8 Cases Where Mishandling of Classified Information Went Unpunished

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8 Cases Where Mishandling of Classified Information Went Unpunished​

8 Cases Where Mishandling of Classified Information Went Unpunished

Do we really have "one set of laws"? A review of 17 examples of alleged mishandling of classified information suggests a double standard.

www.breitbart.com

24 Jun 2023 ~~ By JOEL B. POLLAK

The core of the accusation against former President Donald Trump is the allegation that he retained and mishandled classified information and national defense secrets. Special Counsel Jack Smith justified this unprecedented prosecution by citing the need to protect classified information and the rule of law. But do we really have “one set of laws in this country”? Here is a list of eight past examples of high-profile individuals who were never prosecuted for the same basic or similar allegations.
Hillary Clinton – Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was found to have maintained a private email server during her four-year tenure at the Department of State. The server was located in a bathroom closet in a loft in Denver, Colorado, and included classified information. Worse yet, Clinton used 13 mobile devices to send and receive emails on the server, and five iPads. Some of the mobile devices were destroyed with hammers.
Despite Hillary Clinton’s denials, there were hundreds of emails on her private server that included classified information. As Fox News noted last year (original links):

Intelligence Community Inspector General I. Charles McCullough III laid out the findings of the Clinton documents review by intelligence agencies that identified “several dozen” additional classified emails – including specific intelligence known as “special access programs” (SAP).​

~Snip~
Bill Clinton – In what became known as the “Socks case,” Judicial Watch, a private non-profit organization, sued the government to compel it to provide audio tapes made by the White House when Bill Clinton was president and participating in interviews with a historian. President Clinton allegedly hid the tapes in his sock drawer when he left the White House, the better to claim them as “personal” rather than presidential records.
~Snip~
Joe Biden – President Biden took classified documents from the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) in the Senate when he left to take up his new post as vice president. Those papers were stored in his archive at the University of Delaware, which sealed public access to his records. More egregiously, he was found to have taken classified documents to his private home in Wilmington, Delaware, where they were stored in his garage, next to his Corvette. His son, Hunter Biden, known to have close contacts with foreign business partners and even Chinese intelligence, stayed at the house during the time the classified documents were kept there, and had access to the garage, and was even seen driving the Corvette.
~Snip~
James Comey – Outgoing FBI director, who had just been fired by President Trump, leaked memoranda of his conversations with the president to the press, via a Columbia University professor — who later became his lawyer — who then leaked them to the media. Comey did so, he later admitted, hoping to trigger the appointment of a special counsel to probe allegations of “Russia collusion” — even though he and the FBI knew that the primary source of the claims, the so-called “Steele dossier,” was a fraud. The Department of Justice investigated the leaks but declined to do anything about it, saying Comey did not intend to leak to the media.
~Snip~
Barack Obama – A president cannot “leak,” by definition, because the president has full authority to classify or declassify information. But the Obama White House leaked sensitive information on a constant basis. In 2012, the New York Times reported that then-President Barack Obama maintained a “kill list” of suspected foreign terrorists who were to be droned. The report made Obama look tough during a close reelection fight; the information was almost certainly leaked by someone in the White House. Yet despite the concern in some quarters, both about the leak and the substance of it, Obama was never held responsible for it.
~Snip~
Mike Pence – Just as Biden was found to have kept classified documents at his personal resident, so, too, former Vice President Pence was found to have government documents at his home, apparently taken as part of his effort to compose his political memoirs in anticipation of his presidential campaign in 2024. Pence returned the documents after they were discovered. Still, like Biden, Pence had no authority to take the documents, even as vice president. The Department of Justice declined to prosecute Pence just before it indicted Trump.
~Snip~
Lyndon Johnson – As conservative radio host Mark Levin has noted, the president most associated with the Vietnam War removed sensitive federal records, sealed them for 50 years, and even destroyed some of them. From the Miller Center at the University of Virginia:
~Snip~
Leon Panetta – Then-CIA Director Panetta allegedly leaked classified information to a filmmaker behind Zero Dark Thirty, a film about the search for Al Qaeda terrorist leader Osama bin Laden that was originally intended for release before the 2012 elections. A draft inspector general’s report suggested that Panetta had revealed the unit involved in the mission, as well as its commander, as screenwriter Mark Boal was present for a CIA event.
~Snip~
The point is not that mishandling of classified information is never punished: it is often punished harshly when the defendants are low-level leakers or inadvertent offenders. But senior officials often escape punishment, or are lightly punished, especially if they are Democrats.
The way that President Donald Trump is being treated is extraordinary and vastly out of proportion to both the alleged offenses and the history of such investigations.


