Why do liberals not believe that Hillary transmitted classified docs on her private server?

[toobfreak]

We don't even care anymore, and frankly can't understand why you care. He won, get over it! She's a private citizen.

What was the date before which you DID care? Year, month and day, please. BY YOUR LOGIC, when Hitler was defeated and the war was over, had he lived, we should have given him a pardon and told Jews to get over it.

 

[toobfreak]

who will be the first moron to lay out the conspiracy rhetoric as to why she wasnt busted ?

12 investigations led by house republicans and nothing - NOTHING

WHY ?

Hillary was indeed investigated by the FBI for receiving and transmitting classified materials on her private server. It was confirmed that she had indeed broken the law by doing so. Then James Comey claimed that he wouldn't support prosecuting her because he didn't believe that Hillary "intended" to do anything malicious. Hence, she skated. You or I would have gone to prison.

It's was never up to James Comey to decide who gets prosecuted. In case he never knew, he was only an investigator.

 

[toobfreak]

You have to take marked top secret documents, from their proper secured place on the top secret government server, and then use them in an improper manner in order to be charged with any of the Espionage Act laws.

No one from Hillary's team took any marked and stored top secret documents or emails from the government's top secret server and transferred them to Hillary's unclassified server.

The 4 top secret email chains that were on her server, were emails they received from someone outside of our government, Syd Blumenthal.

This is why they were unmarked.....they did not come from the government's proper storing place.

This is why her team did not KNOW it was top Secret classified information.

This is why she, and none of her staff, were or could be, charged with a crime.

This is why they UNKNOWINGLY had top secret information on her server.

END OF STORY.....

Wrong. Material doesn't HAVE to be marked "classified" in order for it to be classified. I will reiterate. JAMES COMEY TESTIFIED THAT HILLARY CLINTON TRANSMITTED AND RECEIVED CLASSIFIED MATERIAL VIA HER PRIVATE SERVER, WHICH IS A SERIOUS VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW. Got it?

As Sect. of State, Hillary Clinton was the TOPMOST OFFICIAL in charge of RECOGNIZING classified data in any form and seeing to it that it received the protection that it deserved.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

This is just common knowledge and, yet, there are countless liberals here and elsewhere that claim it never happened. James Comey testified to Congress that she transmitted and received classified material on her private server. Are the liberals that deny this fact just astoundingly ignorant or are they just liars?

Are the liberals that deny this fact just astoundingly ignorant or are they just liars?

Ignorant liars.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

There are liberals on this forum?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

This is just common knowledge and, yet, there are countless liberals here and elsewhere that claim it never happened. James Comey testified to Congress that she transmitted and received classified material on her private server. Are the liberals that deny this fact just astoundingly ignorant or are they just liars?

I believe Hillary.

Hillary Clinton on classified info in her emails

Hillary Clinton says none of her emails had classification headers

Classified material without classification headers is still classified.

Classified material without classification headers still shouldn't be stored on unsecured servers.

Classified material without classification headers still needs to be turned over when you leave a government job.

 

[AntonToo]

who will be the first moron to lay out the conspiracy rhetoric as to why she wasnt busted ?

12 investigations led by house republicans and nothing - NOTHING

WHY ?

Hillary was indeed investigated by the FBI for receiving and transmitting classified materials on her private server. It was confirmed that she had indeed broken the law by doing so. Then James Comey claimed that he wouldn't support prosecuting her because he didn't believe that Hillary "intended" to do anything malicious. Hence, she skated. You or I would have gone to prison.

Bullshit, no one was ever prosecuted for mishandling classified information without intent, let alone gone to prison.

General Petreus was caught red handed taking highly classified documents home so his journalist lover could have a go at them. Clear mishandling with ill intent to distribute and all he got was a probation.

Prosecuting Hillary under a statute without intent would be UNPRECEDENTED.

 

[iceberg]

who will be the first moron to lay out the conspiracy rhetoric as to why she wasnt busted ?

12 investigations led by house republicans and nothing - NOTHING

WHY ?

