Was Flynn entrapped?

[Lesh]

The judge is going to throw out the charges, so there won't be any jail time, fool.

And when he doesn't?

Who's the fool then retard?

 

[bripat9643]

The judge is going to throw out the charges, so there won't be any jail time, fool.

And when he doesn't?

Who's the fool then retard?

You will still be the fool.

 

[Lesh]

You will still be the fool.

When someone like you calls me a fool...I know I'm doing something right.

water off a duck's ass moron.

You are nothing

 

[bravoactual]

They got him in a perjury trap acting as buddies 4 days after Trump was sworn in...............Hey ........we are your friends......and the rest of those Disavowed that did it have been talked about to infinity already.....

Judge on Tuesday............lets see what he finds.........could get interesting.

These Gestapo tactics are outrageous.

No Miranda rights, falsely posing as just engaging in normal business, and pushing him to not have a lawyer....somehow is OK with Democrats if a Republican is the target?

That should be a serious warning to America of what kind of Republic these little Dim-Nazis would set up.

Flynn is a former Director of The Defense Intelligence Agency. He knew going into any interview with the F.B.I., that lying to the F.B.I. was a Federal Felony.

Miranda applies to a person under arrest, he was not under arrest.

He open his mouth and lied. He knew he was lying and he knew that lying to F.B.I. was a Federal Felony.

Cons raging about entrapment have no clue. But being Lying, Cheating Cons they live their whole and entire life without having a clue....it is easier for them that way.

 

[Leo123]

Exactly- Flynn was never set up and the FBI didn't force Flynn to lie to them as Flynn had lied to Pence and to the press.

And that is the truth.

You keep your 100% record of posting nothing true.

That's right. Comey waterboarded the poor man to force his lies. He never lied to the FBI about meeting with the Russian Ambassaodor. NEVER

And once again what was the exact lie? Are you guys part of a click-fatm?

 

[Skylar]

The INNOCENT General Flynn will be ex-honor-ated

Flynn is innocent according to who?

Not the law. Not Michael Flynn. Who then?

 

[Skylar]

Exactly- Flynn was never set up and the FBI didn't force Flynn to lie to them as Flynn had lied to Pence and to the press.

And that is the truth.

You keep your 100% record of posting nothing true.

That's right. Comey waterboarded the poor man to force his lies. He never lied to the FBI about meeting with the Russian Ambassaodor. NEVER

And once again what was the exact lie? Are you guys part of a click-fatm?

Look at the plea deal and see for yourself

Michael Flynn Plea Agreement Documents

Oh, that' right. You still refuse to look at Flynn's plea deal. Wallow in ignorance in then.

 

[Skylar]

How many years you think Flynn gets? Cohen got 3.

Probably no jail time at all if the plea deal holds up.

I wonder how all of Flynn's defenders are going to react if it turns out that he ended up providing testimony against Trump?

The judge is going to throw out the charges, so there won't be any jail time, fool.

Says the soul so wildly ignorant about the law that he insisted that miranda rights have to be read to people who aren't in custody.

Yeah, your command of the topic really doesn't amount to much.

 

[lantern2814]

Going to be fun watching these libtards cry and scream should this case get tossed (as looks likely seeing as this judge won't tolerate Mueller's bullshit). Judge seems to think there's something rotten here, and Mueller will have his feet put to the fire over it. Or perhaps he should have told Comey to STFU and not go on national television bragging about how they set Flynn up. Finished by your own words. Period.

Going to be fun watching you Trumpkins cry and scream when Flynn is sentenced for lying to the FBI.

Even your Dear Leader Lying Donald Trump admitted Flynn lied to the FBI

President Trump tweeted Saturday that he “had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI,” adding, “it is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!”

Uh oh! Looks like the Mule didn't turn over all the documents he was ORDERED to to the judge. Bye bye any hopes of getting Flynn. Seems the documents show hat they did indeed lie to Flynn and entrap him. Game, set, match. You lose. Again.

 

[lantern2814]

You will still be the fool.

When someone like you calls me a fool...I know I'm doing something right.

water off a duck's ass moron.

