WARNING: Tons of Gun Control Bills Came Out - HOUSE

[logical4u]

Oh, get over yourself. I can't imagine anybody betting butthurt by anything you say. You're insignificant, dear.

Having armed guards in all of our schools is unrealistic!!! Common sense just escapes you, doesn't it??

It's good enough for the children of politicians and celebrities, why would it be 'unrealistic' for the rest of our kids?

I asked you how many schools are in the United States?? How would we pay for these guards?? Do you expect them to walk around the halls with rifles?? We are going to become the country of animals if you people have your way. But you won't.

Look, you people got your way. You forced the LORD out of schools. Children are not allowed to learn how the LORD touches adults lives, and the administrators go out of their way to hire people that do not include the LORD in their lives. This school shooting is a perfect example of what happens when the LORD is not welcome.
Now, you have to work harder to get a similar result. Your money will have to be spent on armed guards, because having the LORD in school offends someone. Your money will not be able to go to those other great projects like, indoctinating children into socialism/communism, more food stamps, more welfare, less corporations, and more unemployment. It will have to go to protect the future slaves that you and people like you have chosen to to enslave. If they are killed off, there will not be a continuation of the "welfare system", you will be overrun by foreigners that refuse to share their hard work and rewards with those that refuse to work themselves. Your only chance to keep the system going is to protect the children in school that are used as indoctrination to a life of slavery (where their efforts go to their masters [the gov't], before they get any for themselves), teaching them that supporting parasites is a good thing, and self achievment is bad.

 

[logical4u]

I'm so sick of hearing about the 2nd amendment and the whiners claiming their rights are being stolen from them. Do any of you get that when the Bill of Rights was written, single-fire muskets were the only guns available. Now, one person can kill multiple people in a matter of seconds. Why does anybody need a weapon like that??

Are the bad guys using single fire muskets?

 

[logical4u]

It's not the Adam Lanza's of America that are killing everyone, Joe...

America Doesn’t Have a Gun Problem, It Has a Gang Problem

Yeah, and the libs don't want to discuss that either (it goes back to single parents)!

again,you can be the most ill-raised, non-Christian fuck in the world, and guess what, if you don't have guns, you can't kill people.

You are absolutely wrong. There must be fifty ways to murder a person without a gun.

But hey, don't let the truth get in the way of a good STORY.

 

[MikeK]

Typical Liberals, playing politics with the deaths of children... Despicable to use tragedies to usurp the Freedoms of the American people. It's OK though... Whenever they embark down this tyrannical road with regards to gun control, they get their political asses handed to them.

That is just not true and you know it. People with good hearts don't want this to happen again. People like you only care that someone might take your toys away. You couldn't care less about these poor children or doing anything to stop it from happening again.

Noah Pozner's mother, Veronique, gave an interview recently. This was written by the interviewer:

I spent over an hour with Veronique; she talked me through her experience on December 14 and the days that followed. Her story was filled with moving and harrowing details: her dream of wandering an abandoned building calling out for Noah, her meeting with President Obama at a vigil at the local high school and her decision to get a tattoo of angel wings and Noah’s name the day after his death. The details that stuck with me the most — and the details which I felt most conflicted about putting in print — were Veronique’s descriptions of the damage to her son’s body. He was shot 11 times; she told me that his jaw and his left hand were mostly gone.

Veronique told me that Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy visited her in the funeral home, and she brought him to see Noah’s open casket. I asked her why it was important for her and for the governor to see Noah’s body. “I needed it to have a face for him,” she said. “If there is ever a piece of legislation that comes across his desk, I needed it to be real for him.”

Then, unprompted by me, Veronique described what she saw: “We all saw how beautiful he was. He had thick, shiny hair, beautiful long eyelashes that rested on his cheeks. He looked like he was sleeping. But the reality of it was under the cloth he had covering his mouth there was no mouth left. His jaw was blown away. I just want people to know the ugliness of it so we don’t talk about it abstractly, like these little angels just went to heaven. No. They were butchered. They were brutalized. And that is what haunts me at night.”

Wrestling With Details of Noah Pozner's Killing

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And all you can do is whine about your gun rights. You're pathetic.

Rinata,

If you had the political authority to enact any type of gun legislation you believe would put an end to gun violence in America, what specific laws would you enact?

