When You Can’t Face Reality....

[Deplorable Yankee]

When You Can’t Face Reality...

you call yourself a progressive democratic socialist

Ive always wondered why does a blob of cells have a human heart beat that can be detected in just a few weeks?
is that why they went from blob to parasite ?


pretty much

theyre simplistically simpleminded simpletons

 

[gipper]

Most of us try not to think about abortion. Even the ones that have had one. I don't have any answers and neither does any of you. It's something we all have to wrestle with in our lives.

BS. The answer is abortion is murder. Murder is illegal. Hence it should never have been legal and should forever be ILLEGAL.

 

[kyzr]

View attachment 260664
Cuomo, Dolan, and Gosnell, doing God's work...

I truly doubt that they'll get the sarcasm.

It's hard to believe that Cuomo and Dolan are okay with infanticide?!
I'm also disappointed that Catholic bishops don't vigorously oppose abortions like the Evangelicals do!?
Maybe they're too busy covering up for pedophiles?

This is where we differ, bro.....and why I'm not optimistic about the future of Western Civilization.

Nothing matters any more.

To embrace tolerance is to cease to believe in anything. Chesterton

"There are control devices, and then there are control mechanisms" (Mr. Spock)

Whether you call it "politically incorrect", or "conscience", or "peer pressure", or "the thought police", or "sin", or "unlawful", or any other mechanism that's used to manage societal norms, its something controlling your behavior.

Western civilization always had pockets of "bad behavior". Today any bad behavior is instant global news. I think on the whole Western civilization is sound, in spite of black pits like Amsterdam, or San Francisco...
Amsterdam drug laws and etiquette
San Francisco - where drug addicts outnumber high school students

Is the drug problem "chlorine in the gene pool"? (stupid is as stupid does)

Similarly, is abortion keeping the prison population down? (I've seen studies)

As cold-blooded as this sounds, I'd rather see dead druggies than keep supporting them in prison.
Babies don't have a choice, so their moms make it for them...

 

[PoliticalChic]

9.” In progressive Pennsylvania, here was a doctor, Kermit Gosnell, an African-American, he’s in his early 70s now, who ran an abortion clinic for 30 years, where he routinely, and these are not my words, this is the grand jury’s words, where he routinely delivered babies alive and then cut their necks with scissors.

And he did this for 30 years. That’s why in the eyes of the grand jury and also ABC’s Terry Moran, he was described as America’s biggest serial killer,…”
The True Story of Kermit Gosnell and His Victims





“…in the Kermit Gosnell trial (which received very little media attention), eye-witnesses testified that babies were moving and breathing before their spinal cords were cut; others were flushed in toilets or were thrown in the garbage with a shoebox for a coffin--while still alive inside!
The fact is, babies can survive abortion attempts.

The CDC tells us that, between 2003-2014, at least 143 infants died after being born alive during an abortion procedure, and the report even admits that this number is underestimated.

That’s an average of one infant a month! According to the report, some of these infants hung on to life for more than 24 hours after the induced abortion before they died!”
What Happens to a Child Born-alive? The Media Won’t Tell Us.





Is it murder?

America’s greatest serial killer, Dr. Kermit Gosnell.

“Philadelphia Abortion Doctor Guilty of Murder in Late-Term Procedures” Philadelphia Abortion Doctor Guilty of Murder in Late-Term Procedures



Convicted of first degree murder, and now, everything that Gosnell was convicted of is legal in NY….

....thanks to Democrats.

 

[Moonglow]

4. There is no way to separate abortion from infanticide for this reason: what if a child is born as a result of an unsuccessful attempted abortion?

And, as several states now allow abortion up to the moment of birth,… “The state of New York recently passed a horrific new abortion law removing almost all previous restrictions. The law now allows abortions to be performed up to the point of natural birth by physicians and also by some non-physician health care practitioners. It also removes protections for babies who accidentally survive an abortion procedure.” New York abortion law changes allow infanticide


"7 states already allow abortion up to birth — not just New York"
7 states already allow abortion up to birth — not just New York





…..the result of what happens to that child is included here:

“The practice in some societies of killing unwanted children soon after birth.” infanticide | Definition of infanticide in English by Oxford Dictionaries



There is no dancing around it. It is infanticide.

Not by any legal definition..

 

[PoliticalChic]

View attachment 260664
Cuomo, Dolan, and Gosnell, doing God's work...

I truly doubt that they'll get the sarcasm.

It's hard to believe that Cuomo and Dolan are okay with infanticide?!
I'm also disappointed that Catholic bishops don't vigorously oppose abortions like the Evangelicals do!?
Maybe they're too busy covering up for pedophiles?