You are nothing

And that makes you less than nothing. The judge isn't very happy that Mueller didn't comply and turn over ALL documents. This case is getting thrown out and then I wouldn't be surprised to see Flynn sue Mueller into oblivion.

 

[Skylar]

Going to be fun watching these libtards cry and scream should this case get tossed (as looks likely seeing as this judge won't tolerate Mueller's bullshit). Judge seems to think there's something rotten here, and Mueller will have his feet put to the fire over it. Or perhaps he should have told Comey to STFU and not go on national television bragging about how they set Flynn up. Finished by your own words. Period.

Going to be fun watching you Trumpkins cry and scream when Flynn is sentenced for lying to the FBI.

Even your Dear Leader Lying Donald Trump admitted Flynn lied to the FBI

President Trump tweeted Saturday that he “had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI,” adding, “it is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!”

Uh oh! Looks like the Mule didn't turn over all the documents he was ORDERED to to the judge. Bye bye any hopes of getting Flynn. Seems the documents show hat they did indeed lie to Flynn and entrap him. Game, set, match. You lose. Again.

And by 'entrapping' Flynn......you mean they asked him questions. Exactly they like said they were going to do.

I don't think 'entrapment' means what you think it means.

 

[hazlnut]

Checking Robert Mueller
KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL DECEMBER 13, 2018

Robert Mueller has operated for 19 months as a law unto himself, reminding us of the awesome and destructive powers of special counsels. About the only possible check on Mr. Mueller is a judge who is wise to the tricks of prosecutors and investigators. Good news: That’s what we got this week.

Former national security adviser Mike Flynn a year ago pleaded guilty to one count of lying to the Federal Bureau of Investigation about his conversations with Russia’s ambassador to the U.S. Mr. Flynn’s defense team this week filed a sentencing memo to Judge Emmet Sullivan that contained explosive new information about the Flynn-FBI meeting in January 2017.

It was arranged by then-Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe, who personally called Mr. Flynn on other business, then suggested he sit down with two agents to clear up the Russia question. Mr. McCabe urged Mr. Flynn to conduct the interview with no lawyer present—to make things easier.

The agents (including the infamous Peter Strzok) showed up within two hours. They had already decided not to inform Mr. Flynn that they had transcripts of his conversations or give him the standard warning against lying to the FBI. They wanted him “relaxed” and “unguarded.” Former Director James Comey this weekend bragged on MSNBC that he would never have “gotten away” with such a move in a more “organized” administration.

The whole thing stinks of entrapment, though the curious question was how the Flynn defense team got the details. The court filing refers to a McCabe memo written the day of the 2017 meeting, as well as an FBI summary—known as a 302—of the Flynn interview. These are among documents congressional Republicans have been fighting to obtain for more than a year, only to be stonewalled by the Justice Department. Now we know why the department didn’t want them public.

They have come to light thanks to a man who knows well how men like Messrs. Mueller and Comey operate: Judge Sullivan. He sits on the U.S. District Court in the District of Columbia, and as he wrote for the Journal last year, he got a “wake-up call” in 2008 while overseeing the trial of then-Sen. Ted Stevens of Alaska. Judge Sullivan ultimately assigned a lawyer to investigate Justice Department misconduct.

The investigator’s report found prosecutors had engaged in deliberate and repeated ethical violations, withholding key evidence from the defense. It also excoriated the FBI for failing to write up 302s and for omitting key facts from those it did write. The head of the FBI was Mr. Mueller.

Judge Sullivan has since made it his practice to begin every case with a Brady order, which reminds prosecutors of their constitutional obligation to provide the defense with any exculpatory evidence. On Dec. 12, 2017, days after being assigned the Flynn case, Judge Sullivan issued such an order, instructing Mr. Mueller’s team to turn over “any evidence in its possession that is favorable to defendant and material either to defendant’s guilt or punishment.” Had any other judge drawn the case, we likely would never have seen these details of the FBI’s behavior.

It’s clear that something has concerned the judge—who likely sees obvious parallels to the Stevens case. The media was predicting a quick ruling in the Flynn case. Instead, Judge Sullivan issued new orders Wednesday, demanding to see for himself the McCabe memo and the Flynn 302. He also ordered the special counsel to hand over by Friday any other documents relevant to the Flynn-FBI meeting.

