Watch Tucker Carlson Lose It After Bill Nye Takes Him To School On Climate Change

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He answered over and over, but when it wasn't the answer BowTucker was fishing for he rudely interrupted.
can you scribe Nye's answer to why he felt skeptics should be locked up? seems he skated off on that one. you heard him say something?what was it then?
He said that is not what HE said. If you recall it was Robert Kennedy Jr who said that.
well he did say and Tucker was reading his statements from the past.
BowTucker made up the "quote" he pretended to read. Please link to the exact words pathological liar BowTucker quoted coming out of Nye's mouth.
:link:
well son, I just did. are you blind?

here is the link:

Bill Nye says that we should throw "climate deniers" in jail. | RedState
The only words in quotes are "climate deniers" all the other words do not come from Nye's mouth.
Try again.
can you scribe Nye's answer to why he felt skeptics should be locked up? seems he skated off on that one. you heard him say something?what was it then?
what's funny is Nye stated he never made that statement. Too funny
He didn't say it, it was Robert Kennedy Jr who said it, so Nye was correct and BowTucker was dead wrong as usual.
well is his quote:

"YouTube channel, cfact, sat down with Nye and at some point Marc Morano asked the celebrity in a lab coat if the idea being passed around by climate change activists to throw skeptics in jail isn’t too extreme.

“We’ll see what happens, was it appropriate to jail the guys at Enron?” responded Nye. “Was it appropriate to jail people from the cigarette industry who insisted that this addictive product was not addictive?”"

Dude there is but one conclusion to draw from those responses. and jailing deniers is that conclusion. And is what Carlson was quoting.
And none of those quotes match the "quote" out of BowTucker's mouth.
I will remind you that NO cigarette execs were jailed!!!
it's what carlson read. sorry. Nye said he never said it. derp
Proving BowTucker is a LIAR!
 
can you scribe Nye's answer to why he felt skeptics should be locked up? seems he skated off on that one. you heard him say something?what was it then?
He said that is not what HE said. If you recall it was Robert Kennedy Jr who said that.
well he did say and Tucker was reading his statements from the past.
BowTucker made up the "quote" he pretended to read. Please link to the exact words pathological liar BowTucker quoted coming out of Nye's mouth.
:link:
well son, I just did. are you blind?

here is the link:

Bill Nye says that we should throw "climate deniers" in jail. | RedState
The only words in quotes are "climate deniers" all the other words do not come from Nye's mouth.
Try again.
what's funny is Nye stated he never made that statement. Too funny
He didn't say it, it was Robert Kennedy Jr who said it, so Nye was correct and BowTucker was dead wrong as usual.
well is his quote:

"YouTube channel, cfact, sat down with Nye and at some point Marc Morano asked the celebrity in a lab coat if the idea being passed around by climate change activists to throw skeptics in jail isn’t too extreme.

“We’ll see what happens, was it appropriate to jail the guys at Enron?” responded Nye. “Was it appropriate to jail people from the cigarette industry who insisted that this addictive product was not addictive?”"

Dude there is but one conclusion to draw from those responses. and jailing deniers is that conclusion. And is what Carlson was quoting.
And none of those quotes match the "quote" out of BowTucker's mouth.
I will remind you that NO cigarette execs were jailed!!!
it's what carlson read. sorry. Nye said he never said it. derp
Proving BowTucker is a LIAR!
so you're calling the quote an error?
 
He said that is not what HE said. If you recall it was Robert Kennedy Jr who said that.
well he did say and Tucker was reading his statements from the past.
BowTucker made up the "quote" he pretended to read. Please link to the exact words pathological liar BowTucker quoted coming out of Nye's mouth.
:link:
well son, I just did. are you blind?

here is the link:

Bill Nye says that we should throw "climate deniers" in jail. | RedState
The only words in quotes are "climate deniers" all the other words do not come from Nye's mouth.
Try again.
He didn't say it, it was Robert Kennedy Jr who said it, so Nye was correct and BowTucker was dead wrong as usual.
well is his quote:

"YouTube channel, cfact, sat down with Nye and at some point Marc Morano asked the celebrity in a lab coat if the idea being passed around by climate change activists to throw skeptics in jail isn’t too extreme.

“We’ll see what happens, was it appropriate to jail the guys at Enron?” responded Nye. “Was it appropriate to jail people from the cigarette industry who insisted that this addictive product was not addictive?”"

Dude there is but one conclusion to draw from those responses. and jailing deniers is that conclusion. And is what Carlson was quoting.
And none of those quotes match the "quote" out of BowTucker's mouth.
I will remind you that NO cigarette execs were jailed!!!
it's what carlson read. sorry. Nye said he never said it. derp
Proving BowTucker is a LIAR!
so you're calling the quote an error?
Nope! We're calling you a delusional retard for continuing to twist and distort the facts to serve your ideological obsessions, JustCrazy.
 
He said that is not what HE said. If you recall it was Robert Kennedy Jr who said that.
well he did say and Tucker was reading his statements from the past.
BowTucker made up the "quote" he pretended to read. Please link to the exact words pathological liar BowTucker quoted coming out of Nye's mouth.
:link:
well son, I just did. are you blind?

here is the link:

Bill Nye says that we should throw "climate deniers" in jail. | RedState
The only words in quotes are "climate deniers" all the other words do not come from Nye's mouth.
Try again.
He didn't say it, it was Robert Kennedy Jr who said it, so Nye was correct and BowTucker was dead wrong as usual.
well is his quote:

"YouTube channel, cfact, sat down with Nye and at some point Marc Morano asked the celebrity in a lab coat if the idea being passed around by climate change activists to throw skeptics in jail isn’t too extreme.

“We’ll see what happens, was it appropriate to jail the guys at Enron?” responded Nye. “Was it appropriate to jail people from the cigarette industry who insisted that this addictive product was not addictive?”"

Dude there is but one conclusion to draw from those responses. and jailing deniers is that conclusion. And is what Carlson was quoting.
And none of those quotes match the "quote" out of BowTucker's mouth.
I will remind you that NO cigarette execs were jailed!!!
it's what carlson read. sorry. Nye said he never said it. derp
Proving BowTucker is a LIAR!
so you're calling the quote an error?
I'm calling BowTucker's quote a lie he made up and put in Nye's mouth, which is why you can't show a Nye quote with the exact words BowTucker pretended to read in the video.
 