 

[clevergirl]

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If you want to infringe on our rights that are protected by the constitution then you need to show just cause. Passing legislation because it feels good to do something is not sufficient. As gun stricter gun laws have shown to be ineffective they must not be passed. Not only will it accomplish nothing but it also stops you from actually addressing the problem as you already did 'something.'

Again, so far NO ONE has been able to present any data that backs up further gun legislation.

Fuck the constitution...

The lamest excuse for letting every asshole in the world have a gun is because some dead slave rapist couldn't structure a sentence properly when talking about militias...

 

[JoeB131]

He wasn't wrong.

He was a creepy ass child molestor who thought the world was going to end in 2000, so he needed a lot of guns...

Thank C'Thulhu we got those mutants the fuck out of the gene pool.

My God, you really are a BITTER old fuck, Joe.

Not at all. I find it damned funny. People with a weird religion who thought they could take out the government, and they got barbaqued... Hilarious.

 

[JoeB131]

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If you want to infringe on our rights that are protected by the constitution then you need to show just cause. Passing legislation because it feels good to do something is not sufficient. As gun stricter gun laws have shown to be ineffective they must not be passed. Not only will it accomplish nothing but it also stops you from actually addressing the problem as you already did 'something.'

Again, so far NO ONE has been able to present any data that backs up further gun legislation.

Fuck the constitution...

The lamest excuse for letting every asshole in the world have a gun is because some dead slave rapist couldn't structure a sentence properly when talking about militias...

Okay, but for the record, the ONE TIME under his watch when someone said, "We don't like the Federal Government anymore, we're leaving, he unleashed a big case of whoopass on them.

Something to keep in mind when you guys say, "My cold dead hands"....

 

[JoeB131]

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Look, you people got your way. You forced the LORD out of schools. Children are not allowed to learn how the LORD touches adults lives, and the administrators go out of their way to hire people that do not include the LORD in their lives. This school shooting is a perfect example of what happens when the LORD is not welcome.
Now, you have to work harder to get a similar result. Your money will have to be spent on armed guards, because having the LORD in school offends someone. Your money will not be able to go to those other great projects like, indoctinating children into socialism/communism, more food stamps, more welfare, less corporations, and more unemployment. It will have to go to protect the future slaves that you and people like you have chosen to to enslave. If they are killed off, there will not be a continuation of the "welfare system", you will be overrun by foreigners that refuse to share their hard work and rewards with those that refuse to work themselves. Your only chance to keep the system going is to protect the children in school that are used as indoctrination to a life of slavery (where their efforts go to their masters [the gov't], before they get any for themselves), teaching them that supporting parasites is a good thing, and self achievment is bad.

Okay, except the Germans and the British have gotten the Invisible Sky Pixie out of their schools and out of their life. They've turned Churches into bars and nail salons and condos..

And you know what...

They don't have nearly as many shooting deaths as we do.

Because they don't have easy access to guns.

 

[JoeB131]

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......"few gun deaths"? So it is okay if they are robbed daily, hunker down at home when a bad guy is beating on the door, to get in, more robberies, deaths from other weapons, but for some reason, you want to take the one weapon that is a true "equalizer". It does not matter what color you are, not what race you are, not what sex you are, not what size you are, not what religion you are, not what sexual choices you make. If some one shoots you with a gun, chances are you are going down. If they shoot you several times, you are going down. You will not get up, you will not continue to threaten anyone. (and yes, innocent people are shot, but as the lefties are so fond of saying about islamic extremists: it is okay, less than one percent have the problem, so it should be okay when it comes to guns, too?). The more good people that carry guns, the fewer chances the bad guys have to carry out multiple murders (with the exception of the places the lefties have made sure are absolutely vulnerable, like schools, and some other public places where crowds gather). Watch the news, do you see gangs/wackos going off at "gun shows" (where there are lots, and lots of guns, and if guns had their own minds, they would be jumping up and shooting everyone in the place....), at places where hunters gather (crack shots with rifles), pistol ranges, firing ranges, gun stores, etc? Do you? NO, you don't, you see shootings where people are afraid to stand up to bad people and for themselves. Now would you care to explain why people will not stand up for themselves, or even their families? Or is that too close to home for the lefties?

Why would the crooks shoot up gun shows? You don't shit where you eat.

Guns shows are where the crooks and nuts get their weapons, since they don't do those pesky background checks.