Given his history with the FBI, the judge may also have some questions about the curious date on the Flynn 302—Aug. 22, 2017, seven months after the interview. Texts from Mr. Strzok and testimony from Mr. Comey both suggest the 302 was written long before then. Was the 302 edited in the interim? If so, by whom, and at whose direction? FBI officials initially testified to Congress that the agents did not think Mr. Flynn had lied.

Judges have the ability to reject plea deals and require a prosecutor to make a case at trial. The criminal-justice system isn’t only about holding defendants accountable; trials also provide oversight of investigators and their tactics. And judges are not obliged to follow prosecutors’ sentencing recommendations.

No one knows how Judge Sullivan will rule. His reputation is for being no-nonsense, a straight shooter, an advocate of government transparency. Whatever the outcome, he has done the nation a favor by using his Brady order to hold prosecutors to some account and allow the country a glimpse at how federal law enforcement operates. Which is the very least the country can expect.

Outline - Read & annotate without distractions

It is hard not to come to the conclusion that two different forms of justice exist in this country, one for democrats and another for their adversaries. Specifically anyone with ties to Trump.

Oh, and did you know that the iphones issued to Strozk and Page by the SCO were determined BY SOMEONE IN THE SPECIAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE to contain ‘No substantive texts, notes or reminders', so the phones were wiped clean and restored to factory settings, meaning anything on them was gone. That was done after both of them were removed from the SCO investigation back in the summer of 2017, but given that many within Mueller's organization were friends/supporters/associates/donors to the Clintons, how much credence should we give to those determinations?

We don't know what information was summarily destroyed, but the whole process stinks to high heaven. Maybe it's all coincidental and innocent of wrong-doing, no proof that it wasn't because once again any possible incrimination evidence has been deleted. You know, after awhile a patttern kind of emerges.

The OIG was able to recover more than 19,000 texts between Strozk and Page on their old government-issued Samsung Galaxy S5 devices that had been lost due to the agency’s “collection tool failure.” The OIG did not include the content of these texts in the report. I suspect at some point maybe we'll find out more about what really happened.

DOJ Destroyed Missing Strzok/Page Texts Before IG Reviewed Them

Every conviction and/or plea has been approved by a Federal Judge. Every defendant has had legal representation. Every single filing, action, arrest, charge has been covered by media in detail. The conspiracy reality you want to believe does not exist.


Sorry.

 

[lantern2814]

Going to be fun watching these libtards cry and scream should this case get tossed (as looks likely seeing as this judge won't tolerate Mueller's bullshit). Judge seems to think there's something rotten here, and Mueller will have his feet put to the fire over it. Or perhaps he should have told Comey to STFU and not go on national television bragging about how they set Flynn up. Finished by your own words. Period.

Going to be fun watching you Trumpkins cry and scream when Flynn is sentenced for lying to the FBI.

Even your Dear Leader Lying Donald Trump admitted Flynn lied to the FBI

President Trump tweeted Saturday that he “had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI,” adding, “it is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!”

Uh oh! Looks like the Mule didn't turn over all the documents he was ORDERED to to the judge. Bye bye any hopes of getting Flynn. Seems the documents show hat they did indeed lie to Flynn and entrap him. Game, set, match. You lose. Again.

And by 'entrapping' Flynn......you mean they asked him questions. Exactly they like said they were going to do.

I don't think 'entrapment' means what you think it means.

Try reading. It helps you understand what's going on. The documents confirm that those agents LIED to Flynn and Mueller is trying to cover it up. And failing. The judge is not happy and Flynn's charges look like hey're going away. Flynn will be a rich man after he wipes out Mueller.

 

[Skylar]

Going to be fun watching these libtards cry and scream should this case get tossed (as looks likely seeing as this judge won't tolerate Mueller's bullshit). Judge seems to think there's something rotten here, and Mueller will have his feet put to the fire over it. Or perhaps he should have told Comey to STFU and not go on national television bragging about how they set Flynn up. Finished by your own words. Period.

