We Wouldn't Be In This Mess With Iran If

[Flash]

That incompetent piece of affirmative action shit Obama was just as much of a failure with foreign policy as he was with domestic policy.

He sat on hands when the Iranians were rising up against the Mullahs and later he sent the Mullah billions of dollars in cash. What in the hell was the stupid sonofabitch thinking?

 

[BS Filter]

You're right, all Carter did was crash the rescue crafts into each other and get most all the troops involved killed. I'll take Trump over that any day coward. And liar, The hostages were released when Reagan was sworn in, no doubt due to his public threats the the iranian towel heads. Reagan would have crushed them. Sucks to be a liar like you.

The VERY DAY Reagan was sworn in.

Tells you something, huh?

That, dimocraps are not just scum, they're fucking cowards.

Christopher was sworn in on February 26, 1977, as the Deputy Secretary of State and served in that position until January 20, 1981. As Deputy Secretary, he was involved in negotiating the Algiers Accords, and securing the release of 52 American hostages in Iran. He also spearheaded the Sino-American relations with the People's Republic of China, helped to win ratification of the Panama Canal treaties, and headed the first interagency group on human rights. President Jimmy Carter awarded him the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian award, on January 16, 1981.[6]
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What is that you were saying about Democrats?

Failure. Democrats are always giving each other awards and medals for nothing. Next thing you'll tell me is Obama earned his Nobel peace prize.

 

[IM2]

Todays problems with Iran stem from what other besides myself have mentioned.

Wrong. Today's problems with iran stem from the scourge of religion. Period.

I am not wrong. Religion has nothing to do with this. Period.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

He sat on hands when the Iranians were rising up against the Mullahs

As opposed to doing...what?

Now, run along to another thread and whine about how stupid obama was to help with regime change in Libya....

 

[IM2]

That incompetent piece of affirmative action shit Obama was just as much of a failure with foreign policy as he was with domestic policy.

He sat on hands when the Iranians were rising up against the Mullahs and later he sent the Mullah billions of dollars in cash. What in the hell was the stupid sonofabitch thinking?

When you get a brain please let us know.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I am not wrong. Religion has nothing to do with this. Period.

Then you are either utterly delusional or in complete denial.

 

[BS Filter]

Todays problems with Iran stem from what other besides myself have mentioned.

Wrong. Today's problems with iran stem from the scourge of religion. Period.

I am not wrong. Religion has nothing to do with this. Period.

Who is the boss in Iran?

 

[IM2]

You're right, all Carter did was crash the rescue crafts into each other and get most all the troops involved killed. I'll take Trump over that any day coward. And liar, The hostages were released when Reagan was sworn in, no doubt due to his public threats the the iranian towel heads. Reagan would have crushed them. Sucks to be a liar like you.

The VERY DAY Reagan was sworn in.

Tells you something, huh?

That, dimocraps are not just scum, they're fucking cowards.

Christopher was sworn in on February 26, 1977, as the Deputy Secretary of State and served in that position until January 20, 1981. As Deputy Secretary, he was involved in negotiating the Algiers Accords, and securing the release of 52 American hostages in Iran. He also spearheaded the Sino-American relations with the People's Republic of China, helped to win ratification of the Panama Canal treaties, and headed the first interagency group on human rights. President Jimmy Carter awarded him the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian award, on January 16, 1981.[6]
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What is that you were saying about Democrats?

Failure. Democrats are always giving each other awards and medals for nothing. Next thing you'll tell me is Obama earned his Nobel peace prize.

One thing we do know is Trump damn sure won't get one.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Who is the boss in Iran?

That would be the ayatollah, whose agenda is to bring about the end of the world, as prescribed by Islam. And we don't have to speculate that this is true. We can literally just ask him.

 

[BS Filter]

He sat on hands when the Iranians were rising up against the Mullahs

As opposed to doing...what?

Now, run along to another thread and whine about how stupid obama was to help with regime change in Libya....

Obama supported the religious gangsters over the people that rose up. Despicable.

 

[BS Filter]

You're right, all Carter did was crash the rescue crafts into each other and get most all the troops involved killed. I'll take Trump over that any day coward. And liar, The hostages were released when Reagan was sworn in, no doubt due to his public threats the the iranian towel heads. Reagan would have crushed them. Sucks to be a liar like you.

The VERY DAY Reagan was sworn in.

Tells you something, huh?

That, dimocraps are not just scum, they're fucking cowards.

Christopher was sworn in on February 26, 1977, as the Deputy Secretary of State and served in that position until January 20, 1981. As Deputy Secretary, he was involved in negotiating the Algiers Accords, and securing the release of 52 American hostages in Iran. He also spearheaded the Sino-American relations with the People's Republic of China, helped to win ratification of the Panama Canal treaties, and headed the first interagency group on human rights. President Jimmy Carter awarded him the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian award, on January 16, 1981.[6]
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What is that you were saying about Democrats?

Failure. Democrats are always giving each other awards and medals for nothing. Next thing you'll tell me is Obama earned his Nobel peace prize.

One thing we do know is Trump damn sure won't get one.

