Well, Conservatives... is it Romney?

[Marshall]

Why vote for a Democrat who calls himself a Republican (McCain), a flip flopping Republican (Romney) or a Libertarian who calls himself a Republican (Paul)?

I don't like this election at all. I'm voting for Allen Keys.

 

[eots]

McCain is a foreign policy conservative

During a debate with then-Vice President Al Gore on Oct. 11, 2000, in Winston-Salem, N.C., Bush said: "I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building. . . I think our troops ought to be used to fight and win war.


Romney is an economic conservative

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Huckabee is a social conservative


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Why is it we can't elect someone with all 3 conservative qualities?

Of the three Romney seems to come the closest...but he's unpredictable...as is McPain who already has a proven track record of being too far left. Ron Paul is looking better all the time...if McPain is nominated I might just vote for RP in protest.

how about you vote for ron paul for Conservative qualities instead



p.s shogun hope you like the soundtrack

 

[pegwinn]

Originally Posted by Avatar4321
its definitely not over, for McCain and Romney. But its over for Paul. Look the guy has no chance. I am not saying that to be mean. its just reality.They don't like reality.

Most zealots don't. But in a way one has to admire their tenacity.

Zealot? Moi? Please lil miss... you wound me. RP is a very long shot. But, we have finally reached the point in our history where the bell curve is going to hit the downside if we don't fix "it". The problem is that "it" cannot be fixed by big government, being the worlds police force, or bread and circus's.

Avatar spoke of losing hope.

I understand where he is coming from and would ordinarily concur. Ten years ago we could survive yet another big government pandering to the lowest common denominator.

Today we don't face an enemy that is able to fight us on our terms. Instead we face an enemy that can strike at us, and then fade into places we cannot go without looking like Nazis. Today, our own .gov is taxing our business to the point that going offshore is the only way to survive.

Today our education system teaches to the weakest link and to a test. In fact, a HS diploma is worthless. In more and more fields, a degree is required. At least with a degree there is a fair chance that one has taken remedial English for dummies.

Today is one of those times where we are at the cliff and the label wars are only inching us closer.

In my sig there is a link to another post here on USMB. I invite you to read it. After that; If you still think I am a zealot, then so be it. After all . . . This is still America.

For a little while longer.

 

[Detmurds]

I'm 100% with Romney,...I just hope he asks Fred Thompson to be his VP if he is nominated?

 

[eots]

I'm 100% with Romney,...I just hope he asks Fred Thompson to be his VP if he is nominated?

A vote for Romney... is a vote for Hilary

 

[Detmurds]

A vote for Romney... is a vote for Hilary

And how do you get that equation? Romney being nominated will most likely be going against a Dem nominated Hillary.

 

[Helios]

A vote for Romney... is a vote for Hilary

A vote for Romney is a vote for economic ruin. Nothing will change, not for the better anyway.

 

[Detmurds]

A vote for Romney is a vote for economic ruin. Nothing will change, not for the better anyway.

Helios, who do you support then? (I have not been in the boards much lately)

 

[Helios]

Helios, who do you support then? (I have not been in the boards much lately)

Ron Paul. Hands down. Besides the bonus factors of being the only honest candidate running for president and having the only consistent voting record, I support Ron Paul because he sees through the bullshit, and tells it how it is, he wants to return this country to the prosperity it has seen in its earlier days. He's not trying to push any hidden agenda. He's just there, working for the people, working for lower taxes, working for a free market. It shocks me that the American people, who have long been crying out for "less taxes and a less wasteful government" don't jump at the chance to vote for this man. I had no idea how much sway the MSM has over the minds of the population. Unbelievable.

 

[Avatar4321]

Ha. You live in a glass bubble, not to be mean or anything. It's just reality. Ron Paul is absolutely electable, unless of course the mainstream media continues to ruin his reputation completely by ignoring his victories and simple terming him a no-chancer. This is how the election process works. Everyone watches the news, the news tell you what to do, you damn well better do it. Wouldn't want to actually THINK for yourself about what each candidate means for this country. That would be too much work.

I can't help but point out that Ron Paul doesn't have any victories. He hasnt won a single state. he hasnt even come close. The only state he even came in second, he was still way behind the front runner.

Anyone is electable, but the chances are so miniscule after the races we have had I think it's a very safe bet that he wont be the nominee. I dont think he should necessarily drop out if he doesnt want to. but if you are expecting a win, then i hope you are prepared for disappointment.

 

[Avatar4321]

I agree, can you imagine if the race is McCain vs Obama or Hillary? The socialists vs the democrats! Conservatives would need to make a 3rd party. What could a conservative possibly like about McCain? That he'll wage more wars? This has been a disaster for the republican party. McCain is against tax cuts. He is for illegal immigration. He knows nothing about economics. McCain is known for his partnerships with democrats like Ted Kennedy and Russ Feingold. He is called a 'maverick' because he's a RINO. The worst thing about McCain is he will lose. He is another Bob Dole. Can you imagine Obama vs McCain? 95% of woman will vote for Obama if this is the case. Romney will be able to garner the female vote, woman are not attracted to an old dinasaur like McCain.

yeah because women only vote for the people they are horny for...

 

[Avatar4321]

A vote for Romney is a vote for economic ruin. Nothing will change, not for the better anyway.

yeah, cause a guy who has been in the private sector all of his life creating jobs, financing businesses, cutting waste, etc. cant possibly run this economy well.

 

[Helios]

yeah, cause a guy who has been in the private sector all of his life creating jobs, financing businesses, cutting waste, etc. cant possibly run this economy well.

