We Wouldn't Be In This Mess With Iran If

[Edgetho]

JFK illegally raised and trained an invasion army and abandoned them at the Bay of Pigs. Jimmy Carter played around with the Hostage situation and finally managed to get Americans killed in a raid where everything went wrong. George Bush went further, faster, took more real estate with less casualties than any other operation of it's kind. Which military adventure do lefties hate and make fun of?

Charlie Beckwith led that raid. It wasn't his fault and it wasn't the idiot Peanut's fault.

Shit happens. Too many different Branches of the Military involved. Just a clusterfuck.

 

[Pogo]

See what I mean about historical dilettantes with no clue in the world how the world works?

You think shit like this happens on the spur of the moment? As if somebody goes "AIEE! AMERICANS ARE INSTALLING BAD MOVIE ACTOR, WE MUST CAPITULATE!!"

Fucking dumbass. That negotiation went on for months, Carter was said to be "obsessed" with getting it done, and Warren Christopher did it. Go look up the Algiers Accords, Dumbass. The return happened as soon as feasible --- it would have been the previous day January 19 but Iran and Iraq were in a war then and nothing flew out of Tehran in the dark.

So whence do you get this ignoramitude impression that Reagan had something to do with it? From those TV juxtapositions of Reagan getting sworn in and the plane leaving Iran airspace, implying (but NEVER SAYING) that they had something to do with each other. They did that because drama sells, especially to those not paying attention. That's your "waaah liburrul media" at work, the way it really works.

No friggin' CLUE how the world works. Just like the Dullass Brothers.

You can talk out your ass til the cows come home, scumbag.

But here's the FACT......

The hostages were released the VERY DAY Reagan was sworn in.

NOT while the total and complete piece of fucking SHIT carter was still infecting the position of president.

Only a complete and utter fuckwad like you would think that was a coincidence.

There ARE no coincidences with those people.

I keep pointing out your aversion to historical fact, and you keep confirming that I nailed it.

Seems like a plan.

Yeah, Ray-Gun had a secret button, under the podium, ordering planes that just happened to be loaded with hostages, by pure coincidence, with a flight plan and everything, to take to the skies, because in hallucination-world that takes no planning. Yeah that's the ticket.

 

[Marion Morrison]

That's right, I'm American, bitch!

 

[IM2]

First off, if Jimmy The Peanut had never been president, Iran wouldn't have had the balls to attack and occupy our Embassy.

You can believe what you will, but that is fact. The coward Ford wasn't much better, but anybody with a pulse would have been better than that walking cadaver

Second, and more recently, we've got THE worst president in human history that completely abrogated his responsibilities as POTUS during Iran's Green revolution.

This piece of garbage goes around the MidEast talking shit about an 'Arab Spring' giving the people in that area false hope and then -- Like the cowardly dimocrap he is (and they all are) runs away when the time to act is upon him.

obama was, and still is, a craven coward. You just don't trust a craven coward. Especially a dimocrap craven coward. But.... That's just about all of them.

You ought to read this. It is not the last word on the subject, but it is somewhere to start for those few who are interested.

Why Obama Let Iran's Green Revolution Fail
The president wanted a nuclear deal, not regime change.

One of the great hypotheticals of Barack Obama's presidency involves the Iranian uprising that began on June 12, 2009, after Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was announced the winner of contested presidential elections. What if the president had done more to help the protesters when the regime appeared to be teetering?

Me: What hypotheticals? dimocraps aren't even aware of the Green Revolution. It's down the memory hole. A failing by a dimocrap scum president that shall not be talked about. These scum don't talk about anything not presented to them by the media.



It's well known he was slow to react. Obama publicly downplayed the prospect of real change at first, saying the candidates whom hundreds of thousands of Iranians were risking their lives to support did not represent fundamental change. When he finally did speak out, he couldn't bring himself to say the election was stolen: "The world is watching and inspired by their participation, regardless of what the ultimate outcome of the election was."



But Obama wasn't just reluctant to show solidarity in 2009, he feared the demonstrations would sabotage his secret outreach to Iran. In his new book, "The Iran Wars," Wall Street Journal reporter Jay Solomon uncovers new details on how far Obama went to avoid helping Iran's green movement. Behind the scenes, Obama overruled advisers who wanted to do what America had done at similar transitions from dictatorship to democracy, and signal America's support.



