White Privilege

[Iceman]

Just because you refuse to see something as being a privilege doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

The rich kid who gets a car for his birthday doesnt see the car as privileged. Just sees it as his life.

So when some white kid gets a slap on the wrist they believe thats just how it is. When a black person commits the same crime and gets a harsher sentence that highlights white privilege. But white people either dont hear about the blacks getting harsher sentences or they refuse to believe that happens...and they have to deny it in order to continue to believe there isnt any privilege

Ok. So you are saying the legal system is racist, that that is a privilege for White people.

What proof do you have races get different sentencing for the same crimes?

 

[Iceman]

Majority and privilege are two diff things.

This whole kerfuffle is over privilege. Has nothing to do with Majority at all.

There is no such thing as white privilege. It was invented as a basis for imposing white guilt and telling white people that they are not entitled to what they worked for.

Sure it isnt! If you say it and click your heels it may even come true

You haven't even said what the privilege is, not really. You made some vague claim to racism in criminal sentencing, that is it.

I have never gotten a straight answer on what the privilege is, just that it is supposedly obvious to see and I don't deserve an answer. I don't buy that. If they had a good answer, I am sure they would relish in owning a right wing racist like myself.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Just because you refuse to see something as being a privilege doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

The rich kid who gets a car for his birthday doesnt see the car as privileged. Just sees it as his life.

So when some white kid gets a slap on the wrist they believe thats just how it is. When a black person commits the same crime and gets a harsher sentence that highlights white privilege. But white people either dont hear about the blacks getting harsher sentences or they refuse to believe that happens...and they have to deny it in order to continue to believe there isnt any privilege

Ok. So you are saying the legal system is racist, that that is a privilege for White people.

What proof do you have races get different sentencing for the same crimes?

Great question and one thats been asked every time this thread comes up. Surprisingly tho, after the proof is requested and delivered white people often forget the information very quickly (weird) or they see the proof they asked for then choose to not believe it. So here it is. I dont expect you to believe it and would encourage you to search on your own but you wont because honestly you dont care if its true of not

White people believe the justice system is color blind. Black people really don?t.

Racial disparities in sentencing rise after guidelines loosened | Courts & Crime | McClatchy DC

For years, legal experts have argued over the disparity in sentencing between black and white men. The commission found that the difference peaked in 1999 with blacks receiving 14 percent longer sentences. By 2002, however, the commission found no statistical difference.

After the Booker decision, "those differences appear to have been increasing steadily," with black men receiving sentences that were up to 10 percent longer than those imposed on whites, the commission said.

Using another method of analyzing the data, the study found black men received sentences that were 23 percent longer than white men's.

Hispanic men, meanwhile, received sentences that were almost 7 percent longer than white men's. Immigrants also got longer sentences than U.S. citizens did.

Read more here: Racial disparities in sentencing rise after guidelines loosened | Courts & Crime | McClatchy DC

Now you are free to force forget you ever saw this like everyone else does when the topic comes up

 

[Unkotare]

If you dont [sic] know then you shouldnt [sic] be in this convo [sic].

If you can't tell me what you think it is, you shouldn't be spouting off.

If I cant tell you what it is you need a tutor.

What is the Jewish Community?

Answer: its the same as the black community except the players are different.

I hope that helps

A direct answer would help.

 

[Luissa]

So daddy taught ya white guilt and how to self-loath...

It's not guilt or self loathing, it's realizing you have some advantages being a white male and not being arrogant about it.

What advantages are those, exactly?

Higher pay, more likely to be in manAgement/executive, much more likely to get the job period, pay less for a car, less likely to get pulled over.
Do you want me to go on?

You asking that question proves my point. Don't be arrogant about it.
And don't pretend there is no advantage. It's disrespectful.


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[ClosedCaption]

If you can't tell me what you think it is, you shouldn't be spouting off.

If I cant tell you what it is you need a tutor.

What is the Jewish Community?

Answer: its the same as the black community except the players are different.

I hope that helps

A direct answer would help.

A direct answer would be awesome!

Is there a Jewish Community? Yes or No

Are you confused by its existence? Yes or no

 

[ClosedCaption]

It's not guilt or self loathing, it's realizing you have some advantages being a white male and not being arrogant about it.

What advantages are those, exactly?

Higher pay, more likely to be in manAgement/executive, much more likely to get the job period, pay less for a car, less likely to get pulled over.
Do you want me to go on?

You asking that question proves my point. Don't be arrogant about it.
And don't pretend there is no advantage. It's disrespectful.


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Really he just wants you to name specific things so he can knock them down individually. For example: "I'm not a Manager! I work hard no one has helped me!...I get pulled over sometimes I even know someone who went to jail for a night!...My Jag is expensive!!!"

