When The Constitution Died….

[BasicHumanUnit]

PC
Thanks for your investment of your time to bring this thoughtful and enlightening information.

Unfortunately, today's Leftist are too far gone and enjoying far too much support of their anti-Constitutional agendas to have any hope of understanding the significance.

I agree, we no longer have the Constitutional "protections" intended by the Founders, and most Progressives couldn't be happier. At least for now.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"Obviously just like Trump is gonna stack the court in his view's favor FDR did."

OMG!!!


Your ignorance is on display.....again.


FDR tried to 'stack' the court by adding additional judges.

Trump has never done or suggested such a thing.

He has nominated judges to replace any who have left or passed on.


BTW.....FDR's first nominee was a KKKer.

But....FDR was known as a bigot who hated minorities.

True. That non vote was pretty Constitutionally shady though

Ey, did I miss your opinion on that civil war question?

Or has Ann not given youone yet.

"Or has Ann not given youone yet."


My name isn't Ann.

You seem quite put out at having run up against another of my perfectly constructed threads.....again.


Won't be the last time.

Yeah, I mean I was just asking you a question about Lincoln. Thought you might know something about it and have an opinion.

Then I was gonna compare and contrast the situations. Talk a bit about what was the right thing to do in each case.

INSTEAD,

Ann hasn't given you an opinion on Lincoln I guess so your bosses don't let you post one. Seemed simple. Everyone on a discussion forum loves to discuss things.

You're a bit more into copying and pasting what your masters have given you permission to.

That's fine, I don't wanna get you into trouble!

From now one I'll just talk to everyone else with questions pertaining to your pastes.

There's no "Ann" here....just me schooling you.

Folks, I would say the New Deal was a continuation of the big government programs of the 1800's. In 1870 we could enlarge the economy by using the plunder we gained in wars with Mexico or the Indian lands we bought from France.

Come the 1900's we could no longer just give land away to companies across America as payment for this or that. SO, a New Deal was created.

Was the Patriot Act Constitutional? Dubiously. Was it what Republicans and most of America at the time thought was needed? Sure was, and is. Thus was the New Deal.

What elements of the New Deal do you all think stretched the Constitution the most?

No wonder you were relegated to summer school so often!


The facts don't seem to sink in the first, second, or third time with you.

But....I am patient.


1.Unlike any President before him, Franklin Roosevelt not only believed he was a higher authority than the Constitution...but he expended every effort to accomplish his dominance...
...and he found a successful way to do so: end the independence of the Supreme Court.


2.The fateful year was 1937: up until that year the Congress of the United States conducted its business within the boundaries of seventeen enumerated powers granted under Article I Section 8 of the United States Constitution; these powers defined clearly the areas within which Congress could enact legislation including the allocation of funds and levying of taxes.

Anything not set down in the enumerated powers was considered outside the purview of the national government and hence, a matter for the states. There were occasional challenges to the concept but it was not until Franklin Roosevelt's new deal that it was attacked in deadly earnestness. The General Welfare Clause




3.In 1933, Fascism was celebrating its eleventh year in power, in Italy, and the election of the National Socialists in Germany represented an unmitigated defeat for liberal democracy in Europe’s largest industrialized nation.

At the beginning of the same month, FDR was inaugurated as President. And before Congress went into recess it granted powers to Roosevelt unprecedented in peacetime. From Congressional hearings, 1973: “Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency.” http://www.freedomsite.net/93-549.htm


The Supreme Court was cowed, and became a rubber stamp for Mussolini's economic plan, which FDR called 'The New Deal.'


Now....don't make me have to discipline you again.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Died, it did, and, it wasn’t a natural death….it was a cold blooded, calculated, assassination by the Brutus called Franklin Roosevelt..

No. FDR just exhumed the remains of the document that Abraham Lincoln has assassinated in 1861 and evuscerated it again.

We had a functioning Supreme Court in 1861.


Not so when Franklin Roosevelt emasculated it in his first term.

The fateful year was 1937: up until that year the Congress of the United States conducted its business within the boundaries of seventeen enumerated powers granted under Article I Section 8 of the United States Constitution; these powers defined clearly the areas within which Congress could enact legislation including the allocation of funds and levying of taxes.