This is where we differ, bro.....and why I'm not optimistic about the future of Western Civilization.

Nothing matters any more.

To embrace tolerance is to cease to believe in anything. Chesterton

"There are control devices, and then there are control mechanisms" (Mr. Spock)

Whether you call it "politically incorrect", or "conscience", or "peer pressure", or "the thought police", or "sin", or "unlawful", or any other mechanism that's used to manage societal norms, its something controlling your behavior.

Western civilization always had pockets of "bad behavior". Today any bad behavior is instant global news. I think on the whole Western civilization is sound, in spite of black pits like Amsterdam, or San Francisco...
Amsterdam drug laws and etiquette
San Francisco - where drug addicts outnumber high school students

Is the drug problem "chlorine in the gene pool"? (stupid is as stupid does)

Similarly, is abortion keeping the prison population down? (I've seen studies)

As cold-blooded as this sounds, I'd rather see dead druggies than keep supporting them in prison.
Babies don't have a choice, so their moms make it for them...

I know I shouldn't let you drag me off into a different topic....but, it is interesting.

"Similarly, is abortion keeping the prison population down? (I've seen studies)

As cold-blooded as this sounds, I'd rather see dead druggies than keep supporting them in prison.
Babies don't have a choice, so their moms make it for them..."



First, why use a felon's drug habit as a reason to allow the slaughter of an innocent?
Second, how about we simply solve the drug problem:
Confiscate drugs as we arrest users.
Adulterate the drugs with chemicals that turn users green.
Recirculate the drugs via undercovers, and use the profits to support law enforcement.
Finally......we arrest all the green people.

Third, pass laws such as "Georgia governor Brian Kemp signed perhaps the most impressive and comprehensively pro-life “heartbeat bill” in the nation. The law (set to go into effect in 2020) not only bans abortion when the baby has a “detectable human heartbeat” it declares the scientific, philosophical, and theological truth that an unborn child is a “natural person” under state law."
Georgia Heartbeat Bill Won't Imprison Women Who Have Abortions | National Review

 

[kyzr]

View attachment 260664
Cuomo, Dolan, and Gosnell, doing God's work...

I truly doubt that they'll get the sarcasm.

It's hard to believe that Cuomo and Dolan are okay with infanticide?!
I'm also disappointed that Catholic bishops don't vigorously oppose abortions like the Evangelicals do!?
Maybe they're too busy covering up for pedophiles?

This is where we differ, bro.....and why I'm not optimistic about the future of Western Civilization.

Nothing matters any more.

To embrace tolerance is to cease to believe in anything. Chesterton

"There are control devices, and then there are control mechanisms" (Mr. Spock)

Whether you call it "politically incorrect", or "conscience", or "peer pressure", or "the thought police", or "sin", or "unlawful", or any other mechanism that's used to manage societal norms, its something controlling your behavior.

Western civilization always had pockets of "bad behavior". Today any bad behavior is instant global news. I think on the whole Western civilization is sound, in spite of black pits like Amsterdam, or San Francisco...
Amsterdam drug laws and etiquette
San Francisco - where drug addicts outnumber high school students

Is the drug problem "chlorine in the gene pool"? (stupid is as stupid does)

Similarly, is abortion keeping the prison population down? (I've seen studies)

As cold-blooded as this sounds, I'd rather see dead druggies than keep supporting them in prison.
Babies don't have a choice, so their moms make it for them...

I know I shouldn't let you drag me off into a different topic....but, it is interesting.

"Similarly, is abortion keeping the prison population down? (I've seen studies)

As cold-blooded as this sounds, I'd rather see dead druggies than keep supporting them in prison.
Babies don't have a choice, so their moms make it for them..."

First, why use a felon's drug habit as a reason to allow the slaughter of an innocent?
Second, how about we simply solve the drug problem:
Confiscate drugs as we arrest users.
Adulterate the drugs with chemicals that turn users green.
Recirculate the drugs via undercovers, and use the profits to support law enforcement.
Finally......we arrest all the green people.

Third, pass laws such as "Georgia governor Brian Kemp signed perhaps the most impressive and comprehensively pro-life “heartbeat bill” in the nation. The law (set to go into effect in 2020) not only bans abortion when the baby has a “detectable human heartbeat” it declares the scientific, philosophical, and theological truth that an unborn child is a “natural person” under state law."
Georgia Heartbeat Bill Won't Imprison Women Who Have Abortions | National Review

First, my point was that unwanted babies, or those born into low-life homes generally end up in prison. Nothing to do with a "felon's drug habit". Who takes care of those 600,000 un-aborted babies a year?

