Why do people hate Liberals?

[Mr.Nick]

The only difference is Hitler murdered 8,000,000 and Stalin murdered 50,000,000...

 

[Mr.Nick]

Are any progressives interested in a debate over Mao's Five Year Plan?

???

 

[Saigon]

For the fifth time on this board - the only difference between Stalin and Hitler were THEIR FUCKING MUSTACHE....

I would love for all you intelligent motherfuckers to cite examples where they were somehow different... Oh yeah that is right only pop culture and academics attempt to differentiate the two...

This is very much my point, Nick - Hitler and Stalin had a HUGE amount in common, despite being polar opposites in terms of political theories.

If you look at the political horseshoe, you can see that Hitler and Stalin are close together than either are to the centre.

 

[MeBelle]

Everyone needs to take a peek at where Saigon says s/he lives.

USA posters should then understand Saigon's question better.

I live in Finland.

Where we have 10 major political parties, 8 in parliament, and 4 in government.

Your point being....?

...that in Finland, the top three parties are described as socialist, liberal conservative and liberal, in that order.


And as far as "hate" is concerned, I personally 'hate' no one.
Using 'hate' is a flame word used as an attempt to get a response. Idiot, stupid and retard fall into the flame word category.
I teach my children that we can converse without upping the rhetoric.
Adults should attempt what my children already know.

 

[Saigon]

The only difference is Hitler murdered 8,000,000 and Stalin murdered 50,000,000...

You might want to check those figures - Hitler is responsible for AT LEAST 20 million deaths.

There were more than 11.5 million murdered in the Holocaust alone.

 

[Billo_Really]

Well for starters, they call republicans racist if they disagree with obama.

That's not true. We call certain people racists who:

• criticize the President less than 10 days after his inaugaration before he's even had a chance to do anything to be criticized for.
• make up baseless accusations just to criticize him.
• hold up racist signs at pep rallys.
• say that we need to bring back Jim Crow laws like Tom Tancredo said at a town hall.
• people who say he has a "deep seated hatred for white people".
• people who claim "he's not one of us"; "he's a muslim"; "he's not from here"; "he pals around with terrorists"'
• people who sing songs like "Barack the magic negro"

And people who simply refuse to respect the Office of the Presidency, no matter what he does.

Those are the people we call racist.

 

[Saigon]

...that in Finland, the top three parties are described as socialist, liberal conservative and liberal, in that order.

No they aren't.

Parties ranked by % of the popular vote are:

Kokoomus (Urban Conservative)

Social Democrat (Centre left)

True Finns (Extreme Right/Populist)

Centre Party (Rural Conservative)

Left Alliance (Socialist)

Greens (Left)

Swedish Speakers (Centre)

Christians (Right)

Finnish parliamentary election, 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Billo_Really]

There is absolutely no subject you know more about than I do....

Anything from theoretical physics to grammar - you're an idiot compared to me....

Okay, let's put that to the test. It's your time to put up, or shut up.

Answer the following question, Mr. Wizard:

You have a 480/277V, 3PH, 4W, 1600A main switchboard.

Do you need GFI?

 

[Mr.Nick]

There is absolutely no subject you know more about than I do....

Anything from theoretical physics to grammar - you're an idiot compared to me....

Okay, let's put that to the test. It's your time to put up, or shut up.

Answer the following question, Mr. Wizard:

You have a 480/277V, 3PH, 4W, 1600A main switchboard.

Do you need GFI?

That is a trick question ac/dc??

Yes you would need a ground..

 

[zonly1]

before you start dodging out of town maybe you can dispute my claim that socialism and liberalism are one of the same.

fuck your prior comments....answer mine and I'm sure as hell not going to look ur at aprior post.

Your answer is in post #63.

It's up to you whether you look at it, but personally I think the idea of the political horseshoe is the basis for understanding all modern politics (without spending 4 years at university, anyway!).

Well since you won't link your explanation I'll say #63 is bullshite based on the fact you can't understand socialism =liberalism. So you either can prove it or you can't and no I'm not looking back at your post.