Anything not set down in the enumerated powers was considered outside the purview of the national government and hence, a matter for the states. There were occasional challenges to the concept but it was not until Franklin Roosevelt's new deal that it was attacked in deadly earnestness. The General Welfare Clause

Youve left out Helvering v. Davis, sorry you lose, try again.

"Youve left out Helvering v. Davis, sorry you lose, try again."


Watch this:



This was post #8, yesterday, dunce.


.It was August 14, 1935 when FDR signed the Social Security Act. As it was unassociated with any of the enumerated powers, the question as to whether the government could dun Americans for that purpose was put to the courts for a test.

The court case that delivered the coup de grace to the United States Constitution was Helvering v. Davis.

"Helvering v. Davis, (May 24, 1937)...a decision by the United States Supreme Court, which held that Social Security was constitutionally permissible as an exercise of the federal power to spend for the general welfare, .... It affirmed a District Court decree that held that the tax upon employees was not properly at issue, and that the tax upon employers was constitutional."
Helvering v. Davis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. Be clear: this decision was a direct contravention of the judicial understanding of the phrase "general welfare."
In one fell swoop, this rogue court destroyed the idea that the federal government was, in any way, limited in its spending authority.


Associate Justice Owen J. Roberts., writing in 1951, said in effect: "We voted against the Constitution to save the Court."


For the Court….but against the Constitution and against America.




And this was post #10....


9. So...how to explain a 7-2 decision in Helvering v Davis?

Well, Cardozo admitted that precedent and history were being tossed: Founders be damned!
"Congress may spend money in aid of the 'general welfare'. There have been great statesmen in our history who have stood for other views. We will not resurrect the contest. It is now settled by decision. The conception of the spending power advocated by Hamilton and strongly reinforced by Story has prevailed over that of Madison, which has not been lacking in adherents." Benjamin Cardozo

Everyone should take notice of the phrase "settled by decision." This is the homage that Progressives pay to 'caselaw,' which reverses the idea that it is the Constitution that is meant to guide the nation! Somehow, unelected judges are of a higher authority than the memorializing document itself.





10. "The [Roosevelt] Court, having trashed the enumerated powers, then managed to make matters worse. Cardozo acknowledged that defining what constitutes 'general welfare' is a matter of discretion.

" There is a middle ground or certainly a penumbra in which discretion is at large. [Where else has this rationalization been used to imagine new laws?]
The discretion, however, is not confided to the courts. The discretion belongs to Congress, unless the choice is clearly wrong, a display of arbitrary power is not an exercise of judgment. "



In effect, the Progressive view is that Congress is free to spend any of taxpayers funds on what it deemed 'the general welfare.'

"And so the accepted interpretation of 'general welfare' was overturned in a stroke, without apology, and even with a sort of flippancy about the enormity of the reinterpretation that seven individuals had imposed on the nation's founding document." Charles Murray, "By The People," p.20-21



Roosevelt, and his subservient Court, stabbed the Constitution….and America….to death.




Sooooo......we've proven
a. I never lose

and,

b. what a loser you are.




Now, write soon, y'hear!

 

[Toronado3800]

True. That non vote was pretty Constitutionally shady though

Ey, did I miss your opinion on that civil war question?

Or has Ann not given youone yet.

"Or has Ann not given youone yet."


My name isn't Ann.

You seem quite put out at having run up against another of my perfectly constructed threads.....again.


Won't be the last time.

Yeah, I mean I was just asking you a question about Lincoln. Thought you might know something about it and have an opinion.

Then I was gonna compare and contrast the situations. Talk a bit about what was the right thing to do in each case.

INSTEAD,

Ann hasn't given you an opinion on Lincoln I guess so your bosses don't let you post one. Seemed simple. Everyone on a discussion forum loves to discuss things.

You're a bit more into copying and pasting what your masters have given you permission to.

That's fine, I don't wanna get you into trouble!

From now one I'll just talk to everyone else with questions pertaining to your pastes.

There's no "Ann" here....just me schooling you.

Folks, I would say the New Deal was a continuation of the big government programs of the 1800's. In 1870 we could enlarge the economy by using the plunder we gained in wars with Mexico or the Indian lands we bought from France.

Come the 1900's we could no longer just give land away to companies across America as payment for this or that. SO, a New Deal was created.