He said that is not what HE said. If you recall it was Robert Kennedy Jr who said that.
well he did say and Tucker was reading his statements from the past.
BowTucker made up the "quote" he pretended to read. Please link to the exact words pathological liar BowTucker quoted coming out of Nye's mouth.
:link:
well son, I just did. are you blind?

here is the link:

Bill Nye says that we should throw "climate deniers" in jail. | RedState
The only words in quotes are "climate deniers" all the other words do not come from Nye's mouth.
Try again.
He didn't say it, it was Robert Kennedy Jr who said it, so Nye was correct and BowTucker was dead wrong as usual.
well is his quote:

"YouTube channel, cfact, sat down with Nye and at some point Marc Morano asked the celebrity in a lab coat if the idea being passed around by climate change activists to throw skeptics in jail isn’t too extreme.

“We’ll see what happens, was it appropriate to jail the guys at Enron?” responded Nye. “Was it appropriate to jail people from the cigarette industry who insisted that this addictive product was not addictive?”"

Dude there is but one conclusion to draw from those responses. and jailing deniers is that conclusion. And is what Carlson was quoting.
And none of those quotes match the "quote" out of BowTucker's mouth.
I will remind you that NO cigarette execs were jailed!!!
it's what carlson read. sorry. Nye said he never said it. derp
Proving BowTucker is a LIAR!
so you're calling the quote an error?
Nope! We're calling you a delusional retard for continuing to twist and distort the facts to serve your ideological obsessions, JustCrazy.
did i present the link with the quote? what is it I'm delusional about? rolling tundra
 
Only in your head, ed.
The video refutes what you say.
Lol, you can't refute a thing I said. Got it.
Just like BowTucker, repeating your BS will not make it any less BS.
Wow, perceptions surely are different. He never answered the question, even one time answering a question with a question. Unless you believe he was serious that global climate change is 100% man made...
Everything Brent Bozo's MRC touches is fake. And I saw the video, Nye answered BowTucker's question repeatedly in spite of his rude talking over him.
Guess you missed the video. Newsbusters did not make a fake video.
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We are in an interglacial period. The estimates are, we are about 1,800 years from the halfway point of a Milankovitch cycle. Our ice volumes are relatively stable, we lose and gain ice each year at the two poles. Overall, we have been running a slight deficit... we're losing a little more than we're gaining...

Yeah, you're not listening. We're losing ice at an accelerating pace while...

"There is no detectable "natural" forcing [Milankovitch or otherwise] that accounts for the current warming trend, and the loss of ice volume, retreating glaciers, etc."​

We're not losing ice at an accelerating pace. That's a lie. At one pole we are losing ice, at the other poll we're gaining ice. Cumulatively, we're losing a little ice but... we're in an interglacial period and that's what ice does.

There is a problem with the "current warming trend" ...they call it The Pause. The Warmers try to explain this embarrassing phenomenon by completely reworking how we measure global temperatures.

But again.... we are in an interglacial period.. it is expected that temperatures are going to rise unless we're heading into another glaciation period, which by estimates is at least another millennium away.
 
We're not losing ice at an accelerating pace. That's a lie. At one pole we are losing ice, at the other poll we're gaining ice.

You know nothing:

CryoSat finds sharp increase in Antarctica’s ice losses

19 May 2014

Three years of observations from ESA’s CryoSat satellite show that the Antarctic ice sheet is now losing 159 billion tonnes of ice each year – twice as much as when it was last surveyed.

The polar ice sheets are a major contributor to the rise in global sea levels, and these newly measured losses from Antarctica alone are enough to raise global sea levels by 0.45 mm each year.

These latest findings by a team of scientists from the UK’s Centre for Polar Observation and Modelling show that the pattern of imbalance continues to be dominated by glaciers thinning in the Amundsen Sea sector of West Antarctica.
[...]


Ice loss and sea level rise

Ice_loss_and_sea_level_rise_node_full_image_2.jpg


Cumulative changes in the mass of the Antarctic ice sheet (pink) and the Greenland ice sheet (blue) from 1992 to 2011 determined from a reconciliation of measurements acquired by satellite radar altimetry, the input-output method, satellite gravimetry and satellite laser altimetry. Also shown is the equivalent global sea level contribution, calculated assuming that 360 gigatonnes of ice corresponds to 1 mm of sea level rise.​

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We are in an interglacial period. The estimates are, we are about 1,800 years from the halfway point of a Milankovitch cycle. Our ice volumes are relatively stable, we lose and gain ice each year at the two poles. Overall, we have been running a slight deficit... we're losing a little more than we're gaining...

Yeah, you're not listening. We're losing ice at an accelerating pace while...

"There is no detectable "natural" forcing [Milankovitch or otherwise] that accounts for the current warming trend, and the loss of ice volume, retreating glaciers, etc."​

We're not losing ice at an accelerating pace. That's a lie. At one pole we are losing ice, at the other poll we're gaining ice. Cumulatively, we're losing a little ice but... we're in an interglacial period and that's what ice does.

There is a problem with the "current warming trend" ...they call it The Pause. The Warmers try to explain this embarrassing phenomenon by completely reworking how we measure global temperatures.

But again.... we are in an interglacial period.. it is expected that temperatures are going to rise unless we're heading into another glaciation period, which by estimates is at least another millennium away.

More fraudulent fallacious bullcrap from a denier cult troll who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.

The world is indeed losing ice at an accelerating rate, no matter what BS you've stupidly swallowed.

In the real world....

Greenland ice sheet is melting at an accelerating rate

Polar Ice Loss Accelerating, Study Finds - Live Science

Global ice melt is accelerating

NASA - Is Antarctica Melting?
Gravity data collected from space using NASA's Grace satellite show that Antarctica has been losing more than a hundred cubic kilometers (24 cubic miles) of ice each year since 2002. The latest data reveal that Antarctica is losing ice at an accelerating rate, too.


Climate Change Facts: Antarctica Is Losing Ice | Weather Underground

Polar ice sheets melting faster than ever | DW Environment | DW.COM | 04.02.2013 - Deutsche Welle

Greenland Just Lost a Trillion Tons of Ice and Nobody Noticed

Melting of Earth's Ice Cover Reaches New High | Worldwatch Institute
 
We're not losing ice at an accelerating pace. That's a lie. At one pole we are losing ice, at the other poll we're gaining ice.

