What I'd like to hear from Republicans on this day.

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What I'd like to hear from Republicans on this day is simply a good argument for McCain.

In my entire time here, all I've heard is trying to bring Obama down.

Obama has been called an illegal alien, a socialist, someone with horrible judgement, a racist, a terrorist, anti-christ, etc.

However, generally the elephants in the room has been ignored by Republicans; John McCain and Sarah Palin.

For Republicans to find Obama horribly underqualified, they must Sarah Palin to be really worse no?

But no, I've actually seen people defend her "experience" and say she actually has more then Obama.

And McCain? I get the usual, he's a war hero.

So what I want to hear on this day from Republicans is simply a argument for McCain that does not attack Obama, Biden, or Democrats.

Can any Republican here do that for McCain and or Palin?

If so, I'd like to hear it.
 
me too... not that it'll change my vote.

but it would be nice to think they know what they are getting in voting for McCain
 
me too... not that it'll change my vote.

but it would be nice to think they know what they are getting in voting for McCain

Exactly if I could vote.

I currently see McCain rehashing his "Pork barrel, I'll make their names famous speech."

Well he certainly made Palin's name famous.
 
Argument for McCain:

He's had a lot of experience in both international affairs and in the senate. His military service can give him a better understanding of his role as commander in chief. He has exhibited a willingness to cross party lines and stand up for what he believes even if not orthodox Republican ideology- although he has been less than consistent on this, especially recently.

Palin- 4 years of Tina Fey on SNL was all I could think of.

But I'm a Democrat, so this might not be what you're looking for.
 
I have time and again made arguments for McCain. They have been overshadowed on this board by those with no better argument than Obama sucks. Today, I am tired. I just want to watch the end of the game.
 
I have specifically broke this down in other threads before.. but you extreme libbies simply gloss over it and re-ask again

You simply, as Obamabots, do not WANT to hear

So simply :blahblah:

I asked for arguments, not excuses.

And if I did not WANT to hear it then why in the bloody hell would I make this thread? :cuckoo:
 
I have specifically broke this down in other threads before.. but you extreme libbies simply gloss over it and re-ask again

You simply, as Obamabots, do not WANT to hear

you neocons are nothing more then McSheep.. and as usual made a post and failed to answer the question.
 
Argument for McCain:

He's had a lot of experience in both international affairs and in the senate. His military service can give him a better understanding of his role as commander in chief. He has exhibited a willingness to cross party lines and stand up for what he believes even if not orthodox Republican ideology- although he has been less than consistent on this, especially recently.

Palin- 4 years of Tina Fey on SNL was all I could think of.

But I'm a Democrat, so this might not be what you're looking for.

That sounds like the McCain of 2000 N4M. :lol:

And the only one who has even made a argument so far is a Democrat not voting McCain I believe. :lol:
 
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4 years of Tina Fey on SNL is the best argument for voting for McCain.

Why couldn't McCain just have picked Tina Fey?

She's smarter and prettier and funnier than Palin.
 
I'll do 1 only

Corporate tax

McCain wants to lower the corporate tax. The United States has the 2nd highest corporate tax in the world and some of biggest pain in the ass regulations to go with. Lowering the corporate tax would entice more businesses to start up and to come to this country as well as make sure they don't leave. It will build bigger revenues for companies which then will be able to expand and hire more employees.

Raising the tax rate will make businesses want to not come, or leave. If businesses have their taxes go up atsuch a rate that Obama wants it will directly go into their budget and revenues and they will have to offset it with something to make it up.

Either
A- Raise the prices and pass the burden to consumers
or
B- Let go of employees

But, honestly, it's retarded at this point to get into the issues, there has been thread after thread on things like this from healthcare, to taxes, to the military....try searching some posts if you are that interested. Not that it makes a difference, everyone knows who they are voting for.
 
4 years of Tina Fey on SNL is the best argument for voting for McCain.

Why couldn't McCain just have picked Tina Fey?

She's smarter and prettier and funnier than Palin.

I don't think Tina would do Palin for four years though. She's already said she wouldn't.

There are arguments to be made for McCain if you go back to 2000 but the sad thing is who can be sure if elected we'll get the McCain of 2000 and not the McCain of 2008.
 
What I'd like to hear from Republicans on this day is simply a good argument for McCain.

In my entire time here, all I've heard is trying to bring Obama down.

Obama has been called an illegal alien, a socialist, someone with horrible judgement, a racist, a terrorist, anti-christ, etc.

However, generally the elephants in the room has been ignored by Republicans; John McCain and Sarah Palin.

For Republicans to find Obama horribly underqualified, they must Sarah Palin to be really worse no?

But no, I've actually seen people defend her "experience" and say she actually has more then Obama.

And McCain? I get the usual, he's a war hero.

