What is it GOP leaders are doing that generates such strong support from their base?

[rdean]

They didn't wreck the economy. That's what they did that was so good.

Where is the Democrat budget? They held total control until January of this year so why was there no budget?

Ah, but they did wreck the economy. Like I said, it takes years for bad policy to affect an economy as large as ours. Moving the mortgage market to Wall Street, the trillions in tax cuts while waging two wars, the scandalous prescription drugs for votes bill Republicans passed through reconciliation, moving millions of jobs to China, these things take years before they bring down and economy as large as ours. Then it takes years to dig us out of this mess.

Really, if the Left thinks Papa Obama is going to win reelection
They are going to need more than "Bush Did It"

Wars- again the Left needs some new material

Under President Obama, government will spend more on welfare in a single year than President George W. Bush spent on the war in Iraq during his entire presidency. According to the Congressional Research Service, the cost of the Iraq war through the end of the Bush Administration was around $622 billion. By contrast, annual federal and state means-tested welfare spending will reach $888 billion in FY 2010. Federal welfare spending alone will equal $697 billion in that y


It is bad enough Papa Obama has to do this when his teleprompter breaks

I can see you're getting pissed being proven wrong again and again. The Iraq war was only $622 billion? No wonder you didn't link to that. You can't just look at the cost of the military, you have to look at the cost of Rebuilding the country of Iraq, the cost of taking care of tens of thousands of wounded Americans, the cost of replacing our hardware. Include all that and the cost skyrockets into trillions and trillions, all of which Obama was left with.

What else is there to say?

 

[rdean]

Well if you get most of your news from the MSM, it is no surprise.

I mean come on. Listening to the MSM, one might even think 9.2 percent unemployment is good
or at least, "unexpected"

I get my news from a variety of sources. I even watch Fox until I cant' take the lies. After all Fox sued for the right to lie since they feel they are an "opinion" network and not really news.

Well they must not be very good based on the same stale material you keep using over and over and over....

The truth is never stale. Prove anything I've said is wrong. I'm open to learning something new.

 

[shintao]

They didn't wreck the economy. That's what they did that was so good.

Where is the Democrat budget? They held total control until January of this year so why was there no budget?

Ah, but they did wreck the economy. Like I said, it takes years for bad policy to affect an economy as large as ours. Moving the mortgage market to Wall Street, the trillions in tax cuts while waging two wars, the scandalous prescription drugs for votes bill Republicans passed through reconciliation, moving millions of jobs to China, these things take years before they bring down and economy as large as ours. Then it takes years to dig us out of this mess.

Really, if the Left thinks Papa Obama is going to win reelection
They are going to need more than "Bush Did It"

Wars- again the Left needs some new material

Under President Obama, government will spend more on welfare in a single year than President George W. Bush spent on the war in Iraq during his entire presidency. According to the Congressional Research Service, the cost of the Iraq war through the end of the Bush Administration was around $622 billion. By contrast, annual federal and state means-tested welfare spending will reach $888 billion in FY 2010. Federal welfare spending alone will equal $697 billion in that y


It is bad enough Papa Obama has to do this when his teleprompter breaks

LMAO! Lets recap last election,....Hope & Change. I doubt we will need much more than that if the retards defualt on the debt limit increase. As we speak Obama is being recharged with millions of campaign funds, most of the biggies from all new sources. Now I wonder where those new sources came from?

 

[rdean]

Yep

Frannie and Freddie had nothing to do with ii?
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have an implied leverage ratio of anywhere from 60:1 to 200:1.
This would never happen in the private market

same old material of the left

No matter how many times you post it, it does not become any more truthful

The left better hope the economy improves
I mean come on

You have nothing new to offer the US public ?

we see how well this leftist mantra worked
last election

Please explain "derivatives" and how they affected the economy.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Ah, but they did wreck the economy. Like I said, it takes years for bad policy to affect an economy as large as ours. Moving the mortgage market to Wall Street, the trillions in tax cuts while waging two wars, the scandalous prescription drugs for votes bill Republicans passed through reconciliation, moving millions of jobs to China, these things take years before they bring down and economy as large as ours. Then it takes years to dig us out of this mess.

