What are you prepared to do?

[rightwinger]

The Clinton assault weapons ban was enacted in 1996 and then lapsed in 2004. But there has been absolutely no federal gun bans since 1996.

The 'cop killer' bullets debate was earlier than that.

The NRA has congress in its pocket. Even consensus gun laws like universal background checks has been left to rot on committee room floors.

The notion that democrats are coming to a ho,e near you to take guns away is an emotional argument despite the dismissal of emotional arguments proffered by the gun lobby's talking points. Hypocrites and fear,mongerers. And these are the people who want to have guns.

Dude, do you ever realize WHEN you're getting spanked? Did you just read my previous post?

In recent years, there have been no bans at the federal level? Do you think that pro-gunners are idiots? Since the Heller decision, most of the gun ban issue is at the STATE level. Take a look at what just happened in Massachusetts. And see my previous thread.

Gun control legislation on a state level. Isn't that the dream scenario of gun lovers? I am assuming that in all other things your point of view would be consistently Conservative. Therefore, limited federal government vis-a-vis gun legislation should be a welcomed thing. If state's rights can be used to justify every other Conservative talking,point, why does it not also apply to guns?

False assumption on your part. Conservatives and liberals are two sides of the same coin. I'm part constitutionalist and part Libertarian. Conservatives seem to find tyranny and oppression acceptable if it is managed by "conservative " Republicans.

I, on the other hand, believe in unalienable Rights. Unalienable Rights are those Rights that you are born with and are above the reach of government. Those basic Rights are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. The Right to keep and bear Arms is an extension of your Right to Life and Liberty. Those Rights predated the Constitution.

So, while I'm advocating for a position whereby gun violence can be radically reduced without gun control, neither the Ds nor the Rs, conservative or liberal, right or left are receptive to preserving our Rights as the founders intended. While the left is lying about what their ultimate goal is, or better, why they pursue that goal, I'm a one man show in maintaining and preserving unalienable Rights. Liberals have yet to articulate their end game.

God gave you a right to own guns?

Yes, he most assuredly did.

Moses came down from the Mount with a gun?

 

[Humorme]

Dude, do you ever realize WHEN you're getting spanked? Did you just read my previous post?

In recent years, there have been no bans at the federal level? Do you think that pro-gunners are idiots? Since the Heller decision, most of the gun ban issue is at the STATE level. Take a look at what just happened in Massachusetts. And see my previous thread.

Gun control legislation on a state level. Isn't that the dream scenario of gun lovers? I am assuming that in all other things your point of view would be consistently Conservative. Therefore, limited federal government vis-a-vis gun legislation should be a welcomed thing. If state's rights can be used to justify every other Conservative talking,point, why does it not also apply to guns?

False assumption on your part. Conservatives and liberals are two sides of the same coin. I'm part constitutionalist and part Libertarian. Conservatives seem to find tyranny and oppression acceptable if it is managed by "conservative " Republicans.

I, on the other hand, believe in unalienable Rights. Unalienable Rights are those Rights that you are born with and are above the reach of government. Those basic Rights are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. The Right to keep and bear Arms is an extension of your Right to Life and Liberty. Those Rights predated the Constitution.

So, while I'm advocating for a position whereby gun violence can be radically reduced without gun control, neither the Ds nor the Rs, conservative or liberal, right or left are receptive to preserving our Rights as the founders intended. While the left is lying about what their ultimate goal is, or better, why they pursue that goal, I'm a one man show in maintaining and preserving unalienable Rights. Liberals have yet to articulate their end game.

God gave you a right to own guns?

Yes, he most assuredly did.

Moses came down from the Mount with a gun?

Mini lesson for you:

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" II Timothy 3 : 16

'21 When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are in peace.22 But when a stronger than he comes upon him and overcomes him, he takes from him all his armor in which he trusted, and divides his spoils." Luke 11: 21 and 22

The Bible does not teach Christians how to be good victims. It teaches us that there is a time and a place for everything. Again, staying in the book of Luke, we read:

"Then said he (Jesus) to them (his disciples), But now, he that has a purse, let him take it, and likewise his money: and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." Luke 22: 36

Without a verse by verse explanation of entire chapters, Jesus basically taught us there is a time and a place for everything and we are not required to become victims. Here, Jesus has his disciples carrying swords even if they have to hock their robes in order to get them. For what, to look cool? And it can be confusing.

In Romans chapter 13, the Bible teaches man to "obey the higher powers." The founders of this nation agonized over this because to separate themselves from the rule of King George went contrary to everything a Christian is taught in that book of the Bible. But ALL Scripture is given for instruction in righteousness. And so they had to reconcile Romans 13 with other scripture like:

"For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery." Galatians 5 : 1

After the founders had exhausted all of their remedies, they duly noted them in the Declaration of Independence. When King George would not respect the Rights of the colonists, they ended up separating from his rule. Now, did they use firearms against the tyrannical rule of an oppressive government? And do you think, after having lived that historical nightmare, the founders did not think our own government may become equally tyrannical? It makes no sense that they knew that could happen here and they would leave us in a vulnerable position whereby we couldn't deter tyranny and oppression.

 

[rightwinger]

Gun control legislation on a state level. Isn't that the dream scenario of gun lovers? I am assuming that in all other things your point of view would be consistently Conservative. Therefore, limited federal government vis-a-vis gun legislation should be a welcomed thing. If state's rights can be used to justify every other Conservative talking,point, why does it not also apply to guns?

False assumption on your part. Conservatives and liberals are two sides of the same coin. I'm part constitutionalist and part Libertarian. Conservatives seem to find tyranny and oppression acceptable if it is managed by "conservative " Republicans.

I, on the other hand, believe in unalienable Rights. Unalienable Rights are those Rights that you are born with and are above the reach of government. Those basic Rights are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. The Right to keep and bear Arms is an extension of your Right to Life and Liberty. Those Rights predated the Constitution.

So, while I'm advocating for a position whereby gun violence can be radically reduced without gun control, neither the Ds nor the Rs, conservative or liberal, right or left are receptive to preserving our Rights as the founders intended. While the left is lying about what their ultimate goal is, or better, why they pursue that goal, I'm a one man show in maintaining and preserving unalienable Rights. Liberals have yet to articulate their end game.

God gave you a right to own guns?

Yes, he most assuredly did.

Moses came down from the Mount with a gun?

Mini lesson for you:

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" II Timothy 3 : 16

'21 When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are in peace.22 But when a stronger than he comes upon him and overcomes him, he takes from him all his armor in which he trusted, and divides his spoils." Luke 11: 21 and 22

The Bible does not teach Christians how to be good victims. It teaches us that there is a time and a place for everything. Again, staying in the book of Luke, we read:

"Then said he (Jesus) to them (his disciples), But now, he that has a purse, let him take it, and likewise his money: and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." Luke 22: 36

Without a verse by verse explanation of entire chapters, Jesus basically taught us there is a time and a place for everything and we are not required to become victims. Here, Jesus has his disciples carrying swords even if they have to hock their robes in order to get them. For what, to look cool? And it can be confusing.

