Againsheila
Gold Member
I used to have a friend from India. He says we do it all wrong here. In India, one person working can support 10 people. Here one person working can't even afford to support himself.
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Before Reagan, we had something called "subsidized income" for people who were working but didn't make enough money. Reagan ended that "welfare" program and was surprised when most of those working people had to quit because they got more completely on welfare than they did working and they had to raise their kids.
I don't know if we've gone back to that but considering minimum wage has the lowest spending power in history, I sure hope so. People who are working deserve to make a living wage, especially in the so called "richest" nation in the world.
Look I know I exaggerate when I say he was voted in because he was black and different. But they are making coins and posters and tv and magazine shows and the guy hasn't done a single thing other than BE black.
Far less discussion is of his politics than of his skin color. Why is everyone so obsessed with skin color? His annointers really are. It seems that because he is black he must have the answers to all our questions.
Promising words in our ears that probably won't come true, except for trying to hurt free enterprise by cursing every rich person and condemning their wealth because it "must be a result of corruption." and not hard work and ingenuity.
Free health care for everyone?????????????? What a disaster!!!!!!!!
That would be great IF WE COULD AFFORD IT. But there has never been a time in our history when we ever could. WHY NOW OF ALL TIMES?
People need to get off their asses, get to work and tear up their welfare checks(at least those who don't truly need them). Take a job that is beneath their dignity like McDonalds, WalMart(heaven forbid). Before I ever take a doled out welfare check from the government I will go and work in the strawberry fields with the illegals. I would go as a door to door salesman if I had to.
But we keep coddling the lazy and they keep getting fatter and fatter. Look at how many poor and welfaring citizens we have that are morbidly obese. What the hell kind of pathetic losers are we becoming. AND OBAMA WANTS TO PERPETUATE THIS.
So don't give me this crap like he has all the answers and is exaclty what we need. The mindset of the country needs to be turned back to the economic view of the 40s. Get to work no excuses, no one is going to give you a handout.
Before Reagan, we had something called "subsidized income" for people who were working but didn't make enough money. Reagan ended that "welfare" program and was surprised when most of those working people had to quit because they got more completely on welfare than they did working and they had to raise their kids.
I don't know if we've gone back to that but considering minimum wage has the lowest spending power in history, I sure hope so. People who are working deserve to make a living wage, especially in the so called "richest" nation in the world.
That is one program that should be reinstated. Screw welfare, give money to people working instead. Then more would get jobs and less money would be lost.
Look I know I exaggerate when I say he was voted in because he was black and different. But they are making coins and posters and tv and magazine shows and the guy hasn't done a single thing other than BE black.
That is true but I also saw plates of Ronnie also. Don't remember any coins though....
Far less discussion is of his politics than of his skin color. Why is everyone so obsessed with skin color? His annointers really are. It seems that because he is black he must have the answers to all our questions.
We've been obsessed with skin color in this country for a long time. He is the first POTUS of color which is no small feat and is something to celebrate considering the history of race relations. No one as all the answers but do you believe that anyone can turn this country around? We are usually offered two options for POTUS. And usually the person you choose is the person you feel is best to do the job. It's no different now. It's not an obsession with him being black, it was an obsession with change. I feel like he can really bring about change. But I also think that it's going to be a lot of work. And from what he is doing now, I believe him. He can easily just shut the republicans out but he is actually trying to work with them. Some people don't like change....
I never expected him or any other politician to come through with everything they promise. I just think that they shouldn't go in a completely different direction. I also think that he is addressing greed and corruption from the people that received help from taxpayers. As far as the spreading the wealth argument, that's what taxes are doing anyway. I don't think there is no one that has lost everything they had because they paid taxes. Free healthcare should be done but that's another story. I don't see that happening anytime soon.
People need to get off their asses, get to work and tear up their welfare checks(at least those who don't truly need them). Take a job that is beneath their dignity like McDonalds, WalMart(heaven forbid). Before I ever take a doled out welfare check from the government I will go and work in the strawberry fields with the illegals. I would go as a door to door salesman if I had to.
But we keep coddling the lazy and they keep getting fatter and fatter. Look at how many poor and welfaring citizens we have that are morbidly obese. What the hell kind of pathetic losers are we becoming. AND OBAMA WANTS TO PERPETUATE THIS.
I think people do get off their asses and work. I don't know any welfare recipients personally so I can't speak for any of them. But I do see lower income folks working in Walmart and McDonalds. It doesn't look like they have a shortage of workers. And unless you are willing to get paid what illegals get paid, you wouldn't be in the strawberry fields either. And dude, there are a LOT of middle class and upper class fat people too. Do you really equate welfare with being fat? That is an American problem and not a welfare problem.
So don't give me this crap like he has all the answers and is exaclty what we need. The mindset of the country needs to be turned back to the economic view of the 40s. Get to work no excuses, no one is going to give you a handout.