Going to be fun watching you Trumpkins cry and scream when Flynn is sentenced for lying to the FBI.

Even your Dear Leader Lying Donald Trump admitted Flynn lied to the FBI

President Trump tweeted Saturday that he “had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI,” adding, “it is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!”

Uh oh! Looks like the Mule didn't turn over all the documents he was ORDERED to to the judge. Bye bye any hopes of getting Flynn. Seems the documents show hat they did indeed lie to Flynn and entrap him. Game, set, match. You lose. Again.

And by 'entrapping' Flynn......you mean they asked him questions. Exactly they like said they were going to do.

I don't think 'entrapment' means what you think it means.

Try reading. It helps you understand what's going on. The documents confirm that those agents LIED to Flynn and Mueller is trying to cover it up. And failing. The judge is not happy and Flynn's charges look like hey're going away. Flynn will be a rich man after he wipes out Mueller.

The agents told Flynn they were going to come over and ask Flynn some questions. They came over and asked Flynn some questions. Flynn lied to them.

That's not entrapment. That has nothing to do with entrapment. Your entire argument is pseudo-legal nonsense.

 

[Skylar]

Checking Robert Mueller
KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL DECEMBER 13, 2018

Robert Mueller has operated for 19 months as a law unto himself, reminding us of the awesome and destructive powers of special counsels. About the only possible check on Mr. Mueller is a judge who is wise to the tricks of prosecutors and investigators. Good news: That’s what we got this week.

Former national security adviser Mike Flynn a year ago pleaded guilty to one count of lying to the Federal Bureau of Investigation about his conversations with Russia’s ambassador to the U.S. Mr. Flynn’s defense team this week filed a sentencing memo to Judge Emmet Sullivan that contained explosive new information about the Flynn-FBI meeting in January 2017.

It was arranged by then-Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe, who personally called Mr. Flynn on other business, then suggested he sit down with two agents to clear up the Russia question. Mr. McCabe urged Mr. Flynn to conduct the interview with no lawyer present—to make things easier.

The agents (including the infamous Peter Strzok) showed up within two hours. They had already decided not to inform Mr. Flynn that they had transcripts of his conversations or give him the standard warning against lying to the FBI. They wanted him “relaxed” and “unguarded.” Former Director James Comey this weekend bragged on MSNBC that he would never have “gotten away” with such a move in a more “organized” administration.

The whole thing stinks of entrapment, though the curious question was how the Flynn defense team got the details. The court filing refers to a McCabe memo written the day of the 2017 meeting, as well as an FBI summary—known as a 302—of the Flynn interview. These are among documents congressional Republicans have been fighting to obtain for more than a year, only to be stonewalled by the Justice Department. Now we know why the department didn’t want them public.

They have come to light thanks to a man who knows well how men like Messrs. Mueller and Comey operate: Judge Sullivan. He sits on the U.S. District Court in the District of Columbia, and as he wrote for the Journal last year, he got a “wake-up call” in 2008 while overseeing the trial of then-Sen. Ted Stevens of Alaska. Judge Sullivan ultimately assigned a lawyer to investigate Justice Department misconduct.

The investigator’s report found prosecutors had engaged in deliberate and repeated ethical violations, withholding key evidence from the defense. It also excoriated the FBI for failing to write up 302s and for omitting key facts from those it did write. The head of the FBI was Mr. Mueller.

Judge Sullivan has since made it his practice to begin every case with a Brady order, which reminds prosecutors of their constitutional obligation to provide the defense with any exculpatory evidence. On Dec. 12, 2017, days after being assigned the Flynn case, Judge Sullivan issued such an order, instructing Mr. Mueller’s team to turn over “any evidence in its possession that is favorable to defendant and material either to defendant’s guilt or punishment.” Had any other judge drawn the case, we likely would never have seen these details of the FBI’s behavior.

It’s clear that something has concerned the judge—who likely sees obvious parallels to the Stevens case. The media was predicting a quick ruling in the Flynn case. Instead, Judge Sullivan issued new orders Wednesday, demanding to see for himself the McCabe memo and the Flynn 302. He also ordered the special counsel to hand over by Friday any other documents relevant to the Flynn-FBI meeting.