Solomon reports that Obama ordered the CIA to sever contacts it had with the green movement's supporters. "The Agency has contingency plans for supporting democratic uprisings anywhere in the world. This includes providing dissidents with communications, money, and in extreme cases even arms," Solomon writes. "But in this case the White House ordered it to stand down."

more at the link

This is why you just don't give power to dimocrap scum, people. They screw up everything they touch. Look what The Rapist did by not allowing our people to take out Usama bin Floatin'

Actually our problems with Iran started when we decided to get Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi to help the CIA orchestrate a coup to overthrow the Prime Minister of Iran in the 1950's. Look it up instead of repeating what Trump tells you. Operation Ajax is the name. Those like you who think everybody should take your shit and "just get overt it" refuse to understand that things just don't work like that.

 

[IM2]

The CIA performs a military coup in Iran in 1953 & sets up the SAVAK, to terrorize Iranian citizens
1953 Iranian coup d'état - Wikipedia

The US Navy shoots down an Iranian airliner in 1988 killing 290 people on board the plane
Iran Air Flight 655 - Wikipedia

The US surrounds Iran with nearly four dozen military bases
US Encircles Iran with 45 Bases, But Is Concerned With Iran's Activities in Syria - American Herald Tribune

The US & the P5+1 agree to the JCPOA: In 2018 POTUS Trump unilaterally withdraws from the agreement.
Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action - Wikipedia


Let's just say, for the sake of debate, that Iran did all of the above things to the US. Would the US have any reason to trust Iran?

It is members that post such OPs that are being dishonest about the real aggressor.

Iran does not, and never will, have ANY REASON WHATSOEVER to have any trust in the US; period.

Mosaddegh was a communist and a USSR sympathizer who STOLE the oil companies away from their rightful owners by nationalizing them and who was ILLEGALLY in power anyway. moron

Instead of being deposed, he should have been killed.

The civilian flight? Iran was told not to fly over a FUCKING COMBAT ZONE you blithering, simpering fucking IDIOT.

Especially with your IFF (identification friend or foe) turned off.

It's scumbags like you that make conversation in here impossible. You just simply talk out of your fucking ass.

It isn't that you're a pacifist, a liberal thinker or an accommodater.

You HATE America.

To non-America-Haters in here -- All you gotta do is read the post of dimocrap scum in here and you can see I'm right.

dimocrap FILTH hate America.

Doesn't matter what we do, they hate America. It's our fault.

Unless, of course, THEIR people are in charge.

Then, they can do no wrong.

What do they call people that hate their own Country unless THEY'RE in charge??

Traitors.

Sounds right to me.

Now go back to bed and cuddle up with your boyfriend, scumbag

Bullshit.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

First off, if Jimmy The Peanut had never been president, Iran wouldn't have had the balls to attack and occupy our Embassy.

You can believe what you will, but that is fact. The coward Ford wasn't much better, but anybody with a pulse would have been better than that walking cadaver

Second, and more recently, we've got THE worst president in human history that completely abrogated his responsibilities as POTUS during Iran's Green revolution.

This piece of garbage goes around the MidEast talking shit about an 'Arab Spring' giving the people in that area false hope and then -- Like the cowardly dimocrap he is (and they all are) runs away when the time to act is upon him.

obama was, and still is, a craven coward. You just don't trust a craven coward. Especially a dimocrap craven coward. But.... That's just about all of them.

You ought to read this. It is not the last word on the subject, but it is somewhere to start for those few who are interested.

Why Obama Let Iran's Green Revolution Fail
The president wanted a nuclear deal, not regime change.

One of the great hypotheticals of Barack Obama's presidency involves the Iranian uprising that began on June 12, 2009, after Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was announced the winner of contested presidential elections. What if the president had done more to help the protesters when the regime appeared to be teetering?

Me: What hypotheticals? dimocraps aren't even aware of the Green Revolution. It's down the memory hole. A failing by a dimocrap scum president that shall not be talked about. These scum don't talk about anything not presented to them by the media.



It's well known he was slow to react. Obama publicly downplayed the prospect of real change at first, saying the candidates whom hundreds of thousands of Iranians were risking their lives to support did not represent fundamental change. When he finally did speak out, he couldn't bring himself to say the election was stolen: "The world is watching and inspired by their participation, regardless of what the ultimate outcome of the election was."