But if you think that they pick there targets logically, you are as deranged as they are.

Holmes picked that movie because the guy really thought he was the Joker. Batman wasn't going to show up at a gun show.

We really don't know why Lanza picked that school, but it probably had to do with his own experiences in schools.

Cho picked VA Tech because he was a mal-adjusted student there.

 

[Rinata]

Here's a little Wiki for you, since you're too fucking lazy to look it up yourself.



Fort Hood shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

IDIOT!

You should have done that in the first place. You are the lazy one.

Now let's see. Our own military base cannot have armed guards but you think our schools should?? Do you see anything wrong with that picture?? Idiot.

Your avatar should be the scarecrow! Military bases have armed guards. The military that are not MPs are not allowed to openly carry (if that is too difficult for you, know that bad guys with guns can only be stopped when they run out of bullets or when another person has a gun, get it?). The muslim extremist did not follow the rules or the laws when he opened fire on unarmed people for his "religion".

The point is that even with all of the firearms on the base it did not prevent him from opening fire and killing people, right??

The same thing would happen at the school. Schools are big!! There are a lot of ways to gain entrance. They cannot all be covered by one guard.

Is this guard supposed to walk around with a rifle in front of the kids?? Lovely way to go to school. Nobody needs assault rifles. Why can't you people get that through your fat heads??

Having guns does not prevent people from being robbed either. If you don't know it's coming, how can you be prepared?? If someone pulls a gun on you do you think they are going to give you a chance to get yours?? Or are we supposed to sleep with them and carry them around our necks when we go out??

So what solution did you people come up with to prevent another tragedy in our schools?? Have armed guards. Stupid!! How about cracking down on current laws or make new ones?? And be diligent about making sure they are followed. No, because you big cry babies say your rights are being trampled. That is debatable.

 

[FA_Q2]

Well, that's an improvement, then. Glad to have you on board!

Idiot we still lead the world in murders are you that fucking stupid. Now imagine if we didn't have guns the murder rate might be even higher, I mean after all most of those murders happen in gun free zones or places that have very restrictive gun laws.

No, if we didn't have guns, the murder rate would be lower, because most people would be more squeamish bout blundgeoning or stabbing someone to death.

And a "gun free zone" is like declaring a "safe swimming zone" in shark infested waters. If the sharks can get in and out, it isn't safe.

Except that I already gave you the numbers and that is out right false.

Here it is again, in England, where strict gun laws were put into place and the murder rate simply continues to rise with no regard to the law:

You are clinging onto this idea with zero facts to back it up.

 

[MikeK]

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So what solution did you people come up with to prevent another tragedy in our schools?? Have armed guards. Stupid!! How about cracking down on current laws or make new ones?? [...]

You didn't answer the first time I asked so I'll ask again: What new laws would you recommend to prevent gun violence? And please be specific.

 

[bayoubill]

Well here we go. Anyone who can support this is totally ignorant of the second amendment, and how much of a failure gun control, gun free zones, and assault weapons bans are.

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don't need a 6:31 video to know what's going on...

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[FA_Q2]

You should have done that in the first place. You are the lazy one.

Now let's see. Our own military base cannot have armed guards but you think our schools should?? Do you see anything wrong with that picture?? Idiot.

Have you ever even set foot on a military base? I have my doubts, because EVERY GATE on EVERY BASE is manned by ARMED guards with M-16's.

You should stop replying, you're looking dumber by the post.

IDIOT!

You just think you know everything. I went to Fort Ord several times years ago and I've been to Fort Collins once.

So what's your point?? The bottom line is that a nut was able to shoot up a military base and kill people, right?? So armed guards did no good just as they won't do any good in our schools.

If my posts are so dumb, then why are you still responding?? Ass.

The point is, since you have taken up pages in not understanding it, is that military bases are examples of what you are asking for - a place where no one has a legal gun.

Military installations are essentially gun free zones except on duty police who were not near the shooter at the time. The one thing that he knew was that no one around him was armed.

None of this matters though. I could give two shits about the NRA's asinine statement that schools should have armed guards. That is not going to stop intelligent crazy people like the one at sandy hook. The point is that gun control is ineffective as well. Pointing out that armed guards is asinine does exactly squat to support gun control. They are completely separate issues.