 

[Billo_Really]

That is a trick question ac/dc??

Yes you would need a ground..

All wye systems are grounded, but you were pretty close so we'll give it to ya.

The actual answer is "ground fault protection".

The code reads:
Anytime you have a service over 1200 amps and over 150 volts to ground, you need GFI.

Sorry, I couldn't resist throwing in a little shop talk. I've been an electrical engineer for the last 30 years.

 

[Mr.Nick]

Red (heat) green (not heat) black (ground)...

 

[Mr.Nick]

That is a trick question ac/dc??

Yes you would need a ground..

All wye systems are grounded, but you were pretty close so we'll give it to ya.

The actual answer is "ground fault protection".

The code reads:
Anytime you have a service over 1200 amps and over 150 volts to ground, you need GFI.

Sorry, I couldn't resist throwing in a little shop talk. I've been an electrical engineer for the last 30 years.

I suppose experience in the AV industry helps...

 

[Billo_Really]

Red (heat) green (not heat) black (ground)...

Are you referring to the color coding of conductors? Because they vary. As an example, with AC systems, black is (hot); with DC systems, black is (common), which is a way saying it's the neutral, grounded conductor.

Green is always your equipment ground.

 

[Billo_Really]

I suppose experience in the AV industry helps...

Audio/Visual?

 

[Saigon]

Well since you won't link your explanation .

Horseshoe theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Mr.Nick]

Red (heat) green (not heat) black (ground)...

Are you referring to the color coding of conductors? Because they vary. As an example, with AC systems, black is (hot); with DC systems, black is (common), which is a way saying it's the neutral, grounded conductor.

Green is always your equipment ground.

Well I know enough about electric to not get killed.... One of our families business' is audio video so we come across electricity time to time... We do mostly corporate jobs - upgrades to HD-TV, audio systems etc...

I will say this much - I've had my fair share of zapps climbing in ceilings...

Wire nuts suck....

 

[MeBelle]

...that in Finland, the top three parties are described as socialist, liberal conservative and liberal, in that order.

No they aren't.

Parties ranked by % of the popular vote are:

Kokoomus (Urban Conservative)

Social Democrat (Centre left)

True Finns (Extreme Right/Populist)

Centre Party (Rural Conservative)

Left Alliance (Socialist)

Greens (Left)

Swedish Speakers (Centre)

Christians (Right)

Finnish parliamentary election, 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I stand corrected, sort of...from your link:

National Coalition Party
National Coalition Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"...is a liberal conservative political party in Finland founded in 1918."
Last election
50 seats, 22.26%

Social Democrats Social Democratic Party of Finland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
" The party aims to achieve social democratic goals: a society in which freedom, equality, solidarity and co-operation thrives in a peaceful and clean environment."
Last election
45 seats, 21.44%

True Finns
True Finns - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
'The party combines left-wing economic policies with conservative social values'
Last election
5 seats, 4.05%
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What you are NOT seeing is the factoid that I was sticking up for you.

Political parties in the USA are opposite of those in Europe and they operate differently.


#side note-The Pirate Party (meaning the name) cracks me up! (meaning, makes me giggle)

 

[Billo_Really]

Well I know enough about electric to not get killed.... One of our families business' is audio video so we come across electricity time to time... We do mostly corporate jobs - upgrades to HD-TV, audio systems etc...

I will say this much - I've had my fair share of zapps climbing in ceilings...

Wire nuts suck....

I got zapped by 277V one time for just that reason. I was backing down off a ladder and my hand was coming down past some neutrals wire nutted together and someone didn't twist the nut as tight as it should have been and it came down with my fingers. All of sudden, I feel this current at the top of my head, moving down past my ears and then past my shoulders, before I hopped off the ladder.

 

[Mr.Nick]

I suppose experience in the AV industry helps...

Audio/Visual?

Yes... TV's, sound systems etc..

We do mostly corporate now... When we first started out we did bars and such and the rich folks homes....

We have mostly celebrity clients when it comes to residential.... We wont do a job for anything less than $300 an hour...