Was the Patriot Act Constitutional? Dubiously. Was it what Republicans and most of America at the time thought was needed? Sure was, and is. Thus was the New Deal.

What elements of the New Deal do you all think stretched the Constitution the most?

No wonder you were relegated to summer school so often!


The facts don't seem to sink in the first, second, or third time with you.

But....I am patient.


1.Unlike any President before him, Franklin Roosevelt not only believed he was a higher authority than the Constitution...but he expended every effort to accomplish his dominance...
...and he found a successful way to do so: end the independence of the Supreme Court.


2.The fateful year was 1937: up until that year the Congress of the United States conducted its business within the boundaries of seventeen enumerated powers granted under Article I Section 8 of the United States Constitution; these powers defined clearly the areas within which Congress could enact legislation including the allocation of funds and levying of taxes.

Anything not set down in the enumerated powers was considered outside the purview of the national government and hence, a matter for the states. There were occasional challenges to the concept but it was not until Franklin Roosevelt's new deal that it was attacked in deadly earnestness. The General Welfare Clause




3.In 1933, Fascism was celebrating its eleventh year in power, in Italy, and the election of the National Socialists in Germany represented an unmitigated defeat for liberal democracy in Europe’s largest industrialized nation.

At the beginning of the same month, FDR was inaugurated as President. And before Congress went into recess it granted powers to Roosevelt unprecedented in peacetime. From Congressional hearings, 1973: “Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency.” http://www.freedomsite.net/93-549.htm


The Supreme Court was cowed, and became a rubber stamp for Mussolini's economic plan, which FDR called 'The New Deal.'


Now....don't make me have to discipline you again.

I wasn't talking to you, and your reply ignored a few things I was talking about amd asked folks about.

Conversation school time for ya.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"Or has Ann not given youone yet."


My name isn't Ann.

You seem quite put out at having run up against another of my perfectly constructed threads.....again.


Won't be the last time.

Yeah, I mean I was just asking you a question about Lincoln. Thought you might know something about it and have an opinion.

Then I was gonna compare and contrast the situations. Talk a bit about what was the right thing to do in each case.

INSTEAD,

Ann hasn't given you an opinion on Lincoln I guess so your bosses don't let you post one. Seemed simple. Everyone on a discussion forum loves to discuss things.

You're a bit more into copying and pasting what your masters have given you permission to.

That's fine, I don't wanna get you into trouble!

From now one I'll just talk to everyone else with questions pertaining to your pastes.

There's no "Ann" here....just me schooling you.

Folks, I would say the New Deal was a continuation of the big government programs of the 1800's. In 1870 we could enlarge the economy by using the plunder we gained in wars with Mexico or the Indian lands we bought from France.

Come the 1900's we could no longer just give land away to companies across America as payment for this or that. SO, a New Deal was created.

Was the Patriot Act Constitutional? Dubiously. Was it what Republicans and most of America at the time thought was needed? Sure was, and is. Thus was the New Deal.

What elements of the New Deal do you all think stretched the Constitution the most?

No wonder you were relegated to summer school so often!


The facts don't seem to sink in the first, second, or third time with you.

But....I am patient.


1.Unlike any President before him, Franklin Roosevelt not only believed he was a higher authority than the Constitution...but he expended every effort to accomplish his dominance...
...and he found a successful way to do so: end the independence of the Supreme Court.


2.The fateful year was 1937: up until that year the Congress of the United States conducted its business within the boundaries of seventeen enumerated powers granted under Article I Section 8 of the United States Constitution; these powers defined clearly the areas within which Congress could enact legislation including the allocation of funds and levying of taxes.

Anything not set down in the enumerated powers was considered outside the purview of the national government and hence, a matter for the states. There were occasional challenges to the concept but it was not until Franklin Roosevelt's new deal that it was attacked in deadly earnestness. The General Welfare Clause




3.In 1933, Fascism was celebrating its eleventh year in power, in Italy, and the election of the National Socialists in Germany represented an unmitigated defeat for liberal democracy in Europe’s largest industrialized nation.