Hillary was indeed investigated by the FBI for receiving and transmitting classified materials on her private server. It was confirmed that she had indeed broken the law by doing so. Then James Comey claimed that he wouldn't support prosecuting her because he didn't believe that Hillary "intended" to do anything malicious. Hence, she skated. You or I would have gone to prison.

Bullshit, no one was ever prosecuted for mishandling classified information without intent, let alone gone to prison.

General Petreus was caught RED HANDED taking highly classified documents home so his journalist lover could have a go at them. Clear mishandling with ill intent and all he got was a probation.

Prosecuting Hillary under a statute without intent would be UNPRECEDENTED.

US Navy sailor jailed for taking photos of classified areas of nuclear submarine

so, showing your children what you used to do is now intent to commit a crime?

 

[AntonToo]

who will be the first moron to lay out the conspiracy rhetoric as to why she wasnt busted ?

12 investigations led by house republicans and nothing - NOTHING

WHY ?

Hillary was indeed investigated by the FBI for receiving and transmitting classified materials on her private server. It was confirmed that she had indeed broken the law by doing so. Then James Comey claimed that he wouldn't support prosecuting her because he didn't believe that Hillary "intended" to do anything malicious. Hence, she skated. You or I would have gone to prison.

Bullshit, no one was ever prosecuted for mishandling classified information without intent, let alone gone to prison.

General Petreus was caught RED HANDED taking highly classified documents home so his journalist lover could have a go at them. Clear mishandling with ill intent and all he got was a probation.

Prosecuting Hillary under a statute without intent would be UNPRECEDENTED.

US Navy sailor jailed for taking photos of classified areas of nuclear submarine

so, showing your children what you used to do is now intent to commit a crime?

Dummy, he was charged under statute that requires intent.

Prosecutor believed this sailor was conducting espionage.

 

[Doc1]

who will be the first moron to lay out the conspiracy rhetoric as to why she wasnt busted ?

12 investigations led by house republicans and nothing - NOTHING

WHY ?

Hillary was indeed investigated by the FBI for receiving and transmitting classified materials on her private server. It was confirmed that she had indeed broken the law by doing so. Then James Comey claimed that he wouldn't support prosecuting her because he didn't believe that Hillary "intended" to do anything malicious. Hence, she skated. You or I would have gone to prison.

Bullshit, no one was ever prosecuted for mishandling classified information without intent, let alone gone to prison.

General Petreus was caught RED HANDED taking highly classified documents home so his journalist lover could have a go at them. Clear mishandling with ill intent and all he got was a probation.

Prosecuting Hillary under a statute without intent would be UNPRECEDENTED.

US Navy sailor jailed for taking photos of classified areas of nuclear submarine

so, showing your children what you used to do is now intent to commit a crime?

Dummy he was charged under statute that requires intent.

Post the statute, let's see where it speaks of "intent".

 

[AntonToo]

who will be the first moron to lay out the conspiracy rhetoric as to why she wasnt busted ?

12 investigations led by house republicans and nothing - NOTHING

WHY ?

Hillary was indeed investigated by the FBI for receiving and transmitting classified materials on her private server. It was confirmed that she had indeed broken the law by doing so. Then James Comey claimed that he wouldn't support prosecuting her because he didn't believe that Hillary "intended" to do anything malicious. Hence, she skated. You or I would have gone to prison.

Bullshit, no one was ever prosecuted for mishandling classified information without intent, let alone gone to prison.

General Petreus was caught RED HANDED taking highly classified documents home so his journalist lover could have a go at them. Clear mishandling with ill intent and all he got was a probation.

Prosecuting Hillary under a statute without intent would be UNPRECEDENTED.

US Navy sailor jailed for taking photos of classified areas of nuclear submarine

so, showing your children what you used to do is now intent to commit a crime?

Dummy he was charged under statute that requires intent.

Post the statute, let's see where it speaks of "intent".

I'm not your little fetch dog, you want to say that case is comparable? Ok prove it.

 

[K9Buck]

Bullshit, no one was ever prosecuted for mishandling classified information without intent, let alone gone to prison.

General Petreus was caught red handed taking highly classified documents home so his journalist lover could have a go at them. Clear mishandling with ill intent to distribute and all he got was a probation.

Prosecuting Hillary under a statute without intent would be UNPRECEDENTED.