Really, if the Left thinks Papa Obama is going to win reelection
They are going to need more than "Bush Did It"

Wars- again the Left needs some new material

Under President Obama, government will spend more on welfare in a single year than President George W. Bush spent on the war in Iraq during his entire presidency. According to the Congressional Research Service, the cost of the Iraq war through the end of the Bush Administration was around $622 billion. By contrast, annual federal and state means-tested welfare spending will reach $888 billion in FY 2010. Federal welfare spending alone will equal $697 billion in that y


It is bad enough Papa Obama has to do this when his teleprompter breaks

I can see you're getting pissed being proven wrong again and again. The Iraq war was only $622 billion? No wonder you didn't link to that. You can't just look at the cost of the military, you have to look at the cost of Rebuilding the country of Iraq, the cost of taking care of tens of thousands of wounded Americans, the cost of replacing our hardware. Include all that and the cost skyrockets into trillions and trillions, all of which Obama was left with.

What else is there to say?

Pissed? Wow liberals really our sensitive....

Did you ever notice posters who
claim they "won" in some fashion
Never really do

Funny how that works

 

[Neotrotsky]

Yep

Frannie and Freddie had nothing to do with ii?
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have an implied leverage ratio of anywhere from 60:1 to 200:1.
This would never happen in the private market

same old material of the left

No matter how many times you post it, it does not become any more truthful

The left better hope the economy improves
I mean come on

You have nothing new to offer the US public ?

we see how well this leftist mantra worked
last election

Please explain "derivatives" and how they affected the economy.

Oh this game....
Sure
a derivative is a financial instrument

 

[Harry Dresden]

You don't exactly come over as Mr Nice Guy either, rdean. Shocking I know, but it's true. You come over as someone who hates other based on nothing more than their political views. Sick shit.

You make me laugh with your classic stereotyping of others... while totally failing to realize that you actually fit the stereotype of a mindless left wing hack.

My advice.... avoid stereotyping your fellow man. Most of us are still individuals.

she has got you there Dean.....

Not really. The Republican Party is 90% white. That can't be denied.

The Democratic Party is a coalition Party. That can't be denied. Especially when you look at all the "conflicting positions":

For and against gay marriage
For and against raising taxes
For and against the two wars
For and against abortion rights

There are conservatives within the Democratic Party.

The Republicans on the other hand, well, do I really have to go there? You guys know your own party.

Dean.....she is talking about YOU....not the Democratic Party.....
1.....you dont come off as a "nice guy".....
2.....you seem to hate others for their Political Views.....
3.....you Stereotype big time.....
4.....and you come across as a big time Hack.....that describes YOU......not the Democratic Party.....pay attention once in a while.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Because they are being drained of money for Red States? I thought that was obvious.

and yet i have told you that every politician i have heard,Articals from the papers here.....no one ever mentions that point.......i listened to Gov. Brown talk about the budget.....i never heard him mention that......but yet you insist thats why.....show me one of your links where someone in California Politics mentions that....

No Republican mention supply and demand. Does that mean it isn't the foundation of capitalism?

Only Republicans talk about seceding (See Rick Perry for one).

Democrats know it's part of our duty to fund the federal government. Republicans hate government. They want it to fail. It's why every time they are in power, it fails. That's their plan. It's there "teaching moment".

Dean why cant you answer a dam question?.....why do you always dance around it?.....i repeat.....no Politician from either Party,no newspaper,the Governor himself.....have ever to my knowledge out here,have ever mentioned your reasoning as even one of the Reasons for California going down the tubes.....yet you have said it more than once.....wanna try again?.....OR are we going to see more Dancing?....

 

[Rinata]

Charity? My opinion of Charity is that it's good in a pinch, but in the long run, isn't it just "welfare" by a different name?

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish and he will eat for a lifetime.

This is why cutting education and jobs programs will be such a terrible disaster for this country. Without those, you reduce millions of Americans to "charity".

And that is exactly why this conservative donates her time to a charity that actually teaches homeless people skills to help them to help themselves. I do that for free. What do you do?

I worked every other Sunday at the Jane Addams center here in Chicago for 15 years.

Read what "conservatives" say about the homeless on this board. Or the unemployed. The right wingers on this board are not nice people.
Without funds or support? One wonders how effective a single person is without any "organization". Organization is not "socialism". Republicans have turned helping fellow Americans who need help into something dirty. It's not something that can be denied.

You said it. Cold and uncaring people is what they are. And not very informed.

 

[SKEPTICISM]

It is not government's job to take care of people. You lefties can't seem to get a handle on that concept.

What is the government's job?