In Romans chapter 13, the Bible teaches man to "obey the higher powers." The founders of this nation agonized over this because to separate themselves from the rule of King George went contrary to everything a Christian is taught in that book of the Bible. But ALL Scripture is given for instruction in righteousness. And so they had to reconcile Romans 13 with other scripture like:

"For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery." Galatians 5 : 1

After the founders had exhausted all of their remedies, they duly noted them in the Declaration of Independence. When King George would not respect the Rights of the colonists, they ended up separating from his rule. Now, did they use firearms against the tyrannical rule of an oppressive government? And do you think, after having lived that historical nightmare, the founders did not think our own government may become equally tyrannical? It makes no sense that they knew that could happen here and they would leave us in a vulnerable position whereby we couldn't deter tyranny and oppression.

FAIL

Doesn’t mention guns does it?

 

[Humorme]

False assumption on your part. Conservatives and liberals are two sides of the same coin. I'm part constitutionalist and part Libertarian. Conservatives seem to find tyranny and oppression acceptable if it is managed by "conservative " Republicans.

I, on the other hand, believe in unalienable Rights. Unalienable Rights are those Rights that you are born with and are above the reach of government. Those basic Rights are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. The Right to keep and bear Arms is an extension of your Right to Life and Liberty. Those Rights predated the Constitution.

So, while I'm advocating for a position whereby gun violence can be radically reduced without gun control, neither the Ds nor the Rs, conservative or liberal, right or left are receptive to preserving our Rights as the founders intended. While the left is lying about what their ultimate goal is, or better, why they pursue that goal, I'm a one man show in maintaining and preserving unalienable Rights. Liberals have yet to articulate their end game.

God gave you a right to own guns?

Yes, he most assuredly did.

Moses came down from the Mount with a gun?

Mini lesson for you:

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" II Timothy 3 : 16

'21 When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are in peace.22 But when a stronger than he comes upon him and overcomes him, he takes from him all his armor in which he trusted, and divides his spoils." Luke 11: 21 and 22

The Bible does not teach Christians how to be good victims. It teaches us that there is a time and a place for everything. Again, staying in the book of Luke, we read:

"Then said he (Jesus) to them (his disciples), But now, he that has a purse, let him take it, and likewise his money: and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." Luke 22: 36

Without a verse by verse explanation of entire chapters, Jesus basically taught us there is a time and a place for everything and we are not required to become victims. Here, Jesus has his disciples carrying swords even if they have to hock their robes in order to get them. For what, to look cool? And it can be confusing.

In Romans chapter 13, the Bible teaches man to "obey the higher powers." The founders of this nation agonized over this because to separate themselves from the rule of King George went contrary to everything a Christian is taught in that book of the Bible. But ALL Scripture is given for instruction in righteousness. And so they had to reconcile Romans 13 with other scripture like:

"For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery." Galatians 5 : 1

After the founders had exhausted all of their remedies, they duly noted them in the Declaration of Independence. When King George would not respect the Rights of the colonists, they ended up separating from his rule. Now, did they use firearms against the tyrannical rule of an oppressive government? And do you think, after having lived that historical nightmare, the founders did not think our own government may become equally tyrannical? It makes no sense that they knew that could happen here and they would leave us in a vulnerable position whereby we couldn't deter tyranny and oppression.

FAIL

Doesn’t mention guns does it?

Firearms had not been invented at that point. But, the disciples were as well armed as Caesar's SWAT Team. Why? You were already given that answer.

Among the specific words you won't see in the Bible are pedophile, gambling, opioids, racism, rapture, and transsexual. Yet virtually every denomination has a viewpoint about those subjects and they will reference the Bible and its principles to explain their ideology. You don't need the exact word; the principle is good enough authority.

Natural Rights, also known as unalienable Rights in our Declaration of Independence are not only natural, but inherent, God given and absolute. The founding fathers and the earliest Courts (including the United States Supreme Court) agreed that the Right to keep and bear Arms predated the Constitution. Under our de jure / lawful Constitution we are currently being deprived of the Rights guaranteed to individuals.

 

[rightwinger]

God gave you a right to own guns?

Yes, he most assuredly did.

Moses came down from the Mount with a gun?

Mini lesson for you:

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" II Timothy 3 : 16

'21 When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are in peace.22 But when a stronger than he comes upon him and overcomes him, he takes from him all his armor in which he trusted, and divides his spoils." Luke 11: 21 and 22

The Bible does not teach Christians how to be good victims. It teaches us that there is a time and a place for everything. Again, staying in the book of Luke, we read:

"Then said he (Jesus) to them (his disciples), But now, he that has a purse, let him take it, and likewise his money: and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." Luke 22: 36

Without a verse by verse explanation of entire chapters, Jesus basically taught us there is a time and a place for everything and we are not required to become victims. Here, Jesus has his disciples carrying swords even if they have to hock their robes in order to get them. For what, to look cool? And it can be confusing.

In Romans chapter 13, the Bible teaches man to "obey the higher powers." The founders of this nation agonized over this because to separate themselves from the rule of King George went contrary to everything a Christian is taught in that book of the Bible. But ALL Scripture is given for instruction in righteousness. And so they had to reconcile Romans 13 with other scripture like:

"For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery." Galatians 5 : 1

After the founders had exhausted all of their remedies, they duly noted them in the Declaration of Independence. When King George would not respect the Rights of the colonists, they ended up separating from his rule. Now, did they use firearms against the tyrannical rule of an oppressive government? And do you think, after having lived that historical nightmare, the founders did not think our own government may become equally tyrannical? It makes no sense that they knew that could happen here and they would leave us in a vulnerable position whereby we couldn't deter tyranny and oppression.

FAIL

Doesn’t mention guns does it?

Firearms had not been invented at that point. But, the disciples were as well armed as Caesar's SWAT Team. Why? You were already given that answer.

Among the specific words you won't see in the Bible are pedophile, gambling, opioids, racism, rapture, and transsexual. Yet virtually every denomination has a viewpoint about those subjects and they will reference the Bible and its principles to explain their ideology. You don't need the exact word; the principle is good enough authority.

Natural Rights, also known as unalienable Rights in our Declaration of Independence are not only natural, but inherent, God given and absolute. The founding fathers and the earliest Courts (including the United States Supreme Court) agreed that the Right to keep and bear Arms predated the Constitution. Under our de jure / lawful Constitution we are currently being deprived of the Rights guaranteed to individuals.

God knew

 

[Humorme]

Yes, he most assuredly did.

Moses came down from the Mount with a gun?