McCain has about as much knowledge about economy as a gorilla.

McCain tested on economy
Defends his credibility and experience

By Sasha Issenberg, Globe Staff | January 26, 2008

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. - In a race increasingly centered on the economy, Republican candidate John McCain yesterday found himself on the defensive over his credibility on the subject, claiming a career of experience dealing with the issue and unique abilities in "leadership, not management."

Those words were aimed at former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney, a longtime consultant and venture capitalist, who has emphasized his corporate background in recent weeks. For much of last year, Romney downplayed his business experience while trying to appeal to conservative voters largely on social and moral issues.

A Romney ad now airing in Florida highlights his experience in the private sector. "I know how America works, because I spent my life in the real economy," he boasts, in front of the Jacksonville skyline.

"Governor Romney is touting his qualities and his experience and resume as a manager; I am telling the American people - and they know it - that I am a leader," McCain said at a news conference in Fort Lauderdale. McCain was challenged at the news conference over an answer he gave in a debate the previous night when asked by moderator Tim Russert if he had said he was "not well versed on" economic issues.

"Actually, I don't know where you got that quote from," McCain replied.

McCain conceded yesterday that he had made such a remark.

"It was in the context of a conversation on my qualifications to serve: that I am proud of my record as chairman of the commerce committee, of being involved in every single major issue that affects this country," he said.

In fact, on numerous occasions over the course of the campaign, McCain has volunteered that he is unsatisfied with his lack of knowledge about aspects of economics.

"I'm going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated," McCain told the Wall Street Journal in late November.

In December he said, "The issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should," as the Globe reported on its "Political Intelligence" blog at the time.

On at least one occasion, McCain has raised the matter himself. On Nov. 10, while traveling through New Hampshire on his Straight Talk Express bus, McCain was asked what he would seek in a vice presidential candidate if nominated.

After mentioning the ability of a potential running mate to replace the president, McCain said, "You also look for people who maybe have talents you don't, or experience or knowledge you don't, as well."

"What are those qualities that you don't - that you wouldn't mind complementing?" asked David Brooks, a columnist for The New York Times.

McCain paused. "Uh, maybe I shouldn't say this, but, somebody who's really well grounded in economics," he said.

"I think I understand the fundamentals, I talk to people all the time on economics - it's obviously a vital part of America's future," McCain continued. "But I know there are some people who have literally immersed themselves on issues of economics, how Congress works on it, the tax code, that sort of thing. I would look for that kind of talent not in a vice president but in close advisers."

"They are complicated," McCain said of economic issues, "and I freely admit I am not an economist."

 

[shepherdboy]

Ha. You live in a glass bubble, not to be mean or anything. It's just reality. Ron Paul is absolutely electable, unless of course the mainstream media continues to ruin his reputation completely by ignoring his victories and simple terming him a no-chancer. This is how the election process works. Everyone watches the news, the news tell you what to do, you damn well better do it. Wouldn't want to actually THINK for yourself about what each candidate means for this country. That would be too much work.

So who is really behind the media pulling the string? For what pupose? Is it a global agenda? What is the overall agenda for such a power grab?

 

[Helios]

So who is really behind the media pulling the string? For what pupose? Is it a global agenda? What is the overall agenda for such a power grab?

I'm glad you ask. The media is owned by big business. That means you see what they want you to see, not what is really happening. Granted, what they present is often a warped and edited version of the truth. Why? For the purpose of making you believe you still have a choice. To make you believe you still have freedom. The elections are thrown, rigged. They are a fraud. And no one really cares. Global agenda? To turn everyone on Earth into hopeless slaves. And anyone who doesn't care, anyone who doesn't pay attention, is already a slave.

 

[Toro]

McCain has about as much knowledge about economy as a gorilla.

That's more than a vast majority of Republicans who believe you can cut taxes which causes revenues to rise.

At least McCain is honest and intelligent enough to not spin this fairytale to the base.

 

[Avatar4321]

McCain has about as much knowledge about economy as a gorilla.

yeah. i know. But we are talking about Romney.

 

[Helios]

yeah. i know. But we are talking about Romney.

Oh, my mistake. Got 2 threads mixed up.

About Romney: he's a sleaze bag, a total neocon big-and-up-your-ass-government type of guy. No thanks.

 

[pegwinn]

yeah, cause a guy who has been in the private sector all of his life creating jobs, financing businesses, cutting waste, etc. cant possibly run this economy well.

Actually, business folks are notorious for not doing well in government. CEO's are accustomed to getting results in a short, sweet, profitable manner from people who are on thier side and motivated by the same things. So, if he tries to run government on the business model, it may very well fail.

The Government doesn't run the economy. They get in the way of it.

I'm glad you ask. The media is owned by big business. That means you see what they want you to see, not what is really happening. Granted, what they present is often a warped and edited version of the truth. Why? For the purpose of making you believe you still have a choice. To make you believe you still have freedom. The elections are thrown, rigged. They are a fraud. And no one really cares. Global agenda? To turn everyone on Earth into hopeless slaves. And anyone who doesn't care, anyone who doesn't pay attention, is already a slave.

With respect. I don't believe that at all. I think it is simple money. Nothing more than ratings, focus groups, and the desire to make more buckazoids than the next guy.

 

[pegwinn]

One more reason to like Paul.

Anyone who puts a contract out on a terrorist without violating the constitution is someone you should seriously consider. And note the date, he did it before all the "he blames America" nonsense came out.