The Federal Government was originally set up for military protection. Now it's into everything. Education used to be a state issue--now it's the federal government--medicade used to be a state issue--now it's the federal government--social security//medicare, now it's Obamacare.

The problem--There isn't a federal government agency--that's not in red ink. Heck the Senate cafeteria can't break even on lunch--

In truth the Federal Government couldn't operate a lemonade stand without driving it into bankruptsy.

The Federal Government was originally set up ONLY to have a "Well Regulated Militia"!!! Question for ya! Where does it say anywhere in the Constitution that the U.S. is mandated to be the "Military Police of The World"? The Fathers of the Constitution / Founders only wanted a "Well Regulated Militia".

The Founders of the country did not mention "Corporations" nor Banks as the mainstays of this country, yet as we speak, Corporations and the Banks have become what the Founders had feared most....the monstrosity of too Big to Fail and a threat to Democracy and the Republic.

How is it today that we now have a "Military Industrial Complex (MIC)" that now has over 700 military bases around the World! We are now the Military Police of the world. Eisenhower warned this country about the negative influences and growing power of the Military Industrial Complex over 60 years ago.

Is it necessary to have MIC where as a country we out spend every country in the world in military expenditures and defense procurements to the tune of $600 billion to $1.0 trillion per year!!! Is this really necessary in order to keep America Safe? I think not. However, some how the MIC, the Corporations, the Banks, and Wall street have all come together like a perfect storm to control and threatened the Democracy of the United States.

We have come to a point in our country where the corporations, the banks, and wall street now control the U.S. Govt itself! So in honesty we just can't sit back and just Blame The Federal Gov't , without look at the big picture.

 

[bripat9643]

In other words, "Name some policies from the GOP leadership that has helped the Republican base".

The only thing I could think of was "cut taxes". But if you don't have a job, that's not a lot of help and Republicans ran on "Jobs, jobs, jobs".

So what has the leadership accomplished for the Republican base that the base can point to and say, "See"?

It's OK to go all the way back to 2000.

The Republicans are doing the same thing the police do for us: they keep thugs from robbing us.

Democrats can't think of political parties in any terms other than rival gangs. According ot the Democrat mentality, if the gang doesn't steal sufficient swag and dispense it to its members, then it's not "doing anything for you."

The idea of government leaving you the hell alone is beyond their mental grasp. It's like a minnow trying to grasp the concept of treading on dry land.

 

[daveman]

I'm open to learning something new.

No, you're not.

 

[rdean]

she has got you there Dean.....

Not really. The Republican Party is 90% white. That can't be denied.

The Democratic Party is a coalition Party. That can't be denied. Especially when you look at all the "conflicting positions":

For and against gay marriage
For and against raising taxes
For and against the two wars
For and against abortion rights

There are conservatives within the Democratic Party.

The Republicans on the other hand, well, do I really have to go there? You guys know your own party.

Dean.....she is talking about YOU....not the Democratic Party.....
1.....you dont come off as a "nice guy".....
2.....you seem to hate others for their Political Views.....
3.....you Stereotype big time.....
4.....and you come across as a big time Hack.....that describes YOU......not the Democratic Party.....pay attention once in a while.....

Wow, glad you don't.

 

[rdean]

What is the government's job?

The Federal Government was originally set up for military protection. Now it's into everything. Education used to be a state issue--now it's the federal government--medicade used to be a state issue--now it's the federal government--social security//medicare, now it's Obamacare.

The problem--There isn't a federal government agency--that's not in red ink. Heck the Senate cafeteria can't break even on lunch--

In truth the Federal Government couldn't operate a lemonade stand without driving it into bankruptsy.

The Federal Government was originally set up ONLY to have a "Well Regulated Militia"!!! Question for ya! Where does it say anywhere in the Constitution that the U.S. is mandated to be the "Military Police of The World"? The Fathers of the Constitution / Founders only wanted a "Well Regulated Militia".

The Founders of the country did not mention "Corporations" nor Banks as the mainstays of this country, yet as we speak, Corporations and the Banks have become what the Founders had feared most....the monstrosity of too Big to Fail and a threat to Democracy and the Republic.

How is it today that we now have a "Military Industrial Complex (MIC)" that now has over 700 military bases around the World! We are now the Military Police of the world. Eisenhower warned this country about the negative influences and growing power of the Military Industrial Complex over 60 years ago.