So what I want to hear on this day from Republicans is simply a argument for McCain that does not attack Obama, Biden, or Democrats.

Can any Republican here do that for McCain and or Palin?

If so, I'd like to hear it.

As Clinton's boy, Dick Morris said recently, elections usually are not decided by each side voting FOR the person they like. Rather, elections become referendums on one or another candidate. In this election, there is a referendum on Obama. I dare say on the Repub side there are more people voting against Obama than for McCain. That's why you don't hear a lot of "rah, rah McCain" and more "Obama is a rat fink."
 
I'll do 1 only

Corporate tax

McCain wants to lower the corporate tax. The United States has the 2nd highest corporate tax in the world and some of biggest pain in the ass regulations to go with. Lowering the corporate tax would entice more businesses to start up and to come to this country as well as make sure they don't leave. It will build bigger revenues for companies which then will be able to expand and hire more employees.

Raising the tax rate will make businesses want to not come, or leave. If businesses have their taxes go up atsuch a rate that Obama wants it will directly go into their budget and revenues and they will have to offset it with something to make it up.

Either
A- Raise the prices and pass the burden to consumers
or
B- Let go of employees

But, honestly, it's retarded at this point to get into the issues, there has been thread after thread on things like this from healthcare, to taxes, to the military....try searching some posts if you are that interested. Not that it makes a difference, everyone knows who they are voting for.

I'm not asking to get into the issues. I'm simply asking for a argument as to why you would be voting for McCain other then you might hate Obama. For example, you gave me a reason in which you basically agree with McCain's stance on the economy and disagree with Obama's.

See, was that so hard without calling Obama a socialist?
 
As Clinton's boy, Dick Morris said recently, elections usually are not decided by each side voting FOR the person they like. Rather, elections become referendums on one or another candidate. In this election, there is a referendum on Obama. I dare say on the Repub side there are more people voting against Obama than for McCain. That's why you don't hear a lot of "rah, rah McCain" and more "Obama is a rat fink."

I would agree with you when you say that more people are voting against Obama then for McCain on the Republican side. Which is one of the reasons I made this thread.

That and I was interested in hearing their actual reasons other then "Obama is a damn socialist" as to why they were voting for McCain. :lol:
 
I'm not asking to get into the issues. I'm simply asking for a argument as to why you would be voting for McCain other then you might hate Obama. For example, you gave me a reason in which you basically agree with McCain's stance on the economy and disagree with Obama's.

See, was that so hard without calling Obama a socialist?

:clap2:
 
In 2004, many conservatives were asking a very similar question about John Kerry. I could find very few people who were able to come up with an argument as to why they should vote for John Kerry, but rather they provided numerous examples of why they were voting against George Bush.

I guess I'm wondering why it was ok for Democrats to vote against a candidate - but you seem determined to view Republicans as doing something wrong or being weak somehow if they choose to vote against Barack Obama?

I voted for McCain because his past actions and present platform most closely mirror my views and opinions regarding what is best for our nation. I also voted for McCain because Obama's past actions and present platform contain numerous issues and decisions which demonstrate to me that he does not share my views and opinions as to what is needed to help this nation recover from its current problems and continue as a successful and powerful nation.

I consider both the candidate I'm voting for and the candidate I'm voting against. I don't think there is anything wrong with voting against a candidate - although I think that when a party does that, it often indicates that they chose the wrong candidate and will lose - which is one reason why I think McCain will lose this election and why Kerry lost in 2004.

So I guess, in conclusion...I'm wondering what your game is...thousands upon thousands of Democrats (and probably Republicans as well) voted against Bush in the last election not for John Kerry...I don't remember Democrats on this board demanding those fellow Democrats explain why they supported Kerry and calling them names or implying that they were doing something wrong by doing so...so why are you here now, doing just that?
 
Corporate tax

McCain wants to lower the corporate tax. The United States has the 2nd highest corporate tax in the world and some of biggest pain in the ass regulations to go with.

Something truthful would be nice.

Main article: Corporate tax in the United States
In the United States, the federal corporate income rate for the year 2006 varies between 15 and 39% depending on taxable income. But since 1999, when Treasury announced the "check the box" system many corporations can elect to be treated as a pass-through entity, thereby skipping the entity level 35% tax and having all income pass through to the shareholders. This is the tax treatment that the much discussed "S" corporations receive; but now many more types of state-law corporations may avoid double taxation by "checking the box". Dividends are also subject to a lower rate of income tax in the United States. The U.S. corporate tax rate is ranked as the second highest statutory rate among the OECD countries (the U.S. average rate of 39.3 ranks just behind Japan's 39.5 and well above the OECD average of 28.7).[27] However, the U.S also has the greatest number of corporate tax loopholes of any OECD member,[28] allowing many corporations to achieve a lower effective tax rate than the published rates.
Taxation in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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