But Obama wasn't just reluctant to show solidarity in 2009, he feared the demonstrations would sabotage his secret outreach to Iran. In his new book, "The Iran Wars," Wall Street Journal reporter Jay Solomon uncovers new details on how far Obama went to avoid helping Iran's green movement. Behind the scenes, Obama overruled advisers who wanted to do what America had done at similar transitions from dictatorship to democracy, and signal America's support.



Solomon reports that Obama ordered the CIA to sever contacts it had with the green movement's supporters. "The Agency has contingency plans for supporting democratic uprisings anywhere in the world. This includes providing dissidents with communications, money, and in extreme cases even arms," Solomon writes. "But in this case the White House ordered it to stand down."

more at the link

This is why you just don't give power to dimocrap scum, people. They screw up everything they touch. Look what The Rapist did by not allowing our people to take out Usama bin Floatin'

Actually our problems with Iran started when we decided to get Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi to help the CIA orchestrate a coup to overthrow the Prime Minister of Iran in the 1950's. Look it up instead of repeating what Trump tells you. Operation Ajax is the name. Those like you who think everybody should take your shit and "just get overt it" refuse to understand that things just don't work like that.

But our current problems with Iran -- and Iran's problems with all of its enemies -- are now based in the scourge of religion.

 

[miketx]

You're right, all Carter did was crash the rescue crafts into each other and get most all the troops involved killed. I'll take Trump over that any day coward. And liar, The hostages were released when Reagan was sworn in, no doubt due to his public threats the the iranian towel heads. Reagan would have crushed them. Sucks to be a liar like you.

The VERY DAY Reagan was sworn in.

Tells you something, huh?

That, dimocraps are not just scum, they're fucking cowards.

See what I mean about historical dilettantes with no clue in the world how the world works?

You think shit like this happens on the spur of the moment? As if somebody goes "AIEE! AMERICANS ARE INSTALLING BAD MOVIE ACTOR, WE MUST CAPITULATE!!"

Fucking dumbass. That negotiation went on for months, Carter was said to be "obsessed" with getting it done, and Warren Christopher did it. Go look up the Algiers Accords, Dumbass. The return happened as soon as feasible --- it would have been the previous day January 19 but Iran and Iraq were in a war then and nothing flew out of Tehran in the dark.

So whence do you get this ignoramitude impression that Reagan had something to do with it? From those TV juxtapositions of Reagan getting sworn in and the plane leaving Iran airspace, implying (but NEVER SAYING) that they had something to do with each other. They did that because drama sells, especially to those not paying attention. That's your "waaah liburrul media" at work, the way it really works.

No friggin' CLUE how the world works. Just like the Dullass Brothers.

Pure lies.

 

[jillian]

First off, if Jimmy The Peanut had never been president, Iran wouldn't have had the balls to attack and occupy our Embassy.

You can believe what you will, but that is fact. The coward Ford wasn't much better, but anybody with a pulse would have been better than that walking cadaver

Second, and more recently, we've got THE worst president in human history that completely abrogated his responsibilities as POTUS during Iran's Green revolution.

This piece of garbage goes around the MidEast talking shit about an 'Arab Spring' giving the people in that area false hope and then -- Like the cowardly dimocrap he is (and they all are) runs away when the time to act is upon him.

obama was, and still is, a craven coward. You just don't trust a craven coward. Especially a dimocrap craven coward. But.... That's just about all of them.

You ought to read this. It is not the last word on the subject, but it is somewhere to start for those few who are interested.

Why Obama Let Iran's Green Revolution Fail
The president wanted a nuclear deal, not regime change.

One of the great hypotheticals of Barack Obama's presidency involves the Iranian uprising that began on June 12, 2009, after Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was announced the winner of contested presidential elections. What if the president had done more to help the protesters when the regime appeared to be teetering?

Me: What hypotheticals? dimocraps aren't even aware of the Green Revolution. It's down the memory hole. A failing by a dimocrap scum president that shall not be talked about. These scum don't talk about anything not presented to them by the media.



It's well known he was slow to react. Obama publicly downplayed the prospect of real change at first, saying the candidates whom hundreds of thousands of Iranians were risking their lives to support did not represent fundamental change. When he finally did speak out, he couldn't bring himself to say the election was stolen: "The world is watching and inspired by their participation, regardless of what the ultimate outcome of the election was."