Mini lesson for you:

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" II Timothy 3 : 16

'21 When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are in peace.22 But when a stronger than he comes upon him and overcomes him, he takes from him all his armor in which he trusted, and divides his spoils." Luke 11: 21 and 22

The Bible does not teach Christians how to be good victims. It teaches us that there is a time and a place for everything. Again, staying in the book of Luke, we read:

"Then said he (Jesus) to them (his disciples), But now, he that has a purse, let him take it, and likewise his money: and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." Luke 22: 36

Without a verse by verse explanation of entire chapters, Jesus basically taught us there is a time and a place for everything and we are not required to become victims. Here, Jesus has his disciples carrying swords even if they have to hock their robes in order to get them. For what, to look cool? And it can be confusing.

In Romans chapter 13, the Bible teaches man to "obey the higher powers." The founders of this nation agonized over this because to separate themselves from the rule of King George went contrary to everything a Christian is taught in that book of the Bible. But ALL Scripture is given for instruction in righteousness. And so they had to reconcile Romans 13 with other scripture like:

"For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery." Galatians 5 : 1

After the founders had exhausted all of their remedies, they duly noted them in the Declaration of Independence. When King George would not respect the Rights of the colonists, they ended up separating from his rule. Now, did they use firearms against the tyrannical rule of an oppressive government? And do you think, after having lived that historical nightmare, the founders did not think our own government may become equally tyrannical? It makes no sense that they knew that could happen here and they would leave us in a vulnerable position whereby we couldn't deter tyranny and oppression.

FAIL

Doesn’t mention guns does it?

Firearms had not been invented at that point. But, the disciples were as well armed as Caesar's SWAT Team. Why? You were already given that answer.

Among the specific words you won't see in the Bible are pedophile, gambling, opioids, racism, rapture, and transsexual. Yet virtually every denomination has a viewpoint about those subjects and they will reference the Bible and its principles to explain their ideology. You don't need the exact word; the principle is good enough authority.

Natural Rights, also known as unalienable Rights in our Declaration of Independence are not only natural, but inherent, God given and absolute. The founding fathers and the earliest Courts (including the United States Supreme Court) agreed that the Right to keep and bear Arms predated the Constitution. Under our de jure / lawful Constitution we are currently being deprived of the Rights guaranteed to individuals.

God knew

Sure did and just to show you either did not or cannot read, the admonition is that if you want your goods (your possessions) to be at peace you are to be fully armed. If someone is better armed, they take what you have.

So, what point, if any are you trying to make? Or you just like playing games of mental masturbation?

 

[PredFan]

i ask all of my brothers and sisters this famous question from The Untouchables:

“What are you prepared to do?

View attachment 191687

I have heard a lot of talk here and elsewhere from 2nd Amendment supporters like me. How theywont turn in their guns, how it will be the next Civil War if they try to take them, I see hats with Mulon Labe on them and I see Gadson Flags flying.

But what are you REALLY prepared to do when they come? You have jobs, you have a family, a mortgage, are you ready to become an outlaw?

I have given this a lot of real thought. I have personally decided that yes, I am prepared to be an outlaw. I have a mortgage, I have a family but they are all grown and on their own now. I have a job that I love but will put in jeopardy. But I am willing.

The key I think is to defy the laws and not get caught. To have my guns and everything else too. I am making plans to that end.

This guy WILL
NOT COMPLY, EVER.

What are YOU prepared to do?

When threads are in danger of being hijacked by the left and I'm interested in the topic, I like to repost the OP and start over.

The reality is, a friend and I were talking a just two weeks ago about the 1980s. In those days I owned a pen gun (it was a single shot .22 LR) weapon that fit in your pocket like a pen and the clip that held it in your shirt would pop down and become the trigger. Most of you have never seen a real one.

Others had AR15 rifles with a 12 gauge shotgun mounted underneath. How many of you have ever seen one? There was the Cobray MAC 10, the ppsh, and the shotguns made to look like the XM18. You won't see any of those guns any longer.

The Uzi, AK, and the SKS are all banned from import as well as the 8 shot Norinco .45 acp.

Some states have raised the age limit for buying weapons; the Lautenberg Amendment paved the way for ex post facto laws - and that will be finalized by the bump stock ban. There are always methods to criminalize people so that they cannot own weapons - and what are we doing? We'll do the same exact thing we're doing in Massachusetts - nada, zilch, nothing.

The door to door, search and seizure scenarios will not be nationwide. IF they happen, it will be after they have registered most of the weaponry in a local geographic area and then go into one town or the other. It will be done on an incremental basis.

The real answer to your question is this: What are YOU doing now? Did you realize that the NRA has supported most of the anti - gun laws on the books? And, unlike the civil rights protesters, pro-gun people are too lazy and scared to use passive resistance and civil disobedience. If 50,000 gun owners marched on Massachusetts this week-end that would impress me.

And the question is, What are YOU doing now about it? Burying your guns and allowing them to rot and rust? Making plans to tell Uncle Scam you lost your weapon or it sank in the river on your latest boat trip? For years I've been trying to find out what people were doing and what they could do. It's been mostly wasted effort since gun owners have become knee jerk reactionaries and only worry about the issue when it makes the front page headlines.

What am I prepared to do? Until you exhaust all of your non-violent legal and political avenues of redress; until you've submitted solutions to the legislators that will solve the problem without gun control; until you've left the Net and sit around a kitchen table with those of like mind, discussing this paragraph, face to face - then you will capitulate at some point.

Might be true of some, but not this guy.

Non-violent legal and political avenues, I’m doing that now. Not just on the internet, but with emails and phone calls, and not just from the comfort of my home, I was recently in Tallahassee to join the rally for the 2A there.

I will never capitulate even if and when these options fail. It is then that the plans I am making now will be in effect.

What are YOU doing? I mean besides criticizing the plans of others?

 

[Humorme]

i ask all of my brothers and sisters this famous question from The Untouchables:

“What are you prepared to do?

View attachment 191687

I have heard a lot of talk here and elsewhere from 2nd Amendment supporters like me. How theywont turn in their guns, how it will be the next Civil War if they try to take them, I see hats with Mulon Labe on them and I see Gadson Flags flying.

But what are you REALLY prepared to do when they come? You have jobs, you have a family, a mortgage, are you ready to become an outlaw?

I have given this a lot of real thought. I have personally decided that yes, I am prepared to be an outlaw. I have a mortgage, I have a family but they are all grown and on their own now. I have a job that I love but will put in jeopardy. But I am willing.

The key I think is to defy the laws and not get caught. To have my guns and everything else too. I am making plans to that end.

This guy WILL
NOT COMPLY, EVER.

What are YOU prepared to do?

When threads are in danger of being hijacked by the left and I'm interested in the topic, I like to repost the OP and start over.

The reality is, a friend and I were talking a just two weeks ago about the 1980s. In those days I owned a pen gun (it was a single shot .22 LR) weapon that fit in your pocket like a pen and the clip that held it in your shirt would pop down and become the trigger. Most of you have never seen a real one.

Others had AR15 rifles with a 12 gauge shotgun mounted underneath. How many of you have ever seen one? There was the Cobray MAC 10, the ppsh, and the shotguns made to look like the XM18. You won't see any of those guns any longer.

