostages are starting to identify with them.

 

[Skull Pilot]

When you're dealing with a businessman, you know exactly where he stands. His goal is to improve his position and make a profit.

Since you know this you can deal with a businessman and come to a workable arrangement or not.

When dealing with a politician (government), he'll tell you what he thinks you want to hear so he can improve his own position while trying to convince you that he is improving yours.

See the difference?

 

[AVG-JOE]

I get my paycheck from big business. Thanks to my manager for hiring. The job kinda sucks. Thats why they gotta pay me to show up. But they pay me. Otherwise, I'd be sleeping in a tent in some shitty park taking a crap on cop cars and listening to a pony tailed hippy dude go on and on about how good communism.

Instead, I just watched the Jets vs Broncos in high def, and live a nice life. Because I work for a company. Novel concept.

If that company asked you to do something you know was wrong, would you do it?

The problem with big business is the ability to pay for permission to develop resources from a federal government thousands of miles away without even having to ask the people who live where those resources will be developed. Complicating the relationship is the ability of decision makers to hide behind corporate paper when they put profits and short term thinking ahead of their responsibility to the community at large

Transparency, personal accountability, responsibility.

I'll believe that republicans are all about personal responsibility when corporate paper fails to protect the makers of stupid and shortsighted corporate decisions.

 

[mal]

hmmmm....?

Well....?

Idiot.



peace...

 

[mskafka]

all people in power engage in crony capitalism.

ask newt; ask tom de-lay...

now run along.

If that is your opinion, that makes it alright? It seems that is a pretty low standard, then. And it is important that we are talking about decades ago when you are attempting to give Obama a pass.

Sadly, our system is a crony capitalist system and both parties are guilty of promoting it

The Left template requires them to deny this reality
It makes them feel better as they take money from them and get rich at the same time

Pelosi's wealth grows by 62 percent

You're right that certain people of both parties are promoting it. I, like others, am a bit aggravated at the insider trading. How fortunate it must be to know from the Fed(LONG before it goes public) that the economy is about to tank.

You're disgusted with both parties; and you should be. Pelosi's not the only one who used her information to mark the cards. Spencer Bachus is a pretty disgusting POS. Just from reading the article, it sounds like this mofo bought a crap ton of put options after his meetings with the fed-when he found out that the economy was going to crash. It's good thinking, and I would be tempted to do the same thing, in that position.

Seriously...that's like going to a casino and placing all of your life savings on the pass line, and the dice are loaded to roll seven every time. No wonder so many of the want to become career politicians. Hopefully we'll see the passage of the law that forbids these people to do this any longer. And with any luck, when they continue to do it after the law passes, (and we know that they WILL continue) maybe then it can be used against them to kick their useless asses out on the street. They were elected to serve the people; not to pad their pockets. If they want to go into trading, then let's open the door for them to do it. And then they can play by the rules like the rest of us who invest.

 

[NoNukes]

My couch and TV were bought because I get a paycheck for doing something relevent you dumbass.

See, in THIS world, you WORK for stuff. You get paid to show up to do a task you wouldnt show up to do UNLESS you got paid for it. Thats how it works. And I take that pay in exchange for my 40 hours of work, and go buy shit so I can sit in front of my TV and enjoy it.

See how that works?

Sure beats pissing in a tent in a park demanding someone else pay for my stuff doesnt it?

Your life sounds pretty boring and pathetic. And you call me a dumb ass.

Its anything but. But I'm not a resume spoutter. I work for mine. And enjoy it. Get a fucking job loser.

I have two careers and I am busy raising two children. Your insult only makes you look stupid and without a clue as to what you should say.

 

[NoNukes]

No. We'd all do something to survive. And eventually, start up some sort of trading market. You know, butchers, farmers, blacksmiths, all trading their products and skills. Then....some would unite and form a "union" to share resources and services to become more efficient. Hell, maybe even give it a name, like "Bob and Johns Meat Mart". And "Jill's Veggie Shop". And to become even more efficient, maybe Bob, John and Jill join up with Rick the fisherman and Craig the armorer, and put all their services into a big building to be even more efficient, and call it "One Stop Shop".

If "One Stop Shop" went over welll with the locals, as a more efficient and reliable source of goods, then who knows, mabye go 100 miles east, share that model, and offer to help Anytown USA form the 2nd "One Stop Shop" for their town.

Wow. That sounds EVIL doesnt it? Next thing you know, PEOPLE all over the country will have formed their own buildings that specialize in something and we'd all be SLAVES to getting our goods and services from those people in buildings. Kinda like.........corporations, right?


Get a fucking job you loser hippies.

This would happen because of greedy, selfish Conservatives.

Warren Buffett, Ted Turner, Jeff Immelt are all greedy selfish Cons??? Because they did just that. The Whole Foods CEO, a liberal, did just that.

Get a job you loser.

Yes, these guys can be as bad as conservatives because money is involved.