Second, drugs can never be removed, they are all over and come into the US from everywhere. Can drugs be used to advantage to eliminate bad segments, such as by allowing fentanyl to be used, i.e, stupid is as stupid does, aka "chlorine in the gene pool"?

Third, philosophically agree with the GA heartbeat Bill, but then what do you do with the 600,000 un-aborted babies a year?
Abortion statistics in the United States - Wikipedia

 

[PoliticalChic]

I truly doubt that they'll get the sarcasm.

It's hard to believe that Cuomo and Dolan are okay with infanticide?!
I'm also disappointed that Catholic bishops don't vigorously oppose abortions like the Evangelicals do!?
Maybe they're too busy covering up for pedophiles?

This is where we differ, bro.....and why I'm not optimistic about the future of Western Civilization.

Nothing matters any more.

To embrace tolerance is to cease to believe in anything. Chesterton

"There are control devices, and then there are control mechanisms" (Mr. Spock)

Whether you call it "politically incorrect", or "conscience", or "peer pressure", or "the thought police", or "sin", or "unlawful", or any other mechanism that's used to manage societal norms, its something controlling your behavior.

Western civilization always had pockets of "bad behavior". Today any bad behavior is instant global news. I think on the whole Western civilization is sound, in spite of black pits like Amsterdam, or San Francisco...
Amsterdam drug laws and etiquette
San Francisco - where drug addicts outnumber high school students

Is the drug problem "chlorine in the gene pool"? (stupid is as stupid does)

Similarly, is abortion keeping the prison population down? (I've seen studies)

As cold-blooded as this sounds, I'd rather see dead druggies than keep supporting them in prison.
Babies don't have a choice, so their moms make it for them...

I know I shouldn't let you drag me off into a different topic....but, it is interesting.

"Similarly, is abortion keeping the prison population down? (I've seen studies)

As cold-blooded as this sounds, I'd rather see dead druggies than keep supporting them in prison.
Babies don't have a choice, so their moms make it for them..."

First, why use a felon's drug habit as a reason to allow the slaughter of an innocent?
Second, how about we simply solve the drug problem:
Confiscate drugs as we arrest users.
Adulterate the drugs with chemicals that turn users green.
Recirculate the drugs via undercovers, and use the profits to support law enforcement.
Finally......we arrest all the green people.

Third, pass laws such as "Georgia governor Brian Kemp signed perhaps the most impressive and comprehensively pro-life “heartbeat bill” in the nation. The law (set to go into effect in 2020) not only bans abortion when the baby has a “detectable human heartbeat” it declares the scientific, philosophical, and theological truth that an unborn child is a “natural person” under state law."
Georgia Heartbeat Bill Won't Imprison Women Who Have Abortions | National Review

First, my point was that unwanted babies, or those born into low-life homes generally end up in prison. Nothing to do with a "felon's drug habit". Who takes care of those 600,000 un-aborted babies a year?

Second, drugs can never be removed, they are all over and come into the US from everywhere. Can drugs be used to advantage to eliminate bad segments, such as by allowing fentanyl to be used, i.e, stupid is as stupid does, aka "chlorine in the gene pool".

Third, philosophically agree with the GA heartbeat Bill, but then what do you do with the 600,000 un-aborted babies a year?
Abortion statistics in the United States - Wikipedia

Let's not do what the bureaucrats do, and imagine that events are static when, most human behavior is dynamic.

If individuals knew that abortion as birth control would not be available, there would not be 600,000 such babies.

It's not as though the participants don't know how the baby came to be.

 

[PoliticalChic]

10. “When babies survive abortion, they will be either intentionally kept alive or intentionally put to death. There’s no in-between.….Congress needs to pass the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, which would add enforcement mechanisms to prosecute doctors who deny life-saving medical care to infants who survive abortion - putting an end to birth day abortions.” What Happens to a Child Born-alive? The Media Won’t Tell Us.




11. To prove that the Democrats are the assassins, the Republicans have a plan to make them reveal it:

"Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE) introduced the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, which would provide medical care to babies born after botched abortions. Doctors would be required to provide medical care to a baby who survived an abortion, just as they would with any other patient. If doctors failed to provide care he or she would face criminal charges.
"I want to ask each and every one of my colleagues whether or not we're OK with infanticide," Sasse asked his colleagues.

But when the bill came to the Senate floor for a vote on Monday, Democrats filibustered."
Disgusting: Dems Prove, Once Again, They Support Infanticide With Their Latest Filibuster



Filibustered to defeat the proposal….exactly what the Democrats did to stop the attempts by the Republicans to get the vote for women (1919) and the same ploy the Democrats used to block every anti-lynching law (1920-1940).