You know nothing:

CryoSat finds sharp increase in Antarctica’s ice losses

19 May 2014

Three years of observations from ESA’s CryoSat satellite show that the Antarctic ice sheet is now losing 159 billion tonnes of ice each year – twice as much as when it was last surveyed.

The polar ice sheets are a major contributor to the rise in global sea levels, and these newly measured losses from Antarctica alone are enough to raise global sea levels by 0.45 mm each year.

These latest findings by a team of scientists from the UK’s Centre for Polar Observation and Modelling show that the pattern of imbalance continues to be dominated by glaciers thinning in the Amundsen Sea sector of West Antarctica.
[...]


Ice loss and sea level rise

Ice_loss_and_sea_level_rise_node_full_image_2.jpg


Cumulative changes in the mass of the Antarctic ice sheet (pink) and the Greenland ice sheet (blue) from 1992 to 2011 determined from a reconciliation of measurements acquired by satellite radar altimetry, the input-output method, satellite gravimetry and satellite laser altimetry. Also shown is the equivalent global sea level contribution, calculated assuming that 360 gigatonnes of ice corresponds to 1 mm of sea level rise.​

End of.

From 2000-2014 it was growing. There has been a decline this year due to warm air from the north which they can't explain. But just like all your alarmist claims, you ignore it when the ice shelves are growing and you run around with your hair on fire when it's not. You mislead people by taking an extreme and presenting it as something happening every year. If the data doesn't support you, we have to change the way we collect the data. If the measurements contradict you, we have to change how we measure.

Now... Really, I have no idea what your personal motives are. Could be that your livelihood depends on government grants... could be that you're a socialist who wants to bring down the great capitalist beast... could be you're a gullible idiot who thinks he is saving the planet... no one really knows. The fact is, nothing you are ever going to be able to do will change the inevitable. You won't stop the world from industrialization. You won't stop everyone from burning fossil fuels. And IF man's activities are contributing to global climate change, that will continue as well. You're pissing in the wind.
 
We're not losing ice at an accelerating pace. That's a lie. At one pole we are losing ice, at the other poll we're gaining ice.

You know nothing:
CryoSat finds sharp increase in Antarctica’s ice losses
19 May 2014
Three years of observations from ESA’s CryoSat satellite show that the Antarctic ice sheet is now losing 159 billion tonnes of ice each year – twice as much as when it was last surveyed.

The polar ice sheets are a major contributor to the rise in global sea levels, and these newly measured losses from Antarctica alone are enough to raise global sea levels by 0.45 mm each year.

These latest findings by a team of scientists from the UK’s Centre for Polar Observation and Modelling show that the pattern of imbalance continues to be dominated by glaciers thinning in the Amundsen Sea sector of West Antarctica.

Ice loss and sea level rise

Ice_loss_and_sea_level_rise_node_full_image_2.jpg


Cumulative changes in the mass of the Antarctic ice sheet (pink) and the Greenland ice sheet (blue) from 1992 to 2011 determined from a reconciliation of measurements acquired by satellite radar altimetry, the input-output method, satellite gravimetry and satellite laser altimetry. Also shown is the equivalent global sea level contribution, calculated assuming that 360 gigatonnes of ice corresponds to 1 mm of sea level rise.​

End of.

From 2000-2014 it was growing.
"It" what, moron? Antarctica? WRONG! As usual.



But just like all your alarmist claims, you ignore it when the ice shelves are growing...
The ice shelves ARE NOT GROWING, you poor delusional retard.

In the real world....

West Antarctic ice shelf breaking up from the inside out | News - The Ohio State University
Nov 28, 2016
Antarctica Ice Shelf Is Breaking from the Inside Out - Scientific American
Nov 29, 2016

NASA Study Shows Antarctica's Larsen B Ice Shelf Nearing Its Final Act | NASA

The crack in an Antarctic ice shelf just grew by 11 miles. A break could be imminent. - Chicago Tribune
Jan 7, 2017

As Antarctic ice shelves shrink, 'shelfwatchers' await major break-off - CSMonitor.com - The Christian Science Monitor
Feb 9, 2017

Scientists Are Watching in Horror as Ice Collapses - Latest Stories - National Geographic
2016/04

Quick Facts on Ice Shelves
National Snow and Ice Data Center

What is an ice shelf?
Ice shelves are permanent floating sheets of ice that connect to a landmass.

Most of the world's ice shelves hug the coast of Antarctica. However, ice shelves can also form wherever ice flows from land into cold ocean waters, including some glaciers in the Northern Hemisphere. The northern coast of Canada's Ellesmere Island is home to several well-known ice shelves, among them the Markham and the Ward Hunt ice shelves.

How do ice shelves form?
Ice from enormous ice sheets slowly oozes into the sea through glaciers and ice streams. If the ocean is cold enough, that newly arrived ice doesn't melt right away. Instead it may float on the surface and grow larger as glacial ice behind it continues to flow into the sea. Along protected coastlines, the resulting ice shelves can survive for thousands of years, bolstered by the rock of peninsulas and islands. Ice shelves grow when they gain ice from land, and occasionally shrink when icebergs calve off their edges. This give and take helps them maintain a dynamic stability.

Why are ice shelves important?
Because ice shelves already float in the ocean, they do not contribute directly to sea level rise when they break up. However, ice shelf collapse could contribute to sea level rise indirectly. Ice streams and glaciers constantly push on ice shelves, but the shelves eventually come up against coastal features such as islands and peninsulas, building pressure that slows their movement into the ocean. If an ice shelf collapses, the backpressure disappears. The glaciers that fed into the ice shelf speed up, flowing more quickly out to sea. Glaciers and ice sheets rest on land, so once they flow into the ocean, they contribute to sea level rise.


The Ross Ice Shelf, at the Bay of Whales, is the southern-most navigable point on Earth. Credit: Michael Van Woert, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Association (NOAA) NESDIS, ORA

Research suggests that glaciers behind ice shelves may accelerate by as much as five times following a rapid ice shelf retreat. To read about a recent study on such glacial acceleration, see the 2004 news release, Antarctic Glaciers Accelerate in Wake of Ice Shelf Breakup.