Commentary:
Maoists Leftists are terrified of the thought that a man who cannot be bought, who they can't find any real dirt on, who they cannot control through blackmail or any other means, could be President again.
The possibility that there could be thousands of examples that have been ignored and left unprosecuted, but this corrupt DOJ, FBI, Department of Archives, and administration will use everything at their disposal to attempt to derail Trump or assassinate his character and reputation. There is a “Deep State” of evil within this country. Trump is an existential threat to all of them.
Sessions was compromised and should have appointed a special counsel to investigate either clearing her and other associates also involved in the mishandling of documents or indicting them. That is how the justice system works, or at least is supposed to work.
Hillary destroyed subpoenaed evidence in a federal investigation and there is no denying that she did it.
This alone would land anyone in prison regardless of whether or not there were any other criminal charges in a case.
Yet, Comey told us on national TV there was "NO INTENT"!!!!!! NO REASONABLE PROSCUTOR WOULD PROSCUTE!!!! IF YOU CAN'T BELIEVE HIM....WHO CAN YOU BELIEVE?????

and there are hundreds of cases where mishandling classified material resulted in lengthy sentences and capital punishment.

 

[Smokin' OP]

and there are hundreds of cases where mishandling classified material resulted in lengthy sentences and capital punishment.

Yeah, but in Trump's case, additional factors that were disclosed, let alone the ones that weren't.

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[Independentthinker]

8 Cases Where Mishandling of Classified Information Went Unpunished​

8 Cases Where Mishandling of Classified Information Went Unpunished

Do we really have "one set of laws"? A review of 17 examples of alleged mishandling of classified information suggests a double standard.

www.breitbart.com

24 Jun 2023 ~~ By JOEL B. POLLAK

The core of the accusation against former President Donald Trump is the allegation that he retained and mishandled classified information and national defense secrets. Special Counsel Jack Smith justified this unprecedented prosecution by citing the need to protect classified information and the rule of law. But do we really have “one set of laws in this country”? Here is a list of eight past examples of high-profile individuals who were never prosecuted for the same basic or similar allegations.
Hillary Clinton – Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was found to have maintained a private email server during her four-year tenure at the Department of State. The server was located in a bathroom closet in a loft in Denver, Colorado, and included classified information. Worse yet, Clinton used 13 mobile devices to send and receive emails on the server, and five iPads. Some of the mobile devices were destroyed with hammers.
Despite Hillary Clinton’s denials, there were hundreds of emails on her private server that included classified information. As Fox News noted last year (original links):

Intelligence Community Inspector General I. Charles McCullough III laid out the findings of the Clinton documents review by intelligence agencies that identified “several dozen” additional classified emails – including specific intelligence known as “special access programs” (SAP).​