"...all six Democrats running for president in 2020 voted against the bill. The list includes Sens. Cory Booker (NJ), Sherrod Brown (OH), Kirsten Gillibrand (NY), Kamala Harris (CA.), Amy Klobuchar (MN), and Elizabeth Warren (MA.). Independent Bernie Sanders (VT) also voted in line with Democrats." Ibid.





Even in the 19th century, as religious conviction waned, the warnings were there. Ivan Karamazov, in “The Brothers Karamazov,” exclaimed ‘if God does not exist, then everything is permitted.’

State sponsored mass murder followed shortly…..and now we have a major political party in America advancing infanticide. Don’t ignore the confluence.

 

[kyzr]

It's hard to believe that Cuomo and Dolan are okay with infanticide?!
I'm also disappointed that Catholic bishops don't vigorously oppose abortions like the Evangelicals do!?
Maybe they're too busy covering up for pedophiles?

This is where we differ, bro.....and why I'm not optimistic about the future of Western Civilization.

Nothing matters any more.

To embrace tolerance is to cease to believe in anything. Chesterton

"There are control devices, and then there are control mechanisms" (Mr. Spock)

Whether you call it "politically incorrect", or "conscience", or "peer pressure", or "the thought police", or "sin", or "unlawful", or any other mechanism that's used to manage societal norms, its something controlling your behavior.

Western civilization always had pockets of "bad behavior". Today any bad behavior is instant global news. I think on the whole Western civilization is sound, in spite of black pits like Amsterdam, or San Francisco...
Amsterdam drug laws and etiquette
San Francisco - where drug addicts outnumber high school students

Is the drug problem "chlorine in the gene pool"? (stupid is as stupid does)

Similarly, is abortion keeping the prison population down? (I've seen studies)

As cold-blooded as this sounds, I'd rather see dead druggies than keep supporting them in prison.
Babies don't have a choice, so their moms make it for them...

I know I shouldn't let you drag me off into a different topic....but, it is interesting.

"Similarly, is abortion keeping the prison population down? (I've seen studies)

As cold-blooded as this sounds, I'd rather see dead druggies than keep supporting them in prison.
Babies don't have a choice, so their moms make it for them..."

First, why use a felon's drug habit as a reason to allow the slaughter of an innocent?
Second, how about we simply solve the drug problem:
Confiscate drugs as we arrest users.
Adulterate the drugs with chemicals that turn users green.
Recirculate the drugs via undercovers, and use the profits to support law enforcement.
Finally......we arrest all the green people.

Third, pass laws such as "Georgia governor Brian Kemp signed perhaps the most impressive and comprehensively pro-life “heartbeat bill” in the nation. The law (set to go into effect in 2020) not only bans abortion when the baby has a “detectable human heartbeat” it declares the scientific, philosophical, and theological truth that an unborn child is a “natural person” under state law."
Georgia Heartbeat Bill Won't Imprison Women Who Have Abortions | National Review

First, my point was that unwanted babies, or those born into low-life homes generally end up in prison. Nothing to do with a "felon's drug habit". Who takes care of those 600,000 un-aborted babies a year?

Second, drugs can never be removed, they are all over and come into the US from everywhere. Can drugs be used to advantage to eliminate bad segments, such as by allowing fentanyl to be used, i.e, stupid is as stupid does, aka "chlorine in the gene pool".

Third, philosophically agree with the GA heartbeat Bill, but then what do you do with the 600,000 un-aborted babies a year?
Abortion statistics in the United States - Wikipedia

Let's not do what the bureaucrats do, and imagine that events are static when, most human behavior is dynamic.

If individuals knew that abortion as birth control would not be available, there would not be 600,000 such babies.

It's not as though the participants don't know how the baby came to be.

1. Events happen, static or otherwise. If you ban abortions, do you support Planned Parenthood and subsidized birth control? Otherwise, what do you do with the 600,000 un-aborted babies? Generally US adoptions are only about 135,000 a year. So who takes care of those extra babies? Foster care?
2. My spoof of drug deaths is only half kidding. Who can be that fucking stupid? They must really be dumb.
3. see #1......with subsidized birth control how low can we get abortions+adoptions?

 

[PoliticalChic]

This is where we differ, bro.....and why I'm not optimistic about the future of Western Civilization.

Nothing matters any more.

To embrace tolerance is to cease to believe in anything. Chesterton

"There are control devices, and then there are control mechanisms" (Mr. Spock)

Whether you call it "politically incorrect", or "conscience", or "peer pressure", or "the thought police", or "sin", or "unlawful", or any other mechanism that's used to manage societal norms, its something controlling your behavior.