What's happening to ice shelves?
In the last thirty years, scientists have observed a series of unusual ice shelf collapses on the Antarctic Peninsula. Although it is not unusual for ice shelves to calve large icebergs, that process normally takes months to years, as cracks slowly form in the ice. Following a calving, ice shelves generally recover over a period of decades.

In recent years, ice shelves on the Antarctic Peninsula and along the northern coast of Canada have experienced rapid disintegration. In March 2008, the Wilkins Ice Shelf in Antarctica retreated by more than 400 square kilometers (160 square miles). Later that summer, several ice shelves along Ellesmere Island in Northern Canada broke up in a matter of days.

In contrast, the collapses in previous years happened over a period of weeks, leaving a soup of chunky ice and small icebergs. The remaining ice shelves retreated by as much as 90 percent, and several have experienced repeated collapses. For more information on recent collapses, see Wilkins Ice Shelf Breakup Events and Larsen Ice Shelf Breakup Events. To learn more about the current state of ice shelves, see State of the Cryosphere: Ice Shelves.


This satellite image shows floating chunks of ice from the 2008 Wilkins Ice Shelf collapse. Credit: Cheng-Chien Liu, National Cheng-Kung University, and Dr. An-Ming Wu, National Space Organization, Taiwan

What causes an ice shelf to collapse?
Scientists think that the recent ice shelf collapses in both the Arctic and Antarctica are related to climate change. Most of the rapidly retreating ice shelves in Antarctica are located on the Antarctic Peninsula. The Antarctic Peninsula juts north towards South America, into warmer waters. The peninsula has warmed 2.5 degrees Celsius (4.5 degrees Fahrenheit) since 1950, making it one of the fastest-warming places on Earth.

Scientists attributed rapid ice shelf collapse to warmer air and water temperatures, as well as increased melt on the ice shelf surface. Retreating sea ice may also play a role.

Warm air melts the ice shelf surface, forming ponds of meltwater. As the water trickles down through small cracks in the ice shelf, it deepens, erodes, and expands those cracks. In a separate process, warmer water melts the ice shelf from below, thinning it and making it more vulnerable to cracking. Scientists have observed both processes in all the ice shelves that have rapidly retreated in recent years.

However, warm temperatures alone do not fully explain rapid ice shelf collapse. Recent research suggests that waning sea ice surrounding the Antarctic Peninsula and the Arctic ice shelves in Canada might also have contributed to the recent collapses. Sea ice provides a layer of protection between an ice shelf and the surrounding ocean, muting the power of large waves and storms. As sea ice decreases, more waves buffet the ice shelves. The largest waves can buckle and bend an ice shelf, increasing instability and possibly contributing to a collapse.



The Larsen Ice Shelf, on the Antarctic Peninsula, has experienced an unprecedented series of collapses. Credit: Ted Scambos, NSIDC

To learn more about research on ice shelf breakup, see the IceTrek project Web site.

How can I learn more?
NSIDC Resources
State of the Cryosphere: Ice Shelves. Find more in-depth information about ice shelves.
Larsen Ice Shelf Breakup Events. Browse news releases and images related to breakups on the Larsen Ice Shelf.
Wilkins Ice Shelf Breakup Events. Read news releases and find images related to breakups on the Wilkins Ice Shelf.
 
Yeah, by a negative 159 billion tonnes of ice each year.

There goes another know-nothing denialist troll.

No... negative 159 billion tons ONE year. A cumulative gain over the last 20 years. You want to dismiss the previous years where we gained sea ice and focus like a laser on the most recent year where you show a loss and pretend that has been the norm every year. That's just plain dishonest but it's what you've all become known for in this debate.

You're just dishonest people pushing an agenda. No one really knows why... maybe you think it's cool to be a Warmer? Maybe you think that makes you trendy and hip? Maybe you rely on government grants and funding somehow? Maybe you believe you're virtuously saving the world? Maybe you're a Marxist-Socialist piece of shit who simply wants to punish capitalists any way you can and deceiving the public is a great way to go about that? I don't know your motivations, I really don't... but regardless, there's nothing man can do to remedy the problem you are presenting. Even IF you are 100% correct (which you're not), there is no plan or scheme in which you can accomplish what needs to be accomplished. It's ALL a ruse.
 
We're not losing ice at an accelerating pace. That's a lie. At one pole we are losing ice, at the other poll we're gaining ice.

You know nothing:
CryoSat finds sharp increase in Antarctica’s ice losses
19 May 2014
Three years of observations from ESA’s CryoSat satellite show that the Antarctic ice sheet is now losing 159 billion tonnes of ice each year – twice as much as when it was last surveyed.

The polar ice sheets are a major contributor to the rise in global sea levels, and these newly measured losses from Antarctica alone are enough to raise global sea levels by 0.45 mm each year.

These latest findings by a team of scientists from the UK’s Centre for Polar Observation and Modelling show that the pattern of imbalance continues to be dominated by glaciers thinning in the Amundsen Sea sector of West Antarctica.

Ice loss and sea level rise

Ice_loss_and_sea_level_rise_node_full_image_2.jpg


Cumulative changes in the mass of the Antarctic ice sheet (pink) and the Greenland ice sheet (blue) from 1992 to 2011 determined from a reconciliation of measurements acquired by satellite radar altimetry, the input-output method, satellite gravimetry and satellite laser altimetry. Also shown is the equivalent global sea level contribution, calculated assuming that 360 gigatonnes of ice corresponds to 1 mm of sea level rise.​

End of.

From 2000-2014 it was growing.
"It" what, moron? Antarctica? WRONG! As usual.



But just like all your alarmist claims, you ignore it when the ice shelves are growing...
The ice shelves ARE NOT GROWING, you poor delusional retard.

In the real world....

West Antarctic ice shelf breaking up from the inside out | News - The Ohio State University
Nov 28, 2016
Antarctica Ice Shelf Is Breaking from the Inside Out - Scientific American
Nov 29, 2016

NASA Study Shows Antarctica's Larsen B Ice Shelf Nearing Its Final Act | NASA

The crack in an Antarctic ice shelf just grew by 11 miles. A break could be imminent. - Chicago Tribune
Jan 7, 2017

As Antarctic ice shelves shrink, 'shelfwatchers' await major break-off - CSMonitor.com - The Christian Science Monitor
Feb 9, 2017

Scientists Are Watching in Horror as Ice Collapses - Latest Stories - National Geographic
2016/04

Quick Facts on Ice Shelves
National Snow and Ice Data Center

What is an ice shelf?
Ice shelves are permanent floating sheets of ice that connect to a landmass.