But Obama wasn't just reluctant to show solidarity in 2009, he feared the demonstrations would sabotage his secret outreach to Iran. In his new book, "The Iran Wars," Wall Street Journal reporter Jay Solomon uncovers new details on how far Obama went to avoid helping Iran's green movement. Behind the scenes, Obama overruled advisers who wanted to do what America had done at similar transitions from dictatorship to democracy, and signal America's support.



Solomon reports that Obama ordered the CIA to sever contacts it had with the green movement's supporters. "The Agency has contingency plans for supporting democratic uprisings anywhere in the world. This includes providing dissidents with communications, money, and in extreme cases even arms," Solomon writes. "But in this case the White House ordered it to stand down."

more at the link

This is why you just don't give power to dimocrap scum, people. They screw up everything they touch. Look what The Rapist did by not allowing our people to take out Usama bin Floatin'

Do you always go on rants about your betters?

We have a problem with Iran because dumb Donnie is an ignorant twat who pulled us out of the Iran deal because it had Barack obama’s Name in it.

Maybe if donnie wasn’t a moron

 

[Marion Morrison]

First off, if Jimmy The Peanut had never been president, Iran wouldn't have had the balls to attack and occupy our Embassy.

You can believe what you will, but that is fact. The coward Ford wasn't much better, but anybody with a pulse would have been better than that walking cadaver

Second, and more recently, we've got THE worst president in human history that completely abrogated his responsibilities as POTUS during Iran's Green revolution.

This piece of garbage goes around the MidEast talking shit about an 'Arab Spring' giving the people in that area false hope and then -- Like the cowardly dimocrap he is (and they all are) runs away when the time to act is upon him.

obama was, and still is, a craven coward. You just don't trust a craven coward. Especially a dimocrap craven coward. But.... That's just about all of them.

You ought to read this. It is not the last word on the subject, but it is somewhere to start for those few who are interested.

Why Obama Let Iran's Green Revolution Fail
The president wanted a nuclear deal, not regime change.

One of the great hypotheticals of Barack Obama's presidency involves the Iranian uprising that began on June 12, 2009, after Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was announced the winner of contested presidential elections. What if the president had done more to help the protesters when the regime appeared to be teetering?

Me: What hypotheticals? dimocraps aren't even aware of the Green Revolution. It's down the memory hole. A failing by a dimocrap scum president that shall not be talked about. These scum don't talk about anything not presented to them by the media.



It's well known he was slow to react. Obama publicly downplayed the prospect of real change at first, saying the candidates whom hundreds of thousands of Iranians were risking their lives to support did not represent fundamental change. When he finally did speak out, he couldn't bring himself to say the election was stolen: "The world is watching and inspired by their participation, regardless of what the ultimate outcome of the election was."



But Obama wasn't just reluctant to show solidarity in 2009, he feared the demonstrations would sabotage his secret outreach to Iran. In his new book, "The Iran Wars," Wall Street Journal reporter Jay Solomon uncovers new details on how far Obama went to avoid helping Iran's green movement. Behind the scenes, Obama overruled advisers who wanted to do what America had done at similar transitions from dictatorship to democracy, and signal America's support.



Solomon reports that Obama ordered the CIA to sever contacts it had with the green movement's supporters. "The Agency has contingency plans for supporting democratic uprisings anywhere in the world. This includes providing dissidents with communications, money, and in extreme cases even arms," Solomon writes. "But in this case the White House ordered it to stand down."

more at the link

This is why you just don't give power to dimocrap scum, people. They screw up everything they touch. Look what The Rapist did by not allowing our people to take out Usama bin Floatin'

Actually our problems with Iran started when we decided to get Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi to help the CIA orchestrate a coup to overthrow the Prime Minister of Iran in the 1950's. Look it up instead of repeating what Trump tells you. Operation Ajax is the name. Those like you who think everybody should take your shit and "just get overt it" refuse to understand that things just don't work like that.

Actually IM2 is kinda right in a warped ass way on this one.

Iran: The 1st retarded attempted "regime change". No others have been successful, either.

 

[Marion Morrison]

First off, if Jimmy The Peanut had never been president, Iran wouldn't have had the balls to attack and occupy our Embassy.

You can believe what you will, but that is fact. The coward Ford wasn't much better, but anybody with a pulse would have been better than that walking cadaver

Second, and more recently, we've got THE worst president in human history that completely abrogated his responsibilities as POTUS during Iran's Green revolution.

