What I'd like to hear from Republicans on this day.

[Tech_Esq]

There is no substance to the charge.

This "socialist or a marxist" charge did not even show up until McCain was down big in the polls.

Simply desperation tactics in which "Racist, Terrorist, Anti-Christ" did not stick so they threw everything AND the kitchen sink at Obama.

Interesting. I wonder if you would care to read and comment on this post I made on another thread. Based on my research on the topic.

Post concerning Obama, Clinton and the tutelage of Alinsky

 

[Jon]

The best reason to vote for McCain, sadly, is that he's not Obama. McCain has shown to be a man of his word, historically. Obama, not so much.

 

[N4mddissent]

Robert Wrote:


Who is staying in the past? I'm simply stating that people vote against a candidate all the time - I'm not quite sure why the fact that this time the Republicans are doing instead of the Democrats is being met with people throwing taunts and demanding that Republicans justify who they are voting for without mentioning the opposite party.

It is legitimate to vote against a candidate, if that candidate's performance in the position has been unacceptable to you. It is, imho, a little shakier when neither candidate is an incumbant. Having said that though, if you truly believe you know enough about the candidate to predict his performance with enough conviction that you feel uncomfortable voting for him, then I have to say I believe it would still be valid to vote against that candidate. If Palin were to be at the top of a ticket, I would probably vote for a Democrat I am unenthusiastic about and would likely be voting against her. However, I think the overwhelming Anti-Obamaism rather than Pro-McCainism inspired RS to start this thread, just wanting to have a clear view of the latter without all the noise of the former.

 

[Modbert]

And I have done likewise to Obama. Palin has nothing to do with it. Obama is a Marxist. How much clearer do you want me to be?

I said I wanted a argument without Obama being brought up for McCain and Palin.

YOU cannot do it obviously.

 

[Modbert]

It is legitimate to vote against a candidate, if that candidate's performance in the position has been unacceptable to you. It is, imho, a little shakier when neither candidate is an incumbant. Having said that though, if you truly believe you know enough about the candidate to predict his performance with enough conviction that you feel uncomfortable voting for him, then I have to say I believe it would still be valid to vote against that candidate. If Palin were to be at the top of a ticket, I would probably vote for a Democrat I am unenthusiastic about and would likely be voting against her. However, I think the overwhelming Anti-Obamaism rather than Pro-McCainism inspired RS to start this thread, just wanting to have a clear view of the latter without all the noise of the former.

Exactly my intent for this thread. N4m and not surprisingly, I've gotten more Anti-Obamaism then Pro-McCainism in this thread by a mile.

 

[WillowTree]

I said I wanted a argument without Obama being brought up for McCain and Palin.

YOU cannot do it obviously.

no, I think it was you brought up Palin.

listen carefully




Obama is a Marxist.

 

[AllieBaba]

I voted for McCain because I trust him to put America first, last, and always. He's proved his committment to the US with his body and his service, in the military and out of it. I respect someone, even if I disagree with them, if they are willing to take on their own party...which he has done (admittedly sometimes to his detriment...but the point is, he does it because he believes in what he's doing, and he's trying to do the right thing). I'm voting for McCain because he's at the end of his game and not at the beginning, and so I don't have to worry about him trying to stuff his coffers or build his own personal power using the presidency as his stepladder.

I like McCain because he talks straight, even if it isn't what people want to hear. I like him because he understands and has shown his understanding of international matters. He understands the relationships and geography of our allies and our enemies...

Wait..there's more in a minute.

 

[N4mddissent]

The best reason to vote for McCain, sadly, is that he's not Obama. McCain has shown to be a man of his word, historically. Obama, not so much.

That's a pretty firm statement about McCain. Not sure I can go there with you.

 

[N4mddissent]

no, I think it was you brought up Palin.

listen carefully




Obama is a Marxist.

He's asking you if you can present a Pro-McCain argument without presenting an Anti-Obama argument.

 

[Modbert]

no, I think it was you brought up Palin.

listen carefully




Obama is a Marxist.

Again, without bringing up Obama is a Marxist in your opinion or bringing up Obama in general.

Make a argument for McCain/Palin without bringing up Obama/Biden.

If you cannot, stop talking and further bringing shame to your fellow Republicans.

 

[Modbert]

He's asking you if you can present a Pro-McCain argument without presenting an Anti-Obama argument.

Exactly, I don't think he gets a simple concept N4m.

 

[bk1983]

McCain started his campaign and said it would be all about experience. Then when he picked Palin it switched to reformers. Now there gonna go in and change washington. The economy was strong,then it was just the workers are strong, then we are in a crisis. Dont bailout AIG, then yes bailout AIG. Voted and supported bailout. After bailout passed spoke against it and blamed the white house admin and democrats. Bailout passed to shore up credit for banks, now he wants to take the money and bailout mortgage foreclosures(hmm,socialism?) anti socialism yet supports "special provision including additional trust funds for Medicaid payments." calls Obamas refundable tax credits welfare and calls his refundable tax credits reform. Said he would never use robocalls in a campaign, then hired the same people who used robocalls against him to do it to Obama. Can someone tell me again, what the hell does he actually stand for?

 

[WillowTree]

He's asking you if you can present a Pro-McCain argument without presenting an Anti-Obama argument.

that's my argument. McCain is not obamalama the marxist.

 

[Modbert]

that's my argument. McCain is not obamalama the marxist.

Then your argument fails, and so do you.

You cannot even do a simple thing like which I asked.

Actually, plenty of Republicans here cannot which is pretty sad.

 

[AllieBaba]

Again, without bringing up Obama is a Marxist in your opinion or bringing up Obama in general.

Make a argument for McCain/Palin without bringing up Obama/Biden.