Western civilization always had pockets of "bad behavior". Today any bad behavior is instant global news. I think on the whole Western civilization is sound, in spite of black pits like Amsterdam, or San Francisco...
Amsterdam drug laws and etiquette
San Francisco - where drug addicts outnumber high school students

Is the drug problem "chlorine in the gene pool"? (stupid is as stupid does)

Similarly, is abortion keeping the prison population down? (I've seen studies)

As cold-blooded as this sounds, I'd rather see dead druggies than keep supporting them in prison.
Babies don't have a choice, so their moms make it for them...

I know I shouldn't let you drag me off into a different topic....but, it is interesting.

"Similarly, is abortion keeping the prison population down? (I've seen studies)

As cold-blooded as this sounds, I'd rather see dead druggies than keep supporting them in prison.
Babies don't have a choice, so their moms make it for them..."

First, why use a felon's drug habit as a reason to allow the slaughter of an innocent?
Second, how about we simply solve the drug problem:
Confiscate drugs as we arrest users.
Adulterate the drugs with chemicals that turn users green.
Recirculate the drugs via undercovers, and use the profits to support law enforcement.
Finally......we arrest all the green people.

Third, pass laws such as "Georgia governor Brian Kemp signed perhaps the most impressive and comprehensively pro-life “heartbeat bill” in the nation. The law (set to go into effect in 2020) not only bans abortion when the baby has a “detectable human heartbeat” it declares the scientific, philosophical, and theological truth that an unborn child is a “natural person” under state law."
Georgia Heartbeat Bill Won't Imprison Women Who Have Abortions | National Review

First, my point was that unwanted babies, or those born into low-life homes generally end up in prison. Nothing to do with a "felon's drug habit". Who takes care of those 600,000 un-aborted babies a year?

Second, drugs can never be removed, they are all over and come into the US from everywhere. Can drugs be used to advantage to eliminate bad segments, such as by allowing fentanyl to be used, i.e, stupid is as stupid does, aka "chlorine in the gene pool".

Third, philosophically agree with the GA heartbeat Bill, but then what do you do with the 600,000 un-aborted babies a year?
Abortion statistics in the United States - Wikipedia

Let's not do what the bureaucrats do, and imagine that events are static when, most human behavior is dynamic.

If individuals knew that abortion as birth control would not be available, there would not be 600,000 such babies.

It's not as though the participants don't know how the baby came to be.

1. Events happen, static or otherwise. If you ban abortions, do you support Planned Parenthood and subsidized birth control? Otherwise, what do you do with the 600,000 un-aborted babies? Generally US adoptions are only about 135,000 a year. So who takes care of those extra babies? Foster care?
2. My spoof of drug deaths is only half kidding. Who can be that fucking stupid? They must really be dumb.
3. see #1......with subsidized birth control how low can we get abortions+adoptions?

"do you support Planned Parenthood and subsidized birth control?"

Are you serious???? We already do.
Planned Parenthood receives over a third of its money in government grants and contracts (about $528 million in 2014).




"Otherwise, what do you do with the 600,000 un-aborted babies? "
If abortion is no longer available as birth control, there won't be nearly that number. Human beings alter behavior based on options.

 

[Siete]

When You Can’t Face Reality



you're a Trumpdrone

 

[PoliticalChic]

12. When You Can’t Face Reality…

It’s the position in which the Democrat Party has placed its voters…..demand that they support the most horrendous and barbaric of agendas. They can’t explain them,...

... so they must pretend they don’t exist.




A perfect example is the Democrat filibuster of a Republican bill to protect babies born as a result of a failed abortion. Democrat voters can’t admit that the party is out to legalize infanticide.
Here is one of the dumbest of posters attempting to defend/excuse the Democrat’s blocking of Republican Sasse’s bill, the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act:

“There is already an infant protection law from 2002.” Good For Us, Bad For Them



So what????? Why prevent this bill from becoming law?????

Answer: the Democrats need to protect the right to kill these babies.



There is such a Republican bill, but this excuse for voting against it avoids the fact that Congress regularly passes redundant bills….especially if there is a moral basis for same: last week the Congress unanimously passes an anti-lynching bill…..even though lynching is against the law throughout the country.

Yet the Democrats blocked- would not allow consideration of- a bill that would prevent the murder of innocent, defenseless babies.
There is no excuse.






13. The Republican bill requires that doctors treat these babies with the attention and care they deserve.
“… it’s consistent with our national values.” Don't make protecting babies who survive abortion a partisan issue, McConnell says

These values:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” Thomas Jefferson.

And based on the above, every conservative is pro-life.




The Democrats follow this creed:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky



The Democrat Party: the knuckle-dragging, barbaric, atavistic party.