This piece of garbage goes around the MidEast talking shit about an 'Arab Spring' giving the people in that area false hope and then -- Like the cowardly dimocrap he is (and they all are) runs away when the time to act is upon him.

obama was, and still is, a craven coward. You just don't trust a craven coward. Especially a dimocrap craven coward. But.... That's just about all of them.

You ought to read this. It is not the last word on the subject, but it is somewhere to start for those few who are interested.

Why Obama Let Iran's Green Revolution Fail
The president wanted a nuclear deal, not regime change.

One of the great hypotheticals of Barack Obama's presidency involves the Iranian uprising that began on June 12, 2009, after Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was announced the winner of contested presidential elections. What if the president had done more to help the protesters when the regime appeared to be teetering?

Me: What hypotheticals? dimocraps aren't even aware of the Green Revolution. It's down the memory hole. A failing by a dimocrap scum president that shall not be talked about. These scum don't talk about anything not presented to them by the media.



It's well known he was slow to react. Obama publicly downplayed the prospect of real change at first, saying the candidates whom hundreds of thousands of Iranians were risking their lives to support did not represent fundamental change. When he finally did speak out, he couldn't bring himself to say the election was stolen: "The world is watching and inspired by their participation, regardless of what the ultimate outcome of the election was."



But Obama wasn't just reluctant to show solidarity in 2009, he feared the demonstrations would sabotage his secret outreach to Iran. In his new book, "The Iran Wars," Wall Street Journal reporter Jay Solomon uncovers new details on how far Obama went to avoid helping Iran's green movement. Behind the scenes, Obama overruled advisers who wanted to do what America had done at similar transitions from dictatorship to democracy, and signal America's support.



Solomon reports that Obama ordered the CIA to sever contacts it had with the green movement's supporters. "The Agency has contingency plans for supporting democratic uprisings anywhere in the world. This includes providing dissidents with communications, money, and in extreme cases even arms," Solomon writes. "But in this case the White House ordered it to stand down."

more at the link

This is why you just don't give power to dimocrap scum, people. They screw up everything they touch. Look what The Rapist did by not allowing our people to take out Usama bin Floatin'

Do you always go on rants about your betters?

We have a problem with Iran because dumb Donnie is an ignorant twat who pulled us out of the Iran deal because it had Barack obama’s Name in it.

Maybe if donnie wasn’t a moron

Maybe if you weren't a moron and a liar. #fakelawyerjillian.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

We have a problem with Iran because dumb Donnie is an ignorant twat who pulled us out of the Iran deal because it had Barack obama’s Name in it.

Hmm, only partially true. We had a problem with iran before the deal, and we will have a problem with iran after it expires.

 

[miketx]

You'll get seriously worked up over a feckless claim that Trump grabbed some girls' mish but, let

What a fucking stupid talkong point.

Lets review:

Trump hasn't killed a woman, so, nothing to see ,here...

Truth hurts you a lot it seems.

 

[BS Filter]

First off, if Jimmy The Peanut had never been president, Iran wouldn't have had the balls to attack and occupy our Embassy.

You can believe what you will, but that is fact. The coward Ford wasn't much better, but anybody with a pulse would have been better than that walking cadaver

Second, and more recently, we've got THE worst president in human history that completely abrogated his responsibilities as POTUS during Iran's Green revolution.

This piece of garbage goes around the MidEast talking shit about an 'Arab Spring' giving the people in that area false hope and then -- Like the cowardly dimocrap he is (and they all are) runs away when the time to act is upon him.

obama was, and still is, a craven coward. You just don't trust a craven coward. Especially a dimocrap craven coward. But.... That's just about all of them.

You ought to read this. It is not the last word on the subject, but it is somewhere to start for those few who are interested.

Why Obama Let Iran's Green Revolution Fail
The president wanted a nuclear deal, not regime change.

One of the great hypotheticals of Barack Obama's presidency involves the Iranian uprising that began on June 12, 2009, after Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was announced the winner of contested presidential elections. What if the president had done more to help the protesters when the regime appeared to be teetering?

Me: What hypotheticals? dimocraps aren't even aware of the Green Revolution. It's down the memory hole. A failing by a dimocrap scum president that shall not be talked about. These scum don't talk about anything not presented to them by the media.