Incorrect.

http://www.wnd.com/2016/07/justice-department-prosecuted-4-cases-like-hillarys/

 

[AntonToo]

Bullshit, no one was ever prosecuted for mishandling classified information without intent, let alone gone to prison.

General Petreus was caught red handed taking highly classified documents home so his journalist lover could have a go at them. Clear mishandling with ill intent to distribute and all he got was a probation.

Prosecuting Hillary under a statute without intent would be UNPRECEDENTED.

Incorrect.

Justice Department prosecuted 4 cases like Hillary’s

You should read less bullshit.

No one has ever been charged under that specific statute without intent and most consider it UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

 

[K9Buck]

Hillary was indeed investigated by the FBI for receiving and transmitting classified materials on her private server. It was confirmed that she had indeed broken the law by doing so. Then James Comey claimed that he wouldn't support prosecuting her because he didn't believe that Hillary "intended" to do anything malicious. Hence, she skated. You or I would have gone to prison.

Bullshit, no one was ever prosecuted for mishandling classified information without intent, let alone gone to prison.

General Petreus was caught RED HANDED taking highly classified documents home so his journalist lover could have a go at them. Clear mishandling with ill intent and all he got was a probation.

Prosecuting Hillary under a statute without intent would be UNPRECEDENTED.

US Navy sailor jailed for taking photos of classified areas of nuclear submarine

so, showing your children what you used to do is now intent to commit a crime?

Dummy he was charged under statute that requires intent.

Post the statute, let's see where it speaks of "intent".

I'm not your little fetch dog, you want to say that case is comparable? Ok prove it.

That sailor did far less than Hillary. He went to prison and Hillary skated.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You have to take marked top secret documents, from their proper secured place on the top secret government server, and then use them in an improper manner in order to be charged with any of the Espionage Act laws.

No one from Hillary's team took any marked and stored top secret documents or emails from the government's top secret server and transferred them to Hillary's unclassified server.

The 4 top secret email chains that were on her server, were emails they received from someone outside of our government, Syd Blumenthal.

This is why they were unmarked.....they did not come from the government's proper storing place.

This is why her team did not KNOW it was top Secret classified information.

This is why she, and none of her staff, were or could be, charged with a crime.

This is why they UNKNOWINGLY had top secret information on her server.

END OF STORY.....

You have to take marked top secret documents, from their proper secured place on the top secret government server, and then use them in an improper manner in order to be charged with any of the Espionage Act laws.

No one from Hillary's team took any marked and stored top secret documents or emails from the government's top secret server and transferred them to Hillary's unclassified server.


“It takes a very conscious effort to move a classified email or cable from the classified systems over to the unsecured open system and then send it to Hillary Clinton’s personal email account,” said Raymond Fournier, a veteran Diplomatic Security Service special agent. “That’s no less than a two-conscious-step process.”

He says it’s clear from some of the classified emails made public that someone on Clinton’s staff essentially “cut and pasted” content from classified cables into the messages sent to her. The classified markings are gone, but the content is classified at the highest levels — and so sensitive in nature that “it would have been obvious to Clinton.” Most likely the information was, in turn, emailed to her via NIPRNet.

To work around the closed, classified systems, which are accessible only by secure desktop workstations whose hard drives must be removed and stored overnight in a safe, Clinton’s staff would have simply retyped classified information from the systems into the non-classified system or taken a screen shot of the classified document, Fournier said. “Either way, it’s totally illegal.”

https://nypost.com/2016/01/24/hillarys-team-copied-intel-off-top-secret-server-to-email/

 

[K9Buck]

Bullshit, no one was ever prosecuted for mishandling classified information without intent, let alone gone to prison.

General Petreus was caught red handed taking highly classified documents home so his journalist lover could have a go at them. Clear mishandling with ill intent to distribute and all he got was a probation.

Prosecuting Hillary under a statute without intent would be UNPRECEDENTED.

Incorrect.

Justice Department prosecuted 4 cases like Hillary’s

You should read less bullshit.

Lol. You didn't even read the article.

 

[Care4all]

who will be the first moron to lay out the conspiracy rhetoric as to why she wasnt busted ?