At the beginning of the same month, FDR was inaugurated as President. And before Congress went into recess it granted powers to Roosevelt unprecedented in peacetime. From Congressional hearings, 1973: “Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency.” http://www.freedomsite.net/93-549.htm


The Supreme Court was cowed, and became a rubber stamp for Mussolini's economic plan, which FDR called 'The New Deal.'


Now....don't make me have to discipline you again.

I wasn't talking to you, and your reply ignored a few things I was talking about amd asked folks about.

Conversation school time for ya.

Now, that's no way to respond to your betters.


Did Franklin Roosevelt deal a death blow to the Constitution...purposely and with aforethought....by seducing the Supreme Court?

Did the Supreme Court abrogate it's responsibility and its mandate by acquiescing to an unconstitutional agenda of Franklin Roosevelt?



Take your time.

 

[PoliticalChic]

15. The only document by which American have agreed to be governed is the United States Constitution, called ‘the law of the land.’

According to the Founders, of our nation, and memorialized in our founding documents, our nation was based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

America was America from 1789 to 1933....nearly a century and a half. The Constitution was in effect, and served as a guide for our government.

The fateful year was 1937: up until that year the Congress of the United States conducted its business within the boundaries of seventeen enumerated powers granted under Article I Section 8 of the United States Constitution; these powers defined clearly the areas within which Congress could enact legislation including the allocation of funds and levying of taxes.

Anything not set down in the enumerated powers was considered outside the purview of the national government and hence, a matter for the states. There were occasional challenges to the concept but it was not until Franklin Roosevelt's new deal that it was attacked in deadly earnestness. The General Welfare Clause




16. What should the role of the Supreme Court be????

a. All Supreme Court Justices may only vote according to the language of the United States Constitution.

b. Any issue not specific to the enumerated powers may not be legislated by the federal government....and must remain within the province of the state courts.

That would be American jurisprudence.

 

[dudmuck]

The supreme court ruling still stands today, that social security remains within bounds of constitution.

But in practical terms, its just a small social safety net. Something every modern productive economy has today.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

7. So....why no amendments to allow government setting up the insurance plan known as Social Security?

Or changing the Contract Clause appears in the United States Constitution, Article I, section 10, clause 1....?

....or the thousand and one other invasions of government into private lives and the private economy?




"...1937-1942 took the nation on a different route, lifting the requirement that new government powers needed to be constitutionally ratified, and, instead, letting
Congress unilaterally authorize whatever new powers it wanted."
Charles Murray, p.27.”ByThePeople”

In 1937, the court buckled and ceased to act as the guardian of economic liberty, and as a limit on the extension of federal government power. It now upheld many New Deal measures.




8.It was August 14, 1935 when FDR signed the Social Security Act. As it was unassociated with any of the enumerated powers, the question as to whether the government could dun Americans for that purpose was put to the courts for a test.

The court case that delivered the coup de grace to the United States Constitution was Helvering v. Davis.

"Helvering v. Davis, (May 24, 1937)...a decision by the United States Supreme Court, which held that Social Security was constitutionally permissible as an exercise of the federal power to spend for the general welfare, .... It affirmed a District Court decree that held that the tax upon employees was not properly at issue, and that the tax upon employers was constitutional."
Helvering v. Davis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. Be clear: this decision was a direct contravention of the judicial understanding of the phrase "general welfare."
In one fell swoop, this rogue court destroyed the idea that the federal government was, in any way, limited in its spending authority.


Associate Justice Owen J. Roberts., writing in 1951, said in effect: "We voted against the Constitution to save the Court."


For the Court….but against the Constitution and against America.


Sooo….who do you support….America, or Progressives????

Ignorant nonsense.

The Constitution exists solely in the context of its case law, as intended by the Framers.

The Constitution currently alive and well.

 

[regent]

Chic, how come you miss the first stab at the Constitution by our second president the conservative, John Adams? Seems John and the conservatives made it illegal to criticize conservative politicians. And that was the end of the first conservative party, so it worked out OK. Seems many liberals thought The Alien and Sedition Act violated the Bill of Rights. The period after the conservative party died became known as the "Era of good feelings."

 

[PoliticalChic]

The supreme court ruling still stands today, that social security remains within bounds of constitution.

But in practical terms, its just a small social safety net. Something every modern productive economy has today.