It's well known he was slow to react. Obama publicly downplayed the prospect of real change at first, saying the candidates whom hundreds of thousands of Iranians were risking their lives to support did not represent fundamental change. When he finally did speak out, he couldn't bring himself to say the election was stolen: "The world is watching and inspired by their participation, regardless of what the ultimate outcome of the election was."



But Obama wasn't just reluctant to show solidarity in 2009, he feared the demonstrations would sabotage his secret outreach to Iran. In his new book, "The Iran Wars," Wall Street Journal reporter Jay Solomon uncovers new details on how far Obama went to avoid helping Iran's green movement. Behind the scenes, Obama overruled advisers who wanted to do what America had done at similar transitions from dictatorship to democracy, and signal America's support.



Solomon reports that Obama ordered the CIA to sever contacts it had with the green movement's supporters. "The Agency has contingency plans for supporting democratic uprisings anywhere in the world. This includes providing dissidents with communications, money, and in extreme cases even arms," Solomon writes. "But in this case the White House ordered it to stand down."

more at the link

This is why you just don't give power to dimocrap scum, people. They screw up everything they touch. Look what The Rapist did by not allowing our people to take out Usama bin Floatin'

Pretty convenient you have sidestepped the bullshit by the CURRENT president, though, huh?
Can't bring yourself to talk about what he's up to at the moment, can you?

The current President inherited this mess. Typical leftist, cant take responsibility.

 

[BS Filter]

First off, if Jimmy The Peanut had never been president, Iran wouldn't have had the balls to attack and occupy our Embassy.

You can believe what you will, but that is fact. The coward Ford wasn't much better, but anybody with a pulse would have been better than that walking cadaver

Second, and more recently, we've got THE worst president in human history that completely abrogated his responsibilities as POTUS during Iran's Green revolution.

This piece of garbage goes around the MidEast talking shit about an 'Arab Spring' giving the people in that area false hope and then -- Like the cowardly dimocrap he is (and they all are) runs away when the time to act is upon him.

obama was, and still is, a craven coward. You just don't trust a craven coward. Especially a dimocrap craven coward. But.... That's just about all of them.

You ought to read this. It is not the last word on the subject, but it is somewhere to start for those few who are interested.

Why Obama Let Iran's Green Revolution Fail
The president wanted a nuclear deal, not regime change.

One of the great hypotheticals of Barack Obama's presidency involves the Iranian uprising that began on June 12, 2009, after Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was announced the winner of contested presidential elections. What if the president had done more to help the protesters when the regime appeared to be teetering?

Me: What hypotheticals? dimocraps aren't even aware of the Green Revolution. It's down the memory hole. A failing by a dimocrap scum president that shall not be talked about. These scum don't talk about anything not presented to them by the media.



It's well known he was slow to react. Obama publicly downplayed the prospect of real change at first, saying the candidates whom hundreds of thousands of Iranians were risking their lives to support did not represent fundamental change. When he finally did speak out, he couldn't bring himself to say the election was stolen: "The world is watching and inspired by their participation, regardless of what the ultimate outcome of the election was."



But Obama wasn't just reluctant to show solidarity in 2009, he feared the demonstrations would sabotage his secret outreach to Iran. In his new book, "The Iran Wars," Wall Street Journal reporter Jay Solomon uncovers new details on how far Obama went to avoid helping Iran's green movement. Behind the scenes, Obama overruled advisers who wanted to do what America had done at similar transitions from dictatorship to democracy, and signal America's support.



Solomon reports that Obama ordered the CIA to sever contacts it had with the green movement's supporters. "The Agency has contingency plans for supporting democratic uprisings anywhere in the world. This includes providing dissidents with communications, money, and in extreme cases even arms," Solomon writes. "But in this case the White House ordered it to stand down."

more at the link

This is why you just don't give power to dimocrap scum, people. They screw up everything they touch. Look what The Rapist did by not allowing our people to take out Usama bin Floatin'

Don't blame Carter for the Shah of Iran and the abuse he piled on his people. Before there was Saddam Hussein in the Middle East, there was the Shah of Iran. One of the most brutal dictators who ever lived, but he was a avowed anti-communist. "Better dead than red" was the motto after WWII. The USA installed him as the leader of Iran and they kept him on the Peacock Throne for 38 years where he abused and murdered people at will.

Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi | shah of Iran

Iranians weren't "emboldened" by "Carter's weakness", they were fed up with the horror show that was the American-backed despot in control of their country. They overthrew the bum and ran him out of the country, and they attacked the embassy of the nation which forced them to accept him as their ruler.