~Snip~
Bill Clinton – In what became known as the “Socks case,” Judicial Watch, a private non-profit organization, sued the government to compel it to provide audio tapes made by the White House when Bill Clinton was president and participating in interviews with a historian. President Clinton allegedly hid the tapes in his sock drawer when he left the White House, the better to claim them as “personal” rather than presidential records.
~Snip~
Joe Biden – President Biden took classified documents from the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) in the Senate when he left to take up his new post as vice president. Those papers were stored in his archive at the University of Delaware, which sealed public access to his records. More egregiously, he was found to have taken classified documents to his private home in Wilmington, Delaware, where they were stored in his garage, next to his Corvette. His son, Hunter Biden, known to have close contacts with foreign business partners and even Chinese intelligence, stayed at the house during the time the classified documents were kept there, and had access to the garage, and was even seen driving the Corvette.
~Snip~
James Comey – Outgoing FBI director, who had just been fired by President Trump, leaked memoranda of his conversations with the president to the press, via a Columbia University professor — who later became his lawyer — who then leaked them to the media. Comey did so, he later admitted, hoping to trigger the appointment of a special counsel to probe allegations of “Russia collusion” — even though he and the FBI knew that the primary source of the claims, the so-called “Steele dossier,” was a fraud. The Department of Justice investigated the leaks but declined to do anything about it, saying Comey did not intend to leak to the media.
~Snip~
Barack Obama – A president cannot “leak,” by definition, because the president has full authority to classify or declassify information. But the Obama White House leaked sensitive information on a constant basis. In 2012, the New York Times reported that then-President Barack Obama maintained a “kill list” of suspected foreign terrorists who were to be droned. The report made Obama look tough during a close reelection fight; the information was almost certainly leaked by someone in the White House. Yet despite the concern in some quarters, both about the leak and the substance of it, Obama was never held responsible for it.
~Snip~
Mike Pence – Just as Biden was found to have kept classified documents at his personal resident, so, too, former Vice President Pence was found to have government documents at his home, apparently taken as part of his effort to compose his political memoirs in anticipation of his presidential campaign in 2024. Pence returned the documents after they were discovered. Still, like Biden, Pence had no authority to take the documents, even as vice president. The Department of Justice declined to prosecute Pence just before it indicted Trump.
~Snip~
Lyndon Johnson – As conservative radio host Mark Levin has noted, the president most associated with the Vietnam War removed sensitive federal records, sealed them for 50 years, and even destroyed some of them. From the Miller Center at the University of Virginia:
~Snip~
Leon Panetta – Then-CIA Director Panetta allegedly leaked classified information to a filmmaker behind Zero Dark Thirty, a film about the search for Al Qaeda terrorist leader Osama bin Laden that was originally intended for release before the 2012 elections. A draft inspector general’s report suggested that Panetta had revealed the unit involved in the mission, as well as its commander, as screenwriter Mark Boal was present for a CIA event.
~Snip~
The point is not that mishandling of classified information is never punished: it is often punished harshly when the defendants are low-level leakers or inadvertent offenders. But senior officials often escape punishment, or are lightly punished, especially if they are Democrats.
The way that President Donald Trump is being treated is extraordinary and vastly out of proportion to both the alleged offenses and the history of such investigations.


Commentary:
Maoists Leftists are terrified of the thought that a man who cannot be bought, who they can't find any real dirt on, who they cannot control through blackmail or any other means, could be President again.
The possibility that there could be thousands of examples that have been ignored and left unprosecuted, but this corrupt DOJ, FBI, Department of Archives, and administration will use everything at their disposal to attempt to derail Trump or assassinate his character and reputation. There is a “Deep State” of evil within this country. Trump is an existential threat to all of them.
Sessions was compromised and should have appointed a special counsel to investigate either clearing her and other associates also involved in the mishandling of documents or indicting them. That is how the justice system works, or at least is supposed to work.
Hillary destroyed subpoenaed evidence in a federal investigation and there is no denying that she did it.
This alone would land anyone in prison regardless of whether or not there were any other criminal charges in a case.
Yet, Comey told us on national TV there was "NO INTENT"!!!!!! NO REASONABLE PROSCUTOR WOULD PROSCUTE!!!! IF YOU CAN'T BELIEVE HIM....WHO CAN YOU BELIEVE?????

I would like to know from leftists what the time frame is where having classified information becomes a national security risk and charges need to be leveled. Trump had his for about a year to two before they took it back. Seems like most of the ones in your post had it for much longer than that or had info that was more open to falling into the wrong hands. Biden has had his dating back to the time he was VP and Hillary Clinton's could have very easily fallen into the wrong hands with all classified info going through her home server. So, if having classified info is fine up to a period and is no longer fine after a certain period, I would like to know what that time frame is so that we can have a fair assessment of whom had a greater risk than the others. If they left could, please respond with a link to where this time frame is in the laws where one day it is OK and the next day it is not.

 

[SavannahMann]

I would like to know from leftists what the time frame is where having classified information becomes a national security risk and charges need to be leveled. Trump had his for about a year to two before they took it back. Seems like most of the ones in your post had it for much longer than that or had info that was more open to falling into the wrong hands. Biden has had his dating back to the time he was VP and Hillary Clinton's could have very easily fallen into the wrong hands. So, if having classified info is fine up to a period and is no longer fine after a certain period, I would like to know what that time frame is so that we can have a fair assessment of whom had a greater risk than the others. If they left could, please respond with a link to where this time frame is in the laws where one day it is OK and the next day it is not.

