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what made him such a dishonest guy then?
Well he lied saying that the Union predated the individual states, and that the states did not have the right to leave the voluntary Union setup by the founders. Then he stated that there would be no invasion of the south so long as they payed their tribute to the federal government, then refusing to be diplomatic towards the Confederacy. Then he instigated the incident at Fort Sumter by trying to re-supply it when he knew that the south wasn't going to let that happen.
Any guy who walks six miles back to the shop just to return 5 cents incorrect extra change(a lot back then) and propogates a war to exterminate slavery deserves the benefit of my doubt.
Well he lied saying that the Union predated the individual states, and that the states did not have the right to leave the voluntary Union setup by the founders. Then he stated that there would be no invasion of the south so long as they payed their tribute to the federal government, then refusing to be diplomatic towards the Confederacy. Then he instigated the incident at Fort Sumter by trying to re-supply it when he knew that the south wasn't going to let that happen.
Any guy who walks six miles back to the shop just to return 5 cents incorrect extra change(a lot back then) and propogates a war to exterminate slavery deserves the benefit of my doubt.
Lincoln didn't start the war between the states to end slavery, it was just another way to hurt the south. Lincoln started the war to force the southern states back into the Union so that they could pay their tribute to the federal government. In the process he destroyed the system of federalism that our founders gave us, did away with freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution (which he swore an oath to defend, in other words he lied), and allowed for the murder, pillaging, and raping of thousands of southern civilians and slaves at the hands of Union troops.
Any guy who walks six miles back to the shop just to return 5 cents incorrect extra change(a lot back then) and propogates a war to exterminate slavery deserves the benefit of my doubt.
Lincoln didn't start the war between the states to end slavery, it was just another way to hurt the south. Lincoln started the war to force the southern states back into the Union so that they could pay their tribute to the federal government. In the process he destroyed the system of federalism that our founders gave us, did away with freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution (which he swore an oath to defend, in other words he lied), and allowed for the murder, pillaging, and raping of thousands of southern civilians and slaves at the hands of Union troops.
Well, I'd like to see your sources for one. and for the other I will state that it wasn't one reason why the war started but slavery was definitely a marquee reason. And if you want to talk about defending rights and freedoms, wouldn't freeing the slaves come under that description? As for raping of southern victims by northern troops I would really like to see some evidence of that. Even if those atrocities existed I believe they were a few rogues soldiers who are not representative of the union forces.
Lemme guess, you are from the South?
Reagan still way, WAY ahead.
This is wonderful.
Lincoln didn't start the war between the states to end slavery, it was just another way to hurt the south. Lincoln started the war to force the southern states back into the Union so that they could pay their tribute to the federal government. In the process he destroyed the system of federalism that our founders gave us, did away with freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution (which he swore an oath to defend, in other words he lied), and allowed for the murder, pillaging, and raping of thousands of southern civilians and slaves at the hands of Union troops.
Well, I'd like to see your sources for one. and for the other I will state that it wasn't one reason why the war started but slavery was definitely a marquee reason. And if you want to talk about defending rights and freedoms, wouldn't freeing the slaves come under that description? As for raping of southern victims by northern troops I would really like to see some evidence of that. Even if those atrocities existed I believe they were a few rogues soldiers who are not representative of the union forces.
Lemme guess, you are from the South?
I'm from northeast Ohio and have always lived here, so I am from the north. Slavery was not a reason that Lincoln decided to go to war, he had no problem with slavery and even supported an amendment to the Constitution that would have made slavery permanent where it already existed. Sherman's march through the south was not a "few rogue soldiers." They were sent by Lincoln, and given the thanks of the nation from Lincoln for burning southern cities to the ground, murdering innocent civilians and slaves, and raping southern women.
My sources are:
The Real Lincoln by Thomas J. DiLorenzo
Lincoln Unmasked by Thomas J. DiLorenzo
War Crimes Against Southern Civilians by Walter Brian Cisco
King Lincoln Archive
That's a huge archive of Lincoln articles that may tickle your fancy.
As for most of Lincoln's crimes, you don't have to search very hard for them. Most people know that he suspended Constitutional rights in the north, was a racist who wanted to send black people out of the country, committed war crimes against southern civilians and slaves. They simply rationalize them away, because, after all, it's Father Abraham.
I'm going with JFK, for the simple fact he was going to strip the federal reserve of their power to print our money, so they had him killed and all of the new currency pulled out of circulation. President John F.Kennedy, The Federal Reserve And Executive Order 11110
John-F-Kennedy.net - JFK, The Federal Reserve And Executive Order 11110 by Cedric X
Well, I'd like to see your sources for one. and for the other I will state that it wasn't one reason why the war started but slavery was definitely a marquee reason. And if you want to talk about defending rights and freedoms, wouldn't freeing the slaves come under that description? As for raping of southern victims by northern troops I would really like to see some evidence of that. Even if those atrocities existed I believe they were a few rogues soldiers who are not representative of the union forces.
Lemme guess, you are from the South?
I'm from northeast Ohio and have always lived here, so I am from the north. Slavery was not a reason that Lincoln decided to go to war, he had no problem with slavery and even supported an amendment to the Constitution that would have made slavery permanent where it already existed. Sherman's march through the south was not a "few rogue soldiers." They were sent by Lincoln, and given the thanks of the nation from Lincoln for burning southern cities to the ground, murdering innocent civilians and slaves, and raping southern women.
My sources are:
The Real Lincoln by Thomas J. DiLorenzo
Lincoln Unmasked by Thomas J. DiLorenzo
War Crimes Against Southern Civilians by Walter Brian Cisco
King Lincoln Archive
That's a huge archive of Lincoln articles that may tickle your fancy.
As for most of Lincoln's crimes, you don't have to search very hard for them. Most people know that he suspended Constitutional rights in the north, was a racist who wanted to send black people out of the country, committed war crimes against southern civilians and slaves. They simply rationalize them away, because, after all, it's Father Abraham.
Ok, I am gonna read these articles and see for myself if there is any real substance. It will take me a while to read them but I have a hunch there is something fishy going on with all this anti Lincoln jargon.
Out of those I would choose George Washington
George Washington all day long. He know how to abide by the Constitution. And he didn't let the power go to his head. This man could have been the first king of the United States. At least the president for a long long time.
George Washington all the way. I agree. He would have stayed strictly to our constitution which at this point would help ever aspect of our country. We have fallen a long way.
I'm from northeast Ohio and have always lived here, so I am from the north. Slavery was not a reason that Lincoln decided to go to war, he had no problem with slavery and even supported an amendment to the Constitution that would have made slavery permanent where it already existed. Sherman's march through the south was not a "few rogue soldiers." They were sent by Lincoln, and given the thanks of the nation from Lincoln for burning southern cities to the ground, murdering innocent civilians and slaves, and raping southern women.
My sources are:
The Real Lincoln by Thomas J. DiLorenzo
Lincoln Unmasked by Thomas J. DiLorenzo
War Crimes Against Southern Civilians by Walter Brian Cisco
King Lincoln Archive
That's a huge archive of Lincoln articles that may tickle your fancy.
As for most of Lincoln's crimes, you don't have to search very hard for them. Most people know that he suspended Constitutional rights in the north, was a racist who wanted to send black people out of the country, committed war crimes against southern civilians and slaves. They simply rationalize them away, because, after all, it's Father Abraham.
Ok, I am gonna read these articles and see for myself if there is any real substance. It will take me a while to read them but I have a hunch there is something fishy going on with all this anti Lincoln jargon.
Any thoughts on Lincoln's tyranny?