The Uzi, AK, and the SKS are all banned from import as well as the 8 shot Norinco .45 acp.

Some states have raised the age limit for buying weapons; the Lautenberg Amendment paved the way for ex post facto laws - and that will be finalized by the bump stock ban. There are always methods to criminalize people so that they cannot own weapons - and what are we doing? We'll do the same exact thing we're doing in Massachusetts - nada, zilch, nothing.

The door to door, search and seizure scenarios will not be nationwide. IF they happen, it will be after they have registered most of the weaponry in a local geographic area and then go into one town or the other. It will be done on an incremental basis.

The real answer to your question is this: What are YOU doing now? Did you realize that the NRA has supported most of the anti - gun laws on the books? And, unlike the civil rights protesters, pro-gun people are too lazy and scared to use passive resistance and civil disobedience. If 50,000 gun owners marched on Massachusetts this week-end that would impress me.

And the question is, What are YOU doing now about it? Burying your guns and allowing them to rot and rust? Making plans to tell Uncle Scam you lost your weapon or it sank in the river on your latest boat trip? For years I've been trying to find out what people were doing and what they could do. It's been mostly wasted effort since gun owners have become knee jerk reactionaries and only worry about the issue when it makes the front page headlines.

What am I prepared to do? Until you exhaust all of your non-violent legal and political avenues of redress; until you've submitted solutions to the legislators that will solve the problem without gun control; until you've left the Net and sit around a kitchen table with those of like mind, discussing this paragraph, face to face - then you will capitulate at some point.

Might be true of some, but not this guy.

Non-violent legal and political avenues, I’m doing that now. Not just on the internet, but with emails and phone calls, and not just from the comfort of my home, I was recently in Tallahassee to join the rally for the 2A there.

I will never capitulate even if and when these options fail. It is then that the plans I am making now will be in effect.

What are YOU doing? I mean besides criticizing the plans of others?

Thanks for asking.

I am in discussions with a state senator on a prison reform bill. It will eliminate early releases except if an inmate earns it. For example, they can get a quarter of their sentence taken off for obtaining a GED; completion of drug rehab takes some off their sentence and so would taking training in a field that translates into an actual job upon release.

Part of that legislation would give employers tax incentives to hire these people As it is, even a ten year old pot conviction for a 17 year old might as well be a death sentence. Nobody wants to hire you if you have any kind of criminal record.

I try to speak at town hall meetings held by our congresscritters and even take some of them out to lunch just to make sure they know their actions are being monitored.

I will be graduating in September with a degree in Christian Education and am trying to get someone to help me start a podcast. IF this is God's will, I'm thinking about going from podcast to a website and offering educational materials on both issues of faith AND those of being solid citizens.

I've also written a booklet that takes people step by step through all their nonviolent political and legal remedies. IF I could get the podcast up and going I could make the booklet available to people just like yourself via donations from the podcast. I have to get through school first but, if you know anyone of like mind that would donate a little time to get the podcast going - I'm all about getting it done.

In the past, I've managed political campaigns up to the state level (and won); used to hold twice monthly meetings in the banquet room of a place called Ryans Steak House; more than ten years service in a civilian militia as a Commanding Officer (30 years total experience there) and my local newspaper (before it got bought out) had an editorial about me and they said I was the most quoted man in Georgia at that time.

That's a partial list - kind of hard putting several decades into one posting, but thank you for asking. I'm not asking you to do anything I could not or would not do - or for that matter, plan to do.

 

[rightwinger]

Moses came down from the Mount with a gun?

Mini lesson for you:

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" II Timothy 3 : 16

'21 When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are in peace.22 But when a stronger than he comes upon him and overcomes him, he takes from him all his armor in which he trusted, and divides his spoils." Luke 11: 21 and 22

The Bible does not teach Christians how to be good victims. It teaches us that there is a time and a place for everything. Again, staying in the book of Luke, we read:

"Then said he (Jesus) to them (his disciples), But now, he that has a purse, let him take it, and likewise his money: and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." Luke 22: 36

Without a verse by verse explanation of entire chapters, Jesus basically taught us there is a time and a place for everything and we are not required to become victims. Here, Jesus has his disciples carrying swords even if they have to hock their robes in order to get them. For what, to look cool? And it can be confusing.

In Romans chapter 13, the Bible teaches man to "obey the higher powers." The founders of this nation agonized over this because to separate themselves from the rule of King George went contrary to everything a Christian is taught in that book of the Bible. But ALL Scripture is given for instruction in righteousness. And so they had to reconcile Romans 13 with other scripture like:

"For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery." Galatians 5 : 1

After the founders had exhausted all of their remedies, they duly noted them in the Declaration of Independence. When King George would not respect the Rights of the colonists, they ended up separating from his rule. Now, did they use firearms against the tyrannical rule of an oppressive government? And do you think, after having lived that historical nightmare, the founders did not think our own government may become equally tyrannical? It makes no sense that they knew that could happen here and they would leave us in a vulnerable position whereby we couldn't deter tyranny and oppression.

FAIL

Doesn’t mention guns does it?

Firearms had not been invented at that point. But, the disciples were as well armed as Caesar's SWAT Team. Why? You were already given that answer.

Among the specific words you won't see in the Bible are pedophile, gambling, opioids, racism, rapture, and transsexual. Yet virtually every denomination has a viewpoint about those subjects and they will reference the Bible and its principles to explain their ideology. You don't need the exact word; the principle is good enough authority.

Natural Rights, also known as unalienable Rights in our Declaration of Independence are not only natural, but inherent, God given and absolute. The founding fathers and the earliest Courts (including the United States Supreme Court) agreed that the Right to keep and bear Arms predated the Constitution. Under our de jure / lawful Constitution we are currently being deprived of the Rights guaranteed to individuals.

God knew

Sure did and just to show you either did not or cannot read, the admonition is that if you want your goods (your possessions) to be at peace you are to be fully armed. If someone is better armed, they take what you have.

So, what point, if any are you trying to make? Or you just like playing games of mental masturbation?

Says nothing about guns does it?

 

[Humorme]

Mini lesson for you:

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" II Timothy 3 : 16

'21 When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are in peace.22 But when a stronger than he comes upon him and overcomes him, he takes from him all his armor in which he trusted, and divides his spoils." Luke 11: 21 and 22

The Bible does not teach Christians how to be good victims. It teaches us that there is a time and a place for everything. Again, staying in the book of Luke, we read:

"Then said he (Jesus) to them (his disciples), But now, he that has a purse, let him take it, and likewise his money: and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." Luke 22: 36

Without a verse by verse explanation of entire chapters, Jesus basically taught us there is a time and a place for everything and we are not required to become victims. Here, Jesus has his disciples carrying swords even if they have to hock their robes in order to get them. For what, to look cool? And it can be confusing.

