Whatever happened to "Republicans"???

Maggie, there never was a clear political republican party. Without getting fancy and a bit tongue in cheek, I offer up that what was the so called unified republican party was a hodgepodge of fundies, one issue voters, anti gay, racists, capitalists pigs, crooks and robbers, corporate crooks, anti union, anti humanism, pro prayer in school, militant nutcases, and libertarian children from money with no sense of reality. You still see the last on Redstate, DP, USMB etc. Given this assortment of wackos is it any wonder they did not govern nor lead nor do anything very well? This group still exists as evident everyday right here, but there for a while they got some moderates to buy into their party of NO.

Well...I'm still ever the optimist. I know plenty of decent compassionate Republicans who wouldn't fit into any of your categories. Admitedly, they're becoming a rare breed, however. But I would still like to see the 2-parties admit their mistakes and move on, like with a revised "Contract With America" which outlines a concensus of the best each party has to offer and start all over with that.


Neither party will ever be based in common sense. Special interest controls both parties, the party representatives are puppets of their special interest groups.

But you defend the GOP special interest.

We complain when our Democrats do it. And you sure as hell complain when you catch a Dem doing this.

So why don't you complain about the GOP bending over for corporations? Hell, you defend it.

What makes your special interest any better that you vote for it and defend it for 8 years as it ruined America.
 
Which corporations did George Bush bend over for that Barack Obama is not bending over for? The corporations that "ruined America" that is.

Which corporations "ruined America?" Is there a generally accepted list of the ones that did and the ones that did not?
 
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No one's buying this. What happened is that they finally got full control of government and they did exactly what they always wanted.

Socialize the losses and privatize the profits.
Break government so they could end social programs for the poor
Launch a war in the middle east, disaster capitalism.

And the Robber Baron's gobbled up all the $. Did they go too far? Hell no. Heck, you don't even realize they did it. You're stilll blaming the government.

In business, there are always winners and losers. So, who won? When your 401K took a dump and Walllstreet collapsed, where did all that money go? Who won?

The bankers won. And you still side with the GOP who helped the bankers fuck us.

Are the Dems angels? No, but they are way better than the GOP.

You don't make enough money to be a Republican. Do you understand that?
Don't mistake your imbecilic opinions for those of "everyone".

Name just one program for the sainted poooooooooooor, in eight years, that republicans moved to shut down.

Just one.

They knew it would be foolish politics to "shut down" some of the more successful programs, like Head Start, but the Bush congress made sure that most government "social" programs were either level funded or cut, everything from block grants to the states to job training for people who lost their jobs to outsourcing.
 
No one's buying this. What happened is that they finally got full control of government and they did exactly what they always wanted.

Socialize the losses and privatize the profits.
Break government so they could end social programs for the poor
Launch a war in the middle east, disaster capitalism.

And the Robber Baron's gobbled up all the $. Did they go too far? Hell no. Heck, you don't even realize they did it. You're stilll blaming the government.

In business, there are always winners and losers. So, who won? When your 401K took a dump and Walllstreet collapsed, where did all that money go? Who won?

The bankers won. And you still side with the GOP who helped the bankers fuck us.

Are the Dems angels? No, but they are way better than the GOP.

You don't make enough money to be a Republican. Do you understand that?
Don't mistake your imbecilic opinions for those of "everyone".

Name just one program for the sainted poooooooooooor, in eight years, that republicans moved to shut down.

Just one.

They knew it would be foolish politics to "shut down" some of the more successful programs, like Head Start, but the Bush congress made sure that most government "social" programs were either level funded or cut, everything from block grants to the states to job training for people who lost their jobs to outsourcing.

Besides taxing jobs and corporations out of the country, what are Barack Obama's policies relative to outsourcing?

With the economy bleeding 600,000 jobs a month, exactly what should Barack Obama train them for?
 
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They knew it would be foolish politics to "shut down" some of the more successful programs, like Head Start, but the Bush congress made sure that most government "social" programs were either level funded or cut, everything from block grants to the states to job training for people who lost their jobs to outsourcing.
I'll score that one "ZERO", the lefty boilerplate sniveling points nonwithstanding.

And I hate to break it to you...But over 2/3 of Shrubbie's spending spree was on DOMESTIC PROGRAMS!!

You lose again.
 
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So true, notice coverage of issues that affect everywoman: poor wages, poverty, lack of jobs, poor or no healthcare, corporate outsourcing, the corporate owned media never covers tough issues.At least at one time, they covered tough issues but corporate ownership forced them all to play the game. If you don't play the game you are marginalized.
You mean like corporate ownership of several cable and satellite outlets (GE/NBC/Universal) pimps for the anthropogenic global warming hoax, and overtly shilled for Barry Obolshevik during and after the election??

I can't imagine the shit attack socialist bedwetters would have, if Northrup-Grumman owned a score of teevee networks and had "pro war" week.

You've met the enemy, pal, and he is you.

Last I looked, General Electric was a big defense contractor in addition to cable news owner. But hey, don't you Conazis continue to remind us how much more popular those news and TV outlets owned by News Corp are? Talkin' outta both sides of yer mouf are ya?
 
I tend to disagree.

The media merely sticks its mics and points its cameras at the evangelical loons, in order to create a boogerman for people to fear and deride.

Remember that dumb twirp from CNN covering the tea parties, who was only seeking out the kookiest people she could find for her interviews??....You think that was the only place that kind of thing goes on??

The problem then is the LMSM? I don't know about that.

