Which is better for the economy: Infrastruction or gifts to the wealthy?

[RealDave]

El Cheeto said he wants to spend a trillion dollars on infrastructure.

A proven way to boost the economy by spreading money to factories & Middle Class workers while giving America improved bridges, highways, airports, water & sewer systems, electrical grid, etc. The big question was how to pay for it.

Well The Republicans & Trump just spent a trillion dollars to give money to the wealthy & profitable corporations. A proven piss poor way to boost the economy.

We know exactly what Republicans do - kiss the ass of their donors while fucking over the American people.

Let us not forget that when George W Bush took office we had a balanced budget. The CBO said we are on track to pay down the debt. Then came the series of unfunded tax cuts.

We were on a path of reducing the deficits with steady economic growth & a long string pf positive monthly job gains.

We already saw that string of job gains ended. Now the Republicans , who can't fricken learn, repeat the tax cut approach.

Yep, those Republicans just passed a bill that put us on a path to yet another conomic disaster. Thewreathy will survive just fine like they did with the Bush recession. We wuill ge fucked once again. Jobs lost, homes lost, opportunities gone for our chuldren.

For what? Those that elect Republicas are justy plasin assholes & contributors.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

The class envy thing really isn't working for you guys anymore. Americans want prosperity. Infrastructure improves with prosperity.

 

[Auld Phart]

infrastruction?

 

[WinterBorn]

This tax plan is not about what is best for the economy or what is best for the majority of the citizens.

This is all about what is best for the politicians and the people who pay for them.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

El Cheeto said he wants to spend a trillion dollars on infrastructure.

A proven way to boost the economy by spreading money to factories & Middle Class workers while giving America improved bridges, highways, airports, water & sewer systems, electrical grid, etc. The big question was how to pay for it.

Well The Republicans & Trump just spent a trillion dollars to give money to the wealthy & profitable corporations. A proven piss poor way to boost the economy.

We know exactly what Republicans do - kiss the ass of their donors while fucking over the American people.

Let us not forget that when George W Bush took office we had a balanced budget. The CBO said we are on track to pay down the debt. Then came the series of unfunded tax cuts.

We were on a path of reducing the deficits with steady economic growth & a long string pf positive monthly job gains.

We already saw that string of job gains ended. Now the Republicans , who can't fricken learn, repeat the tax cut approach.

Yep, those Republicans just passed a bill that put us on a path to yet another conomic disaster. Thewreathy will survive just fine like they did with the Bush recession. We wuill ge fucked once again. Jobs lost, homes lost, opportunities gone for our chuldren.

For what? Those that elect Republicas are justy plasin assholes & contributors.

Well The Republicans & Trump just spent a trillion dollars to give money to the wealthy & profitable corporations. A proven piss poor way to boost the economy.

How much did Obama give to the poor & unprofitable corporations?
His weak recovery showed he had a piss poor way to boost the economy.

Let us not forget that when George W Bush took office we had a balanced budget.

Yeah, the Internet Bubble was cool.
Can you see when it started deflating?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

This tax plan is not about what is best for the economy or what is best for the majority of the citizens.

This is all about what is best for the politicians and the people who pay for them.

And if it works for the economy and the majority of the citizens, Dems will lose a handful of seats in the Senate and Trump will get re-elected. If not, he'll lose to the corrupt old sot or an angry Commie in 2020.

 

[deannalw]

Pretty sure infrastruction is a brand new made up word.

 

[Auld Phart]

Pretty sure infrastuction is a brand new made up word.

much like the rest of his OP

 

[Defiant1]

"Gifts" to the wealthy.

Amazing to call the ability to keep more of one's own money a gift.

 

[RealDave]

El Cheeto said he wants to spend a trillion dollars on infrastructure.

A proven way to boost the economy by spreading money to factories & Middle Class workers while giving America improved bridges, highways, airports, water & sewer systems, electrical grid, etc. The big question was how to pay for it.

Well The Republicans & Trump just spent a trillion dollars to give money to the wealthy & profitable corporations. A proven piss poor way to boost the economy.

We know exactly what Republicans do - kiss the ass of their donors while fucking over the American people.

Let us not forget that when George W Bush took office we had a balanced budget. The CBO said we are on track to pay down the debt. Then came the series of unfunded tax cuts.

We were on a path of reducing the deficits with steady economic growth & a long string pf positive monthly job gains.

We already saw that string of job gains ended. Now the Republicans , who can't fricken learn, repeat the tax cut approach.

Yep, those Republicans just passed a bill that put us on a path to yet another conomic disaster. Thewreathy will survive just fine like they did with the Bush recession. We wuill ge fucked once again. Jobs lost, homes lost, opportunities gone for our chuldren.

For what? Those that elect Republicas are justy plasin assholes & contributors.

Well The Republicans & Trump just spent a trillion dollars to give money to the wealthy & profitable corporations. A proven piss poor way to boost the economy.

How much did Obama give to the poor & unprofitable corporations?
His weak recovery showed he had a piss poor way to boost the economy.

Let us not forget that when George W Bush took office we had a balanced budget.

Yeah, the Internet Bubble was cool.
Can you see when it started deflating?

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We had a balanced budget. Period. What changed? Tax cut after tax cut at a time of war. All unfunded. You can pull out excuse after excuse but the actions taken by Republicans drove us down the path towards recession.

Everyone who knows anything about economics knows that putting money in the hands of people that will spend it. That is what Obama did with the stimulus bill. A bill that was 38% tax breaks & tax cuts. Directed at working Americans.

