"What...me worry?" - Donald Rumsfeld

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    <center><h1><a href=http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/military/20040416-9999-7m16zinni.html>Warnings ignored, says retired Marine</a></h1></center>

    By Rick Rogers

    <blockquote>April 16, 2004

    Retired Marine Gen. Anthony Zinni wondered aloud yesterday how Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld could be caught off guard by the chaos in Iraq that has killed nearly 100 Americans in recent weeks and led to his announcement that 20,000 U.S. troops would be staying there instead of returning home as planned.

    "I'm surprised that he is surprised because there was a lot of us who were telling him that it was going to be thus," said Zinni, a Marine for 39 years and the former commander of the U.S. Central Command. "Anyone could know the problems they were going to see. How could they not?"</blockquote>

    The utter lack of post war planning is evident to all but the mentally deficient. The Administration preffered the ideologically driven advice of the chickenhawk neo-cons over the reccomendations of seasoned field commanders. Such incompetence should be severely punished.
     
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    This could be the one that sticks, however, it seems to have been briefly hit and rolled over by the media. Don't expect this to make the papers again.
     
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    History is written by the ideological few. And history is kind to those who write it.

    The "post-war planning" is fine. Fine. We suspected the Iraqi military would give up. Instead, like cowards, they ran away. So we had to build up the entire Iraqi police force and military again. It's hard tough work. We're facing a new kind of war in Afghanistan and Iraq... terrorist warfare. We're tougher than them. We'll stomach it.

    This is exactly the kind of splash we needed to make post-9/11. We've lost 700 troops in Iraq and 150 in Afghanistan. Those deaths won't be for nothing.
     
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    Well, if you consider what you see as "fine" you really need to have the prescription for you eyeglasses, or your anti-psychotics, checked.
     
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    We are taking the war to the terrorists and eliminating those governments that aide and abed terrorists.a clear message is being sent worldwide that if you do support international terrorism you will lose your position of power,you will be hunted down,you will be tried and convicted and you will be punished for your crimes.we can fight this war on foreign soil or u.s. soil but this war is going to be fought (terrorists have no intention of stopping their violent ways).terrorists are siphoning into iraq and the war is being fought there instead of here.we cannot afford to sit back and be reactive we must become pro-active in locating and destroying terrorists and those who support them.
     
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    There was, and is, no link between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein. The "War on Terrorism" has been badly mismanaged as a result of Dubbyuh's chubby for Saddam.
     
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    Can you point out to me where he stated this?

    There WAS a link between Saddam an various terrorist organizations and not to mention his paying off the suicide bombers $25k apiece. Then add in the resolutions. He needed to be removed. He was.
     
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    LA Times, September 18, 2003

    President Bush said Wednesday that there was no proof tying Saddam Hussein to the Sept. 11 attacks, amid mounting criticism that senior administration officials have helped lead Americans to believe that Iraq was behind the plot.
     
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    This won't make the papers because the media is afraid of the Bush administration. There was NO link between Sadaam and Al Qaida. Al Qaida had nothing to do with the suicide bombers is Israel. Those are totally separate terrorists. What we in this country either don't understand or haven't been told is that there are literally hundreds and even thousands of terror groups in the middle east and they don't all like each other. For example, Hizbollah and Hamas hate each other, though they agree on Israel. Why do they hate each other? Simple, they practice different forms of Islam, Hizbollah is Shi'ite and Hamas is Sunni.

    Rumsfeld, Bush & Co. had NO plan, have had no plan, and I don't see any plans coming out in the near future.

    As for the quote from Bush, he was talking out of both sides of his mouth in order to try and cover both sides of his ass.

    acludem
     
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    I guess comprehension isn't one of your strongest points?

    Bully made a point of pointing that out to preempting, who never stated that to begin with. I was asking him to point out where he stated that - because otherwise there wouldn't have been a reason to inject Al Qaeda into the discussion when it wasn't there previously.

    Funny how some will use Bush's statement to prove no link, but then cry all the time that Bush did state there was a connection. Make up your mind guys!
     

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