The wingnuts tend to get their own crazy muggs on any camera they can find. It's the radical policies of the past 10 years or so. News media do shove the mics in the faces of the weirdest people there but that isn't what completely killed the Republicans dead.

The Dems were almost dead there for awhile but they found leadership and policies they could believe in and more they were policies America could get behind.

The difference is that while Democrats may have "blue dogs" and "liberals" and "moderates," they continue to always, ALWAYS have ground rules that never change the face of the party as a whole.
 
I tend to disagree.

The media merely sticks its mics and points its cameras at the evangelical loons, in order to create a boogerman for people to fear and deride.

Remember that dumb twirp from CNN covering the tea parties, who was only seeking out the kookiest people she could find for her interviews??....You think that was the only place that kind of thing goes on??

The problem then is the LMSM? I don't know about that.

The wingnuts tend to get their own crazy muggs on any camera they can find. It's the radical policies of the past 10 years or so. News media do shove the mics in the faces of the weirdest people there but that isn't what completely killed the Republicans dead.

The Dems were almost dead there for awhile but they found leadership and policies they could believe in and more they were policies America could get behind.

The difference is that while Democrats may have "blue dogs" and "liberals" and "moderates," they continue to always, ALWAYS have ground rules that never change the face of the party as a whole.

does joe lieberman know about this?
:lol::lol:
 
So true, notice coverage of issues that affect everywoman: poor wages, poverty, lack of jobs, poor or no healthcare, corporate outsourcing, the corporate owned media never covers tough issues.At least at one time, they covered tough issues but corporate ownership forced them all to play the game. If you don't play the game you are marginalized.
You mean like corporate ownership of several cable and satellite outlets (GE/NBC/Universal) pimps for the anthropogenic global warming hoax, and overtly shilled for Barry Obolshevik during and after the election??

I can't imagine the shit attack socialist bedwetters would have, if Northrup-Grumman owned a score of teevee networks and had "pro war" week.

You've met the enemy, pal, and he is you.

Last I looked, General Electric was a big defense contractor in addition to cable news owner. But hey, don't you Conazis continue to remind us how much more popular those news and TV outlets owned by News Corp are? Talkin' outta both sides of yer mouf are ya?

General Electric has reinvented itself and its corporatism for the new regime.

I urge you to read up on that.

Are they still "ruining America?"
 
The problem then is the LMSM? I don't know about that.

The wingnuts tend to get their own crazy muggs on any camera they can find. It's the radical policies of the past 10 years or so. News media do shove the mics in the faces of the weirdest people there but that isn't what completely killed the Republicans dead.

The Dems were almost dead there for awhile but they found leadership and policies they could believe in and more they were policies America could get behind.
The same thing happens with libertarians.

Rather than pay attention to the sensible and reasonable, like John Stossel or Ed Thompson (the brother of former WI governor Tommy), media types focus on the moonbats, like troofers.

Claiming that the policies of the last 10 years or so are "radical", when they've more resembled the policies of far left radicals like LBJ, is an interesting claim....Especially when we're talking about republicans here.

Claiming that the dems have found "leadership" in the likes of Harry Reid and Nancy Paxiolsi is laughable, at best.

Like Denny Hastert (mouthpiece for Tom DeLay) and Bill Frist were any different? Doesn't matter, though, the congressional leadership is selected by the congressional membership, not the people. All they do is steer the direction of bills as they meander through the process. But unless there is a strong president with a strong executive branch liaison, those leaders WILL go off in their own direction, as did DeLay and as did Pelosi. Bush got blindsided (Medicare Part D), and Obama got blindsided (Stim Bill).
 
I like Pelosi, she never was good in interviews. Maybe she needs a teleprompter.
What she needs to do is resign her position and get off the anti-depressant meds.

Why, because a guy who has never liked her wants her to resign?

You guys don't run our party.

They don't even have any say in their own party, whatever that is. Which was my original question. People like Dude and Diver are the 5% fringe element of the rabid right, about as UN-American as you can get.
 
Better than Tom Delay, Boehner, Newt, Dennis Hastert.

You guys will bash them, but look how many seats they picked up this year. Are you jealous? Hater!!
Saying that you can do the triple-jump better than some dudes on crutches doesn't speak to any particular athletic prowess on your part, bozo.

Not even a nice try at a 2nd grade deflection.

I can give you specifics on how Tom Delay fucked over the American people. And he was corrupt. GUILTY!!! ABRAMOFF!!!!

Oh yea, he gave a few Dems some $ too so they could "share" responsibility if he ever got caught. You guys never take the blame for anything.

Its either

a. All the Dems fault
b. Everyones fault
c. Never the GOP's fault

What don't you like about the current leadership?

What did you like about the GOP leadership? Did you like them selling America cheap to foreign interest? Did you like how they doubled the debt? Did you like their lying us into the war? How about when Mark Foley was preying on young Washington Pages and trying to rape underage boys and Hastert was covering it up before the 06 election?

And the same thing they are doing to Pelosi with torture, they tried to do to her with the Mark Foley story. They tried to make the story about, "when did Pelosi know about Foley".

Republicans never take the blame for anything. No wonder you think they are great.

:eusa_shhh: You're not supposed to mention the past. This is OBAMA'S MESS NOW, remember? All of the nations woes began on January 21, 2009.
 
:eusa_shhh: You're not supposed to mention the past. This is OBAMA'S MESS NOW, remember? All of the nations woes began on January 21, 2009.

Really? How come Obama can claim to do everything better and more honest and more environmentally responsible and more worldwise than Bush....EXCEPT the economy?
 

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