This is the reality.

 

[kyzr]

"There are control devices, and then there are control mechanisms" (Mr. Spock)

Whether you call it "politically incorrect", or "conscience", or "peer pressure", or "the thought police", or "sin", or "unlawful", or any other mechanism that's used to manage societal norms, its something controlling your behavior.

Western civilization always had pockets of "bad behavior". Today any bad behavior is instant global news. I think on the whole Western civilization is sound, in spite of black pits like Amsterdam, or San Francisco...
Amsterdam drug laws and etiquette
San Francisco - where drug addicts outnumber high school students

Is the drug problem "chlorine in the gene pool"? (stupid is as stupid does)

Similarly, is abortion keeping the prison population down? (I've seen studies)

As cold-blooded as this sounds, I'd rather see dead druggies than keep supporting them in prison.
Babies don't have a choice, so their moms make it for them...

I know I shouldn't let you drag me off into a different topic....but, it is interesting.

"Similarly, is abortion keeping the prison population down? (I've seen studies)

As cold-blooded as this sounds, I'd rather see dead druggies than keep supporting them in prison.
Babies don't have a choice, so their moms make it for them..."

First, why use a felon's drug habit as a reason to allow the slaughter of an innocent?
Second, how about we simply solve the drug problem:
Confiscate drugs as we arrest users.
Adulterate the drugs with chemicals that turn users green.
Recirculate the drugs via undercovers, and use the profits to support law enforcement.
Finally......we arrest all the green people.

Third, pass laws such as "Georgia governor Brian Kemp signed perhaps the most impressive and comprehensively pro-life “heartbeat bill” in the nation. The law (set to go into effect in 2020) not only bans abortion when the baby has a “detectable human heartbeat” it declares the scientific, philosophical, and theological truth that an unborn child is a “natural person” under state law."
Georgia Heartbeat Bill Won't Imprison Women Who Have Abortions | National Review

First, my point was that unwanted babies, or those born into low-life homes generally end up in prison. Nothing to do with a "felon's drug habit". Who takes care of those 600,000 un-aborted babies a year?

Second, drugs can never be removed, they are all over and come into the US from everywhere. Can drugs be used to advantage to eliminate bad segments, such as by allowing fentanyl to be used, i.e, stupid is as stupid does, aka "chlorine in the gene pool".

Third, philosophically agree with the GA heartbeat Bill, but then what do you do with the 600,000 un-aborted babies a year?
Abortion statistics in the United States - Wikipedia

Let's not do what the bureaucrats do, and imagine that events are static when, most human behavior is dynamic.

If individuals knew that abortion as birth control would not be available, there would not be 600,000 such babies.

It's not as though the participants don't know how the baby came to be.

1. Events happen, static or otherwise. If you ban abortions, do you support Planned Parenthood and subsidized birth control? Otherwise, what do you do with the 600,000 un-aborted babies? Generally US adoptions are only about 135,000 a year. So who takes care of those extra babies? Foster care?
2. My spoof of drug deaths is only half kidding. Who can be that fucking stupid? They must really be dumb.
3. see #1......with subsidized birth control how low can we get abortions+adoptions?

"do you support Planned Parenthood and subsidized birth control?"

Are you serious???? We already do.
Planned Parenthood receives over a third of its money in government grants and contracts (about $528 million in 2014).

"Otherwise, what do you do with the 600,000 un-aborted babies? "
If abortion is no longer available as birth control, there won't be nearly that number. Human beings alter behavior based on options.

"If abortion is no longer available as birth control, there won't be nearly that number. Human beings alter behavior based on options."

Disagree!! If abortions won't stop unwanted pregnancies, "no abortions" won't either. Dumb human beings do not alter behavior. So the question remains, what do you do with the 600,000 un-aborted babies? Say even 300,000 more, half get smart and half don't. That's still a lot of babies to care for!!

 

[PoliticalChic]

I know I shouldn't let you drag me off into a different topic....but, it is interesting.

"Similarly, is abortion keeping the prison population down? (I've seen studies)

As cold-blooded as this sounds, I'd rather see dead druggies than keep supporting them in prison.
Babies don't have a choice, so their moms make it for them..."

First, why use a felon's drug habit as a reason to allow the slaughter of an innocent?
Second, how about we simply solve the drug problem:
Confiscate drugs as we arrest users.
Adulterate the drugs with chemicals that turn users green.
Recirculate the drugs via undercovers, and use the profits to support law enforcement.
Finally......we arrest all the green people.