Booooyyyyyyeeeeee.....you sure are trying to slither away from that last post, claiming that I failed to comment on the Helvering case, huh?


Wasn't that fun, dunce????

Sure put a cork in your pie hole.

 

[PoliticalChic]

7. So....why no amendments to allow government setting up the insurance plan known as Social Security?

Or changing the Contract Clause appears in the United States Constitution, Article I, section 10, clause 1....?

....or the thousand and one other invasions of government into private lives and the private economy?




"...1937-1942 took the nation on a different route, lifting the requirement that new government powers needed to be constitutionally ratified, and, instead, letting
Congress unilaterally authorize whatever new powers it wanted."
Charles Murray, p.27.”ByThePeople”

In 1937, the court buckled and ceased to act as the guardian of economic liberty, and as a limit on the extension of federal government power. It now upheld many New Deal measures.




8.It was August 14, 1935 when FDR signed the Social Security Act. As it was unassociated with any of the enumerated powers, the question as to whether the government could dun Americans for that purpose was put to the courts for a test.

The court case that delivered the coup de grace to the United States Constitution was Helvering v. Davis.

"Helvering v. Davis, (May 24, 1937)...a decision by the United States Supreme Court, which held that Social Security was constitutionally permissible as an exercise of the federal power to spend for the general welfare, .... It affirmed a District Court decree that held that the tax upon employees was not properly at issue, and that the tax upon employers was constitutional."
Helvering v. Davis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. Be clear: this decision was a direct contravention of the judicial understanding of the phrase "general welfare."
In one fell swoop, this rogue court destroyed the idea that the federal government was, in any way, limited in its spending authority.


Associate Justice Owen J. Roberts., writing in 1951, said in effect: "We voted against the Constitution to save the Court."


For the Court….but against the Constitution and against America.


Sooo….who do you support….America, or Progressives????

Ignorant nonsense.

The Constitution exists solely in the context of its case law, as intended by the Framers.

The Constitution currently alive and well.

Are you more a fool, or a liar????


Which is it?????


Case law is the very antithesis of the Constitution.


Now, because I am magnanimous, I will give you the lesson you so sorely require:



1. Progressives have altered the role of the Supreme Court in a dramatic way: no longer should its role be to apply law as written. Instead, it was the application of German social science to American law.

... law must leave "conceptions" and open itself up to social realities of the modern world.”…[endng]the backwardness of law in meeting social ends,…”http://www.drbilllong.com/Jurisprudence/Pound.html


2. [Roscoe Pound] was perhaps the chief U.S. advocate of sociological jurisprudence, which holds that statutes and court decisions are affected by social conditions; his ideas apparently influenced the New Deal programs of Pres. Franklin D. Roosevelt.Answers - The Most Trusted Place for Answering Life's Questions



3. Instead of following the Constitution, 'social justice' is to be pursued from the bench by following the dictates of unelected judges.....caselaw.


"Christopher Columbus Langdell ....Before Langdell's tenure, the study of law was a technical pursuit. Students were told what the law is. However, at Harvard Langdell applied the principles of pragmatism to the study of law. Now, as a result of this innovation, lawyers are taught the law through a dialectical process of inference called the case method. The case method has been the primary method of pedagogy at American law schools ever since. The case method has since been adopted and improved upon by schools in other disciplines, such as business, public policy, and education. Students such as Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. would ensure that Langdell's innovation would not go unnoticed. Christopher Columbus Langdell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


There is no excuse for this corruption of jurisprudence except for a hatred of America.





Say 'thank you.'

 

[PoliticalChic]

Chic, how come you miss the first stab at the Constitution by our second president the conservative, John Adams? Seems John and the conservatives made it illegal to criticize conservative politicians. And that was the end of the first conservative party, so it worked out OK. Seems many liberals thought The Alien and Sedition Act violated the Bill of Rights. The period after the conservative party died became known as the "Era of good feelings."

So sorry, but you will not be allowed to change the subject in order to shield the wannabe dictator, Franklin Delano Roosevelt.



Did Franklin Roosevelt deal a death blow to the Constitution...purposely and with aforethought....by seducing the Supreme Court?

Did the Supreme Court abrogate it's responsibility and its mandate by acquiescing to an unconstitutional agenda of Franklin Roosevelt?



Take your time.

