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If the dumocrats thought the debt limit was of major importance they should have raised it 7 months ago before they were out of office. They ran up the bill when they passed the stimulus so they should have secured the line of credit first. The assholes did not even pass a budget when they were in power. Stupid - stupid - stupid!!!!!!
blah blah...end result, the republicans knew the ceiling would be raised. Its just a question of them getting as much as they can before it happened.
It looks like they aint getting shit though, so I say, go Obama! OH and raised the taxes on the top 1%. Fuck them, its time to pay back. That and end the loopholes for taxes on big business. Again, its time to pay back.
And there you have it, class envy at its finest and ugliest.
Fuck the rich.
It doesn't matter that raising taxes on them will not solve the budget crisis. That isn't the goal. The goal is to fuck over someone. If it hurts everyone else in the process, well too bad.
Thanks Zona. Your idiotic posts have finally served a purpose.
blah blah...end result, the republicans knew the ceiling would be raised. Its just a question of them getting as much as they can before it happened.
It looks like they aint getting shit though, so I say, go Obama! OH and raised the taxes on the top 1%. Fuck them, its time to pay back. That and end the loopholes for taxes on big business. Again, its time to pay back.
You just summed up this assholes entire presidency, PAYBACK.......
blah blah...end result, the republicans knew the ceiling would be raised. Its just a question of them getting as much as they can before it happened.
It looks like they aint getting shit though, so I say, go Obama! OH and raised the taxes on the top 1%. Fuck them, its time to pay back. That and end the loopholes for taxes on big business. Again, its time to pay back.
And there you have it, class envy at its finest and ugliest.
Fuck the rich.
It doesn't matter that raising taxes on them will not solve the budget crisis. That isn't the goal. The goal is to fuck over someone. If it hurts everyone else in the process, well too bad.
Thanks Zona. Your idiotic posts have finally served a purpose.
If the choices are to hurt medicare or ss or cut the bush tax cuts for the top 2% and cut loopholes for big businesses, yes my choice is clear. Its also clear which way republicans would like it to go.
Fuck that. Do not hurt grandma to help the rich. You are the idiot here sir.
Incentives to produce wealth? Why do they need fucking incentives? Isn't that their job? Regardless of the tax system... they still want to make money. Greed is greed, isn't it? That is exactly what they live for... to produce wealth.Who wrote that? Only you.
What do you call drastic cuts to social security and the dismantling of Medicare into a voucher program that is going to cost people already on a fixed income significantly more out of pocket expense to be covered? Combine that with an out and out refusal to even eliminate ridiculous loopholes in the tax code that only the extremely wealthy can take advantage of.... yeah... I'd say that it's quite a few people more than "only me", and also quite accurate.
What do I call assuring the long term survival of a health care payment system, combined with incentives for people to produce wealth?
I'd call that a start.
But you admit that the Democratic objective is to screw people regardless of whether it will solve the problem or not. That's something anyway.
blah blah...end result, the republicans knew the ceiling would be raised. Its just a question of them getting as much as they can before it happened.
It looks like they aint getting shit though, so I say, go Obama! OH and raised the taxes on the top 1%. Fuck them, its time to pay back. That and end the loopholes for taxes on big business. Again, its time to pay back.
The truth. But people don't want to hear the truth, do they?
They'd rather listen to AM Radio screaming about the Kenyan in chief and his death panels coming to your hometown, wouldn't they?
BTW... did you hear the interview? He didn't say he was going to stop SS checks. Probably your AM Radio Conscience told you that. What he actually said was " if a deal isn't reached, he couldn't GUARANTEE that the checks would go out, as there may not be enough money in the coffers".
Nothing like questioning what lie is going to be used by using a lie to question it. You guys are lower than whale shit, you do realize that, right?
Sounds familiar, doesn't it? "If you don't pay your protection money, we can't GUARANTEE that your restaurant won't burn down."
It's the Chicago way.
You really think that's what the GOP ISN'T doing? let's see.... no cuts to defense, no revenue increases... all they are offering up is to reduce the debt directly on the backs of the middle class and elderly. Can't piss off the Billionaires, can we? Otherwise, we'll destroy the economy....again.
the amazing thing is... Obama offered up $4 TRILLION in cuts, if only the GOP would eliminate some loopholes. That's a sweet deal for everyone(except, of course for people that need services that would be cut). But your side is so obsessed(to the point of religious fervor), that they can't see a good deal when it's sitting right in front of them anymore.
But you know what the problem is? If they would have accepted Obama's deal... then it would have been Obama's debt reduction plan... they couldn't have that, could they? Politics before country.
what is the most outrageous scare tactic the dums will use?
they'll remind people about george bush ii's administration.
the bastards!
Yup. Proof positive they put political power over what's best for the nation.If the dumocrats thought the debt limit was of major importance they should have raised it 7 months ago before they were out of office. They ran up the bill when they passed the stimulus so they should have secured the line of credit first. The assholes did not even pass a budget when they were in power. Stupid - stupid - stupid!!!!!!
They preferred to vote "present" on any of these issues because htey were afraid it would be used against them in the election.
Spineless weasels.
How about:
Republicans want to end Medicare.
Republicans want to privatize Social Security.
Republicans want to slash education.
Republicans want to create even more tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans.
Republicans want to end the EPA.
Republicans want to cut corporate tax even more.
Republicans have passed 80 new laws in different states restricting or banning abortion.
See? Nothing is more scary than the truth.
How about:
Republicans want to end Medicare.
Republicans want to privatize Social Security.
Republicans want to slash education.
Republicans want to create even more tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans.
Republicans want to end the EPA.
Republicans want to cut corporate tax even more.
Republicans have passed 80 new laws in different states restricting or banning abortion.
See? Nothing is more scary than the truth.
ALl of those things give me hope and make me smile. The fact that it scares you makes me smile even more.
If they had raised rates unemployment would be double what it is now.
How about:
Republicans want to end Medicare.
Republicans want to privatize Social Security.
Republicans want to slash education.
Republicans want to create even more tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans.
Republicans want to end the EPA.
Republicans want to cut corporate tax even more.
Republicans have passed 80 new laws in different states restricting or banning abortion.
See? Nothing is more scary than the truth.
ALl of those things give me hope and make me smile. The fact that it scares you makes me smile even more.
And that in a nutshell is the big divide.
If they had raised rates unemployment would be double what it is now.
Absolutely untrue.
Today Obama said if a deal is not reached social security checks will be stopped. That's an outrageous lie told for obvious political reasons.
What other lies will the Dums tell to scare people into pressuring the GOP for a deal, any deal?
I think, "Our soldiers will be left on the battlefield with no supplies and will be slaughtered mercilessly because of Speaker Boehner" is certainly a possibility.
Ok, so what really happens? if Obama was lying. What would really go unpaid if the debt limit date passed and the treasury only had half of what it needed to pay the bills that came due?
Social Security and medicare have SPECIFIC taxes paid monthly to them. That money can not be diverted legally without an act of Congress. Using excess funds and replacing them with treasury Bonds is one thing, stealing the money from the recipients is another. Those two must be paid from the tax receipts paid into those funds. If there is no surplus the Government can not stop payment to divert those funds.