Given his history with the FBI, the judge may also have some questions about the curious date on the Flynn 302—Aug. 22, 2017, seven months after the interview. Texts from Mr. Strzok and testimony from Mr. Comey both suggest the 302 was written long before then. Was the 302 edited in the interim? If so, by whom, and at whose direction? FBI officials initially testified to Congress that the agents did not think Mr. Flynn had lied.

Judges have the ability to reject plea deals and require a prosecutor to make a case at trial. The criminal-justice system isn’t only about holding defendants accountable; trials also provide oversight of investigators and their tactics. And judges are not obliged to follow prosecutors’ sentencing recommendations.

No one knows how Judge Sullivan will rule. His reputation is for being no-nonsense, a straight shooter, an advocate of government transparency. Whatever the outcome, he has done the nation a favor by using his Brady order to hold prosecutors to some account and allow the country a glimpse at how federal law enforcement operates. Which is the very least the country can expect.

Outline - Read & annotate without distractions

It is hard not to come to the conclusion that two different forms of justice exist in this country, one for democrats and another for their adversaries. Specifically anyone with ties to Trump.

Oh, and did you know that the iphones issued to Strozk and Page by the SCO were determined BY SOMEONE IN THE SPECIAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE to contain ‘No substantive texts, notes or reminders', so the phones were wiped clean and restored to factory settings, meaning anything on them was gone. That was done after both of them were removed from the SCO investigation back in the summer of 2017, but given that many within Mueller's organization were friends/supporters/associates/donors to the Clintons, how much credence should we give to those determinations?

We don't know what information was summarily destroyed, but the whole process stinks to high heaven. Maybe it's all coincidental and innocent of wrong-doing, no proof that it wasn't because once again any possible incrimination evidence has been deleted. You know, after awhile a patttern kind of emerges.

The OIG was able to recover more than 19,000 texts between Strozk and Page on their old government-issued Samsung Galaxy S5 devices that had been lost due to the agency’s “collection tool failure.” The OIG did not include the content of these texts in the report. I suspect at some point maybe we'll find out more about what really happened.

DOJ Destroyed Missing Strzok/Page Texts Before IG Reviewed Them

Every conviction and/or plea has been approved by a Federal Judge. Every defendant has had legal representation. Every single filing, action, arrest, charge has been covered by media in detail. The conspiracy reality you want to believe does not exist.


Sorry.

Yeah, but these folks don't actually know how the law works. They insist that asking Flynn questions was 'entrapping him'. Or that the agents had to read Flynn his Miranda rights before questioning....when Flynn wasn't in custody. Or that Flynn lying to investigators was a violation of the 5th amendment's 'self incrimination' provisions.

Its just different flavors of the same pseudo-legal gibberish that the echo chamber consistently produces.

None of their claims have a thing to do with the actual law, the legal definition of 'entrapment' or the actual Miranda ruling, and you can't invoke the 5th amendment when you're *lying*. Only when telling the truth would incriminate you. And then only in refusing to answer the question.

 

[lantern2814]

Going to be fun watching these libtards cry and scream should this case get tossed (as looks likely seeing as this judge won't tolerate Mueller's bullshit). Judge seems to think there's something rotten here, and Mueller will have his feet put to the fire over it. Or perhaps he should have told Comey to STFU and not go on national television bragging about how they set Flynn up. Finished by your own words. Period.

Going to be fun watching you Trumpkins cry and scream when Flynn is sentenced for lying to the FBI.

Even your Dear Leader Lying Donald Trump admitted Flynn lied to the FBI

President Trump tweeted Saturday that he “had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI,” adding, “it is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!”

Uh oh! Looks like the Mule didn't turn over all the documents he was ORDERED to to the judge. Bye bye any hopes of getting Flynn. Seems the documents show hat they did indeed lie to Flynn and entrap him. Game, set, match. You lose. Again.

And by 'entrapping' Flynn......you mean they asked him questions. Exactly they like said they were going to do.

I don't think 'entrapment' means what you think it means.