 

[danielpalos]

Died, it did, and, it wasn’t a natural death….it was a cold blooded, calculated, assassination by the Brutus called Franklin Roosevelt.




1.The only document by which American have agreed to be governed is the United States Constitution, called ‘the law of the land.’

According to the Founders of our nation, and memorialized in our founding documents, our nation was based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

America was America from 1789 to 1933....nearly a century and a half. The Constitution was in effect, and served as a guide for our government.



Mull this over:

To which should an American give his support, the Constitution, or to the current President of the moment?



2.The fateful year was 1937: up until that year the Congress of the United States conducted its business within the boundaries of seventeen enumerated powers granted under Article I Section 8 of the United States Constitution; these powers defined clearly the areas within which Congress could enact legislation including the allocation of funds and levying of taxes.

Anything not set down in the enumerated powers was considered outside the purview of the national government and hence, a matter for the states. There were occasional challenges to the concept but it was not until Franklin Roosevelt's new deal that it was attacked in deadly earnestness. The General Welfare Clause




3.In 1933, Fascism was celebrating its eleventh year in power, in Italy, and the election of the National Socialists in Germany represented an unmitigated defeat for liberal democracy in Europe’s largest industrialized nation.

At the beginning of the same month, FDR was inaugurated as President. And before Congress went into recess it granted powers to Roosevelt unprecedented in peacetime. From Congressional hearings, 1973: “Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency.” http://www.freedomsite.net/93-549.htm

4.During the Depression, FDR asked for an receive unprecedented powers. Some poorly crafted legislation went to the courts. The first of the new deal statutes to reach the Supreme Court for review, arrived in January 1935. In the sixteen months following, the court decided ten major cases or groups of cases involving new deal statutes. In eight instances out of ten the decisions went in favor of the United States Constitution and against the new deal. Eight of the ten pieces of "must legislation" were found to be unconstitutional. Ibid.



Under FDR’s threats to pack the court, they threw in the towel. In doing so, they said in effect, Congress would no longer be held to enumerated powers but instead could tax and spend for anything; so long as it was for "general welfare." The supreme court surrendered to the new deal on the most fundamental of constitutional issues.
The General Welfare Clause





5. Why would FDR, who had taken an oath to defend the Constitution, tear it asunder? Because he saw the success, the power, of his ‘friends’…the dictators, Hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin.
Because Roosevelt wanted nothing more than to swim with the sharks....to be one with the other dictators, not fight them.


It was a terrible decision for Roosevelt to have to choose between Stalin and Hitler....but he did.
" Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48

Details to follow.


Warning: the violence done to the Constitution by Roosevelt is graphic. Viewer discretion is advised.

Thank Goodness FDR was a left winger; we can Only imagine what the right wing would have wanted to do.

 

[Camp]

Folks with first-hand knowledge of Franklyn Roosevelt believed in him and trusted him. Perhaps why they elected him four times. He was the original "Ged'er done" guy.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Folks with first-hand knowledge of Franklyn Roosevelt believed in him and trusted him. Perhaps why they elected him four times. He was the original "Ged'er done" guy.

"Folks with first-hand knowledge of Franklyn (sic) Roosevelt..."

Notice: you are forbidden from ever using the term 'knowledge'....for obvious reasons.

 

[regent]

Chic, how come you miss the first stab at the Constitution by our second president the conservative, John Adams? Seems John and the conservatives made it illegal to criticize conservative politicians. And that was the end of the first conservative party, so it worked out OK. Seems many liberals thought The Alien and Sedition Act violated the Bill of Rights. The period after the conservative party died became known as the "Era of good feelings."

So sorry, but you will not be allowed to change the subject in order to shield the wannabe dictator, Franklin Delano Roosevelt.



Did Franklin Roosevelt deal a death blow to the Constitution...purposely and with aforethought....by seducing the Supreme Court?

Did the Supreme Court abrogate it's responsibility and its mandate by acquiescing to an unconstitutional agenda of Franklin Roosevelt?



Take your time.