The Iranians have good and valid reasons for hating the United States. If you were an Iranian, you would hate America too.

Iran was much better off with the Shah than with the gangsters currently in power. It wasn't the people of Iran that took over during Carter's administration. It was Muslim gangsters that took over.

 

[miketx]

See what I mean about historical dilettantes with no clue in the world how the world works?

You think shit like this happens on the spur of the moment? As if somebody goes "AIEE! AMERICANS ARE INSTALLING BAD MOVIE ACTOR, WE MUST CAPITULATE!!"

Fucking dumbass. That negotiation went on for months, Carter was said to be "obsessed" with getting it done, and Warren Christopher did it. Go look up the Algiers Accords, Dumbass. The return happened as soon as feasible --- it would have been the previous day January 19 but Iran and Iraq were in a war then and nothing flew out of Tehran in the dark.

So whence do you get this ignoramitude impression that Reagan had something to do with it? From those TV juxtapositions of Reagan getting sworn in and the plane leaving Iran airspace, implying (but NEVER SAYING) that they had something to do with each other. They did that because drama sells, especially to those not paying attention. That's your "waaah liburrul media" at work, the way it really works.

No friggin' CLUE how the world works. Just like the Dullass Brothers.

You can talk out your ass til the cows come home, scumbag.

But here's the FACT......

The hostages were released the VERY DAY Reagan was sworn in.

NOT while the total and complete piece of fucking SHIT carter was still infecting the position of president.

Only a complete and utter fuckwad like you would think that was a coincidence.

There ARE no coincidences with those people.

I keep pointing out your aversion to historical fact, and you keep confirming that I nailed it.

Seems like a plan.

Yeah, Ray-Gun had a secret button, under the podium, ordering planes that just happened to be loaded with hostages, by pure coincidence, with a flight plan and everything, to take to the skies, because in hallucination-world that takes no planning. Yeah that's the ticket.

And yet, the very day he was sworn in....

 

[Penelope]

You're right, all Carter did was crash the rescue crafts into each other and get most all the troops involved killed. I'll take Trump over that any day coward. And liar, The hostages were released when Reagan was sworn in, no doubt due to his public threats the the iranian towel heads. Reagan would have crushed them. Sucks to be a liar like you.

The VERY DAY Reagan was sworn in.

Tells you something, huh?

That, dimocraps are not just scum, they're fucking cowards.

Christopher was sworn in on February 26, 1977, as the Deputy Secretary of State and served in that position until January 20, 1981. As Deputy Secretary, he was involved in negotiating the Algiers Accords, and securing the release of 52 American hostages in Iran. He also spearheaded the Sino-American relations with the People's Republic of China, helped to win ratification of the Panama Canal treaties, and headed the first interagency group on human rights. President Jimmy Carter awarded him the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian award, on January 16, 1981.[6]
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What is that you were saying about Democrats?

 

[IM2]

First off, if Jimmy The Peanut had never been president, Iran wouldn't have had the balls to attack and occupy our Embassy.

You can believe what you will, but that is fact. The coward Ford wasn't much better, but anybody with a pulse would have been better than that walking cadaver

Second, and more recently, we've got THE worst president in human history that completely abrogated his responsibilities as POTUS during Iran's Green revolution.

This piece of garbage goes around the MidEast talking shit about an 'Arab Spring' giving the people in that area false hope and then -- Like the cowardly dimocrap he is (and they all are) runs away when the time to act is upon him.

obama was, and still is, a craven coward. You just don't trust a craven coward. Especially a dimocrap craven coward. But.... That's just about all of them.

You ought to read this. It is not the last word on the subject, but it is somewhere to start for those few who are interested.

Why Obama Let Iran's Green Revolution Fail
The president wanted a nuclear deal, not regime change.

One of the great hypotheticals of Barack Obama's presidency involves the Iranian uprising that began on June 12, 2009, after Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was announced the winner of contested presidential elections. What if the president had done more to help the protesters when the regime appeared to be teetering?

Me: What hypotheticals? dimocraps aren't even aware of the Green Revolution. It's down the memory hole. A failing by a dimocrap scum president that shall not be talked about. These scum don't talk about anything not presented to them by the media.