12 investigations led by house republicans and nothing - NOTHING

WHY ?

Hillary was indeed investigated by the FBI for receiving and transmitting classified materials on her private server. It was confirmed that she had indeed broken the law by doing so. Then James Comey claimed that he wouldn't support prosecuting her because he didn't believe that Hillary "intended" to do anything malicious. Hence, she skated. You or I would have gone to prison.

Bullshit, no one was ever prosecuted for mishandling classified information without intent, let alone gone to prison.

General Petreus was caught RED HANDED taking highly classified documents home so his journalist lover could have a go at them. Clear mishandling with ill intent and all he got was a probation.

Prosecuting Hillary under a statute without intent would be UNPRECEDENTED.

US Navy sailor jailed for taking photos of classified areas of nuclear submarine

so, showing your children what you used to do is now intent to commit a crime?

Dummy, he was charged under statute that requires intent.

Prosecutor believed this sailor was conducting espionage.

And he lied about it, twice. Plus it was top secret Defense stuff, and he was in the military which has stronger rules than for a civilian like Hillary and her staff...

Same with Petreaus, he lied about it to the FBI, twice as well.... and he was only charged with a misdemeanor....not even a felony....

 

[toobfreak]

No, it's just not a big deal. when you have a system that was designed for the 1970's being used in the Oughts, you are going to have this sort of thing happen. Just can't get worked up over that.

JoeB, the same guy that wants to try and hang an early 19th century doctor considered one of the early fathers of modern female medicine for not using anesthesia at a time it was barely known or used by any doctors yet, for trying to heal people of terrible afflictions at a time when no one else had even bothered or tried, on people who at the time not only NEEDED the treatment but were the ones first most available to be worked on, is now the same person who despite overwhelming evidence of criminal conspiracy and treason abusing her position in government for quid pro quo selling of national security and favors for personal gain using staff members both on the government payroll while also working for her PRIVATELY, just can't GIVE A SHIT and goes so far as to make excuses for it!

I can't wait to see how little he cares the first time they find a sliver of potential wrongdoing by Trump! I bet he'll get worked up over that.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

who will be the first moron to lay out the conspiracy rhetoric as to why she wasnt busted ?

12 investigations led by house republicans and nothing - NOTHING

WHY ?

Hillary was indeed investigated by the FBI for receiving and transmitting classified materials on her private server. It was confirmed that she had indeed broken the law by doing so. Then James Comey claimed that he wouldn't support prosecuting her because he didn't believe that Hillary "intended" to do anything malicious. Hence, she skated. You or I would have gone to prison.

Bullshit, no one was ever prosecuted for mishandling classified information without intent, let alone gone to prison.

General Petreus was caught red handed taking highly classified documents home so his journalist lover could have a go at them. Clear mishandling with ill intent to distribute and all he got was a probation.

Prosecuting Hillary under a statute without intent would be UNPRECEDENTED.

Bullshit, no one was ever prosecuted for mishandling classified information without intent, let alone gone to prison.

If you can, please copy and paste the applicable law which backs up your claim that intent matters.

 

[AntonToo]

Bullshit, no one was ever prosecuted for mishandling classified information without intent, let alone gone to prison.

General Petreus was caught RED HANDED taking highly classified documents home so his journalist lover could have a go at them. Clear mishandling with ill intent and all he got was a probation.

Prosecuting Hillary under a statute without intent would be UNPRECEDENTED.

US Navy sailor jailed for taking photos of classified areas of nuclear submarine

so, showing your children what you used to do is now intent to commit a crime?

Dummy he was charged under statute that requires intent.

Post the statute, let's see where it speaks of "intent".

I'm not your little fetch dog, you want to say that case is comparable? Ok prove it.

That sailor did far less than Hillary. He went to prison and Hillary skated.

WTF are you talking about?

He took panaramic pictures of nuclear submarine engine room, that everyone knew Chinese were willing to pay big bucks to see. He then disposed of the phone that took pictures (it was found at the dump and forwarded to authorities, which is how he got caught) and after interview with FBI went home and smashed up his laptop.

Prosecutor brought charges WITH INTENT to conduct espionage.