Is it necessary to have MIC where as a country we out spend every country in the world in military expenditures and defense procurements to the tune of $600 billion to $1.0 trillion per year!!! Is this really necessary in order to keep America Safe? I think not. However, some how the MIC, the Corporations, the Banks, and Wall street have all come together like a perfect storm to control and threatened the Democracy of the United States.

We have come to a point in our country where the corporations, the banks, and wall street now control the U.S. Govt itself! So in honesty we just can't sit back and just Blame The Federal Gov't , without look at the big picture.

That doesn't even make sense. In fact, it actually sounds really bizzare. Imagine creating an Army and nothing else. No infrastructure to support that military and no governing body. Just an army.

 

[rdean]

I'm open to learning something new.

No, you're not.

"Being a liberal" isn't a life accomplishment worthy of respect. It isn't an achievement that puts you above the rest of us. It doesn't give your opinions greater weight. And it isn't a substitute for experience, training, and independent rational thought.

You want to impress me? DO something. Don't just SAY something.

What has the right done? They work to tear down liberal institutions of higher learning and replace them with Bible College. They aren't into science. What percentage of their kids are dropouts?

The right wing is divided into mostly two groups. Incredibly wealthy and an ignorant base.

The title of this thread is, "What is it GOP leaders are doing that generates such strong support from their base?" and so far, none of you have been able to name a single thing. Nothing. Instead of attacking Democrats, what have Republicans done to clean up their disastrous mess under George Bush? And I'll tell you something else. You guys should be ashamed to defend such a terrible record. Seriously ashamed.

 

[Neotrotsky]

The US spends more on Public education than most countries
and we get the worst results

The good news, it is one of the most socialized systems we have..
Another liberal success

 

[rdean]

In other words, "Name some policies from the GOP leadership that has helped the Republican base".

The only thing I could think of was "cut taxes". But if you don't have a job, that's not a lot of help and Republicans ran on "Jobs, jobs, jobs".

So what has the leadership accomplished for the Republican base that the base can point to and say, "See"?

It's OK to go all the way back to 2000.

The Republicans are doing the same thing the police do for us: they keep thugs from robbing us.

Democrats can't think of political parties in any terms other than rival gangs. According ot the Democrat mentality, if the gang doesn't steal sufficient swag and dispense it to its members, then it's not "doing anything for you."

The idea of government leaving you the hell alone is beyond their mental grasp. It's like a minnow trying to grasp the concept of treading on dry land.

When the 12 largest corporations in the country pay zero in taxes and get billions from the government.

When oil companies who charge over 4 dollars a gallon while getting free money from tax payers.

When oil companies are getting free leases.

When oil companies pour millions of gallons of oil into our shrimp beds.

When Republicans leaders feel it should be the taxpayer who pays for the clean up.

When more than 52% of the Bush tax cuts go to just 1% of the country.

Then yes, you are getting ripped off. These are all policies of the Republican leadership.

The Republicans are doing the same thing the police do for us: they keep thugs from robbing us.

Idiot, the Republicans ARE the thugs.

 

[rdean]

The US spends more on Public education than most countries
and we get the worst results

The good news, it is one of the most socialized systems we have..
Another liberal success

And yet our institutions of higher learning are the best. Could it be because conservatives are being kept from destroying those institutions the way the keep messing up primary and secondary schools?

Magical creation. What moron wants to teach such nonsense to impressionable minds. Talk about hamstringing susceptible children. Ooos, sorry. Uhh, I didn't mean you?

 

[Neotrotsky]

Good God
same old Leftist mantra
Do they have anything new

Obama biggest recipient of BP cash

BP and its employees have given more than $3.5 million to federal candidates over the past 20 years, with the largest chunk of their money going to Obama, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Donations come from a mix of employees and the company’s political action committees — $2.89 million flowed to campaigns from BP-related PACs and about $638,000 came from individuals.​

State and federal per gallon sales taxes on gasoline are, on average, 20 times higher than the oil companies profit margin.

The Top 50% pay 96.54% of All Income Taxes

 

[Neotrotsky]

The US spends more on Public education than most countries
and we get the worst results

The good news, it is one of the most socialized systems we have..
Another liberal success

And yet our institutions of higher learning are the best. Could it be because conservatives are being kept from destroying those institutions the way the keep messing up primary and secondary schools?

Magical creation. What moron wants to teach such nonsense to impressionable minds. Talk about hamstringing susceptible children. Ooos, sorry. Uhh, I didn't mean you?

Well of course
they are filled with foreign students working on advanced degrees