What's behind Obamas swing state surge?

Romney isn't offering anything of substance that would make people believe that a change would be better than staying the course.

A really good GOP candidate might be beating Obama at this point but Romney isn't even close to being a really good candidate.

This is hard to argue with. Romney just stays in his bubble, doesn't seem to want to create any waves.

Whatever Romney is doing....it isn't working

He needs to show he cares about the middle class
He needs to embrace the fact that he is rich and that he is out to help everyone
He needs to be more specific about what he will do to help the economy
He needs to release his tax returns and stand up for what he paid.
 
Republicans are running on a platform of "the economy sucks". This election will be determined by approximately ten swing states. What happens to the Republican plans when the economy in those states happens to be good?

Never discount like ability in an election. In most presidential elections the more likable candidate wins
Obama gets points for caring but loses on not having any answers.

However, the full effect of his "You didn't build that" speech hasn't fully kicked in.

Obama really fucked up when he said that. It was about as bad as the infamous Howard Dean "Scream".

If he fucked up when he said that, the polls didn't show it. He surged after the republican misinformation campaign

No, the Dems commissioned a new polster that gave them a poll they liked. Problem is their numbers don't jib with any other poll. Romney is leading Obama by two points.
 
Romney isn't offering anything of substance that would make people believe that a change would be better than staying the course.

A really good GOP candidate might be beating Obama at this point but Romney isn't even close to being a really good candidate.

This is hard to argue with. Romney just stays in his bubble, doesn't seem to want to create any waves.

Whatever Romney is doing....it isn't working

He needs to show he cares about the middle class
He needs to embrace the fact that he is rich and that he is out to help everyone
He needs to be more specific about what he will do to help the economy
He needs to release his tax returns and stand up for what he paid.

I brought it up yesterday but I think it fits here too:

I don't think his staff is up for this. They were not really tested in the primaries. Whenever they had a target...errr...opponent; they just outspent them, personally destroyed them, and moved on to the next victim.

President Obama has 2 advantages.

The first big one is that he's well funded although he's not as well funded as the Governor. That doesn't matter as much because at a certain point, funding becomes academic; there are only so many undecideds to start with and there is only so much TV air time that can be bought and only so many swing states it can be bought in.

The 2nd big advantage is that the voters know Obama. In some places, they don't like him, in many places they do. In most of the country, they are in the same place I'm in; he's good but not great. Attack ads don't get much traction when the voters know the target. The voters in Florida didn't know Rick Santorum very well. Their first introduction in some cases was Governor Romney's attack ads. That won't work on President Obama.
 
This is hard to argue with. Romney just stays in his bubble, doesn't seem to want to create any waves.

Whatever Romney is doing....it isn't working

He needs to show he cares about the middle class
He needs to embrace the fact that he is rich and that he is out to help everyone
He needs to be more specific about what he will do to help the economy
He needs to release his tax returns and stand up for what he paid.

I brought it up yesterday but I think it fits here too:

I don't think his staff is up for this. They were not really tested in the primaries. Whenever they had a target...errr...opponent; they just outspent them, personally destroyed them, and moved on to the next victim.

President Obama has 2 advantages.

The first big one is that he's well funded although he's not as well funded as the Governor. That doesn't matter as much because at a certain point, funding becomes academic; there are only so many undecideds to start with and there is only so much TV air time that can be bought and only so many swing states it can be bought in.

The 2nd big advantage is that the voters know Obama. In some places, they don't like him, in many places they do. In most of the country, they are in the same place I'm in; he's good but not great. Attack ads don't get much traction when the voters know the target. The voters in Florida didn't know Rick Santorum very well. Their first introduction in some cases was Governor Romney's attack ads. That won't work on President Obama.

Obama and his press have thrown everything at Romney and he's still leading him. Romney is waiting till after the conventions to let loose with the big guns because of a couple of reasons.