It's well known he was slow to react. Obama publicly downplayed the prospect of real change at first, saying the candidates whom hundreds of thousands of Iranians were risking their lives to support did not represent fundamental change. When he finally did speak out, he couldn't bring himself to say the election was stolen: "The world is watching and inspired by their participation, regardless of what the ultimate outcome of the election was."



But Obama wasn't just reluctant to show solidarity in 2009, he feared the demonstrations would sabotage his secret outreach to Iran. In his new book, "The Iran Wars," Wall Street Journal reporter Jay Solomon uncovers new details on how far Obama went to avoid helping Iran's green movement. Behind the scenes, Obama overruled advisers who wanted to do what America had done at similar transitions from dictatorship to democracy, and signal America's support.



Solomon reports that Obama ordered the CIA to sever contacts it had with the green movement's supporters. "The Agency has contingency plans for supporting democratic uprisings anywhere in the world. This includes providing dissidents with communications, money, and in extreme cases even arms," Solomon writes. "But in this case the White House ordered it to stand down."

more at the link

This is why you just don't give power to dimocrap scum, people. They screw up everything they touch. Look what The Rapist did by not allowing our people to take out Usama bin Floatin'

Actually our problems with Iran started when we decided to get Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi to help the CIA orchestrate a coup to overthrow the Prime Minister of Iran in the 1950's. Look it up instead of repeating what Trump tells you. Operation Ajax is the name. Those like you who think everybody should take your shit and "just get overt it" refuse to understand that things just don't work like that.

But our current problems with Iran -- and irans problem woth all of its enemies -- are now based in the scourge of religion.

Todays problems with Iran stem from what other besides myself have mentioned. The coup by our CIA.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Truth hurts you a lot it seems.

As if an idiot like you has any sympathy for that woman. Your numbnuts solution to her getting stoned is to drop a bomb on her head. Oh look, no more stoning for her ....dumbass...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Todays problems with Iran stem from what other besides myself have mentioned.

No. Today's problems with iran stem chiefly from the scourge of religion.

 

[OldLady]

Here's the scum that dimocrap FILTH are sticking up for --

Atefeh Sahaaleh - Alchetron, The Free Social Encyclopedia

She was 16.

She was mentally challenged.

She was raped and tortured for 3 years by an ex-IRGC

Want some more, dimocrap scum?

Especially you disgusting excuses for 'females'? Have ANY clue how Iranians treat their women? Of course you do, you just don't care.

Why?

Because you're scum.

Atefeh Rajabi, aged 16, who was hanged for being raped by an Islamist Republican guard.



Taraneh Mousavi, 19 aged, was raped and sodimized.



Neda Aghasoltan, 26, was shot death on the street of Tehran.



Dina Parnabi who was hanged, her body stripped, washed and delivered for dissection at medical school.



Few other lives, sacrificed at the alter of the Iranian Jihad savagery are: (1) 23-year-old Roya Ishraqi, a promising veterinary student, executed with her 50 year old mother, Izzad Janami Ishraqi; (2) 20-year-old Akhtar Sabit, a graduate nurse; (3) 28-year-old Mahshid Nirumand, a physics graduate from the University of Shiraz; (4) Shirin Dalvand, 25; (5) Tahirih Siyavushi, a 32 year old nurse; (6) 20-year-old Simin Sabiri; (7) Zarrin Muqimi, and (8) the oldest, 54-year-old Mrs Nosrat Yalda'I.

You people, you dimocrap FILTH are truly the scum of the Earth.

You'll get seriously worked up over a feckless claim that Trump grabbed some girls' mish but, let people actually murder them? Murder and rape them? Sodomize and dissect them?

You're nowhere to be found, hiding under your sofa.

I despise dimocraps.

I really do.

Keep on sticking up for the scumbags in Iran and, when they come for you, I hope to God I'm there to watch.

And laugh

You just blew your argument. Outrage has to be against humanity, not against just those who conveniently uphold your political views.

You'll get seriously worked up over a feckless claim that Trump grabbed some girls' mish but, let

What a fucking stupid talkong point.

Lets review:

Trump hasn't killed a woman, so, nothing to see ,here...

Here's your friends.

http://www.ishr.org/index.php?id=857

Preparation for stoning a woman in Iran

Bet you'd like to take part in that, huh??

Make you feel like a real man, huh??

dimocraps are scum

Pull that fucking pic or I'm going to whine to the mods. YOU are scum using these poor women (and the ones in your earlier posts) to bang war drums..