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And where did Jesus call for forced support thru government over voluntary charity from one's own heart??
For in this country you are free to be generous and nobody stops you... and if you are indeed a miserly and selfish person, you also have the freedom to be such... and nobody has the right, even the government, to force them to support others
He said love your neighbor and take care of the sick and poor. That's what our government is doing.
We are all in this together.
Idiot...
Again... Jesus never called for the forced confiscation from others
And where did Jesus call for forced support thru government over voluntary charity from one's own heart??
For in this country you are free to be generous and nobody stops you... and if you are indeed a miserly and selfish person, you also have the freedom to be such... and nobody has the right, even the government, to force them to support others
He said love your neighbor and take care of the sick and poor. That's what our government is doing.
We are all in this together.
Idiot...
Again... Jesus never called for the forced confiscation from others
Our government is not 'taking care of the sick and poor', they are throwing money at the problem... money that is being taken for forced charity
This is not some hippie commune where 'everyone is in this together'.. this is a nation based on freedoms and the protection of those freedoms.. among which is the freedom to succeed that goes hand in hand with the freedom to fail
While I whole heartedly call for people to support charities for causes that speak to them personally... in NO way should any charity or support be forced thru government and taxation... such things are exactly why we have the multi-tendrilled leviathan, hungry for power, that we have now... which is crippling our country
BFS, Dickhead. I served 23 yrs in the USN and I came from an upper middle class family. While there is a percentage of the poor, most of the people I've met in the Military came from the Middle Class. negged for being stupid.
In times of piece, when the number of soldiers enlisted is lower, the army will only take the best and the brightest. During war, they go right after the poor. They were so deperate during the Iraq/Afganistan war that they took ex cons and sometimes even convicts in exchange for early release.
Since I was in during the war, please provide proof.
I wonder how many church going conservatives withhold contributions to their churches on the grounds that they don't want to be a party to perpetuating poverty and making the poor dependent on their nanny church?
You should ask all the Christian Churches who give millions to the poor in one form or another.
If the poor do not deserve such charity, then Christianity is a religion with a very serious fundamental flaw...
...to the point, perhaps of being an enabler of sloth and irresponsibility.
Exactly, when it is corrupted by Socialist Influence, exactly. Great point. Spot on.
I wonder how many church going conservatives withhold contributions to their churches on the grounds that they don't want to be a party to perpetuating poverty and making the poor dependent on their nanny church?
I wonder how many church going conservatives withhold contributions to their churches on the grounds that they don't want to be a party to perpetuating poverty and making the poor dependent on their nanny church?
Mr Dumb Ass, Sir:
You have the right to VOLUNTARILY help whomever you - not government bureaucrats - choose.
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Think about what you go along with:
Free but not fair trade
Pollution
Paris Hilton and Shell Oil pay no taxes and you pay 35%
Citizens United
Deregulations to the banks, wallstreet, mortgage industry,
Lied us into a war
Hiring Illegals. Remember Jobs Americans Won't Do? I didn't.
Lowering wages/Breaking Unions. Why? Don't you like 40 hour work weeks and sick days?
Why, because of God Gays or Guns? Or have they convinced you we are socialists because we are pro union/labor? That's the middle class buddy.
I dont know how to answer with so many assumptions and projections.
You dont have a clue to my views.
Let me help you out, because you people seem to believe collecting that extra 70 billion a year will stop the trillion and half deficit. That deserves mocking. But hey Obama found 300k a year and its the first time democrats didnt immediately aim at heating for the poor.
Government - Interest Expense on the Debt Outstanding
Government - Historical Debt Outstanding Annual
Get up to speed dreamer................
How would you solve the debt problem?
Allowing corporations and the rich to not pay their fair share certainly isn't the way. Or lying us into the Iraq war and paying for it with borrowed money.
And why when they were in power did the GOP pass tax breaks for companies sending jobs overseas? Is it because our government now works for the corporations instead of the people? Citizens United would suggest so.
The GOP are only cutting spending on things that help the poor and middle class. Drop in the bucket but making America a much worse place than it was before. Eliminating safety nets during a time when you caused a great recession? And the rich have never been richer? And you think they need more tax breaks?
History repeats itself. This happned in 1948 and before the Great Recession. And most Americans don't realize they are brainwashed through Fox and Rush and Drudge. The media has been taken over but they've brainwashed you for 30 years by telling you its the liberal media. Its only as liberal as they want it to be.
What have the poor done to deserve our support?
Don't talk to me. Talk to your "Jesus".
The only problem with your point is that you have not yet learned to distinguish between Charity and Forced Compliance. Learn to give voluntarily, from your Heart RD.
Now give me your wallet, with everything in it.
There is no material difference to the poor person whether his handout came from a voluntary contribution or as you call it 'forced'. It has the same effect on him, and thus if you believe conservative propaganda, it makes him lazy and dependent.
BTW, since government social programs are democratically created, it is only a fraction of the people who pay for them who have any cause to call them 'forced'.
I dont know how to answer with so many assumptions and projections.
You dont have a clue to my views.
Let me help you out, because you people seem to believe collecting that extra 70 billion a year will stop the trillion and half deficit. That deserves mocking. But hey Obama found 300k a year and its the first time democrats didnt immediately aim at heating for the poor.
