What Does Al Qaida Mean?

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    http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/...1523838,00.html
    Robin Cook, former Foreign Secratary of the U.K.

    So, that's a very interesting definitino of Al Qaida, partially backed up by wikipedia.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaida
    Al-Qaeda (Arabic: "the foundation" or "the base")

    And then of course, there's the rest of the article.

     
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    So what is your take on the article.
     
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    What's your take on the article. :poke:
     
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    I think the war on terror is doomed to the same fate as the war on drugs.
     
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    It will certainly put my feelings that there are a lot of lazy Americans to the test.
     
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    If it hadn't been left to fester for so long, things might be different.
     
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    Like what?
    The closest thing I can think of to the war on drugs is prohibition, and that didn't fester, yet was still a huge failure.

    Whoops... hijacking my own thread.
     
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    Well by all means, feel free to visit Spain, where you will be in good company with people who just want to grab their ankles and take it all up the ass.
     
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    A war against anything that is as ill defined as "drugs" is probably going to fail. When you have an enemy that is as fluid, diverse, and fragmented as the whole of every drug dealer, buyer, supplier, and cartel in existence, then the enemy is too adaptable. The enemy adapts faster than you, you lose.

    The war on terror however is different because of one reason. The army was not in the war on drugs. Where law enforcement has miles of red tape, and limited funding (especially when you are only counting the narcotics division): The army has some of the most highly trained people in various fields, can outsource to private experts, has access to some of the most advanced equipment in the world, a much larger cut of the taxes, and is just generally better equipped to handle the job.

    However, terrorism is maybe less defined then drugs. Take for instance Iraq, we are there to perform a mission, the mission itself is basically to protect the Iraqi people from insurgent aggression, and to capture the insurgents when possible. Now that seems strait forward, but how do you define "mission accomplished," there is always going to be another insurgent cell to root out. A pull out date is idiotic for various reasons. However setting reasonable conditions for withdrawl is necessary. For instance If we manage to train x number of Iraqi police, find y weapons caches, secure Iraqis borders to z level then we begin to pull troops out. That would provide all of the definition that we need to win the war Iraq.
     
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    That the parts he is quoteing make one good point about a problem, gives no suggestion on solveing it, and so surrounds by a waterfall of insipid bullshit.
     
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