So tell us what Obungo did to earn the Nobel peace prize.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Obama supported the religious gangsters over the people that rose up

No he didn't. That's delusional.

 

[badger2]

Iranians must have known that the Carter farm was built in a region that was practically devoid of Indigenes, just like the Catholics did in Sinaloa, both as enterprises of colonization. Iran simply did an "Occupy Embassy."

 

[IM2]

Todays problems with Iran stem from what other besides myself have mentioned.

Wrong. Today's problems with iran stem from the scourge of religion. Period.

I am not wrong. Religion has nothing to do with this. Period.

Who is the boss in Iran?

Iran has hated America since the overthrow. The type of government there now is a direct rejection of the one they had under the Shah. Religion is not why they hate us.

 

[Penelope]

The smackdown is coming. The mullahs aren't going to stop provoking, because their economy is in shambles and they have nothing to lose. It's only a matter of time until they escalate again. Our President knows this and wisely held off this time, so that when he does pull the trigger nobody can accuse him of being reckless.

Well Tramp slapped sanctions on them and we all know what sanctions do a country. Riots in the streets, but that is what he is counting on.

 

[Kondor3]

First off, if Jimmy The Peanut had never been president, Iran wouldn't have had the balls to attack and occupy our Embassy.

You can believe what you will, but that is fact. The coward Ford wasn't much better, but anybody with a pulse would have been better than that walking cadaver

Second, and more recently, we've got THE worst president in human history that completely abrogated his responsibilities as POTUS during Iran's Green revolution.

This piece of garbage goes around the MidEast talking shit about an 'Arab Spring' giving the people in that area false hope and then -- Like the cowardly dimocrap he is (and they all are) runs away when the time to act is upon him.

obama was, and still is, a craven coward. You just don't trust a craven coward. Especially a dimocrap craven coward. But.... That's just about all of them.

You ought to read this. It is not the last word on the subject, but it is somewhere to start for those few who are interested.

Why Obama Let Iran's Green Revolution Fail
The president wanted a nuclear deal, not regime change.

One of the great hypotheticals of Barack Obama's presidency involves the Iranian uprising that began on June 12, 2009, after Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was announced the winner of contested presidential elections. What if the president had done more to help the protesters when the regime appeared to be teetering?

Me: What hypotheticals? dimocraps aren't even aware of the Green Revolution. It's down the memory hole. A failing by a dimocrap scum president that shall not be talked about. These scum don't talk about anything not presented to them by the media.



It's well known he was slow to react. Obama publicly downplayed the prospect of real change at first, saying the candidates whom hundreds of thousands of Iranians were risking their lives to support did not represent fundamental change. When he finally did speak out, he couldn't bring himself to say the election was stolen: "The world is watching and inspired by their participation, regardless of what the ultimate outcome of the election was."



But Obama wasn't just reluctant to show solidarity in 2009, he feared the demonstrations would sabotage his secret outreach to Iran. In his new book, "The Iran Wars," Wall Street Journal reporter Jay Solomon uncovers new details on how far Obama went to avoid helping Iran's green movement. Behind the scenes, Obama overruled advisers who wanted to do what America had done at similar transitions from dictatorship to democracy, and signal America's support.



Solomon reports that Obama ordered the CIA to sever contacts it had with the green movement's supporters. "The Agency has contingency plans for supporting democratic uprisings anywhere in the world. This includes providing dissidents with communications, money, and in extreme cases even arms," Solomon writes. "But in this case the White House ordered it to stand down."

more at the link

This is why you just don't give power to dimocrap scum, people. They screw up everything they touch. Look what The Rapist did by not allowing our people to take out Usama bin Floatin'

Don't blame Carter for the Shah of Iran and the abuse he piled on his people. Before there was Saddam Hussein in the Middle East, there was the Shah of Iran. One of the most brutal dictators who ever lived, but he was a avowed anti-communist. "Better dead than red" was the motto after WWII. The USA installed him as the leader of Iran and they kept him on the Peacock Throne for 38 years where he abused and murdered people at will.

Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi | shah of Iran

Iranians weren't "emboldened" by "Carter's weakness", they were fed up with the horror show that was the American-backed despot in control of their country. They overthrew the bum and ran him out of the country, and they attacked the embassy of the nation which forced them to accept him as their ruler.

The Iranians have good and valid reasons for hating the United States. If you were an Iranian, you would hate America too.

Typical LibTurd excuse-making for a medieval, savage, proxy-war-mongering Islamic Theocracy.

Fortunately, you are not in-charge.

Nor are you likely to be, anytime soon.

 

[Pogo]

First off, if Jimmy The Peanut had never been president, Iran wouldn't have had the balls to attack and occupy our Embassy.

You can believe what you will, but that is fact. The coward Ford wasn't much better, but anybody with a pulse would have been better than that walking cadaver

Second, and more recently, we've got THE worst president in human history that completely abrogated his responsibilities as POTUS during Iran's Green revolution.

This piece of garbage goes around the MidEast talking shit about an 'Arab Spring' giving the people in that area false hope and then -- Like the cowardly dimocrap he is (and they all are) runs away when the time to act is upon him.

obama was, and still is, a craven coward. You just don't trust a craven coward. Especially a dimocrap craven coward. But.... That's just about all of them.