In Romans chapter 13, the Bible teaches man to "obey the higher powers." The founders of this nation agonized over this because to separate themselves from the rule of King George went contrary to everything a Christian is taught in that book of the Bible. But ALL Scripture is given for instruction in righteousness. And so they had to reconcile Romans 13 with other scripture like:

"For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery." Galatians 5 : 1

After the founders had exhausted all of their remedies, they duly noted them in the Declaration of Independence. When King George would not respect the Rights of the colonists, they ended up separating from his rule. Now, did they use firearms against the tyrannical rule of an oppressive government? And do you think, after having lived that historical nightmare, the founders did not think our own government may become equally tyrannical? It makes no sense that they knew that could happen here and they would leave us in a vulnerable position whereby we couldn't deter tyranny and oppression.

FAIL

Doesn’t mention guns does it?

Firearms had not been invented at that point. But, the disciples were as well armed as Caesar's SWAT Team. Why? You were already given that answer.

Among the specific words you won't see in the Bible are pedophile, gambling, opioids, racism, rapture, and transsexual. Yet virtually every denomination has a viewpoint about those subjects and they will reference the Bible and its principles to explain their ideology. You don't need the exact word; the principle is good enough authority.

Natural Rights, also known as unalienable Rights in our Declaration of Independence are not only natural, but inherent, God given and absolute. The founding fathers and the earliest Courts (including the United States Supreme Court) agreed that the Right to keep and bear Arms predated the Constitution. Under our de jure / lawful Constitution we are currently being deprived of the Rights guaranteed to individuals.

God knew

Sure did and just to show you either did not or cannot read, the admonition is that if you want your goods (your possessions) to be at peace you are to be fully armed. If someone is better armed, they take what you have.

So, what point, if any are you trying to make? Or you just like playing games of mental masturbation?

Says nothing about guns does it?

Yes, it does. You asked - you've been answered. You're trying to be stupid now. If I start making defense devices and they small arms, but we don't call them guns, then that should cause you to clam up.

Look dude, I don't do this for entertainment. Pick someone else because I have little patience for stupidity.

"Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." II Corinthians 3 : 17

One cannot maintain Liberty without the appropriate tools - so the answer to your question is yes. It's been asked and answered; I won't do it again.

 

[MikeK]

It never fails to amuse how most on the right have come to loath the Heller ruling and believe their hero Scalia ‘betrayed’ them because he acknowledged the fact that the Second Amendment is neither unlimited nor absolute, and subject to restrictions by government.

The betrayal is obvious and Scalia is a babbling fool.

 

[Humorme]

i ask all of my brothers and sisters this famous question from The Untouchables:

“What are you prepared to do?

View attachment 191687

I have heard a lot of talk here and elsewhere from 2nd Amendment supporters like me. How theywont turn in their guns, how it will be the next Civil War if they try to take them, I see hats with Mulon Labe on them and I see Gadson Flags flying.

But what are you REALLY prepared to do when they come? You have jobs, you have a family, a mortgage, are you ready to become an outlaw?

I have given this a lot of real thought. I have personally decided that yes, I am prepared to be an outlaw. I have a mortgage, I have a family but they are all grown and on their own now. I have a job that I love but will put in jeopardy. But I am willing.

The key I think is to defy the laws and not get caught. To have my guns and everything else too. I am making plans to that end.

This guy WILL
NOT COMPLY, EVER.

What are YOU prepared to do?

What do you expect of gun control legislation? Consider that nothing NOTHING has been enacted except the non-renewal of the Asault Weapons Ban of the mid 1990s.

If you are this frightened, what does that do to the gun lover comeback of 'gun control is gunned up by emotion, not common sense'?

Every election cycle, the NRA runs fear filled ads claiming the Democrats are going to take your guns. Yet even when the Democrats held majority in 2008, no anti gun legislation was debated, let alone passed.

Nothing has been enacted? You aren’t paying attention.

Not frightened, standing up for my rights.

For the 1000th time, the left IS coming after our guns. Some of you are even honest enough to say it outright.

Please cite the federal legislation passed banning guns in the last twenty years.

Your stupidity and illiteracy is boring me. Please re-read my post S L O W L Y, maybe something will get through your thick skull.

Your fear is fantasy.

Is it really?

 

[Nosmo King]

What do you expect of gun control legislation? Consider that nothing NOTHING has been enacted except the non-renewal of the Asault Weapons Ban of the mid 1990s.

If you are this frightened, what does that do to the gun lover comeback of 'gun control is gunned up by emotion, not common sense'?

Every election cycle, the NRA runs fear filled ads claiming the Democrats are going to take your guns. Yet even when the Democrats held majority in 2008, no anti gun legislation was debated, let alone passed.

Nothing has been enacted? You aren’t paying attention.

Not frightened, standing up for my rights.

For the 1000th time, the left IS coming after our guns. Some of you are even honest enough to say it outright.

Please cite the federal legislation passed banning guns in the last twenty years.

Your stupidity and illiteracy is boring me. Please re-read my post S L O W L Y, maybe something will get through your thick skull.

Your fear is fantasy.

Is it really?

Your fear is ginned up by the NRA and its potent media arm. Every election cycle they sing the same song into the same fearful ears. Any effort to curb gun violence is both ineffective and an affront to your supposed right to bear any and all arms you please. And the Democrats are always cast in the role of jackbooted confiscators. And yet every election cycle Democrats win seats and no guns are taken away.

Gun lovers say arguments for gun control are not based in fact being t on emotion. The gun lovers mock and say doing anything, especially for the children rings hollow.

But they also rely on the emotion of fear to press their point that guns are endangered.

 

[PredFan]

i ask all of my brothers and sisters this famous question from The Untouchables:

“What are you prepared to do?

View attachment 191687

I have heard a lot of talk here and elsewhere from 2nd Amendment supporters like me. How theywont turn in their guns, how it will be the next Civil War if they try to take them, I see hats with Mulon Labe on them and I see Gadson Flags flying.

But what are you REALLY prepared to do when they come? You have jobs, you have a family, a mortgage, are you ready to become an outlaw?

I have given this a lot of real thought. I have personally decided that yes, I am prepared to be an outlaw. I have a mortgage, I have a family but they are all grown and on their own now. I have a job that I love but will put in jeopardy. But I am willing.

The key I think is to defy the laws and not get caught. To have my guns and everything else too. I am making plans to that end.

This guy WILL
NOT COMPLY, EVER.

What are YOU prepared to do?

When threads are in danger of being hijacked by the left and I'm interested in the topic, I like to repost the OP and start over.

The reality is, a friend and I were talking a just two weeks ago about the 1980s. In those days I owned a pen gun (it was a single shot .22 LR) weapon that fit in your pocket like a pen and the clip that held it in your shirt would pop down and become the trigger. Most of you have never seen a real one.

Others had AR15 rifles with a 12 gauge shotgun mounted underneath. How many of you have ever seen one? There was the Cobray MAC 10, the ppsh, and the shotguns made to look like the XM18. You won't see any of those guns any longer.