He doesn't want Obama to panic and drop Joe Biden, and he wants to save his cash for September and October. Obama is getting tons of free help from the media and from Dems like Harry Reid willing to make up shit about Romney out of the thin air. They set him up and falsely reported gaffes while he was overseas to take away any benefit he may have gotten from meeting with foreign leaders. Every issue they've dreamed up about Romney is a statement of hypocrisy on Obama's part, from his failure to release his records, to his terrible diplomatic choices, to his aloof out of touch snobbery constantly on display. The final comment was claiming Romney never takes questions when everyone knows Obama doesn't ether.

I figure the debates will separate these two. The press asks the questions and they will be geared to help Obama. Then no matter what happens the talking-heads will declare Obama the victor and lose even more credibility.
 

You need 270 to win.

Obama had 290 last week. Romney had under 200 so Romney is gaining.

The Obama camp must be shitting themselves.

Care to make a sig line wager or will you remember you're a pussy and run off too?
Obama has it in the bag. Start planning on 2016 now and beat the rush.
 
Whatever Romney is doing....it isn't working

He needs to show he cares about the middle class
He needs to embrace the fact that he is rich and that he is out to help everyone
He needs to be more specific about what he will do to help the economy
He needs to release his tax returns and stand up for what he paid.

I brought it up yesterday but I think it fits here too:

I don't think his staff is up for this. They were not really tested in the primaries. Whenever they had a target...errr...opponent; they just outspent them, personally destroyed them, and moved on to the next victim.

President Obama has 2 advantages.

The first big one is that he's well funded although he's not as well funded as the Governor. That doesn't matter as much because at a certain point, funding becomes academic; there are only so many undecideds to start with and there is only so much TV air time that can be bought and only so many swing states it can be bought in.

The 2nd big advantage is that the voters know Obama. In some places, they don't like him, in many places they do. In most of the country, they are in the same place I'm in; he's good but not great. Attack ads don't get much traction when the voters know the target. The voters in Florida didn't know Rick Santorum very well. Their first introduction in some cases was Governor Romney's attack ads. That won't work on President Obama.

Obama and his press have thrown everything at Romney and he's still leading him. Romney is waiting till after the conventions to let loose with the big guns because of a couple of reasons.
It's been demonstrated over and over again that President Obama has an electoral vote edge on Governor Romney. Even Rasmussen isn't that slanted and admits it too.

He doesn't want Obama to panic and drop Joe Biden, and he wants to save his cash for September and October.

You're a political neophyte if you believe the former and the latter isn't working. Governor Romney is being defined as an elitist snob right now and it won't wash away so easily.

Obama is getting tons of free help from the media and from Dems like Harry Reid willing to make up shit about Romney out of the thin air. They set him up and falsely reported gaffes while he was overseas to take away any benefit he may have gotten from meeting with foreign leaders. Every issue they've dreamed up about Romney is a statement of hypocrisy on Obama's part, from his failure to release his records, to his terrible diplomatic choices, to his aloof out of touch snobbery constantly on display.
If that is the case (which it isn't), boo hoo. What is actually happening is that Romney's trip abroad was ill conceived, a gaffe-fest of epic proportions, did nothing to strengthen his foreign policy chops (he should have met leaders at the UN ala Palin in 08).

The final comment was claiming Romney never takes questions when everyone knows Obama doesn't ether.
Again, boo-hoo. The fact was that the Governor was not taking questions. Right?

I figure the debates will separate these two. The press asks the questions and they will be geared to help Obama. Then no matter what happens the talking-heads will declare Obama the victor and lose even more credibility.

The debates will be basically co-hosted infomercials. Neither side will get a bump outside of some sort of gaffe by either candidate.

Don't you get tired of playing the victim?
 
Obama: 247 - Romney: 206 - according to Rasmussen.

Obama has it in the bag.

You need 270 to win.

Obama had 290 last week. Romney had under 200 so Romney is gaining.

The Obama camp must be shitting themselves.

Care to make a sig line wager or will you remember you're a pussy and run off too?
Obama has it in the bag. Start planning on 2016 now and beat the rush.

