When FDR "Married" the US and the USSR

[Uncensored2008]

and the Koch family reaped the benefits.

As did George Soros, who owns your beloved Obama.

 

[Moonglow]

and the Koch family reaped the benefits.

As did George Soros, who owns your beloved Obama.

Then they are all communistic sympathizers.

 

[Uncensored2008]

FDR number one kiddo, who you got?
As for the Atom bomb in Korea, FDR must have sent them the plans for the "quiet bomb" some of us never even heard the thing go off.

"...some of us never even heard the thing go off."

You must be referring to education.




Number one President?

Easy.....

The finest President in the last century was the great Ronald Reagan.
He defeated FDR's beloved ally without firing a shot....

...and produced an economic boom that benefited every American.

And that's in juxtaposition to the man who extended the Depression (FDR).

Gorbachev was the president of the USA?

Just a friendly bit of advice, huff less spray paint.

 

[Moonglow]

"...some of us never even heard the thing go off."

You must be referring to education.




Number one President?

Easy.....

The finest President in the last century was the great Ronald Reagan.
He defeated FDR's beloved ally without firing a shot....

...and produced an economic boom that benefited every American.

And that's in juxtaposition to the man who extended the Depression (FDR).

Gorbachev was the president of the USA?

Just a friendly bit of advice, huff less spray paint.

Stay off the model glue.

Gorbachev had more to do with the downfall of the USSR than Reagan, also included are the people of the Soviet Bloc.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You have always been metaphorically face down in the slime when I finish with you.

That will always be the outcome when you make up nonsense like this.

Prove it, pea-brain.


Challenge any of my facts with facts.

Try....after all, you have no cachet nor reputation to maintain.

Neither do you, sweet pea.

When you craft a reasonable OP with factual evidence supporting logically your interpretation, I will play.

When we have, however, certain individuals like you programmed by their so-con viewpoints, then debating that is a waste of everyone's time and energy.

 

[PoliticalChic]

FDR number one kiddo, who you got?
As for the Atom bomb in Korea, FDR must have sent them the plans for the "quiet bomb" some of us never even heard the thing go off.

"...some of us never even heard the thing go off."

You must be referring to education.




Number one President?

Easy.....

The finest President in the last century was the great Ronald Reagan.
He defeated FDR's beloved ally without firing a shot....

...and produced an economic boom that benefited every American.

And that's in juxtaposition to the man who extended the Depression (FDR).

Gorbachev was the president of the USA?

Well...you certainly digested every Liberal lie.....

Gorbachev fell victim to the steel backbone of Reagan.
The Russian had no intention of doing so....but couldn't compete with a man of principles.



Proof?

No prob:


"At no point, however, did Gorbachev want to yield Moscow's pride of place as the number two superpower. And he was blissfully confident that the risks were tolerable: "There is no reason to fear the collapse or the end of socialism", Gorbachev assured Romanian leader Nicolae Ceausescu three weeks after the Berlin Wall had been breached and three weeks before the Romanian dictator was executed by his own people.

Reagan was made from far sterner stuff than was his Soviet counterpart. His genial grin and wise-cracking demeanor concealed a spine of steel when push came to shove. Yet at their next meeting in Reykjavik in 1986, where Gorbachev would not budge on the "Star Wars" question, Reagan was decisive and unforgiving. He recalls in An American Life how he stood up from the table to proclaim that the meeting was over. Then he turned to his Secretary of State: "Let's go, George. We're leaving."
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2751/is_77/ai_n6353166/pg_6/?tag=content;col1



Liberals shook in their shoes!
Not Reagan.

That sound heard at the table? FDR spinning in his grave.

Of course Liberals had to come up with a lie to keep Reagan from getting the credit due....
...and sure enough...you're still repeating the lie.

Good boy! Doggie treat?

 

[Unkotare]

Instead, FDR made the United States collaborators in the Katyn Forest Massacre, just as he turned a blind eye to the millions starved to death by his soul-mate, Joe Stalin.

What, and why, Roosevelt's enchantment with the Soviet Union?

He was a power-hungry opportunist (at best) who seemed to care nothing for the rights of our own citizens, let alone those of anyone else in the world. This made him susceptible to becoming a useful fool for a monster like Stalin - if not a little monster himself.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Prove it, pea-brain.


Challenge any of my facts with facts.

Try....after all, you have no cachet nor reputation to maintain.