The Uzi, AK, and the SKS are all banned from import as well as the 8 shot Norinco .45 acp.

Some states have raised the age limit for buying weapons; the Lautenberg Amendment paved the way for ex post facto laws - and that will be finalized by the bump stock ban. There are always methods to criminalize people so that they cannot own weapons - and what are we doing? We'll do the same exact thing we're doing in Massachusetts - nada, zilch, nothing.

The door to door, search and seizure scenarios will not be nationwide. IF they happen, it will be after they have registered most of the weaponry in a local geographic area and then go into one town or the other. It will be done on an incremental basis.

The real answer to your question is this: What are YOU doing now? Did you realize that the NRA has supported most of the anti - gun laws on the books? And, unlike the civil rights protesters, pro-gun people are too lazy and scared to use passive resistance and civil disobedience. If 50,000 gun owners marched on Massachusetts this week-end that would impress me.

And the question is, What are YOU doing now about it? Burying your guns and allowing them to rot and rust? Making plans to tell Uncle Scam you lost your weapon or it sank in the river on your latest boat trip? For years I've been trying to find out what people were doing and what they could do. It's been mostly wasted effort since gun owners have become knee jerk reactionaries and only worry about the issue when it makes the front page headlines.

What am I prepared to do? Until you exhaust all of your non-violent legal and political avenues of redress; until you've submitted solutions to the legislators that will solve the problem without gun control; until you've left the Net and sit around a kitchen table with those of like mind, discussing this paragraph, face to face - then you will capitulate at some point.

Might be true of some, but not this guy.

Non-violent legal and political avenues, I’m doing that now. Not just on the internet, but with emails and phone calls, and not just from the comfort of my home, I was recently in Tallahassee to join the rally for the 2A there.

I will never capitulate even if and when these options fail. It is then that the plans I am making now will be in effect.

What are YOU doing? I mean besides criticizing the plans of others?

Thanks for asking.

I am in discussions with a state senator on a prison reform bill. It will eliminate early releases except if an inmate earns it. For example, they can get a quarter of their sentence taken off for obtaining a GED; completion of drug rehab takes some off their sentence and so would taking training in a field that translates into an actual job upon release.

Part of that legislation would give employers tax incentives to hire these people As it is, even a ten year old pot conviction for a 17 year old might as well be a death sentence. Nobody wants to hire you if you have any kind of criminal record.

I try to speak at town hall meetings held by our congresscritters and even take some of them out to lunch just to make sure they know their actions are being monitored.

I will be graduating in September with a degree in Christian Education and am trying to get someone to help me start a podcast. IF this is God's will, I'm thinking about going from podcast to a website and offering educational materials on both issues of faith AND those of being solid citizens.

I've also written a booklet that takes people step by step through all their nonviolent political and legal remedies. IF I could get the podcast up and going I could make the booklet available to people just like yourself via donations from the podcast. I have to get through school first but, if you know anyone of like mind that would donate a little time to get the podcast going - I'm all about getting it done.

In the past, I've managed political campaigns up to the state level (and won); used to hold twice monthly meetings in the banquet room of a place called Ryans Steak House; more than ten years service in a civilian militia as a Commanding Officer (30 years total experience there) and my local newspaper (before it got bought out) had an editorial about me and they said I was the most quoted man in Georgia at that time.

That's a partial list - kind of hard putting several decades into one posting, but thank you for asking. I'm not asking you to do anything I could not or would not do - or for that matter, plan to do.

How could you be that far off base? Did you actually read the post you quoted? This is about what people are going to do about the unconstitutional infringement of our 2A rights.

 

[Humorme]

Nothing has been enacted? You aren’t paying attention.

Not frightened, standing up for my rights.

For the 1000th time, the left IS coming after our guns. Some of you are even honest enough to say it outright.

Please cite the federal legislation passed banning guns in the last twenty years.

Your stupidity and illiteracy is boring me. Please re-read my post S L O W L Y, maybe something will get through your thick skull.

Your fear is fantasy.

Is it really?

Your fear is ginned up by the NRA and its potent media arm. Every election cycle they sing the same song into the same fearful ears. Any effort to curb gun violence is both ineffective and an affront to your supposed right to bear any and all arms you please. And the Democrats are always cast in the role of jackbooted confiscators. And yet every election cycle Democrats win seats and no guns are taken away.

Gun lovers say arguments for gun control are not based in fact being t on emotion. The gun lovers mock and say doing anything, especially for the children rings hollow.

But they also rely on the emotion of fear to press their point that guns are endangered.

I am not connected to the NRA in any way, shape, fashion or form. I don't even read their literature.

What I know is what I've experienced personally - and bear in mind that includes having done legal research on the subject along with lobbying legislators. So, you can make allegations until Hell freezes over, but an attack on one Amendment in the Bill of Rights is an attack on all of them.

I don't operate off of emotion, just facts.

The problem for the left is that they cannot articulate a sound and logical reason for gun control and bans. They deny what it is they've supported and, at the end of the day, they don't even tell you WHY they want all this control. Here is a sampling of the outrageous B.S.liberals say with respect to gun control:









I live for the day when an anti-gunner can tell me what in name of good common sense they really want relative to this issue. BTW, after extensive searches on YouTube for a coherent and cogent by Democrats on gun control, all I was found was Democrats quoting stupid things right wings PEOPLE say about gun control. My links are the dumb things POLITICIANS - who happen to be Democrats say.

 

[Humorme]

i ask all of my brothers and sisters this famous question from The Untouchables:

“What are you prepared to do?

View attachment 191687

I have heard a lot of talk here and elsewhere from 2nd Amendment supporters like me. How theywont turn in their guns, how it will be the next Civil War if they try to take them, I see hats with Mulon Labe on them and I see Gadson Flags flying.

But what are you REALLY prepared to do when they come? You have jobs, you have a family, a mortgage, are you ready to become an outlaw?

I have given this a lot of real thought. I have personally decided that yes, I am prepared to be an outlaw. I have a mortgage, I have a family but they are all grown and on their own now. I have a job that I love but will put in jeopardy. But I am willing.

The key I think is to defy the laws and not get caught. To have my guns and everything else too. I am making plans to that end.

This guy WILL
NOT COMPLY, EVER.

What are YOU prepared to do?

When threads are in danger of being hijacked by the left and I'm interested in the topic, I like to repost the OP and start over.

The reality is, a friend and I were talking a just two weeks ago about the 1980s. In those days I owned a pen gun (it was a single shot .22 LR) weapon that fit in your pocket like a pen and the clip that held it in your shirt would pop down and become the trigger. Most of you have never seen a real one.

Others had AR15 rifles with a 12 gauge shotgun mounted underneath. How many of you have ever seen one? There was the Cobray MAC 10, the ppsh, and the shotguns made to look like the XM18. You won't see any of those guns any longer.