Try reading. It helps you understand what's going on. The documents confirm that those agents LIED to Flynn and Mueller is trying to cover it up. And failing. The judge is not happy and Flynn's charges look like hey're going away. Flynn will be a rich man after he wipes out Mueller.

The agents told Flynn they were going to come over and ask Flynn some questions. They came over and asked Flynn some questions. Flynn lied to them.

That's not entrapment. That has nothing to do with entrapment. Your entire argument is pseudo-legal nonsense.

Seems the judge disagrees with you. When you admit you LIED about the purpose of the interview, denying Flynn legal counsel, you tend to get slapped by the judge. Comey bragging aout the set up on national TV was the final nail in this coffin. Withholding the 302 that states categorically that Flynn did NOT lie isn't going over well either. All you do it keep parroting the same lie over and over again. You're done. Commence whining.

 

[Skylar]

Going to be fun watching you Trumpkins cry and scream when Flynn is sentenced for lying to the FBI.

Even your Dear Leader Lying Donald Trump admitted Flynn lied to the FBI

President Trump tweeted Saturday that he “had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI,” adding, “it is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!”

Uh oh! Looks like the Mule didn't turn over all the documents he was ORDERED to to the judge. Bye bye any hopes of getting Flynn. Seems the documents show hat they did indeed lie to Flynn and entrap him. Game, set, match. You lose. Again.

And by 'entrapping' Flynn......you mean they asked him questions. Exactly they like said they were going to do.

I don't think 'entrapment' means what you think it means.

Try reading. It helps you understand what's going on. The documents confirm that those agents LIED to Flynn and Mueller is trying to cover it up. And failing. The judge is not happy and Flynn's charges look like hey're going away. Flynn will be a rich man after he wipes out Mueller.

The agents told Flynn they were going to come over and ask Flynn some questions. They came over and asked Flynn some questions. Flynn lied to them.

That's not entrapment. That has nothing to do with entrapment. Your entire argument is pseudo-legal nonsense.

Seems the judge disagrees with you.

Can you quote the judge saying this? Or by 'seems', do you actually mean 'imagine'?

When you admit you LIED about the purpose of the interview, denying Flynn legal counsel, you tend to get slapped by the judge. Comey bragging aout the set up on national TV was the final nail in this coffin. Withholding the 302 that states categorically that Flynn did NOT lie isn't going over well either. All you do it keep parroting the same lie over and over again. You're done. Commence whining.

Flynn wasn't in custody. Thus, there was no way that the agents could 'deny him counsel'.

Have you even read Miranda?

 

[lantern2814]

Jesus Christ you are just illiterate aren't you? Notice you keep dodging the blatant LIES that were exposed in those documents. They LIED about the purpose of the conversation. Get that through your pea brain. The judge wouldn't be demanding documents if he had no questions would he moron? Flynn's case will be dismissed and he'll be rich when he gets done with Mueller. By the way, Flynn was told he didn't need a lawyer. That is denial of counsel in the real world. Then again, YOU would be the liar who claimed the Enron and Hatfill cases never happened. I slapped you then and slap you aan.

 

[Skylar]

Jesus Christ you are just illiterate aren't you? Notice you keep dodging the blatant LIES that were exposed in those documents. They LIED about the purpose of the conversation. Get that through your pea brain. The judge wouldn't be demanding documents if he had no questions would he moron? Flynn's case will be dismissed and he'll be rich when he gets done with Mueller.

So when you said the 'judge disagreed', you mean you disagreed. And you just pretended to be the judge.

That's not the same thing, is it?

By the way, Flynn was told he didn't need a lawyer. That is denial of counsel in the real world. Then again, YOU would be the liar who claimed the Enron and Hatfill cases never happened. I slapped you then and slap you aan.

Not unless Flynn is in custody, its not. Remember, we're dealing with the ACTUAL law. Not what you think you might heard once watching an episode of Law and Order.

Again, read the Miranda ruling. Keep a special eye open for the term 'custodial interrogation'. Which Flynn's interview in his office was not.

 

[jc456]

Flynn fucked himself

not one single human held a gun to his head and made him lie or answer questions without a lawyer present - NOT ONE.

how does that resolve the entrapment exactly?