The question is one I’ve addressed before. But I’ll do it again.

Let’s begin by being honest. The last few weeks in the White House or any administration is a nightmare. You are still trying to deal with the daily problems, you’re trying to cooperate with the incoming administration to help them get set up to govern on day one. You’re sorting and setting files up. You’re separating things that are Government Property and those which are personal property. It’s a nightmare.

Mistakes happen. We are human, we make mistakes. I can easily see that some files will be accidentally put in wrong boxes. I can see it happening. I mean, when I go to a lawyers office in real life, not TV, there are folders and files everywhere. Boxes are stacked up in Conference Rooms for ongoing cases. And I can only imagine that areas out of public view in the White House, with documents coming in from all over the Government on a daily basis, are stacked similarly.

So I can easily see someone accidentally putting a file that is classified in a box that is labeled personal. It just got in the wrong stack and put in the box. Again mistakes happen. That appears to be what happened to Pence and Biden and others.

The difference comes about in how you react when you realize the mistake. Do you call someone and say hey, I just found this and someone needs to come and secure it? Or do you tell your staff that they never saw it and keep it from anyone? Pence and Biden both did the former. They called and said we just found these while conducting an intensive search. As far as we know nobody has looked in these boxes since they got here. But you need to come and get these files. They cooperated with the people with the authority.

Trump apparently did not.

It is the old question. You find a wallet on the street. Do you try and return it to the owner? Do you turn it into the cops? Do you go through it and steal the cash? Do you keep it and try and use the credit cards? Do you take the ID and use it as your own? Are you an honest man or a crook? An honest man might try and Identify the owner and get it back to him. An honest man might try and turn it over to the cops. A slightly crooked man might take the cash, swear it was empty when he found it, and turn it in. A really crooked man will take the cash, the cards, and the Identification inside.

Pence and Biden turned the wallet in to the cops as soon as they found them. Trump didn’t. That’s the difference. It means that you can’t claim it was an honest mistake when the files were accidentally put in the boxes. It means that taking and retention of the documents, in violation of the law, was the intent all the time.

 

[Independentthinker]

Let’s begin by being honest.

Your post went South after this sentence.

 

[progressive hunter]

and there are hundreds of cases where mishandling classified material resulted in lengthy sentences and capital punishment.

and yet you cant name a single one,,

 

[SavannahMann]

Your post went South after this sentence.

It’s so infuriating isn’t it? When someone is able to show your entire argument is bullshit? False Equivalency only works when nobody points out it is false.

 

[Billo_Really]

8 Cases Where Mishandling of Classified Information Went Unpunished​

8 Cases Where Mishandling of Classified Information Went Unpunished

Do we really have "one set of laws"? A review of 17 examples of alleged mishandling of classified information suggests a double standard.

www.breitbart.com

24 Jun 2023 ~~ By JOEL B. POLLAK

The core of the accusation against former President Donald Trump is the allegation that he retained and mishandled classified information and national defense secrets. Special Counsel Jack Smith justified this unprecedented prosecution by citing the need to protect classified information and the rule of law. But do we really have “one set of laws in this country”? Here is a list of eight past examples of high-profile individuals who were never prosecuted for the same basic or similar allegations.
Hillary Clinton – Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was found to have maintained a private email server during her four-year tenure at the Department of State. The server was located in a bathroom closet in a loft in Denver, Colorado, and included classified information. Worse yet, Clinton used 13 mobile devices to send and receive emails on the server, and five iPads. Some of the mobile devices were destroyed with hammers.
Despite Hillary Clinton’s denials, there were hundreds of emails on her private server that included classified information. As Fox News noted last year (original links):

Intelligence Community Inspector General I. Charles McCullough III laid out the findings of the Clinton documents review by intelligence agencies that identified “several dozen” additional classified emails – including specific intelligence known as “special access programs” (SAP).​