If you cannot, stop talking and further bringing shame to your fellow Republicans.

I notice you're ignoring my post. Probably because it doesn't have anything anti-Obama in it.

Anyway, I also like McCain because he speaks in concrete, truthful terms. He doesn't avoid issues or offer platitudes and vagueries when he speaks. When he talks about the Middle East...or anywhere outside the US...he speaks as someone who has travelled the globe, who knows the leaders well, and who understands the dynamics of different parts of the world. Who knew that Georgia was sitting on a pipeline before his debate with Obama?

I voted for McCain because he picked Palin and stuck by her. Despite the frenzied raving of the left, despite the hair-tearing of the right, he didn't waver. And I like Palin. Palin pulled Alaska up by its shoestraps.

What McCain lacks in economic whizzery, Palin more than makes up for. She can handle money. She's proved it.

Together they're unapologetic, they're truthful, they're tough, and they have both proven they want to do the right thing for America and Americans.

That's why I voted for McCain.

 

[bk1983]

I notice you're ignoring my post. Probably because it doesn't have anything anti-Obama in it.

Anyway, I also like McCain because he speaks in concrete, truthful terms. He doesn't avoid issues or offer platitudes and vagueries when he speaks. When he talks about the Middle East...or anywhere outside the US...he speaks as someone who has travelled the globe, who knows the leaders well, and who understands the dynamics of different parts of the world. Who knew that Georgia was sitting on a pipeline before his debate with Obama?

I voted for McCain because he picked Palin and stuck by her. Despite the frenzied raving of the left, despite the hair-tearing of the right, he didn't waver. And I like Palin. Palin pulled Alaska up by its shoestraps.

What McCain lacks in economic whizzery, Palin more than makes up for. She can handle money. She's proved it.

Together they're unapologetic, they're truthful, they're tough, and they have both proven they want to do the right thing for America and Americans.

That's why I voted for McCain.

Palin has given Alaskans large tax cuts, she did it of course by spreading the wealth. She raised the taxes on the oil companies and gave it to the citizens, sounds familiar right? Some people from a certain party call that welfare or wealth redistribution, I don't but some do. I wonder who they are?

 

[Andrew2382]

Palin has given Alaskans large tax cuts, she did it of course by spreading the wealth. She raised the taxes on the oil companies and gave it to the citizens, sounds familiar right? Some people from a certain party call that welfare or wealth redistribution, I don't but some do. I wonder who they are?

That is idiotic, you can not even compare the 2

What Palin did was get money from the oil companies for taking a resource that belongs to ALL Alaskans. Then give shares of their revenue back to the people of Alaska. Also it was an equal amount to all families regardless of income.

Obama wants to tax the rich and give it to the poor as well as give people a bigger welfare check on top of what they are getting.

 

[oreo]

Sarah Palin DOES have more experience than Barack Obama. She is in charge of the state of Alaska, with 22,000 employees she is accountable for. She also is in charge of the Alaska National Guard. Prior to that she sat on boards that deal with ENERGY--of which Alaska is the largest in country supplier to the lower 48. She has taken on her own party over corruption & won.

Barack Obama--was a prior "community organizer". What do community organizer's do? Does anyone really know? He was in the Illinois State legislature & voted "present" (meaning he could not make up his mind on issues) related to the state of Illinois. He was then elected to the U.S. Senate & upon setting foot in that door, he started his campain for the POTUS.

THE MOST FRIGHTENING THING ABOUT BARACK OBAMA: One of his campaign managers stated yesterday as to why Barack Obama did not leave Pastor Wright's church, "if that's what you want to call it". Is because Barack Obama WAS AFRAID of the political consequences of leaving that church. "Meaning he has no intentions of confronting his own party, when warranted." He will always choose his personal political goals over what's good for this country.

BARACK OBAMA--would not even be able to obtain a job with the FBI or the CIA in this country, because of his extremist radical associations

Again, notably this poster is intent on comparing Barack Obama to Sarah Palin, because he/she knows that there is absolutely no comparison in character or in experience to John McCain.

 

[Modbert]

I notice you're ignoring my post. Probably because it doesn't have anything anti-Obama in it.

Anyway, I also like McCain because he speaks in concrete, truthful terms. He doesn't avoid issues or offer platitudes and vagueries when he speaks. When he talks about the Middle East...or anywhere outside the US...he speaks as someone who has travelled the globe, who knows the leaders well, and who understands the dynamics of different parts of the world. Who knew that Georgia was sitting on a pipeline before his debate with Obama?

I voted for McCain because he picked Palin and stuck by her. Despite the frenzied raving of the left, despite the hair-tearing of the right, he didn't waver. And I like Palin. Palin pulled Alaska up by its shoestraps.

What McCain lacks in economic whizzery, Palin more than makes up for. She can handle money. She's proved it.

Together they're unapologetic, they're truthful, they're tough, and they have both proven they want to do the right thing for America and Americans.

That's why I voted for McCain.

Well I was waiting for your full response Allie. I thought you did a great job not bringing up Obama but it could of been done without bringing up the left.

 

[Modbert]

That is idiotic, you can not even compare the 2

What Palin did was get money from the oil companies for taking a resource that belongs to ALL Alaskans. Then give shares of their revenue back to the people of Alaska. Also it was an equal amount to all families regardless of income.

Obama wants to tax the rich and give it to the poor as well as give people a bigger welfare check on top of what they are getting.

Techinally, that's taking from the rich (Oil Companies) and giving to the poor. (The people)

They only get money because she allows the oil companies to ravish Alaska's beautiful landscape. She allowed Chevron to dump TRIPLE the toxic waste into the ocean in just one area alone. Doesn't sound real Mavericky to me.