The Uzi, AK, and the SKS are all banned from import as well as the 8 shot Norinco .45 acp.

Some states have raised the age limit for buying weapons; the Lautenberg Amendment paved the way for ex post facto laws - and that will be finalized by the bump stock ban. There are always methods to criminalize people so that they cannot own weapons - and what are we doing? We'll do the same exact thing we're doing in Massachusetts - nada, zilch, nothing.

The door to door, search and seizure scenarios will not be nationwide. IF they happen, it will be after they have registered most of the weaponry in a local geographic area and then go into one town or the other. It will be done on an incremental basis.

The real answer to your question is this: What are YOU doing now? Did you realize that the NRA has supported most of the anti - gun laws on the books? And, unlike the civil rights protesters, pro-gun people are too lazy and scared to use passive resistance and civil disobedience. If 50,000 gun owners marched on Massachusetts this week-end that would impress me.

And the question is, What are YOU doing now about it? Burying your guns and allowing them to rot and rust? Making plans to tell Uncle Scam you lost your weapon or it sank in the river on your latest boat trip? For years I've been trying to find out what people were doing and what they could do. It's been mostly wasted effort since gun owners have become knee jerk reactionaries and only worry about the issue when it makes the front page headlines.

What am I prepared to do? Until you exhaust all of your non-violent legal and political avenues of redress; until you've submitted solutions to the legislators that will solve the problem without gun control; until you've left the Net and sit around a kitchen table with those of like mind, discussing this paragraph, face to face - then you will capitulate at some point.

Might be true of some, but not this guy.

Non-violent legal and political avenues, I’m doing that now. Not just on the internet, but with emails and phone calls, and not just from the comfort of my home, I was recently in Tallahassee to join the rally for the 2A there.

I will never capitulate even if and when these options fail. It is then that the plans I am making now will be in effect.

What are YOU doing? I mean besides criticizing the plans of others?

Thanks for asking.

I am in discussions with a state senator on a prison reform bill. It will eliminate early releases except if an inmate earns it. For example, they can get a quarter of their sentence taken off for obtaining a GED; completion of drug rehab takes some off their sentence and so would taking training in a field that translates into an actual job upon release.

Part of that legislation would give employers tax incentives to hire these people As it is, even a ten year old pot conviction for a 17 year old might as well be a death sentence. Nobody wants to hire you if you have any kind of criminal record.

I try to speak at town hall meetings held by our congresscritters and even take some of them out to lunch just to make sure they know their actions are being monitored.

I will be graduating in September with a degree in Christian Education and am trying to get someone to help me start a podcast. IF this is God's will, I'm thinking about going from podcast to a website and offering educational materials on both issues of faith AND those of being solid citizens.

I've also written a booklet that takes people step by step through all their nonviolent political and legal remedies. IF I could get the podcast up and going I could make the booklet available to people just like yourself via donations from the podcast. I have to get through school first but, if you know anyone of like mind that would donate a little time to get the podcast going - I'm all about getting it done.

In the past, I've managed political campaigns up to the state level (and won); used to hold twice monthly meetings in the banquet room of a place called Ryans Steak House; more than ten years service in a civilian militia as a Commanding Officer (30 years total experience there) and my local newspaper (before it got bought out) had an editorial about me and they said I was the most quoted man in Georgia at that time.

That's a partial list - kind of hard putting several decades into one posting, but thank you for asking. I'm not asking you to do anything I could not or would not do - or for that matter, plan to do.

How could you be that far off base? Did you actually read the post you quoted? This is about what people are going to do about the unconstitutional infringement of our 2A rights.

What, specifically, do you think I'm far off base about?

When I'm not being distracted by the left, I am reading what you wrote and telling you the realities of the times.

To those of you who think the government don't already know about you, you're kidding yourself. All the ammo, gear, tools, etc. that you bought for your firearm - remember the government can access all of your credit / debit card info; stores have security cameras.

If you've waited this long and you don't have the answer to the question the OP posed, if you don't have an answer at this very moment. It appears to me that you want to get mad at me, but in the last twenty five years I've watched pro-gun patriots picked off by the dozens. Some went to jail / prison; some were killed by the LEO community; some are working as paid snitches for Uncle Scam. So, I've probably had a couple more years of real life experience than you (evidenced by not telegraphing potential moves on a discussion board.)

There is a process you go through if you want to do something about the infringements on the Second Amendment. Writing letters to congresscritters and newspapers, voting, supporting political candidates, etc. all have their place, but the entire plan should not be fodder for discussion boards. Everything you do should be timed; it should be calculated to have some definable end game in sight. It has to be a science, just as the Dems do it.

Right now, you won't see the Dems criticize gun control in states where there are a lot of gun owners. If they don't say anything, gun owners will be less whizzed off and maybe stay at home, allowing the Dems get more votes in mid-term elections.

I am more pro-gun on this board than anyone here. And if anyone has a right to be whizzed at the gun lobby, it's me. One of the most important things you can do to stop the infringements is to freeze where the left is now and force a real discussion. How is that accomplished?

Put some proposals on the table to counter-act the bills coming from the left. Offer solutions to gun violence that do not depend on gun control - and would be more effective. It's not going to matter whether the bills get passed. It gets people to talk about what they really want - gun control or reducing gun violence. Gun control is not about saving lives; it's about control.

IF the parents of gun violence could see that the liberals don't give a shit about who gets killed (that's only statistics to justify what they really want), and someone is showing them that if A had been done, your child would still be alive, you would flip two thirds of those who hate guns onto the side of the Second Amendment. Without that step, there is not a Hell of lot you can do. Well, when the libs get back into power you can BOHICA. You were saying?

 

[Nosmo King]

Please cite the federal legislation passed banning guns in the last twenty years.

Your stupidity and illiteracy is boring me. Please re-read my post S L O W L Y, maybe something will get through your thick skull.

Your fear is fantasy.

Is it really?

Your fear is ginned up by the NRA and its potent media arm. Every election cycle they sing the same song into the same fearful ears. Any effort to curb gun violence is both ineffective and an affront to your supposed right to bear any and all arms you please. And the Democrats are always cast in the role of jackbooted confiscators. And yet every election cycle Democrats win seats and no guns are taken away.

Gun lovers say arguments for gun control are not based in fact being t on emotion. The gun lovers mock and say doing anything, especially for the children rings hollow.

But they also rely on the emotion of fear to press their point that guns are endangered.

I am not connected to the NRA in any way, shape, fashion or form. I don't even read their literature.

What I know is what I've experienced personally - and bear in mind that includes having done legal research on the subject along with lobbying legislators. So, you can make allegations until Hell freezes over, but an attack on one Amendment in the Bill of Rights is an attack on all of them.

I don't operate off of emotion, just facts.

