What the hell are you talking about!!?? There are angels of death from God that attack humans....."Dear Hollie: Did it ever occur to you that this energy, the powers of divine forces at work might have "taken on" human attributes in order to communicate with people?"An invisible, undetectable, unknown and completely and perfectly uninvolved entity is synonymous with "Nothingness". So why give this nothingness human attributes?
Dear Hollie: Did it ever occur to you that this energy, the powers of divine forces at work
might have "taken on" human attributes in order to communicate with people?
Sort of like how ideas or conflicts we are trying to work out,
might take on symbolism in our dreams at night, to express what the problems are,
so we can figure it out. We didn't choose what we dream, but we receive these dreams
and we interpret them to get meaning or insights from them. They came to us in those forms, those symbols.
The people I know that have received divine visions or even visitations
DID NOT CHOOSE THESE
These visions came to them in that format.
I see it as future events that give off such strong energy and impact,
that they transcend time and space, and people can see them like receiving energy signals in advance.
But they aren't always literal (one of my friends does get more literal visions
but these are rare, where the picture in her head matches exactly; most people
it is like dreams and only loosely symbolic and so it requires interpretation and is not literal)
Whether people personify God or Jesus or Angels in human form,
the idea is the same:
Angels are like positive prayers or energy to influence people in a better direction, to lift them up to higher aspirations.
God can be experienced as Love, truth, wisdom, divine understanding or feeling a divine purpose gift or blessing in life.
Jesus can be either Salvation or Justice, some higher sense of connections by conscience to all humanity universally.
These realms of experience, of feeling collective oneness or wholeness with all of humanity,
can be so overwhelming, they come in visions with symbols that people can contain.
Otherwise the feeling and energy is beyond what most people can express.
Yes, that has occurred to me.
Has it occurred to you that the powers of divine forces may have taken on human attributes and are communicating with people through the likes of Charles Manson, Jim Jones, Ted Kaczynski, etc.?
Why should that be surprising? Read the OT for an object lesson in the evil that gawds perform.
If anything on earth convinced me that the Judeo-Christian gawds had nothing at all to do with the Bibles, it was reading the Bibles themselves. It is interesting mythology, and it has the greatest, most evil villain of all time in it. His name is Jehovah.
Hi Hollie
YES: this is part of what spiritual knowledge is about.
Knowing the difference between the realms of angels and demons:
the voices of the DEMONIC are different from the voices of God
because one promotes ILL WILL and RETRIBUTION while the other
seeks FORGIVENESS and PEACE by restoring justice for ALL people through HEALING.
That's how you tell the difference: it is Good will or Ill will?
is it a message of Forgiveness and HEALING/Inclusion
or Unforgiveness and Retribution and Rejection?
Very important, thanks for pointing this out there is a HUGE problem
if people teach or abuse God to be DEMONIC and reject out of ill will and retribution.
That is Antichrist not Christ, and you are RIGHT to point out something in religion is
getting abused. However, the way to overcome the Antichrist abuses
is to correct them in the spirit and authority of Christ which trumps the evil abuses.
David Berkowitz was one who learned later the difference
between the voices of demons and the way to get rid of these by authority in Christ.
For Andrea Yates it was also too late, and she didn't get help for her schizophrenic voices
until after she killed her five children trying to get these voices to stop.
Coral Eugene Watts is another one possessed by demon voices that drove him to kill women.
Many others are just as dangerous, even parents who kill their children thinking they are demons.
Hollie, the teachings and practice of spiritual healing
ADDRESS these demonic sicknesses and
have CURED people of SCHIZOPHRENIA and demonic obsessions/voices.
This is why it is a matter of life and death, and stopping criminally sick people,
to research and establish this method of DIAGNOSING and CURING people
BEFORE they kill or harm anyone!
It is like a disease and there is a way to intervene early, like cancer, to prevent it from becoming fatal.
it can be stopped, just like any other disease
that have CAUSES and CURES.
Hollie this is WHY the research and medical studies need to be done.
to SAVE LIVES from people who are sick and won't get help, until after it's too late!
