Why do you think LBJ was a terrible president?

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    I see so many polls and so many people saying that LBJ was a terrible president, but I've never understood why. Was there anything else besides the mis-handling of the Vietnam War that made LBJ one of the worst presidents in history?

    Didn't LBJ sign into law the Civil Rights Act?
     
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    Increasing spending domestically dramatically while fighting a war against communism. Focusing the war on Vietnam, while the USSR was overwhelming us there and on other fronts. His programs literally lead to the problems of welfare moms and single moms that we face today, all in the name of compassion. Talk about unintended consequences. Yet, Daniel Patrick Moynihan warned about those consequences, onto deaf ear.
     
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    well, I'd say the gulf of Tonkin was a significant reason
     
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    He lied about Vietnam, which was inexcusable.

    Other than that, he would have gone down in history as possibly the 20th centuries greatest presidents, on a par with FDR. There so much he did in 5 short years that we take for granted today. Civil rights, consumer protections, medicare, medicaid, environmental laws. That shit pretty much all started with LBJ.
     
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    which 'party' made that civil rights program pass? Hmmm? Hint, wasn't LBJ's party...
     
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    LBJ did more for civil rights than ANY OTHER President in this nation's history.

    That is oversahdowed by his mishandling of Vietnam. He tried to win a political war with limited military force and failed.
     
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    He is one of my favorite presidents. He did good work and didn't go for glory.
     
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    But, your conservative heroes, Reagan and Goldwater opposed the 1964 civil rights bill.

    It was a northern versus southern thing. Norther republicans and democrats voted for it, southern democrats and southern republicans voted against it.

    History gives LBJ props for providing the leadership on it, even if you don't.

    Civil rights wasn't the only thing LBJ accomplished in 5 short years. Pretty much most things you take for granted today, from consumer protections, the healthcare for seniors and poor people, to modern environmental laws all trace their roots to LBJ.

    Why do you think your conservative icons Reagan and Goldwater oppossed the 64 civil rights bill? I'd love to hear you spin it.
     
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    It's not one of the most important things, but Lady Bird Johnson did a lot with her Don't Be A Litterbug campaign. I wish someone would resurrect it.
     
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    I didn't know that.

    Nixon was good on the environment too.
     

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