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I don't understand why, with one black parent and one white parent, he doesn't refer to himself as bi-racial . . . because that's what he is.
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I hear all the time about race when it comes to Obama but I have one question, was Obama's mother white?And if she was then what exactly makes Obama strictly black in the eyes of those who use the race card when somebody critizizes him?
BTW we all know Stanley Ann Durham was white!
When he was elected, I KNEW racial discrimination and stereotypes would NOT be diminished. I knew how ugly it was going to get and sure enough, the day after he was elected, I saw the posters and comments from a certain few. Its only gotten worse.I hoped when Obama was elected that racial discrimination and stereotypes would be diminished, if only a little bit. Didn't work out that way, we're as divided as ever. Not saying it's all his fault, but his words and actions have not been helpful in that regard, and in my opinion have been the opposite.
I don't understand why, with one black parent and one white parent, he doesn't refer to himself as bi-racial . . . because that's what he is.
I don't understand why, with one black parent and one white parent, he doesn't refer to himself as bi-racial . . . because that's what he is.
Wasn't it white people who put out the one drop rule? I am pretty sure it wasnt blacks.
I hear all the time about race when it comes to Obama but I have one question, was Obama's mother white?And if she was then what exactly makes Obama strictly black in the eyes of those who use the race card when somebody critizizes him?
BTW we all know Stanley Ann Durham was white!
Here is the test for ya....what would you say if a half black man was dating your sister? I am being serious..would you say he was black or would you say he was a half black/half white gentleman who was dating your sister. How would you describe him to your buds at your local drinking/rally/ establishment or at your dinner table with your klan.....hmmmm?
By the way, I am black but on my fathers side its Italian. I was have never, ever been called half white and I was raised in west Philly.
He has a black wife, black children and if you saw him (without knowing who he was) and you found out he was dating your sister, believe me, the last words out of your mouth would be "half white" and you know it.
I hear all the time about race when it comes to Obama but I have one question, was Obama's mother white?And if she was then what exactly makes Obama strictly black in the eyes of those who use the race card when somebody critizizes him?
BTW we all know Stanley Ann Durham was white!
Here is the test for ya....what would you say if a half black man was dating your sister? I am being serious..would you say he was black or would you say he was a half black/half white gentleman who was dating your sister. How would you describe him to your buds at your local drinking/rally/ establishment or at your dinner table with your klan.....hmmmm?
By the way, I am black but on my fathers side its Italian. I was have never, ever been called half white and I was raised in west Philly.
He has a black wife, black children and if you saw him (without knowing who he was) and you found out he was dating your sister, believe me, the last words out of your mouth would be "half white" and you know it.
I know I'd refer to him as bi-racial because that's what he'd be. And I wouldn't give a shit about the color of his skin or his 'ethnicity' as long as he was a decent/good guy.
Interesting you refer to your father as Italian, rather than white. Why? Italian isn't a race it's a nationality. Oh wait . . . Philly. Nevermind! Besides, it isn't how others are referring to you (or Obama) but rather how you (or Obama) refer to yourself. Ok, at least that's what I was talking about.
Yes Obama's mother was "white"
It is easier to call someone a racist than confront their valid challenge to the president's positions.
Any other questions?
What did you mean by "it is easier to call someone a racist than confront their valid challenge to the president's positions".
I dont know any other way to read it but you are agreeing with his claims of "race Card" use.
If you agree that the ONLY reason people claim racism against the president is to use it falsely to avoid questions about his policies than that is blatent racism.
I meant that for some people its easier to just say "your being racist" than it is to actually confront what the other person in a discussion is saying.
That isn't me saying that no one who opposes the president does so because of racism. It is me saying some people that claim racism do so when there is none present in an effort to not address a challenge to their positions.
So yes I do agree with the idea that when some people use the race card they are doing so dishonestly. I also agree that some people who oppose the president are shallow enough to do so based on race alone.
I never spoke in absolute terms of ONLY, ALL, EVERY in this thread until this very sentence where I say never .
I hear all the time about race when it comes to Obama but I have one question, was Obama's mother white?And if she was then what exactly makes Obama strictly black in the eyes of those who use the race card when somebody critizizes him?
BTW we all know Stanley Ann Durham was white!
Raised by a white Mother and Grandparents. In a state with an african american population less than 2%.
Obama is as white as I am.
Raised by a white Mother and Grandparents. In a state with an african american population less than 2%.
Obama is as white as I am.
Except he looks out on a world that see his black face before they know all those things about him.
You have no idea what racism is do you?
Here is the test for ya....what would you say if a half black man was dating your sister? I am being serious..would you say he was black or would you say he was a half black/half white gentleman who was dating your sister. How would you describe him to your buds at your local drinking/rally/ establishment or at your dinner table with your klan.....hmmmm?
By the way, I am black but on my fathers side its Italian. I was have never, ever been called half white and I was raised in west Philly.
He has a black wife, black children and if you saw him (without knowing who he was) and you found out he was dating your sister, believe me, the last words out of your mouth would be "half white" and you know it.
I know I'd refer to him as bi-racial because that's what he'd be. And I wouldn't give a shit about the color of his skin or his 'ethnicity' as long as he was a decent/good guy.
Interesting you refer to your father as Italian, rather than white. Why? Italian isn't a race it's a nationality. Oh wait . . . Philly. Nevermind! Besides, it isn't how others are referring to you (or Obama) but rather how you (or Obama) refer to yourself. Ok, at least that's what I was talking about.
obama also referred to himself as mongrel and a mutt.
I know I'd refer to him as bi-racial because that's what he'd be. And I wouldn't give a shit about the color of his skin or his 'ethnicity' as long as he was a decent/good guy.
Interesting you refer to your father as Italian, rather than white. Why? Italian isn't a race it's a nationality. Oh wait . . . Philly. Nevermind! Besides, it isn't how others are referring to you (or Obama) but rather how you (or Obama) refer to yourself. Ok, at least that's what I was talking about.
obama also referred to himself as mongrel and a mutt.
He did, once or twice, to get a laugh.
Raised by a white Mother and Grandparents. In a state with an african american population less than 2%.
Obama is as white as I am.
Except he looks out on a world that see his black face before they know all those things about him.
You have no idea what racism is do you?
Since Obama considers himself black and refers to himself as black, we generally call him black.
obama also referred to himself as mongrel and a mutt.
He did, once or twice, to get a laugh.
i don't get why there is even a discussion going on about this topic.
He did, once or twice, to get a laugh.
i don't get why there is even a discussion going on about this topic.
Because Obama is black people who disagree with his politics often get labled as racist by his supporters (read nearly any post by rdean). If Obama was considered bi-racial, rather than black, those screaming racist couldn't use that card.
Black people aren't allowed to self-identify.obama also referred to himself as mongrel and a mutt.
He did, once or twice, to get a laugh.
i don't get why there is even a discussion going on about this topic.