See resources I have listed on a webpage as references freespiritualhealing Resources for Healing and Forgiveness Therapy
* Dr. Scott Peck "Glimpses of the Devil" where two schizophrenic patients with demonic personalities/obsessions
were cured (one patient recovered in time, where she could go back to school and study science because she was inspired by how Dr. Peck used the scientific method to uncover the root cause of her sickness and apply the cure, when the psychiatric profession only knew about medications and had never tried this exorcism method that saved her life;
the other patient was cured mentally but died of physical complications from years of abusing her body all her adult life.)
* Dr. Francis MacNutt "Healing" Christian Healing Ministries - Christian Healing Ministries
He explains the DIFFERENCE between the positive spiritual healing prayers and the
NEGATIVE occult and witchcraft / dark forces that clash and cause sickness and death because
these demonic energy LIVE OFF the fear and anger and rebellion of unforgiveness which is cured by forgiveness.
David Berkowitz has posted his testimony, about before and after he was freed from occult influences that had made him so sick that he killed people to relieve the impulses he couldn't control: David Berkowitz s former Son of Sam Testimony Translations
* Dr. Phillip Goldfedder Healing Is Yours
Dr. Goldfedder is Jewish and didn't understand Christianity was real until someone showed him how spiritual healing worked naturally with science and medicine. It changed his neurosurgery practice.
He is still Jewish, but add the knowledge of Christ and spiritual healing to what he does and teaches.
So now he counsels and heals more people effectively and permanently using spiritual healing
than he was able to using surgery.
Hollie this is IMPORTANT:
This Christian Spiritual Healing is the ONLY cure I have seen work
to help people with Criminal DEMONIC and SATANIC sickness.
For you to blame the demonic sick voices on the people who seek to cure them
is like blaming cancer on the doctors for pointing out cancer exists, what causes it and how to cure it.
The doctors are not the cause of cancer.
You remind me of the African people who were telling their neighbors
to run away from the doctors trying to isolate them from Ebola and treat them.
They thought the weird people in safety suits were kidnapping and injecting people with the disease,
when it was the OPPOSITE.
They meant well, and thought they were saving their family from kidnappers.
But this caused more harm by preventing people from getting the cure, and more people died by running away.
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Hollie it is IMPORTANT to separate the natural/true and the unnatural/false practices:
A. spiritual healing based on forgiveness and curing the cause of sickness, addiction, abuse even mental and criminal ills
is the NATURAL HEALING practice that is beneficial and causes no harm or risk to any person because it works with science and medicine and doesn't deny any assistance but uses ALL available resources to treat people normally and fully
B. False faith healing adds conditions and expects change by citing or imitating religious rituals
and this has led to parents cutting up their kids or killing people using force or rituals to hurt people
this is FALSE malpractice and dangerous and criminal and is NOT what I mean or Christians mean by spiritual healing
Even the fraudulent "conversion therapy" that has tortured and damaged people falls under faith faith healing
You can tell the difference because it has nothing to do with forgiveness and healing, but is conditions imposed from outside
C. Occult Voodoo Witchcraft Sorcery Black Magic Dark forces demonism spiritism
etc. fall under ill will and manipulation that CLASHES with spiritual healing.
This is even more dangerous because it can spread like mob behavior that
causes the tribal genocidal attacks and brutality in Africa with Voodoo and other occult practices, and along the border of Mexico with Satanic cults and beheadings/sacrifices.
Clearly B and C are NOT the spiritual healing in A.
But what people don't know is that the spiritual healing in A
can CURE the mental and criminal sickness in cases of B and C.
So we cannot afford to reject A but must research and develop
medically sound methods of diagnosis and cure or we can't help the legal system
stop the madness of killers who are sick or brainwashed in B or C situations.
That's why we need science to prove the methods in A.
We need to stop the sickness and crimes/killings that happen with B and C going unchecked.
Thanks, Hollie
thank you for bring this up which is KEY to solving these problems.
Mental and criminal illness has a cause and cure just like cancer
not all cases can be cured, but if we intervene early there is a better chance of stopping
the sickness or at least containing it so it doesn't cause worse harm.