Government - Interest Expense on the Debt Outstanding
Government - Historical Debt Outstanding Annual
Get up to speed dreamer................
How would you solve the debt problem?
Allowing corporations and the rich to not pay their fair share certainly isn't the way. Or lying us into the Iraq war and paying for it with borrowed money.
And why when they were in power did the GOP pass tax breaks for companies sending jobs overseas? Is it because our government now works for the corporations instead of the people? Citizens United would suggest so.
The GOP are only cutting spending on things that help the poor and middle class. Drop in the bucket but making America a much worse place than it was before. Eliminating safety nets during a time when you caused a great recession? And the rich have never been richer? And you think they need more tax breaks?
History repeats itself. This happned in 1948 and before the Great Recession. And most Americans don't realize they are brainwashed through Fox and Rush and Drudge. The media has been taken over but they've brainwashed you for 30 years by telling you its the liberal media. Its only as liberal as they want it to be.
A lot of straw in that rant.
How would I solve the problem? Too many to list really but we start with restructure of government. That alone covers up to 400 billion a year in redundant services.
Now as far as other cuts. Lets remeber our broke entitlement system, SS is broke. Democrats made it law to put this money into the general fund and that SS be made a budget item.
Should I thank you or kick you?
Clearly we need the poor to have money in their pockets so they can buy our goods and services.
And the rich use them to build their empires.
When did a poor person ever create a job? Last time he had money in his pockets. Before Bush took office. That's when.
In frequent threads here the brain-dead leftists moan about how the "idle rich" (like there is such a thing) don't deserve their money. But look at the other side. The poor in this country enjoy a lifestyle envied by even middle class people in most of the world. What have they done to deserve this? The idlest of the idle rich invest money and help other hard working people get ahead. The poor simply absorb tax payer funding and have babies.
In frequent threads here the brain-dead leftists moan about how the "idle rich" (like there is such a thing) don't deserve their money. But look at the other side. The poor in this country enjoy a lifestyle envied by even middle class people in most of the world. What have they done to deserve this? The idlest of the idle rich invest money and help other hard working people get ahead. The poor simply absorb tax payer funding and have babies.
Perry.
How would you solve the debt problem?
Allowing corporations and the rich to not pay their fair share certainly isn't the way. Or lying us into the Iraq war and paying for it with borrowed money.
And why when they were in power did the GOP pass tax breaks for companies sending jobs overseas? Is it because our government now works for the corporations instead of the people? Citizens United would suggest so.
The GOP are only cutting spending on things that help the poor and middle class. Drop in the bucket but making America a much worse place than it was before. Eliminating safety nets during a time when you caused a great recession? And the rich have never been richer? And you think they need more tax breaks?
History repeats itself. This happned in 1948 and before the Great Recession. And most Americans don't realize they are brainwashed through Fox and Rush and Drudge. The media has been taken over but they've brainwashed you for 30 years by telling you its the liberal media. Its only as liberal as they want it to be.
A lot of straw in that rant.
How would I solve the problem? Too many to list really but we start with restructure of government. That alone covers up to 400 billion a year in redundant services.
Now as far as other cuts. Lets remeber our broke entitlement system, SS is broke. Democrats made it law to put this money into the general fund and that SS be made a budget item.
Should I thank you or kick you?
They broke SS. It wasn't broken before they purposely broke it. And now they want to end it or privatize it? How about put it back to what it was before. Didn't Bush tap into SS to pay for the Bush tax cuts? End the Bush tax cuts and first order is to put all that money back into SS where they found it.
Clinton tapped into it too. Lock box. Remember that discussion in 1999? LOL.
Clearly we need the poor to have money in their pockets so they can buy our goods and services.
And the rich use them to build their empires.
When did a poor person ever create a job? Last time he had money in his pockets. Before Bush took office. That's when.
Bobo?......is that you?.....the long lost guy?....
How dare you. Most of the poor have already contributed to the system and what they get they have earned. There are some who are poor because of no fault of there own and because of corrupt government has mis managed there tax money. GOD said take care of poor and if you were any kind of christian you would not bitch about the little the poor do get. Beware that you may be standing now but could fall at any minute?.
A lot of straw in that rant.
How would I solve the problem? Too many to list really but we start with restructure of government. That alone covers up to 400 billion a year in redundant services.
Now as far as other cuts. Lets remeber our broke entitlement system, SS is broke. Democrats made it law to put this money into the general fund and that SS be made a budget item.
Should I thank you or kick you?
They broke SS. It wasn't broken before they purposely broke it. And now they want to end it or privatize it? How about put it back to what it was before. Didn't Bush tap into SS to pay for the Bush tax cuts? End the Bush tax cuts and first order is to put all that money back into SS where they found it.
Clinton tapped into it too. Lock box. Remember that discussion in 1999? LOL.
Can you put the kool-aid down for a few minutes.
That became law in 69. Democrats have sold spending the money and here you are defending. Here is fact you can not dispute. If SS had been reformed and we were allowed to invest that ten percent. There would be money in that fund today. You can not say that with government.
What frightens you about investing ten percent of your money?
Now that's circular thinking. You answered your own question in your first sentence. The 'poor' create jobs through their spending habits.
Um, no they dont.
If they all stopped going to Kroger, I'm sure you would see fewer check out people working.