Third, pass laws such as "Georgia governor Brian Kemp signed perhaps the most impressive and comprehensively pro-life “heartbeat bill” in the nation. The law (set to go into effect in 2020) not only bans abortion when the baby has a “detectable human heartbeat” it declares the scientific, philosophical, and theological truth that an unborn child is a “natural person” under state law."
Georgia Heartbeat Bill Won't Imprison Women Who Have Abortions | National Review

First, my point was that unwanted babies, or those born into low-life homes generally end up in prison. Nothing to do with a "felon's drug habit". Who takes care of those 600,000 un-aborted babies a year?

Second, drugs can never be removed, they are all over and come into the US from everywhere. Can drugs be used to advantage to eliminate bad segments, such as by allowing fentanyl to be used, i.e, stupid is as stupid does, aka "chlorine in the gene pool".

Third, philosophically agree with the GA heartbeat Bill, but then what do you do with the 600,000 un-aborted babies a year?
Abortion statistics in the United States - Wikipedia

Let's not do what the bureaucrats do, and imagine that events are static when, most human behavior is dynamic.

If individuals knew that abortion as birth control would not be available, there would not be 600,000 such babies.

It's not as though the participants don't know how the baby came to be.

1. Events happen, static or otherwise. If you ban abortions, do you support Planned Parenthood and subsidized birth control? Otherwise, what do you do with the 600,000 un-aborted babies? Generally US adoptions are only about 135,000 a year. So who takes care of those extra babies? Foster care?
2. My spoof of drug deaths is only half kidding. Who can be that fucking stupid? They must really be dumb.
3. see #1......with subsidized birth control how low can we get abortions+adoptions?

"do you support Planned Parenthood and subsidized birth control?"

Are you serious???? We already do.
Planned Parenthood receives over a third of its money in government grants and contracts (about $528 million in 2014).

"Otherwise, what do you do with the 600,000 un-aborted babies? "
If abortion is no longer available as birth control, there won't be nearly that number. Human beings alter behavior based on options.

"If abortion is no longer available as birth control, there won't be nearly that number. Human beings alter behavior based on options."

Disagree!! If abortions won't stop unwanted pregnancies, "no abortions" won't either. Dumb human beings do not alter behavior. So the question remains, what do you do with the 600,000 un-aborted babies? Say even 300,000 more, half get smart and half don't. That's still a lot of babies to care for!!

Of course behavior changes with the situation.


Here's a headline from the NYTimes:

"I Can Afford Higher Taxes. But They’ll Make Me Work Less."
Higher Taxes Mean I’ll Work Less

 

[Cecilie1200]

4. There is no way to separate abortion from infanticide for this reason: what if a child is born as a result of an unsuccessful attempted abortion?

And, as several states now allow abortion up to the moment of birth,… “The state of New York recently passed a horrific new abortion law removing almost all previous restrictions. The law now allows abortions to be performed up to the point of natural birth by physicians and also by some non-physician health care practitioners. It also removes protections for babies who accidentally survive an abortion procedure.” New York abortion law changes allow infanticide


"7 states already allow abortion up to birth — not just New York"
7 states already allow abortion up to birth — not just New York





…..the result of what happens to that child is included here:

“The practice in some societies of killing unwanted children soon after birth.” infanticide | Definition of infanticide in English by Oxford Dictionaries



There is no dancing around it. It is infanticide.

Not by any legal definition..

Only amoral fools run to, "Legal! The law! The law dictates morality, science, and fact!"

 

[PoliticalChic]

4. There is no way to separate abortion from infanticide for this reason: what if a child is born as a result of an unsuccessful attempted abortion?

And, as several states now allow abortion up to the moment of birth,… “The state of New York recently passed a horrific new abortion law removing almost all previous restrictions. The law now allows abortions to be performed up to the point of natural birth by physicians and also by some non-physician health care practitioners. It also removes protections for babies who accidentally survive an abortion procedure.” New York abortion law changes allow infanticide


"7 states already allow abortion up to birth — not just New York"
7 states already allow abortion up to birth — not just New York





…..the result of what happens to that child is included here:

“The practice in some societies of killing unwanted children soon after birth.” infanticide | Definition of infanticide in English by Oxford Dictionaries



There is no dancing around it. It is infanticide.

Not by any legal definition..

Only amoral fools run to, "Legal! The law! The law dictates morality, science, and fact!"

I understand the Third Reich had lots of laws, too.

 

[Moonglow]

4. There is no way to separate abortion from infanticide for this reason: what if a child is born as a result of an unsuccessful attempted abortion?