I'm assuming that was for someone else but we don't have much different views. No one has all the answers including the members of this board (even though we sometimes act like we do). I feel like you want this country to be on the right path just like I do. That's what we all have in common but we have different opinions on how it gets there.
um "none of the above?"
Maybe I'll chance my name to "none of the above" and run for office.
Who would you vote for?
I would have voted for Ron Paul. I ended up voting for the constitutional party candidate, Chuck Baldwin. Both the dems and the reps are so corrupt that anyone voting for them is voting for the destruction of our country.
Going with none of the above, or Ron Paul as well.
Who would you vote for?
I would have voted for Ron Paul. I ended up voting for the constitutional party candidate, Chuck Baldwin. Both the dems and the reps are so corrupt that anyone voting for them is voting for the destruction of our country.
Going with none of the above, or Ron Paul as well.
I'd have voted for Ron Paul as well.
Ok, I just found out all I need to know from one google search. Any nitwit who says that the war on terror is a bad idea, has his head in the sand and knows nothing about foreign relations or the terrorists he denies are out there trying to kill us.
that alone would make me not vote for him. He would get us all massacred.
Ok, I just found out all I need to know from one google search. Any nitwit who says that the war on terror is a bad idea, has his head in the sand and knows nothing about foreign relations or the terrorists he denies are out there trying to kill us.
that alone would make me not vote for him. He would get us all massacred.
You're view of Ron Paul is clearly inaccurate if you think he denies that there are terrorists who'd like to kill us. Do some more research.
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That would be a good start.
Ok, I just found out all I need to know from one google search. Any nitwit who says that the war on terror is a bad idea, has his head in the sand and knows nothing about foreign relations or the terrorists he denies are out there trying to kill us.
that alone would make me not vote for him. He would get us all massacred.
You're view of Ron Paul is clearly inaccurate if you think he denies that there are terrorists who'd like to kill us. Do some more research.
Campaign For Liberty — Home
That would be a good start.
dude, he may not deny there are terrorists but he wants to just cancel the war on terror and let them win. That is dangerous. sure I haven't read much more of his politics but that is a fatal flaw for a candidate in my view. Therefore the rest of his politics are irrelevant if we don't live long enought to see his reforms play out.
Ok, I just found out all I need to know from one google search. Any nitwit who says that the war on terror is a bad idea, has his head in the sand and knows nothing about foreign relations or the terrorists he denies are out there trying to kill us.
that alone would make me not vote for him. He would get us all massacred.
You're view of Ron Paul is clearly inaccurate if you think he denies that there are terrorists who'd like to kill us. Do some more research.
Campaign For Liberty — Home
That would be a good start.
dude, he may not deny there are terrorists but he wants to just cancel the war on terror and let them win. That is dangerous. sure I haven't read much more of his politics but that is a fatal flaw for a candidate in my view. Therefore the rest of his politics are irrelevant if we don't live long enought to see his reforms play out.
dude, he may not deny there are terrorists but he wants to just cancel the war on terror and let them win. That is dangerous. sure I haven't read much more of his politics but that is a fatal flaw for a candidate in my view. Therefore the rest of his politics are irrelevant if we don't live long enought to see his reforms play out.
Ok, I just found out all I need to know from one google search. Any nitwit who says that the war on terror is a bad idea, has his head in the sand and knows nothing about foreign relations or the terrorists he denies are out there trying to kill us.
that alone would make me not vote for him. He would get us all massacred.
You're view of Ron Paul is clearly inaccurate if you think he denies that there are terrorists who'd like to kill us. Do some more research.
Campaign For Liberty — Home
That would be a good start.
dude, he may not deny there are terrorists but he wants to just cancel the war on terror and let them win. That is dangerous. sure I haven't read much more of his politics but that is a fatal flaw for a candidate in my view. Therefore the rest of his politics are irrelevant if we don't live long enought to see his reforms play out.
So we have to let more Americans die and waste how many more trillions of dollars just so we can "win" a war that can't be won? Terrorism is a tactic, you can't wage a war against a tactic. Al-Qaeda isn't capable of destroying the United States, they have no air-force and no navy. It's possible that we could be attacked, 9/11 showed that we're not invulnerable. However, we could be attacked by Americans as well, Timothy McVeigh comes to mind. We've been 7 - 8 years in Afghanistan and we haven't found bin-Laden, and that situation is not likely to change in the near future. It's time to stop trying to "save face," and let our troops come home to their families and friends.
Ok, I just found out all I need to know from one google search. Any nitwit who says that the war on terror is a bad idea, has his head in the sand and knows nothing about foreign relations or the terrorists he denies are out there trying to kill us.
that alone would make me not vote for him. He would get us all massacred.
15 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. NONE of them were from Iraq. Bush's answer was to pull our troups out of Saudi Arabia and attack Iraq. He's made things much worse, not better. And the whole time our soldiers are out there fighting for no bid contracts for companies like Halliburton on our dime, our borders are unprotected. More and more things like Islamic prayer rugs are being found in the desert on our southern border. we've arrested hundreds of muslims crossing our southern border, How many got across?