~Snip~
Bill Clinton – In what became known as the “Socks case,” Judicial Watch, a private non-profit organization, sued the government to compel it to provide audio tapes made by the White House when Bill Clinton was president and participating in interviews with a historian. President Clinton allegedly hid the tapes in his sock drawer when he left the White House, the better to claim them as “personal” rather than presidential records.
~Snip~
Joe Biden – President Biden took classified documents from the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) in the Senate when he left to take up his new post as vice president. Those papers were stored in his archive at the University of Delaware, which sealed public access to his records. More egregiously, he was found to have taken classified documents to his private home in Wilmington, Delaware, where they were stored in his garage, next to his Corvette. His son, Hunter Biden, known to have close contacts with foreign business partners and even Chinese intelligence, stayed at the house during the time the classified documents were kept there, and had access to the garage, and was even seen driving the Corvette.
~Snip~
James Comey – Outgoing FBI director, who had just been fired by President Trump, leaked memoranda of his conversations with the president to the press, via a Columbia University professor — who later became his lawyer — who then leaked them to the media. Comey did so, he later admitted, hoping to trigger the appointment of a special counsel to probe allegations of “Russia collusion” — even though he and the FBI knew that the primary source of the claims, the so-called “Steele dossier,” was a fraud. The Department of Justice investigated the leaks but declined to do anything about it, saying Comey did not intend to leak to the media.
~Snip~
Barack Obama – A president cannot “leak,” by definition, because the president has full authority to classify or declassify information. But the Obama White House leaked sensitive information on a constant basis. In 2012, the New York Times reported that then-President Barack Obama maintained a “kill list” of suspected foreign terrorists who were to be droned. The report made Obama look tough during a close reelection fight; the information was almost certainly leaked by someone in the White House. Yet despite the concern in some quarters, both about the leak and the substance of it, Obama was never held responsible for it.
~Snip~
Mike Pence – Just as Biden was found to have kept classified documents at his personal resident, so, too, former Vice President Pence was found to have government documents at his home, apparently taken as part of his effort to compose his political memoirs in anticipation of his presidential campaign in 2024. Pence returned the documents after they were discovered. Still, like Biden, Pence had no authority to take the documents, even as vice president. The Department of Justice declined to prosecute Pence just before it indicted Trump.
~Snip~
Lyndon Johnson – As conservative radio host Mark Levin has noted, the president most associated with the Vietnam War removed sensitive federal records, sealed them for 50 years, and even destroyed some of them. From the Miller Center at the University of Virginia:
~Snip~
Leon Panetta – Then-CIA Director Panetta allegedly leaked classified information to a filmmaker behind Zero Dark Thirty, a film about the search for Al Qaeda terrorist leader Osama bin Laden that was originally intended for release before the 2012 elections. A draft inspector general’s report suggested that Panetta had revealed the unit involved in the mission, as well as its commander, as screenwriter Mark Boal was present for a CIA event.
~Snip~
The point is not that mishandling of classified information is never punished: it is often punished harshly when the defendants are low-level leakers or inadvertent offenders. But senior officials often escape punishment, or are lightly punished, especially if they are Democrats.
The way that President Donald Trump is being treated is extraordinary and vastly out of proportion to both the alleged offenses and the history of such investigations.


Commentary:
Maoists Leftists are terrified of the thought that a man who cannot be bought, who they can't find any real dirt on, who they cannot control through blackmail or any other means, could be President again.
The possibility that there could be thousands of examples that have been ignored and left unprosecuted, but this corrupt DOJ, FBI, Department of Archives, and administration will use everything at their disposal to attempt to derail Trump or assassinate his character and reputation. There is a “Deep State” of evil within this country. Trump is an existential threat to all of them.
Sessions was compromised and should have appointed a special counsel to investigate either clearing her and other associates also involved in the mishandling of documents or indicting them. That is how the justice system works, or at least is supposed to work.
Hillary destroyed subpoenaed evidence in a federal investigation and there is no denying that she did it.
This alone would land anyone in prison regardless of whether or not there were any other criminal charges in a case.
Yet, Comey told us on national TV there was "NO INTENT"!!!!!! NO REASONABLE PROSCUTOR WOULD PROSCUTE!!!! IF YOU CAN'T BELIEVE HIM....WHO CAN YOU BELIEVE?????

With all that being said, FUCK TRUMP!

 

[Billiejeens]

With all that being said, FUCK TRUMP!

Atta-boy.