Taking into account that Obama has a history of cheating, that the media is willing to lie for him, and that he is currently leading in electoral votes chances are he may pull it out. Because he only has to win 13 states he has a better chance.

If this was an honest straight up election Obama loses easily. Even if he loses in a squeaker I expect this election to make the 2000 election look tame. Obama is as dishonest as they come. Bribery, thuggery, despicable conduct, the worst is yet to be revealed.

I don't know what good a bet will do. Besides, I don't gamble. I usually get it with skill, not luck.
 
1. Many voters think Romney doesn't care about them
"Mitt Romney started this campaign with a problem: An image as a wealthy elitist, out of touch with middle-class life," say David A. Fahrenthold and Aaron Blake at The Washington Post. And the new polls show that "Romney still hasn't overcome that first impression."

2. Obama's attack ads are working
The Obama campaign has spent millions of dollars in all three states to air brutal ads attacking Romney's tenure at private equity firm Bain Capital and his refusal to release several years of tax returns. The effects of that assault shows in the polls, with many likely voters expressing "concerns over his business background and his reluctance to release more of his tax returns,"

3. Women overwhelmingly support Obama
"The president's strength among women is the dominant dynamic fueling his lead," says Peter Brown at Quinnipiac. About 60 percent of women in Ohio and Pennsylvania support Obama, as do half of women in Florida.

4. Voters agree with Obama on raising taxes on the rich
Obama "drew broad support from voters in each state for a proposal to raise income taxes on people whose household income is more than $250,000,"

5. Swing states have relatively low unemployment rates
Obama could be benefiting from "lower swing-state unemployment rates," says Niall Stanage at The Hill. Ohio's unemployment rate of 7.3 percent is lower than the national rate of 8.2 percent, which might make the lackluster economy less of a factor in the Buckeye State. In addition, Florida's economy appears to be improving, which could also make Obama a more palatable candidate.

6. The economy is no longer a major factor
"Usually voter preferences of an incumbent candidate track closely with the trajectory of the economy," but that's not happening this year, says Josh Kraushaar at The National Journal. It's possible that voters feel neither candidate can fix the economy's problems, and are instead voting on other factors, such as likability.

What's behind President Obama's swing-state surge? 6 theories - The Week
If they do not like Romney, then they should absolutely despise obamaturd, he doesn't care one iota for Americans. Also, you are way off on your points.
 
You need 270 to win.

Obama had 290 last week. Romney had under 200 so Romney is gaining.

The Obama camp must be shitting themselves.

Care to make a sig line wager or will you remember you're a pussy and run off too?
Obama has it in the bag. Start planning on 2016 now and beat the rush.

Taking into account that Obama has a history of cheating, that the media is willing to lie for him, and that he is currently leading in electoral votes chances are he may pull it out. Because he only has to win 13 states he has a better chance.

If this was an honest straight up election Obama loses easily. Even if he loses in a squeaker I expect this election to make the 2000 election look tame. Obama is as dishonest as they come. Bribery, thuggery, despicable conduct, the worst is yet to be revealed.

I don't know what good a bet will do. Besides, I don't gamble. I usually get it with skill, not luck.

Muddy is conceding and it's only August

Obama is a cheater
The election isn't honest
Bribery
Thuggery
Despicable conduct
 
Care to make a sig line wager or will you remember you're a pussy and run off too?
Obama has it in the bag. Start planning on 2016 now and beat the rush.

Taking into account that Obama has a history of cheating, that the media is willing to lie for him, and that he is currently leading in electoral votes chances are he may pull it out. Because he only has to win 13 states he has a better chance.

If this was an honest straight up election Obama loses easily. Even if he loses in a squeaker I expect this election to make the 2000 election look tame. Obama is as dishonest as they come. Bribery, thuggery, despicable conduct, the worst is yet to be revealed.

I don't know what good a bet will do. Besides, I don't gamble. I usually get it with skill, not luck.

Muddy is conceding and it's only August

Obama is a cheater
The election isn't honest
Bribery
Thuggery
Despicable conduct

That is not a concession.