What money was given to unprofitable corporations?

But hey, you think we should only give money to corporations that don't need it and pile it on to those thast donlt? Really? And you claim to know economics?

 

[DigitalDrifter]

This is typical of Dimocrats like the OP:

"give money to the wealthy & profitable corporations"

The government is not "giving" anyone anything. The money starts with the people who create the wealth. It's the people who "give" money to the government.
A tax cut, means you "give" less of YOUR money to the government.

 

[RealDave]

The class envy thing really isn't working for you guys anymore. Americans want prosperity. Infrastructure improves with prosperity.

Who knew our infrastructure was in great shape ion 2006.

It has nothing to do with class envy. It's called economics.

 

[WinterBorn]

"Gifts" to the wealthy.

Amazing to call the ability to keep more of one's own money a gift.

This would be fine if there weren't so many deduction repealed that helped far more people.

For example, if my employer gives me a choice of relocate or lose my job, I cannot deduct the moving expenses. But if a company relocates their business overseas, they can deduct their moving expenses.

So many things screwed the people who can least afford to be screwed.

 

[WinterBorn]

This is typical of Dimocrats like the OP:

"give money to the wealthy & profitable corporations"

The government is not "giving" anyone anything. The money starts with the people who create the wealth. It's the people who "give" money to the government.
A tax cut, means you "give" less of YOUR money to the government.

And what do you call it when you repeal or remove a lot of deductions used by the middle class while adding to the deductions used by the rich?

 

[RealDave]

This is typical of Dimocrats like the OP:

"give money to the wealthy & profitable corporations"

The government is not "giving" anyone anything. The money starts with the people who create the wealth. It's the people who "give" money to the government.
A tax cut, means you "give" less of YOUR money to the government.

Not this stupid argument again.

A company has 1 million in profits. Assume they pay the full rate.

Before tax cuts they would pay $350K

After Tax cuts they would pay $200K.

They now have $150K more due to the tax cut bill.

That is giving them $150K.

So quit playing semantics.

 

[RealDave]

"Gifts" to the wealthy.

Amazing to call the ability to keep more of one's own money a gift.

Discount or rebate.

The results are the same.

You people will do anything to defend giving money to rich people at your own expense.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

El Cheeto said he wants to spend a trillion dollars on infrastructure.

A proven way to boost the economy by spreading money to factories & Middle Class workers while giving America improved bridges, highways, airports, water & sewer systems, electrical grid, etc. The big question was how to pay for it.

Well The Republicans & Trump just spent a trillion dollars to give money to the wealthy & profitable corporations. A proven piss poor way to boost the economy.

We know exactly what Republicans do - kiss the ass of their donors while fucking over the American people.

Let us not forget that when George W Bush took office we had a balanced budget. The CBO said we are on track to pay down the debt. Then came the series of unfunded tax cuts.

We were on a path of reducing the deficits with steady economic growth & a long string pf positive monthly job gains.

We already saw that string of job gains ended. Now the Republicans , who can't fricken learn, repeat the tax cut approach.

Yep, those Republicans just passed a bill that put us on a path to yet another conomic disaster. Thewreathy will survive just fine like they did with the Bush recession. We wuill ge fucked once again. Jobs lost, homes lost, opportunities gone for our chuldren.

For what? Those that elect Republicas are justy plasin assholes & contributors.

Well The Republicans & Trump just spent a trillion dollars to give money to the wealthy & profitable corporations. A proven piss poor way to boost the economy.

How much did Obama give to the poor & unprofitable corporations?
His weak recovery showed he had a piss poor way to boost the economy.

Let us not forget that when George W Bush took office we had a balanced budget.

Yeah, the Internet Bubble was cool.
Can you see when it started deflating?

View attachment 164079

We had a balanced budget. Period. What changed? Tax cut after tax cut at a time of war. All unfunded. You can pull out excuse after excuse but the actions taken by Republicans drove us down the path towards recession.

Everyone who knows anything about economics knows that putting money in the hands of people that will spend it. That is what Obama did with the stimulus bill. A bill that was 38% tax breaks & tax cuts. Directed at working Americans.

What money was given to unprofitable corporations?

But hey, you think we should only give money to corporations that don't need it and pile it on to those thast donlt? Really? And you claim to know economics?

We had a balanced budget. Period. What changed?

The Internet Bubble popped.
It was in all the papers.

You can pull out excuse after excuse but the actions taken by Republicans drove us down the path towards recession.​

The recession started in March 2001. What did they do to cause that?

http://www.nber.org/cycles.html
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Everyone who knows anything about economics knows that putting money in the hands of people that will spend it. ​

Or in the hands of people that will use it to start/expand business.
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What money was given to unprofitable corporations? ​

There were a bunch of unprofitable "green energy" companies that got money/loan guarantees.​

 

[RealDave]

Do you buttheads understand that every break the middle class get, the wealthy do too?

When you give those making 30K to 90K a 3% discount, Trump gets that same discount for the money he makes between 30K & 75K.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Do you buttheads understand that every break the middle class get, the wealthy do too?

When you give those making 30K to 90K a 3% discount, Trump gets that same discount for the money he makes between 30K & 75K.

Do you buttheads understand that every break the middle class get, the wealthy do too?

That's not true. Look at all the phase-outs in our tax code.

 

[Moonglow]

infrastruction?

Do you have a page number for reference?