 

[Iceman]

Just because you refuse to see something as being a privilege doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

The rich kid who gets a car for his birthday doesnt see the car as privileged. Just sees it as his life.

So when some white kid gets a slap on the wrist they believe thats just how it is. When a black person commits the same crime and gets a harsher sentence that highlights white privilege. But white people either dont hear about the blacks getting harsher sentences or they refuse to believe that happens...and they have to deny it in order to continue to believe there isnt any privilege

Ok. So you are saying the legal system is racist, that that is a privilege for White people.

What proof do you have races get different sentencing for the same crimes?

Great question and one thats been asked every time this thread comes up. Surprisingly tho, after the proof is requested and delivered white people often forget the information very quickly (weird) or they see the proof they asked for then choose to not believe it. So here it is. I dont expect you to believe it and would encourage you to search on your own but you wont because honestly you dont care if its true of not

White people believe the justice system is color blind. Black people really don?t.

Racial disparities in sentencing rise after guidelines loosened | Courts & Crime | McClatchy DC

For years, legal experts have argued over the disparity in sentencing between black and white men. The commission found that the difference peaked in 1999 with blacks receiving 14 percent longer sentences. By 2002, however, the commission found no statistical difference.

After the Booker decision, "those differences appear to have been increasing steadily," with black men receiving sentences that were up to 10 percent longer than those imposed on whites, the commission said.

Using another method of analyzing the data, the study found black men received sentences that were 23 percent longer than white men's.

Hispanic men, meanwhile, received sentences that were almost 7 percent longer than white men's. Immigrants also got longer sentences than U.S. citizens did.

Read more here: Racial disparities in sentencing rise after guidelines loosened | Courts & Crime | McClatchy DC

Now you are free to force forget you ever saw this like everyone else does when the topic comes up

Ok, well the first link is based on opinion, so we can scratch that. So at the start you are not making a very convincing argument. Your first argument is that perception is reality. That is more of a philosophical debate, but for your claim it provides no hard data or proof.

You didn't even really read your article, the second link, if I may quote:
" 'Judges make decisions when sentencing offenders based on many legal and other legitimate considerations that are not or cannot be measured," said the commission, an independent body of the federal judiciary. "The analysis presented in this report cannot explain why the observed differences in sentence length exist but only that they do exist.'

For example, a judge who's sentencing two offenders who were convicted of similar crimes might impose a longer sentence on the offender with a more violent criminal past, information that wasn't available to the study's authors."

So the statistic you provided doesn't account for repeat offenders or the criminal past of those sentenced. So in short, you are offering us nothing but conjecture.

 

[Againsheila]

It's not guilt or self loathing, it's realizing you have some advantages being a white male and not being arrogant about it.

What advantages are those, exactly?

Higher pay, more likely to be in manAgement/executive, much more likely to get the job period, pay less for a car, less likely to get pulled over.
Do you want me to go on?

You asking that question proves my point. Don't be arrogant about it.
And don't pretend there is no advantage. It's disrespectful.


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Well someone said whites were more likely to be let off with a warning. I've been stopped for speeding twice and both times I've received a ticket. Once, I probably should have fought it as speeding is okay when you are trying to pass someone. The time before that my car's speedometer didn't work. Cops weren't interested in any excuses, they just ticketed me.

At work, they hired a black woman into the upwardly mobile position instead of me. When the computer specialist wanted an assistant, he wanted me but the commander wanted Tony, the black man everyone liked. Because Tony hadn't taken the test and I had, instead of giving the computer specialist an assistant, they hired him someone to fight with, another full time computer specialist. He was not a happy camper, nor was I. And before you claim I was incompetent, I was told to my face they'd never hire me into a better position because no one could do my job as well as I did, strangely enough, they hired an incompetent black woman to replace me and they had to dumb the job down for her until it was just sorting mail. They hired her as a temporary while I was pregnant and when I decided not to come back, she threatened a lawsuit if they didn't hire her permanently and they didn't want that. Stupid cowards.


So you'll just have to forgive me if I don't think I have some sort of "advantage" over blacks.


Note: I do not mean to insinuate in any way shape or form that all blacks are incompetent; Tony was great, he just hadn't taken the test. My nieces and my nephew are black and they are anything but incompetent.

 

[Unkotare]

If I cant tell you what it is you need a tutor.

What is the Jewish Community?

Answer: its the same as the black community except the players are different.

I hope that helps

A direct answer would help.

A direct answer would be awesome!

Is there a Jewish Community? Yes or No

Are you confused by its existence? Yes or no

Don't answer a question with a question. I asked first. You can't do it, can you?

 

[ClosedCaption]

A direct answer would help.

A direct answer would be awesome!

Is there a Jewish Community? Yes or No

Are you confused by its existence? Yes or no

Don't answer a question with a question. I asked first. You can't do it, can you?

The black community is a community of blacks. Still confused?