You ought to read this. It is not the last word on the subject, but it is somewhere to start for those few who are interested.

Why Obama Let Iran's Green Revolution Fail
The president wanted a nuclear deal, not regime change.

One of the great hypotheticals of Barack Obama's presidency involves the Iranian uprising that began on June 12, 2009, after Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was announced the winner of contested presidential elections. What if the president had done more to help the protesters when the regime appeared to be teetering?

Me: What hypotheticals? dimocraps aren't even aware of the Green Revolution. It's down the memory hole. A failing by a dimocrap scum president that shall not be talked about. These scum don't talk about anything not presented to them by the media.



It's well known he was slow to react. Obama publicly downplayed the prospect of real change at first, saying the candidates whom hundreds of thousands of Iranians were risking their lives to support did not represent fundamental change. When he finally did speak out, he couldn't bring himself to say the election was stolen: "The world is watching and inspired by their participation, regardless of what the ultimate outcome of the election was."



But Obama wasn't just reluctant to show solidarity in 2009, he feared the demonstrations would sabotage his secret outreach to Iran. In his new book, "The Iran Wars," Wall Street Journal reporter Jay Solomon uncovers new details on how far Obama went to avoid helping Iran's green movement. Behind the scenes, Obama overruled advisers who wanted to do what America had done at similar transitions from dictatorship to democracy, and signal America's support.



Solomon reports that Obama ordered the CIA to sever contacts it had with the green movement's supporters. "The Agency has contingency plans for supporting democratic uprisings anywhere in the world. This includes providing dissidents with communications, money, and in extreme cases even arms," Solomon writes. "But in this case the White House ordered it to stand down."

more at the link

This is why you just don't give power to dimocrap scum, people. They screw up everything they touch. Look what The Rapist did by not allowing our people to take out Usama bin Floatin'

Actually our problems with Iran started when we decided to get Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi to help the CIA orchestrate a coup to overthrow the Prime Minister of Iran in the 1950's. Look it up instead of repeating what Trump tells you. Operation Ajax is the name. Those like you who think everybody should take your shit and "just get overt it" refuse to understand that things just don't work like that.

Actually IM2 is kinda right in a warped ass way on this one.

Iran: The 1st retarded attempted "regime change". No others have been successful, either.

1953, engineered by the Dulles Brothers as already mentioned, on behalf of British Petroleum. Those corporate shills who would pull the same shit a year later in Guatemala on behalf of United Fruit. And just after that got us infused into a place called "Vietnam".

This is exactly what Eisenhower was talking about when he warned of the Military-Industrial Complex. Corporate shills being handed military power for their corporatism, in their case the CIA. See also Smedley Butler's analysis of his own military career.

Those who ignore their own history are condemned to post inane hallucinations on USMB about Ronald Reagan's secret plane-launching button under his inauguration podium, because everything happens in a vacuum and there's no such thing as "context".

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Iran has hated America since the overthrow.

And the ottoman empire hated America, too. Gee, they must have seen the future....

The state of affairs today is that Iran is run by religious extremists that want to bring about the end of the world. That is a simple fact. And they ally with countries that will help them to this end (be it through arms deals, or by harboring their proxies that harrass iran's religious opponents, or by provoking countries they hope will justify the wider jihad) , while opposing countries that would stand in the way. Every decision they make can be traced to this. Every one. And you need to open your eyes to that fact.

Even their decisions made ostensibly out of self preservation are just a means to curate the religious agenda.

Gee, what a surprise that our puppet regimes were moved aside by the religious extremists...but somehow that's our fault? No. Iran simply returned to its rest state of being a religious state, run by religious nutballs. As predicted by literally everyone, when israel was formed.

 

[miketx]

You're right, all Carter did was crash the rescue crafts into each other and get most all the troops involved killed. I'll take Trump over that any day coward. And liar, The hostages were released when Reagan was sworn in, no doubt due to his public threats the the iranian towel heads. Reagan would have crushed them. Sucks to be a liar like you.

The VERY DAY Reagan was sworn in.

Tells you something, huh?

That, dimocraps are not just scum, they're fucking cowards.

Christopher was sworn in on February 26, 1977, as the Deputy Secretary of State and served in that position until January 20, 1981. As Deputy Secretary, he was involved in negotiating the Algiers Accords, and securing the release of 52 American hostages in Iran. He also spearheaded the Sino-American relations with the People's Republic of China, helped to win ratification of the Panama Canal treaties, and headed the first interagency group on human rights. President Jimmy Carter awarded him the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian award, on January 16, 1981.[6]
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What is that you were saying about Democrats?

Failure. Democrats are always giving each other awards and medals for nothing. Next thing you'll tell me is Obama earned his Nobel peace prize.

One thing we do know is Trump damn sure won't get one.

Pitiful butthurt crybaby.

 

[miketx]

Todays problems with Iran stem from what other besides myself have mentioned.

Wrong. Today's problems with iran stem from the scourge of religion. Period.

I am not wrong. Religion has nothing to do with this. Period.

You may not be wrong but you are lying.