Most of the world's ice shelves hug the coast of Antarctica. However, ice shelves can also form wherever ice flows from land into cold ocean waters, including some glaciers in the Northern Hemisphere. The northern coast of Canada's Ellesmere Island is home to several well-known ice shelves, among them the Markham and the Ward Hunt ice shelves.

How do ice shelves form?
Ice from enormous ice sheets slowly oozes into the sea through glaciers and ice streams. If the ocean is cold enough, that newly arrived ice doesn't melt right away. Instead it may float on the surface and grow larger as glacial ice behind it continues to flow into the sea. Along protected coastlines, the resulting ice shelves can survive for thousands of years, bolstered by the rock of peninsulas and islands. Ice shelves grow when they gain ice from land, and occasionally shrink when icebergs calve off their edges. This give and take helps them maintain a dynamic stability.

Why are ice shelves important?
Because ice shelves already float in the ocean, they do not contribute directly to sea level rise when they break up. However, ice shelf collapse could contribute to sea level rise indirectly. Ice streams and glaciers constantly push on ice shelves, but the shelves eventually come up against coastal features such as islands and peninsulas, building pressure that slows their movement into the ocean. If an ice shelf collapses, the backpressure disappears. The glaciers that fed into the ice shelf speed up, flowing more quickly out to sea. Glaciers and ice sheets rest on land, so once they flow into the ocean, they contribute to sea level rise.


The Ross Ice Shelf, at the Bay of Whales, is the southern-most navigable point on Earth. Credit: Michael Van Woert, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Association (NOAA) NESDIS, ORA

Research suggests that glaciers behind ice shelves may accelerate by as much as five times following a rapid ice shelf retreat. To read about a recent study on such glacial acceleration, see the 2004 news release, Antarctic Glaciers Accelerate in Wake of Ice Shelf Breakup.

What's happening to ice shelves?
In the last thirty years, scientists have observed a series of unusual ice shelf collapses on the Antarctic Peninsula. Although it is not unusual for ice shelves to calve large icebergs, that process normally takes months to years, as cracks slowly form in the ice. Following a calving, ice shelves generally recover over a period of decades.

In recent years, ice shelves on the Antarctic Peninsula and along the northern coast of Canada have experienced rapid disintegration. In March 2008, the Wilkins Ice Shelf in Antarctica retreated by more than 400 square kilometers (160 square miles). Later that summer, several ice shelves along Ellesmere Island in Northern Canada broke up in a matter of days.

In contrast, the collapses in previous years happened over a period of weeks, leaving a soup of chunky ice and small icebergs. The remaining ice shelves retreated by as much as 90 percent, and several have experienced repeated collapses. For more information on recent collapses, see Wilkins Ice Shelf Breakup Events and Larsen Ice Shelf Breakup Events. To learn more about the current state of ice shelves, see State of the Cryosphere: Ice Shelves.


This satellite image shows floating chunks of ice from the 2008 Wilkins Ice Shelf collapse. Credit: Cheng-Chien Liu, National Cheng-Kung University, and Dr. An-Ming Wu, National Space Organization, Taiwan

What causes an ice shelf to collapse?
Scientists think that the recent ice shelf collapses in both the Arctic and Antarctica are related to climate change. Most of the rapidly retreating ice shelves in Antarctica are located on the Antarctic Peninsula. The Antarctic Peninsula juts north towards South America, into warmer waters. The peninsula has warmed 2.5 degrees Celsius (4.5 degrees Fahrenheit) since 1950, making it one of the fastest-warming places on Earth.

Scientists attributed rapid ice shelf collapse to warmer air and water temperatures, as well as increased melt on the ice shelf surface. Retreating sea ice may also play a role.

Warm air melts the ice shelf surface, forming ponds of meltwater. As the water trickles down through small cracks in the ice shelf, it deepens, erodes, and expands those cracks. In a separate process, warmer water melts the ice shelf from below, thinning it and making it more vulnerable to cracking. Scientists have observed both processes in all the ice shelves that have rapidly retreated in recent years.

However, warm temperatures alone do not fully explain rapid ice shelf collapse. Recent research suggests that waning sea ice surrounding the Antarctic Peninsula and the Arctic ice shelves in Canada might also have contributed to the recent collapses. Sea ice provides a layer of protection between an ice shelf and the surrounding ocean, muting the power of large waves and storms. As sea ice decreases, more waves buffet the ice shelves. The largest waves can buckle and bend an ice shelf, increasing instability and possibly contributing to a collapse.


The Larsen Ice Shelf, on the Antarctic Peninsula, has experienced an unprecedented series of collapses. Credit: Ted Scambos, NSIDC

To learn more about research on ice shelf breakup, see the IceTrek project Web site.

How can I learn more?
NSIDC Resources
State of the Cryosphere: Ice Shelves. Find more in-depth information about ice shelves.
Larsen Ice Shelf Breakup Events. Browse news releases and images related to breakups on the Larsen Ice Shelf.
Wilkins Ice Shelf Breakup Events. Read news releases and find images related to breakups on the Wilkins Ice Shelf.

AGAIN.... Literally hundreds of billions of dollars have been devoted to promotion of this MYTH! Hundreds or thousands of websites full of countless "articles" and "studies" and "graphics" and "charts" all designed and intended to promote the narrative. It is probably the largest propaganda effort in the history of mankind.

You repeatedly posting this nonsense is NOT making your argument. I'm all in favor of having a civil conversation with anyone over actual science in this debate. What I repeatedly encounter are people like you who want to flood the threads with canned propaganda from one of your biased sources. You can't actually discuss the science. You rely on propaganda others have fed you. Then, you make an appeal to popularity. That's not science.
 
We're not losing ice at an accelerating pace. That's a lie. At one pole we are losing ice, at the other poll we're gaining ice.

You know nothing:
CryoSat finds sharp increase in Antarctica’s ice losses
19 May 2014
Three years of observations from ESA’s CryoSat satellite show that the Antarctic ice sheet is now losing 159 billion tonnes of ice each year – twice as much as when it was last surveyed.