Neither do you, sweet pea.

When you craft a reasonable OP with factual evidence supporting logically your interpretation, I will play.

When we have, however, certain individuals like you programmed by their so-con viewpoints, then debating that is a waste of everyone's time and energy.

"When you craft a reasonable OP with factual evidence supporting logically your interpretation, I will play."

No you won't, you liar.


There are six- seven links and sources in the OP.....

...and you haven't challenged any.





And here's another batch you won't be able to challenge:

1. Harry Hopkins,- FDR's alter ego, co-president, or Rasputin, "...the closest and most influential adviser to President Franklin D. Roosevelt during World War II, was a Soviet agent." and “the most important of all Soviet wartime agents in the United States.”
The Treachery Of Harry Hopkins


FDR had this spy live in the White House!



2. In a letter to FDR, dated January 29, 1943, Wm.Bullitt warned Roosevelt about what would happen if he continued pursuing the policies of appeasement toward Stalin that formed the foundation of the American war strategy.

He pleaded with FDR not to 'permit our war to prevent Nazi domination of Europe to be turned into a war to establish Soviet domination of Europe.' He predicted the Soviet annexation of half of Europe; George Kennan identified that letter as the earliest warning of what would be the result of FDR's policies. "
For the President Personal & Secret: Correspondence Between Franklin D. Roosevelt and William C. Bullitt," Orville H. Bullitt, p. 575-590


FDR replied: "Bill, I don't dispute your facts, they are accurate, I don't dispute the logic of your reasoning. I have just had a hunch that Stalin is not that kind of a man. Harry says he's not and that he doesn't want anything in the world but security for his country, and I think that if I give him everything I possibly can and ask nothing from him in return, noblesse oblige, he won't try to annex anything and will work with me for a world of democracy and peace."
William C. Bullitt, "How We Won The War and Lost The Peace," Life Magazine, August 30, 1948, p. 94





Did you get that????

"Stalin is not that kind of a man. Harry says he's not and that he doesn't want anything in the world but security for his country, and I think that if I give him everything I possibly can and ask nothing from him in return, noblesse oblige, he won't try to annex anything..."


Does that sound like a moron or what????


Oops...are you sensitive to "moron"?


Harry 'the spy' Hopkins tells FDR what to think!!!!!!






What is that....three more links/sources......

....and what have you got?

Nothing....just egg on your face.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Instead, FDR made the United States collaborators in the Katyn Forest Massacre, just as he turned a blind eye to the millions starved to death by his soul-mate, Joe Stalin.

What, and why, Roosevelt's enchantment with the Soviet Union?

He was a power-hungry opportunist (at best) who seemed to care nothing for the rights of our own citizens, let alone those of anyone else in the world. This made him susceptible to becoming a useful fool for a monster like Stalin - if not a little monster himself.

Here's my analysis:

He was a doctrinaire, narcissistic ideologue.....much like the one in the White House today.
He decided what reality was, and concluded that whatever he decided was right and would happen.

It's why he extended the Depression...made it worse.


Have you ever read how this megalomaniac set prices?

"As Henry Morgenthau reports in his diaries, prices were set by the president personally. FDR took the U.S. off the gold standard in April 1933, and by summer he was setting the gold price every morning from his bed. Morgenthau reports that at one point the president ordered the gold price up 21 cents. Why 21, Morgenthau asked. Roosevelt replied, because it’s 3 x 7, and three is a lucky number. “If anyone knew how we set the gold price,” wrote Morgenthau in his diary, “they would be frightened.”
https://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/archive/issue.asp?year=2010&month=09

 

[CrusaderFrank]

PC's solution is simple: the USA should have allied with Germany. OK.

Thanks will be removed asap

Meant to reply to Komrade Starkey.

Solution was to let Patton flatten as much of the Soviet war machine as he could forcing back to their border and sparing humanity the Cold War and Communist oppression of Eastern Europe

 

[regent]

PC's solution is simple: the USA should have allied with Germany. OK.

Thanks will be removed asap

Meant to reply to Komrade Starkey.

Solution was to let Patton flatten as much of the Soviet war machine as he could forcing back to their border and sparing humanity the Cold War and Communist oppression of Eastern Europe

Sounds like a board game of some type. "I move Patton into Russia. Now the USSR is wiped out and I win."
Patton may have loved extending the war a few more years, but I wonder about Patton's troops were they also anxious to tangle with the Soviet troops for some years to come? And what of the American people, were they for extending the war for a few more years with the ensuing casualties?
Would America have won? In any case the Cold War is over, Patton is dead and the Americans that would have died in that board game survived and some are still alive.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Stay off the model glue.