But if it makes you feel better....go with it. Maybe it will help you deal with the depression as Obama's campaign slowly falls apart the next few months.
 
Taking into account that Obama has a history of cheating, that the media is willing to lie for him, and that he is currently leading in electoral votes chances are he may pull it out. Because he only has to win 13 states he has a better chance.

If this was an honest straight up election Obama loses easily. Even if he loses in a squeaker I expect this election to make the 2000 election look tame. Obama is as dishonest as they come. Bribery, thuggery, despicable conduct, the worst is yet to be revealed.

I don't know what good a bet will do. Besides, I don't gamble. I usually get it with skill, not luck.

Muddy is conceding and it's only August

Obama is a cheater
The election isn't honest
Bribery
Thuggery
Despicable conduct

That is not a concession.

But if it makes you feel better....go with it. Maybe it will help you deal with the depression as Obama's campaign slowly falls apart the next few months.

It will have to fall apart if Romney has a prayer of winning.

Romney better pull off something in the next few months or he is headed for a humiliating defeat
 
I haven't looked, but who's ahead in the polling?

1. Many voters think Romney doesn't care about them
"Mitt Romney started this campaign with a problem: An image as a wealthy elitist, out of touch with middle-class life," say David A. Fahrenthold and Aaron Blake at The Washington Post. And the new polls show that "Romney still hasn't overcome that first impression."

2. Obama's attack ads are working
The Obama campaign has spent millions of dollars in all three states to air brutal ads attacking Romney's tenure at private equity firm Bain Capital and his refusal to release several years of tax returns. The effects of that assault shows in the polls, with many likely voters expressing "concerns over his business background and his reluctance to release more of his tax returns,"

3. Women overwhelmingly support Obama
"The president's strength among women is the dominant dynamic fueling his lead," says Peter Brown at Quinnipiac. About 60 percent of women in Ohio and Pennsylvania support Obama, as do half of women in Florida.

4. Voters agree with Obama on raising taxes on the rich
Obama "drew broad support from voters in each state for a proposal to raise income taxes on people whose household income is more than $250,000,"

5. Swing states have relatively low unemployment rates
Obama could be benefiting from "lower swing-state unemployment rates," says Niall Stanage at The Hill. Ohio's unemployment rate of 7.3 percent is lower than the national rate of 8.2 percent, which might make the lackluster economy less of a factor in the Buckeye State. In addition, Florida's economy appears to be improving, which could also make Obama a more palatable candidate.

6. The economy is no longer a major factor
"Usually voter preferences of an incumbent candidate track closely with the trajectory of the economy," but that's not happening this year, says Josh Kraushaar at The National Journal. It's possible that voters feel neither candidate can fix the economy's problems, and are instead voting on other factors, such as likability.

What's behind President Obama's swing-state surge? 6 theories - The Week

Ohio's low unemployment rate is due to the fact that it has a Republican Govenor who made the necessary changes in policy to move Ohio forward. He didn't sit on his ass and wait for the inept democrats to do it.

so your dumb ass fails again.
 
You need 270 to win.

Obama had 290 last week. Romney had under 200 so Romney is gaining.

The Obama camp must be shitting themselves.

Care to make a sig line wager or will you remember you're a pussy and run off too?
Obama has it in the bag. Start planning on 2016 now and beat the rush.

Taking into account that Obama has a history of cheating, that the media is willing to lie for him, and that he is currently leading in electoral votes chances are he may pull it out. Because he only has to win 13 states he has a better chance.

If this was an honest straight up election Obama loses easily. Even if he loses in a squeaker I expect this election to make the 2000 election look tame. Obama is as dishonest as they come. Bribery, thuggery, despicable conduct, the worst is yet to be revealed.

I don't know what good a bet will do. Besides, I don't gamble. I usually get it with skill, not luck.

Yeah, I see all your merit badges there brownie scout. Skill...sure right.

Just another all talk conserve-hate-ive. Promise so much yet deliver so little.

PS: Want some cheese with your whine?:wine:
 

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