The polar ice sheets are a major contributor to the rise in global sea levels, and these newly measured losses from Antarctica alone are enough to raise global sea levels by 0.45 mm each year.

These latest findings by a team of scientists from the UK’s Centre for Polar Observation and Modelling show that the pattern of imbalance continues to be dominated by glaciers thinning in the Amundsen Sea sector of West Antarctica.

Ice loss and sea level rise

Ice_loss_and_sea_level_rise_node_full_image_2.jpg


Cumulative changes in the mass of the Antarctic ice sheet (pink) and the Greenland ice sheet (blue) from 1992 to 2011 determined from a reconciliation of measurements acquired by satellite radar altimetry, the input-output method, satellite gravimetry and satellite laser altimetry. Also shown is the equivalent global sea level contribution, calculated assuming that 360 gigatonnes of ice corresponds to 1 mm of sea level rise.​

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From 2000-2014 it was growing.
"It" what, moron? Antarctica? WRONG! As usual.



But just like all your alarmist claims, you ignore it when the ice shelves are growing...
The ice shelves ARE NOT GROWING, you poor delusional retard.

In the real world....

West Antarctic ice shelf breaking up from the inside out | News - The Ohio State University
Nov 28, 2016
Antarctica Ice Shelf Is Breaking from the Inside Out - Scientific American
Nov 29, 2016

NASA Study Shows Antarctica's Larsen B Ice Shelf Nearing Its Final Act | NASA

The crack in an Antarctic ice shelf just grew by 11 miles. A break could be imminent. - Chicago Tribune
Jan 7, 2017

As Antarctic ice shelves shrink, 'shelfwatchers' await major break-off - CSMonitor.com - The Christian Science Monitor
Feb 9, 2017

Scientists Are Watching in Horror as Ice Collapses - Latest Stories - National Geographic
2016/04

Quick Facts on Ice Shelves
National Snow and Ice Data Center

What is an ice shelf?
Ice shelves are permanent floating sheets of ice that connect to a landmass.

Most of the world's ice shelves hug the coast of Antarctica. However, ice shelves can also form wherever ice flows from land into cold ocean waters, including some glaciers in the Northern Hemisphere. The northern coast of Canada's Ellesmere Island is home to several well-known ice shelves, among them the Markham and the Ward Hunt ice shelves.

How do ice shelves form?
Ice from enormous ice sheets slowly oozes into the sea through glaciers and ice streams. If the ocean is cold enough, that newly arrived ice doesn't melt right away. Instead it may float on the surface and grow larger as glacial ice behind it continues to flow into the sea. Along protected coastlines, the resulting ice shelves can survive for thousands of years, bolstered by the rock of peninsulas and islands. Ice shelves grow when they gain ice from land, and occasionally shrink when icebergs calve off their edges. This give and take helps them maintain a dynamic stability.

Why are ice shelves important?
Because ice shelves already float in the ocean, they do not contribute directly to sea level rise when they break up. However, ice shelf collapse could contribute to sea level rise indirectly. Ice streams and glaciers constantly push on ice shelves, but the shelves eventually come up against coastal features such as islands and peninsulas, building pressure that slows their movement into the ocean. If an ice shelf collapses, the backpressure disappears. The glaciers that fed into the ice shelf speed up, flowing more quickly out to sea. Glaciers and ice sheets rest on land, so once they flow into the ocean, they contribute to sea level rise.


The Ross Ice Shelf, at the Bay of Whales, is the southern-most navigable point on Earth. Credit: Michael Van Woert, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Association (NOAA) NESDIS, ORA

Research suggests that glaciers behind ice shelves may accelerate by as much as five times following a rapid ice shelf retreat. To read about a recent study on such glacial acceleration, see the 2004 news release, Antarctic Glaciers Accelerate in Wake of Ice Shelf Breakup.

What's happening to ice shelves?
In the last thirty years, scientists have observed a series of unusual ice shelf collapses on the Antarctic Peninsula. Although it is not unusual for ice shelves to calve large icebergs, that process normally takes months to years, as cracks slowly form in the ice. Following a calving, ice shelves generally recover over a period of decades.

In recent years, ice shelves on the Antarctic Peninsula and along the northern coast of Canada have experienced rapid disintegration. In March 2008, the Wilkins Ice Shelf in Antarctica retreated by more than 400 square kilometers (160 square miles). Later that summer, several ice shelves along Ellesmere Island in Northern Canada broke up in a matter of days.

In contrast, the collapses in previous years happened over a period of weeks, leaving a soup of chunky ice and small icebergs. The remaining ice shelves retreated by as much as 90 percent, and several have experienced repeated collapses. For more information on recent collapses, see Wilkins Ice Shelf Breakup Events and Larsen Ice Shelf Breakup Events. To learn more about the current state of ice shelves, see State of the Cryosphere: Ice Shelves.


This satellite image shows floating chunks of ice from the 2008 Wilkins Ice Shelf collapse. Credit: Cheng-Chien Liu, National Cheng-Kung University, and Dr. An-Ming Wu, National Space Organization, Taiwan

What causes an ice shelf to collapse?
Scientists think that the recent ice shelf collapses in both the Arctic and Antarctica are related to climate change. Most of the rapidly retreating ice shelves in Antarctica are located on the Antarctic Peninsula. The Antarctic Peninsula juts north towards South America, into warmer waters. The peninsula has warmed 2.5 degrees Celsius (4.5 degrees Fahrenheit) since 1950, making it one of the fastest-warming places on Earth.

Scientists attributed rapid ice shelf collapse to warmer air and water temperatures, as well as increased melt on the ice shelf surface. Retreating sea ice may also play a role.

Warm air melts the ice shelf surface, forming ponds of meltwater. As the water trickles down through small cracks in the ice shelf, it deepens, erodes, and expands those cracks. In a separate process, warmer water melts the ice shelf from below, thinning it and making it more vulnerable to cracking. Scientists have observed both processes in all the ice shelves that have rapidly retreated in recent years.

However, warm temperatures alone do not fully explain rapid ice shelf collapse. Recent research suggests that waning sea ice surrounding the Antarctic Peninsula and the Arctic ice shelves in Canada might also have contributed to the recent collapses. Sea ice provides a layer of protection between an ice shelf and the surrounding ocean, muting the power of large waves and storms. As sea ice decreases, more waves buffet the ice shelves. The largest waves can buckle and bend an ice shelf, increasing instability and possibly contributing to a collapse.