Gorbachev had more to do with the downfall of the USSR than Reagan, also included are the people of the Soviet Bloc.

Leftists cried themselves to sleep, until they came up with this pile of horseshit.

Problem is, it not only is false, it's fucking stupid.

Yeltsin faced down the tanks of your hero, moron.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

PC's solution is simple: the USA should have allied with Germany. OK.

Thanks will be removed asap

Meant to reply to Komrade Starkey.

Solution was to let Patton flatten as much of the Soviet war machine as he could forcing back to their border and sparing humanity the Cold War and Communist oppression of Eastern Europe

Sounds like a board game of some type. "I move Patton into Russia. Now the USSR is wiped out and I win."
Patton may have loved extending the war a few more years, but I wonder about Patton's troops were they also anxious to tangle with the Soviet troops for some years to come? And what of the American people, were they for extending the war for a few more years with the ensuing casualties?
Would America have won? In any case the Cold War is over, Patton is dead and the Americans that would have died in that board game survived and some are still alive.

Patton wrote in his diary that WWII was a strategic failure for the west because it traded one madman for another and, left great Europe capitals in the hands of the descendants of genghis khan

 

[regent]

Stay off the model glue.

Gorbachev had more to do with the downfall of the USSR than Reagan, also included are the people of the Soviet Bloc.

Leftists cried themselves to sleep, until they came up with this pile of horseshit.

Problem is, it not only is false, it's fucking stupid.

Yeltsin faced down the tanks of your hero, moron.

Of course, Gorbachev was most responsible for the end of the USSR. Gorbachev offered a a deal to Reagan that even Reagan was able to recognize as an opportunity for his administration and the nation. Reagan took the deal and for that we need to be grateful to Reagan, but it was Gorbachev that did the deed.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Of course, Gorbachev was most responsible for the end of the USSR. Gorbachev offered a a deal to Reagan that even Reagan was able to recognize as an opportunity for his administration and the nation. Reagan took the deal and for that we need to be grateful to Reagan, but it was Gorbachev that did the deed.

Ah leftism...

It's a form of mental retardation that carefully filters out reality and replaces it with party goals.

No, Gorby did not "end the USSR" and did everything he could, including murdering members of the Politburo, to stop the fall of the corrupt, evil empire.

And yes, Reagan was the cause of the fall of the USSR - which is PRECISELY why you hate him. He is the defiler of the dreams of the left.

But have no fear, Obama is here.....

 

[regent]

Of course, Gorbachev was most responsible for the end of the USSR. Gorbachev offered a a deal to Reagan that even Reagan was able to recognize as an opportunity for his administration and the nation. Reagan took the deal and for that we need to be grateful to Reagan, but it was Gorbachev that did the deed.

Ah leftism...

It's a form of mental retardation that carefully filters out reality and replaces it with party goals.

No, Gorby did not "end the USSR" and did everything he could, including murdering members of the Politburo, to stop the fall of the corrupt, evil empire.

And yes, Reagan was the cause of the fall of the USSR - which is PRECISELY why you hate him. He is the defiler of the dreams of the left.

But have no fear, Obama is here.....

Well that's what Republicans tell us, but historians tell us differently. Gee, who to believe?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Well that's what Republicans tell us, but historians tell us differently. Gee, who to believe?

LOL

Oh look, a pug over there is eating a pile of it's own shit...

And over there, a leftist, outright lying about the demise of the Soviet Union.

Disgusting in both cases, but so common that most folk just shrug and think "those are some really STUPID animals."

The biggest problem you have is that you're early. Before utterly rewriting history, you need to wait until those who lived through it die off, otherwise you get the "who the fuck are you trying to lie to" reaction that you got here.

Now no doubt that Howard Zinn and a few other leftist demagogues have made the claims you spew, but a sad fact for you is that electronic records abound. Yes, the left will lie, but ANYONE with an IQ about 60 can quickly gain the facts and expose your idiocy for what it is.

Did Gorby end the USSR? Nah, he sent tanks in. How do we know this? We have FUCKING VIDEO.

But hey, you have a party to serve, facts are in the way - you must dispense with them.