Just thought I'd add a little accurate history to your musings. Since Marbury the Court has been a real love object of presidents, and there is a history of seductions with the Court. If the Court approved FDR's programs the nation has profited and history acknowledges the profiting, as do the American people.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Chic, how come you miss the first stab at the Constitution by our second president the conservative, John Adams? Seems John and the conservatives made it illegal to criticize conservative politicians. And that was the end of the first conservative party, so it worked out OK. Seems many liberals thought The Alien and Sedition Act violated the Bill of Rights. The period after the conservative party died became known as the "Era of good feelings."

So sorry, but you will not be allowed to change the subject in order to shield the wannabe dictator, Franklin Delano Roosevelt.



Did Franklin Roosevelt deal a death blow to the Constitution...purposely and with aforethought....by seducing the Supreme Court?

Did the Supreme Court abrogate it's responsibility and its mandate by acquiescing to an unconstitutional agenda of Franklin Roosevelt?



Take your time.

Just thought I'd add a little accurate history to your musings. Since Marbury the Court has been a real love object of presidents, and there is a history of seductions with the Court. If the Court approved FDR's programs the nation has profited and history acknowledges the profiting, as do the American people.

"If the Court approved FDR's programs the nation has profited and history acknowledges the profiting, as do the American people."


No doubt mafia families have "profited and history acknowledges the profiting" via their machinations, as well.


Rectitude, it seems, never enters into the calculations of folks like you.

What is your antipathy to the amendment process????




Now....why have you run from these queries?
Did Franklin Roosevelt deal a death blow to the Constitution...purposely and with aforethought....by seducing the Supreme Court?

Did the Supreme Court abrogate it's responsibility and its mandate by acquiescing to an unconstitutional agenda of Franklin Roosevelt?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Chic, how come you miss the first stab at the Constitution by our second president the conservative, John Adams? Seems John and the conservatives made it illegal to criticize conservative politicians. And that was the end of the first conservative party, so it worked out OK. Seems many liberals thought The Alien and Sedition Act violated the Bill of Rights. The period after the conservative party died became known as the "Era of good feelings."

So sorry, but you will not be allowed to change the subject in order to shield the wannabe dictator, Franklin Delano Roosevelt.



Did Franklin Roosevelt deal a death blow to the Constitution...purposely and with aforethought....by seducing the Supreme Court?

Did the Supreme Court abrogate it's responsibility and its mandate by acquiescing to an unconstitutional agenda of Franklin Roosevelt?



Take your time.

Just thought I'd add a little accurate history to your musings. Since Marbury the Court has been a real love object of presidents, and there is a history of seductions with the Court. If the Court approved FDR's programs the nation has profited and history acknowledges the profiting, as do the American people.

"Just thought I'd add a little accurate history to your musings."

1. Everything I post is accurate....as proven by your inability to find even a single error.

2. Avoid the use of the phrase "Just thought;" fact not in evidence.
We both know that you are no more than a tool of Liberal propaganda.

 

[PoliticalChic]

17. This would be a fine occasion to remind all that FDR's aim, above all, was to end any restrictions on his power....and that meant the Constitution.

And, this meant emasculating the Supreme Court.

“The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, selfappointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny. “
Federalist 47




"They had nothing in common other than the government’s view that federal power is virtually unlimited"... "
President Obama's Top 10 Constitutional Violations Of 2013

....exactly the hallmark of every totalitarian political view:

Communism, Nazism, Liberalism, socialism, Progressivism, and fascism.






18. Franklin Roosevelt’s infatuation with the use of power by other dictators fueled his disabling of our Constitution.

Compare FDR’s America with a real American President:
" Franklin Roosevelt had pictured a place where citizens were joined in a collective enterprise ... Reagan pictured a more individualistic America where everyone would flourish once freed from the shackles of the state, and so the watchwords became self-reliance and small government."
The Liberal Crackup


Mull this over:

To which should an American give his support, the Constitution, or to the current President of the moment?

 

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The Constitution was almost murdered by the FDR administration with the cooperation of the criminal conspiracy in the media but the document created by the Founding Fathers is stronger than any administration so far. It seems that the liberal media held their noses when FDR appointed a KKK member to the Supreme Court and Justice Black paid him back by writing the majority opinion that justified the incarceration of American citizens without due process. FDR tried to double down and force Congress to authorize another half dozen liberal hacks appointed to the Court and that was when things started to turn against the administration. The Constitution survived FDR and it remains strong today.