The Larsen Ice Shelf, on the Antarctic Peninsula, has experienced an unprecedented series of collapses. Credit: Ted Scambos, NSIDC

To learn more about research on ice shelf breakup, see the IceTrek project Web site.

How can I learn more?
NSIDC Resources
State of the Cryosphere: Ice Shelves. Find more in-depth information about ice shelves.
Larsen Ice Shelf Breakup Events. Browse news releases and images related to breakups on the Larsen Ice Shelf.
Wilkins Ice Shelf Breakup Events. Read news releases and find images related to breakups on the Wilkins Ice Shelf.

The Larsen Ice Shelf, on the Antarctic Peninsula, has experienced an unprecedented series of collapses.

Unprecedented: never done or known before.

It's claims like this that make it impossible to take the doomers seriosuly.
 
Yeah, by a negative 159 billion tonnes of ice each year.

There goes another know-nothing denialist troll.

No... negative 159 billion tons ONE year. A cumulative gain over the last 20 years. You want to dismiss the previous years where we gained sea ice and focus like a laser on the most recent year where you show a loss and pretend that has been the norm every year. That's just plain dishonest but it's what you've all become known for in this debate.

You're just dishonest people pushing an agenda. No one really knows why... maybe you think it's cool to be a Warmer? Maybe you think that makes you trendy and hip? Maybe you rely on government grants and funding somehow? Maybe you believe you're virtuously saving the world? Maybe you're a Marxist-Socialist piece of shit who simply wants to punish capitalists any way you can and deceiving the public is a great way to go about that? I don't know your motivations, I really don't... but regardless, there's nothing man can do to remedy the problem you are presenting. Even IF you are 100% correct (which you're not), there is no plan or scheme in which you can accomplish what needs to be accomplished. It's ALL a ruse.
The Bullshiter's usual denier cult drivel and lies that have nothing to do with the reality of the situation the world is facing.

The world scientific community is almost unanimous in warning us that human activities have raised atmospheric levels of a powerful greenhouse gas, CO2, by about 45% so far, with levels still rising fast, which is causing abrupt, rapid global warming which is starting to cause climate changes that will be very catastrophic for human civilization and all life on this planet.

Those are the facts.

The ginned up cult of AGW denial, full of ignorant rightwingnut morons, has the agenda their puppetmasters in the fossil fuel industry gave them - deny reality, fraudulently dispute the scientific evidence, try to delay any efforts to reduce carbon emissions so that the oil and coal barrons and corporate exectives can continue to make hundreds of billions of dollars profit every year selling the stuff that is killing our only planet.....and, of course, lie, lie, lie!
 
The Bullshiter's usual denier cult drivel and lies that have nothing to do with the reality of the situation the world is facing.

The world scientific community is almost unanimous in warning us that human activities have raised atmospheric levels of a powerful greenhouse gas, CO2, by about 45% so far, with levels still rising fast, which is causing abrupt, rapid global warming which is starting to cause climate changes that will be very catastrophic for human civilization and all life on this planet.

Those are the facts.

The ginned up cult of AGW denial, full of ignorant rightwingnut morons, has the agenda their puppetmasters in the fossil fuel industry gave them - deny reality, fraudulently dispute the scientific evidence, try to delay any efforts to reduce carbon emissions so that the oil and coal barrons and corporate exectives can continue to make hundreds of billions of dollars profit every year selling the stuff that is killing our only planet.....and, of course, lie, lie, lie!

Well I can certainly refute your claim that man is responsible for the 45% increase in CO2 over the last 150~200 years. This amount must dismiss ALL natural phenomenon regarding CO2. In other words, Mother Nature has stood on the sidelines since the dawn of the Industrial Revolution, neither creating or processing ANY CO2. That's the ONLY way you can attribute this 45% increase to man.

After presenting this flat out denial of actual science, you run to the safety of argumentum ad populum. Sorry, but that has NEVER been considered a valid scientific argument and, in fact, is the antithesis of the scientific method. We do not assume what is popularly believed is true, if we did, the belief the Earth is flat would still prevail. The belief that things slow down because they become tired and things levitate because they long to be near the heavens. (Aristotle) These popular beliefs were challenged by people who weren't afraid to challenge popular thought.

If you had been around in Isaac Newton's time, no doubt you would have mocked and ridiculed him for believing the moon was constantly falling to the Earth. You would have pointed to the 2,000 year history of popular consensus on levity and gravity and rejected his silly laws of motion.
 
The Bullshiter's usual denier cult drivel and lies that have nothing to do with the reality of the situation the world is facing.

The world scientific community is almost unanimous in warning us that human activities have raised atmospheric levels of a powerful greenhouse gas, CO2, by about 45% so far, with levels still rising fast, which is causing abrupt, rapid global warming which is starting to cause climate changes that will be very catastrophic for human civilization and all life on this planet.

Those are the facts.

The ginned up cult of AGW denial, full of ignorant rightwingnut morons, has the agenda their puppetmasters in the fossil fuel industry gave them - deny reality, fraudulently dispute the scientific evidence, try to delay any efforts to reduce carbon emissions so that the oil and coal barrons and corporate exectives can continue to make hundreds of billions of dollars profit every year selling the stuff that is killing our only planet.....and, of course, lie, lie, lie!

Well I can certainly refute your claim that man is responsible for the 45% increase in CO2 over the last 150~200 years.
Nope! Sorry, little retard. You can't. Another one of your ignorant hallucinations, I'm afraid.




This amount must dismiss ALL natural phenomenon regarding CO2. In other words, Mother Nature has stood on the sidelines since the dawn of the Industrial Revolution, neither creating or processing ANY CO2. That's the ONLY way you can attribute this 45% increase to man.
Nope again, dope. Just your ignorance showing again.

