Zone1 What you were never told about Revelation: A revaluation and reassessment

[DudleySmith]

Most of the prophecies are predictions of the outcomes of human nature; the bible is a work of human psyche, character flaws, failures of logic, failures of good intentions, etc., etc., along with lots of advice on positive ways of producing good outcomes, and it is all a matter of choices. Whether they are 'magic' or products of shrewd intellectual analysis are really distinctions without a difference re the result of human choices and group actions. This is why it is historically important as a comprehensive guide and essentially timeless as a work of art and philosophy. It is complete as written and intended.

It is also the accurate ancient translations in world history, and nobody rewrote it just because some Emperor told them to and all the other absurd rubbish those who don't like what is said in it re some topic or other and want to rewrite it to suit their own egos. Appreciate it for what it is and not for what you want to force it to be.

 

[Cougarbear]

Of course it's first century. Read some history. Gog and Magog are from Lydia and Eastern Iran. They invaded 500 years earlier. Lots of countries gathered at Megiddo to fight under Vespasian against Jerusalem.

500 years earlier. Just goes to show again that Revelation was not about the 1st Century. Thanks for sharing...

 

[Cougarbear]

So you either have reading problems or you just need to revise what is written to suit your own revisions.

Jesus condemned the Jewish leadership and they in return condemned Jesus to the Cross.

 

[surada]

500 years earlier. Just goes to show again that Revelation was not about the 1st Century. Thanks for sharing...

Haven't you read about them? The stragglers settled Scythiopolis.

 

[surada]

Because it was relevant to the churches...

Exactly. That's why the letter was written to them, not the 21st century.

 

[surada]

The Mark of the Beast is really the warning for those in the future.

Don't accept a mark they will insist you have on your right hand or forehead.

This is why the Left, or globalists, will insist on destroying either Christians or those prophecies.

Imagine an implant that can track you and keep track of all our financial transactions and probably be a way to monitor such things as your body activity and a source of your medical information, etc. It will be ruthlessly efficient, and the technology is already there and being used, like how they chip your pet.

It's not a matter of if now, but when.

The Mark of the Beast was the coin of the Roman empire with the head of Caesar engraved on it. You couldn't buy or sell without it.

 

[Cougarbear]

Haven't you read about them? The stragglers settled Scythiopolis.

You haven't read the Bible correctly. You lack the Spirit of Revelation and Prophecy. John died at the end of the 1st Century. So, you are completely illogical on your reasoning. Revelation is for the end of days, last days, latter days...

 

[surada]

You haven't read the Bible correctly. You lack the Spirit of Revelation and Prophecy. John died at the end of the 1st Century. So, you are completely illogical on your reasoning. Revelation is for the end of days, last days, latter days...

norwegen

Did the Mormons tell you when John of Patmos died? Revelation is a letter to the 7 churches about what happened in the first century..a generation after the crucifixion.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Exactly. That's why the letter was written to them, not the 21st century.

Then and now...
If 2000, years ago, someone wrote to avoid poison hemlock, it would be as applicable today as it was then.
But Revelation doesn't switch between then and now. It concerns the future return of Christ and what Christ did was to set the stage immediately prior to his return, and he started by addressing our churches. Revelation doesn't switch between John's time and ours. It stays focused on the future. That is how we know what churches Christ was referring to...

 

[surada]

Then and now...
If 2000, years ago, someone wrote to avoid poison hemlock, it would be as applicable today as it was then.
But Revelation doesn't switch between then and now. It concerns the future return of Christ and what Christ did was to set the stage immediately prior to his return, and he started by addressing our churches. Revelation doesn't switch between John's time and ours. It stays focused on the future. That is how we know what churches Christ was referring to...

Lolol it's not focused on the future at all.

 

[The Irish Ram]

The Mark of the Beast was the coin of the Roman empire with the head of Caesar engraved on it. You couldn't buy or sell without it.

That simply isn't true. There were many coins being used at the time. That is why their were money exchangers at the Temple....

 

[The Irish Ram]

Lolol it's not focused on the future at all.

Then, where is He??????????

 

[surada]

Then, where is He??????????

Don't you think he returned? This is a spiritual thing not literal.. This isn't some supernatural circus.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Lolol it's not focused on the future at all.

It is indeed but you don't have the ability to understand it.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Don't you think he returned? This is a spiritual thing not literal.. This isn't some supernatural circus.

Has this happened yet?

Revelation 1:7

New King James Version

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7 Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Don't you think he returned? This is a spiritual thing not literal.. This isn't some supernatural circus.

And the 1,000 years of peace?
When was the gospel spread worldwide?
What 7 year peace treaty did Israel broker with Caesar?
When did Caesar sit in the Temple?
Is Damascus still rubble?
Which spear of Caesar's could dissolve a tongue while the victim was still standing?
When did the world watch 2 prophets rise from the dead 3 and 1/2 days after they were murdered? Was that on MSNBCaesar?

It is all literal, and you have no idea what is coming. That's a shame. Christ's warnings have passed you by. You can rely on your own understanding. I will rely on Christ...

 

[surada]

And the 1,000 years of peace?
When was the gospel spread worldwide?
What 7 year peace treaty did Israel broker with Caesar?
When did Caesar sit in the Temple?
Is Damascus still rubble?
Which spear of Caesar's could dissolve a tongue while the victim was still standing?
When did the world watch 2 prophets rise from the dead 3 and 1/2 days after they were murdered? Was that on MSNBCaesar?

It is all literal, and you have no idea what is coming. That's a shame. Christ's warnings have passed you by. You can rely on your own understanding. I will rely on Christ...

You're relying on Hal Lindsey and the Scofield heresy.

 

[norwegen]

norwegen

Did the Mormons tell you when John of Patmos died? Revelation is a letter to the 7 churches about what happened in the first century..a generation after the crucifixion.

Audience relevance eludes a lot of people.

 

[JustAGuy1]

You're relying on Hal Lindsey and the Scofield heresy.

You're relying on Hal Lindsey and the Scofield heresy.

Has this happened yet?

Revelation 1:7

New King James Version
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7 Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him.

 

[surada]

Audience relevance eludes a lot of people.

Some claim John of Patmos was boiled in oil.