And, as several states now allow abortion up to the moment of birth,… “The state of New York recently passed a horrific new abortion law removing almost all previous restrictions. The law now allows abortions to be performed up to the point of natural birth by physicians and also by some non-physician health care practitioners. It also removes protections for babies who accidentally survive an abortion procedure.” New York abortion law changes allow infanticide


"7 states already allow abortion up to birth — not just New York"
7 states already allow abortion up to birth — not just New York





…..the result of what happens to that child is included here:

“The practice in some societies of killing unwanted children soon after birth.” infanticide | Definition of infanticide in English by Oxford Dictionaries



There is no dancing around it. It is infanticide.

Not by any legal definition..

Only amoral fools run to, "Legal! The law! The law dictates morality, science, and fact!"

Yet, law is an art more than a science.

 

[Moonglow]

4. There is no way to separate abortion from infanticide for this reason: what if a child is born as a result of an unsuccessful attempted abortion?

And, as several states now allow abortion up to the moment of birth,… “The state of New York recently passed a horrific new abortion law removing almost all previous restrictions. The law now allows abortions to be performed up to the point of natural birth by physicians and also by some non-physician health care practitioners. It also removes protections for babies who accidentally survive an abortion procedure.” New York abortion law changes allow infanticide


"7 states already allow abortion up to birth — not just New York"
7 states already allow abortion up to birth — not just New York





…..the result of what happens to that child is included here:

“The practice in some societies of killing unwanted children soon after birth.” infanticide | Definition of infanticide in English by Oxford Dictionaries



There is no dancing around it. It is infanticide.

Not by any legal definition..

Only amoral fools run to, "Legal! The law! The law dictates morality, science, and fact!"

I understand the Third Reich had lots of laws, too.

Look in the Bible there is literally thousands...

 

[Cecilie1200]

I truly doubt that they'll get the sarcasm.

It's hard to believe that Cuomo and Dolan are okay with infanticide?!
I'm also disappointed that Catholic bishops don't vigorously oppose abortions like the Evangelicals do!?
Maybe they're too busy covering up for pedophiles?

This is where we differ, bro.....and why I'm not optimistic about the future of Western Civilization.

Nothing matters any more.

To embrace tolerance is to cease to believe in anything. Chesterton

"There are control devices, and then there are control mechanisms" (Mr. Spock)

Whether you call it "politically incorrect", or "conscience", or "peer pressure", or "the thought police", or "sin", or "unlawful", or any other mechanism that's used to manage societal norms, its something controlling your behavior.

Western civilization always had pockets of "bad behavior". Today any bad behavior is instant global news. I think on the whole Western civilization is sound, in spite of black pits like Amsterdam, or San Francisco...
Amsterdam drug laws and etiquette
San Francisco - where drug addicts outnumber high school students

Is the drug problem "chlorine in the gene pool"? (stupid is as stupid does)

Similarly, is abortion keeping the prison population down? (I've seen studies)

As cold-blooded as this sounds, I'd rather see dead druggies than keep supporting them in prison.
Babies don't have a choice, so their moms make it for them...

I know I shouldn't let you drag me off into a different topic....but, it is interesting.

"Similarly, is abortion keeping the prison population down? (I've seen studies)

As cold-blooded as this sounds, I'd rather see dead druggies than keep supporting them in prison.
Babies don't have a choice, so their moms make it for them..."

First, why use a felon's drug habit as a reason to allow the slaughter of an innocent?
Second, how about we simply solve the drug problem:
Confiscate drugs as we arrest users.
Adulterate the drugs with chemicals that turn users green.
Recirculate the drugs via undercovers, and use the profits to support law enforcement.
Finally......we arrest all the green people.

Third, pass laws such as "Georgia governor Brian Kemp signed perhaps the most impressive and comprehensively pro-life “heartbeat bill” in the nation. The law (set to go into effect in 2020) not only bans abortion when the baby has a “detectable human heartbeat” it declares the scientific, philosophical, and theological truth that an unborn child is a “natural person” under state law."
Georgia Heartbeat Bill Won't Imprison Women Who Have Abortions | National Review

First, my point was that unwanted babies, or those born into low-life homes generally end up in prison. Nothing to do with a "felon's drug habit". Who takes care of those 600,000 un-aborted babies a year?

Second, drugs can never be removed, they are all over and come into the US from everywhere. Can drugs be used to advantage to eliminate bad segments, such as by allowing fentanyl to be used, i.e, stupid is as stupid does, aka "chlorine in the gene pool"?

Third, philosophically agree with the GA heartbeat Bill, but then what do you do with the 600,000 un-aborted babies a year?
Abortion statistics in the United States - Wikipedia

Sorry, but what makes you think there would be 600,000 unaborted babies a year? The assumption that rates of unintended pregnancies would remain static and unchanged by a change in abortion law is a very big and utterly unsupported assumption to make.