Natural processes have kept CO2 levels fairly constant at 280ppm for most of the Holocene. Although nature produces massive CO2 emissions every year, they are balanced every year by natural CO2 absorption and sequestration, so that levels have remained fairly steady for thousands of years. It is mankind's burning of fosssil fuels....which releases millions of years of years of natural carbon sequestration into ancient plants in just a matter of decades.....that have raised atmospheric CO2 levels by 45% so far.....and that is not even considering the enormous amounts of the excess CO2 that has been absorbed into the oceans, causing global warming' evil twin, ocean acidification. Scientists have calculated how much fossil fuel has been burned every year and the numbers match up quite well with the amount of extra excess CO2 in the air. Isotope analysis of the carbon dioxide in the air has identified the amounts that came from those ancient plants. We know where the extra CO2 came from, you clueless fool.








...this flat out denial of actual science...
Yeah, that's what you doing in every bullshit filled post you poop out onto this forum, all right.





you run to the safety of argumentum ad populum. Sorry....
....dumbshit, but the very real scientific consensus on the reality and dangers of human caused global warming and its consequent climate changes IS a valid piece of evidence that only ignorant cretins would imagine amounts to an "argumentum ad populum". You are an extremely ignorant and misinformed scientific retard.
 
We're not losing ice at an accelerating pace. That's a lie. At one pole we are losing ice, at the other poll we're gaining ice.

You know nothing:

CryoSat finds sharp increase in Antarctica’s ice losses

19 May 2014

Three years of observations from ESA’s CryoSat satellite show that the Antarctic ice sheet is now losing 159 billion tonnes of ice each year – twice as much as when it was last surveyed.

The polar ice sheets are a major contributor to the rise in global sea levels, and these newly measured losses from Antarctica alone are enough to raise global sea levels by 0.45 mm each year.

These latest findings by a team of scientists from the UK’s Centre for Polar Observation and Modelling show that the pattern of imbalance continues to be dominated by glaciers thinning in the Amundsen Sea sector of West Antarctica.
[...]


Ice loss and sea level rise

Ice_loss_and_sea_level_rise_node_full_image_2.jpg


Cumulative changes in the mass of the Antarctic ice sheet (pink) and the Greenland ice sheet (blue) from 1992 to 2011 determined from a reconciliation of measurements acquired by satellite radar altimetry, the input-output method, satellite gravimetry and satellite laser altimetry. Also shown is the equivalent global sea level contribution, calculated assuming that 360 gigatonnes of ice corresponds to 1 mm of sea level rise.​

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Actually, it is YOU who know nothing. Here is a more recent article, why didn't you reference it I wonder:eusa_whistle:

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What happens in Antarctica doesn't stay in Antarctica, since the continent's ice can affect global weather and sea level.


PHOTOGRAPH BY NASA/GSFC/JEFF SCHMALTZ/MODIS LAND RAPID RESPONSE TEAM
Are the Antarctic’s ice sheets shrinking or growing? And what does that mean for global sea-level rise?

Those questions are being hotly debated by the world’s climate scientists as global leaders prepare for the UN climate talks in Paris at the end of this month. Now, a new study by a team of NASA climate scientists has sparked controversy by reporting that “Antarctica is actually gaining ice.”

Scientists concluded in the Journal of Glaciology that the loss of glacier mass in Antarctica’s western region is being offset by thickening of glaciers on the continent’s eastern interior, which has experienced increased snowfall. The result: A net gain of about 100 billion tons of ice per year, according to the report.



What Antarctica’s Incredible “Growing” Icepack Really Means
 
The Bullshiter's usual denier cult drivel and lies that have nothing to do with the reality of the situation the world is facing.

The world scientific community is almost unanimous in warning us that human activities have raised atmospheric levels of a powerful greenhouse gas, CO2, by about 45% so far, with levels still rising fast, which is causing abrupt, rapid global warming which is starting to cause climate changes that will be very catastrophic for human civilization and all life on this planet.

Those are the facts.

The ginned up cult of AGW denial, full of ignorant rightwingnut morons, has the agenda their puppetmasters in the fossil fuel industry gave them - deny reality, fraudulently dispute the scientific evidence, try to delay any efforts to reduce carbon emissions so that the oil and coal barrons and corporate exectives can continue to make hundreds of billions of dollars profit every year selling the stuff that is killing our only planet.....and, of course, lie, lie, lie!

Well I can certainly refute your claim that man is responsible for the 45% increase in CO2 over the last 150~200 years.
Nope! Sorry, little retard. You can't. Another one of your ignorant hallucinations, I'm afraid.




This amount must dismiss ALL natural phenomenon regarding CO2. In other words, Mother Nature has stood on the sidelines since the dawn of the Industrial Revolution, neither creating or processing ANY CO2. That's the ONLY way you can attribute this 45% increase to man.
Nope again, dope. Just your ignorance showing again.

Natural processes have kept CO2 levels fairly constant at 280ppm for most of the Holocene. Although nature produces massive CO2 emissions every year, they are balanced every year by natural CO2 absorption and sequestration, so that levels have remained fairly steady for thousands of years. It is mankind's burning of fosssil fuels....which releases millions of years of years of natural carbon sequestration into ancient plants in just a matter of decades.....that have raised atmospheric CO2 levels by 45% so far.....and that is not even considering the enormous amounts of the excess CO2 that has been absorbed into the oceans, causing global warming' evil twin, ocean acidification. Scientists have calculated how much fossil fuel has been burned every year and the numbers match up quite well with the amount of extra excess CO2 in the air. Isotope analysis of the carbon dioxide in the air has identified the amounts that came from those ancient plants. We know where the extra CO2 came from, you clueless fool.








...this flat out denial of actual science...
Yeah, that's what you doing in every bullshit filled post you poop out onto this forum, all right.





you run to the safety of argumentum ad populum. Sorry....
....dumbshit, but the very real scientific consensus on the reality and dangers of human caused global warming and its consequent climate changes IS a valid piece of evidence that only ignorant cretins would imagine amounts to an "argumentum ad populum". You are an extremely ignorant and misinformed scientific retard.







Bull poo as usual. All you have is computer derived fiction to support your never ending line of bullshit. You anti science religious freaks are truly some of the stupidest people on the planet. The facts are that CO2 atmospheric content RISES with global temperature. When it is warm the oceans outgas the CO2, and CO2 has no ability to raise global temps. None. The very mechanism by which it would do the job, namely raising the temperature of the oceans it can not do as the long wave IR that it emits can't even break the skin of the water. Thus the oceans stay cool no matter how much long wave IR hits them. The whole theory collapses with that well known FACT.

Now piss off little denier troll.
 
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