 

[Unkotare]

A direct answer would be awesome!

Is there a Jewish Community? Yes or No

Are you confused by its existence? Yes or no

Don't answer a question with a question. I asked first. You can't do it, can you?

The black community is a community of blacks. Still confused?

Yes. Are you saying that everyone with the same skin tone is the same? Thinks the same, lives the same, has the same personal circumstances?

 

[ClosedCaption]

Don't answer a question with a question. I asked first. You can't do it, can you?

The black community is a community of blacks. Still confused?

Yes. Are you saying that everyone with the same skin tone is the same? Thinks the same, lives the same, has the same personal circumstances?

Sorry bud. Your turn:
Is there a Jewish Community? Yes or No

Are you confused by its existence? Yes or no

 

[Unkotare]

The black community is a community of blacks. Still confused?

Yes. Are you saying that everyone with the same skin tone is the same? Thinks the same, lives the same, has the same personal circumstances?

Sorry bud. Your turn:

Your turn isn't done yet. Why are you trying so hard to avoid it?

 

[ClosedCaption]

You dont play fair but thats your M.O.

 

[ClosedCaption]

 

[Unkotare]

You dont play fair but thats your M.O.

You kinda wish you hadn't shot your mouth off in the first place, huh?

 

[American_Jihad]

Melissa Harris-Perry’s war on rich white men​

Lloyd Marcus
12/12/13


On Sunday, MSNBC host Melissa Harris-Perry made the accusation that the word Obamacare is similar to using the n-word.

It’s a laughable claim. But why is she making it? Because, as a political science professor with a focus on race, she’s qualified to interpret these things and just thought you should know? Or is it an obvious, weak attempt to distance the president from Obamacare, which is wreaking havoc on the lives of millions of Americans who are losing their health care?

What I found most disturbing and what I wish to focus on is Perry’s evil attempt to gin up hate against “wealthy white men” who she claims created the term Obamacare to demean and undermine a black president.

...


Perry’s specific term, “wealthy white men,” was insidiously strategic. Low-info blacks in my family along with blacks across America will believe Perry’s nonsense to be the gospel truth. With the wave of black flashmob violence and the rising incidents of the racially motivated knockout game, the last thing we need as a nation is another black TV celeb promoting a racially-charged false narrative.

Democrats and liberals like Perry have been promoting the same irresponsible, divisive and racist false narrative for decades. They claim that all evil in the world is the fault of racist, greedy, sexist and evil wealthy white men usually identified as conservative Republicans.

...


Who is out there giving rich white men props for their many positive contributions to society? Where are their advocates? I am sure with me being an American black man, liberals think it unconscionable that I would suggest such a thing. It would elevate me to “super” Uncle Tom status.


Read more: Melissa Harris-Perry's war on rich white men | The Daily Caller

 

[American_Jihad]

Jennifer Pennington: 'Understanding white privilege is a critical component'

By Sheila Regan, TC Daily Planet
December 18, 2013

Jennifer Pennington works for the Minnesota Council of Foundations. When we asked for people to tell us about their experience with classroom discussions of structural racism, here's what she told us:


..What is structural racism?

Structural racism privileges one group over others while also supporting discriminatory systems and policies.

...

How do people in university settings discuss it?

As a student, we discussed and looked at definitions of individual racism and of structural racism (also called institutional racism). We saw how structural racism could be built up over time. For example, in regards to housing, there was a 100 year period of policies - everything from restrictive covenants to red lining to predatory lending - that created a system that privileged whites and excluded people of color. This had many effects including the effect of whites building up more wealth over time because they were given better access to and opportunities for home ownership.

[The democrats tried to fix it and caused the 07/08 financial debacle]

...

Jennifer Pennington: 'Understanding white privilege is a critical component' | Twin Cities Daily Planet

 

[ConquestCortez]

Alright this is the most ignorant shit I have ever heard.

"White Privilege"? What are you, f**king Hitler?

Sounds like more Fascist talk if I ever heard it.

Dividing any people along any lines and saying one side is oppressors and one side isn't is just complete bullshit. Hitler did it and we all know what kind of man Hitler was. He was a very smart one, and he also advanced the German people decades beyond any other country by the end of world war 2 in terms of economic prosperity, and scientific development. It was only because Einstein had decided to come work in the U.S. because of World War 1 along with many other German and Soviet Scientists that america developed the A-Bomb first.

But at what cost?

Hitler scapegoated the jews and rose to power carrying Germany along with him only by throwing the Jews as a population completely under the bus.

Then, Germany got buttf**ked, for a SECOND time.

Haven't we seen what the division of a group can do when you label one side good and one side bad?

Dam man. This is like Nazi Germany all over again but now people are trying to make it about National Racism as opposed to National Socialism.

Reverse Racism is still Racism.

Check your Black Privilege, why don't you?