The problem for the left is that they cannot articulate a sound and logical reason for gun control and bans. They deny what it is they've supported and, at the end of the day, they don't even tell you WHY they want all this control. Here is a sampling of the outrageous B.S.liberals say with respect to gun control:









I live for the day when an anti-gunner can tell me what in name of good common sense they really want relative to this issue. BTW, after extensive searches on YouTube for a coherent and cogent by Democrats on gun control, all I was found was Democrats quoting stupid things right wings PEOPLE say about gun control. My links are the dumb things POLITICIANS - who happen to be Democrats say.

If you can't understand why people want gun control, let me try to fill in some blanks for you.

TO STEM THE TIDE OF NEEDLESS GUN VIOLENCE IN AMERICA.

I hope that clears things up a bit.

 

[Humorme]

Your stupidity and illiteracy is boring me. Please re-read my post S L O W L Y, maybe something will get through your thick skull.

Your fear is fantasy.

Is it really?

Your fear is ginned up by the NRA and its potent media arm. Every election cycle they sing the same song into the same fearful ears. Any effort to curb gun violence is both ineffective and an affront to your supposed right to bear any and all arms you please. And the Democrats are always cast in the role of jackbooted confiscators. And yet every election cycle Democrats win seats and no guns are taken away.

Gun lovers say arguments for gun control are not based in fact being t on emotion. The gun lovers mock and say doing anything, especially for the children rings hollow.

But they also rely on the emotion of fear to press their point that guns are endangered.

I am not connected to the NRA in any way, shape, fashion or form. I don't even read their literature.

What I know is what I've experienced personally - and bear in mind that includes having done legal research on the subject along with lobbying legislators. So, you can make allegations until Hell freezes over, but an attack on one Amendment in the Bill of Rights is an attack on all of them.

I don't operate off of emotion, just facts.

The problem for the left is that they cannot articulate a sound and logical reason for gun control and bans. They deny what it is they've supported and, at the end of the day, they don't even tell you WHY they want all this control. Here is a sampling of the outrageous B.S.liberals say with respect to gun control:









I live for the day when an anti-gunner can tell me what in name of good common sense they really want relative to this issue. BTW, after extensive searches on YouTube for a coherent and cogent by Democrats on gun control, all I was found was Democrats quoting stupid things right wings PEOPLE say about gun control. My links are the dumb things POLITICIANS - who happen to be Democrats say.

If you can't understand why people want gun control, let me try to fill in some blanks for you.

TO STEM THE TIDE OF NEEDLESS GUN VIOLENCE IN AMERICA.

I hope that clears things up a bit.

That is the POLITICAL PRETEXT. If solutions are presented that are more viable and cheaper - and do not include gun control, the Dems won't even discuss it.

For instance, you cannot tell me how gun registration saves lives. It's a different thread, but that is an example.

 

[Nosmo King]

Your fear is fantasy.

Is it really?

Your fear is ginned up by the NRA and its potent media arm. Every election cycle they sing the same song into the same fearful ears. Any effort to curb gun violence is both ineffective and an affront to your supposed right to bear any and all arms you please. And the Democrats are always cast in the role of jackbooted confiscators. And yet every election cycle Democrats win seats and no guns are taken away.

Gun lovers say arguments for gun control are not based in fact being t on emotion. The gun lovers mock and say doing anything, especially for the children rings hollow.

But they also rely on the emotion of fear to press their point that guns are endangered.

I am not connected to the NRA in any way, shape, fashion or form. I don't even read their literature.

What I know is what I've experienced personally - and bear in mind that includes having done legal research on the subject along with lobbying legislators. So, you can make allegations until Hell freezes over, but an attack on one Amendment in the Bill of Rights is an attack on all of them.

I don't operate off of emotion, just facts.

The problem for the left is that they cannot articulate a sound and logical reason for gun control and bans. They deny what it is they've supported and, at the end of the day, they don't even tell you WHY they want all this control. Here is a sampling of the outrageous B.S.liberals say with respect to gun control:









I live for the day when an anti-gunner can tell me what in name of good common sense they really want relative to this issue. BTW, after extensive searches on YouTube for a coherent and cogent by Democrats on gun control, all I was found was Democrats quoting stupid things right wings PEOPLE say about gun control. My links are the dumb things POLITICIANS - who happen to be Democrats say.

If you can't understand why people want gun control, let me try to fill in some blanks for you.

TO STEM THE TIDE OF NEEDLESS GUN VIOLENCE IN AMERICA.

I hope that clears things up a bit.

That is the POLITICAL PRETEXT. If solutions are presented that are more viable and cheaper - and do not include gun control, the Dems won't even discuss it.

For instance, you cannot tell me how gun registration saves lives. It's a different thread, but that is an example.

Gun registration would be an invaluable tool for law enforcement as well as curb strawman purchases.

We've tried virtual unlimited restrictions on gun ownership. Weak and ineffective background checks. Hell! The NRA even fought for the mentally ill to get guns! And how has that worked out so far?

 

[Humorme]

Is it really?

Your fear is ginned up by the NRA and its potent media arm. Every election cycle they sing the same song into the same fearful ears. Any effort to curb gun violence is both ineffective and an affront to your supposed right to bear any and all arms you please. And the Democrats are always cast in the role of jackbooted confiscators. And yet every election cycle Democrats win seats and no guns are taken away.

Gun lovers say arguments for gun control are not based in fact being t on emotion. The gun lovers mock and say doing anything, especially for the children rings hollow.

But they also rely on the emotion of fear to press their point that guns are endangered.

I am not connected to the NRA in any way, shape, fashion or form. I don't even read their literature.

What I know is what I've experienced personally - and bear in mind that includes having done legal research on the subject along with lobbying legislators. So, you can make allegations until Hell freezes over, but an attack on one Amendment in the Bill of Rights is an attack on all of them.

I don't operate off of emotion, just facts.

The problem for the left is that they cannot articulate a sound and logical reason for gun control and bans. They deny what it is they've supported and, at the end of the day, they don't even tell you WHY they want all this control. Here is a sampling of the outrageous B.S.liberals say with respect to gun control:









I live for the day when an anti-gunner can tell me what in name of good common sense they really want relative to this issue. BTW, after extensive searches on YouTube for a coherent and cogent by Democrats on gun control, all I was found was Democrats quoting stupid things right wings PEOPLE say about gun control. My links are the dumb things POLITICIANS - who happen to be Democrats say.

If you can't understand why people want gun control, let me try to fill in some blanks for you.

TO STEM THE TIDE OF NEEDLESS GUN VIOLENCE IN AMERICA.

I hope that clears things up a bit.

That is the POLITICAL PRETEXT. If solutions are presented that are more viable and cheaper - and do not include gun control, the Dems won't even discuss it.

For instance, you cannot tell me how gun registration saves lives. It's a different thread, but that is an example.

Gun registration would be an invaluable tool for law enforcement as well as curb strawman purchases.

We've tried virtual unlimited restrictions on gun ownership. Weak and ineffective background checks. Hell! The NRA even fought for the mentally ill to get guns! And how has that worked out so far?

How, exactly, do you contend that registration saves lives?