Oh, and just so you know - MANY SCHOOLS ALREADY EMPLOY AN ARMED GUARD. It is not as though this is something new.

 

[Nosmo King]

What is the virtue of high capacity ammunition magazines? What indispensable good do they provide?

What is wrong with stricter background checks? If we agree that the assault weapons aren't killing dozens of school kids, but madmen are killing dozens of school kids, what's wrong with assuring weapons don't fall into the hands of madmen?

Schools have been going hat in hand to tax payers for incidentals like text books, HVAC systems, roofs, crumbling asbestos containing insulation. But now some are calling on schools to provide armed guards. If the money isn't there for textbooks, where do you suppose that money will come from to provide training, salaries, equipment and the added liability premiums once we ladle guns into the schools?

 

[Rinata]

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So what solution did you people come up with to prevent another tragedy in our schools?? Have armed guards. Stupid!! How about cracking down on current laws or make new ones?? [...]

You didn't answer the first time I asked so I'll ask again: What new laws would you recommend to prevent gun violence? And please be specific.

Fine. But you're not going to like it, I'm sure. I would like to see all guns banned from this country like they are in Great Britain. But that is not likely to happen. I'll have to settle for the plan of the person I just voted for, Senator Diane Feinstein.

Diane Feinstein is proposing a bill that will enhanced the assault weapons ban that we had in 1994. This legislation will ban the sale, transfer, importation, possession of assault weapons, ban high-capacity magazines and clips of more than ten bullets, require background checks for all gun purchases, and determine the relationship of mental illness to violence.

I don't see anything at all unreasonable about that.

 

[Rinata]

Have you ever even set foot on a military base? I have my doubts, because EVERY GATE on EVERY BASE is manned by ARMED guards with M-16's.

You should stop replying, you're looking dumber by the post.

IDIOT!

You just think you know everything. I went to Fort Ord several times years ago and I've been to Fort Collins once.

So what's your point?? The bottom line is that a nut was able to shoot up a military base and kill people, right?? So armed guards did no good just as they won't do any good in our schools.

If my posts are so dumb, then why are you still responding?? Ass.

The point is, since you have taken up pages in not understanding it, is that military bases are examples of what you are asking for - a place where no one has a legal gun.

Military installations are essentially gun free zones except on duty police who were not near the shooter at the time. The one thing that he knew was that no one around him was armed.

None of this matters though. I could give two shits about the NRA's asinine statement that schools should have armed guards. That is not going to stop intelligent crazy people like the one at sandy hook. The point is that gun control is ineffective as well. Pointing out that armed guards is asinine does exactly squat to support gun control. They are completely separate issues.

Oh, and just so you know - MANY SCHOOLS ALREADY EMPLOY AN ARMED GUARD. It is not as though this is something new.

You are so tiresome and you just want to argue. I don't believe anything you say anyway. You just throw things out there with no proof of what you're saying.

 

[Nosmo King]

March 30, 1981. An assailant wounded four, including two who were carrying firearms. The assailant fired into an armed cadre of men and women expertly trained and proficient with all manner of guns.

If the President of the United States and his retinue can be wounded, what makes anyone think that a school teacher packing heat can prevent a school shooting?

And isn't the notion of armed school personnel just an escalation of a mini arms race? Did we learn anything from the macro arms race we suffered through during the Cold War?

 

[FA_Q2]

You just think you know everything. I went to Fort Ord several times years ago and I've been to Fort Collins once.

So what's your point?? The bottom line is that a nut was able to shoot up a military base and kill people, right?? So armed guards did no good just as they won't do any good in our schools.

If my posts are so dumb, then why are you still responding?? Ass.

The point is, since you have taken up pages in not understanding it, is that military bases are examples of what you are asking for - a place where no one has a legal gun.

Military installations are essentially gun free zones except on duty police who were not near the shooter at the time. The one thing that he knew was that no one around him was armed.

None of this matters though. I could give two shits about the NRA's asinine statement that schools should have armed guards. That is not going to stop intelligent crazy people like the one at sandy hook. The point is that gun control is ineffective as well. Pointing out that armed guards is asinine does exactly squat to support gun control. They are completely separate issues.

Oh, and just so you know - MANY SCHOOLS ALREADY EMPLOY AN ARMED GUARD. It is not as though this is something new.

You are so tiresome and you just want to argue. I don't believe anything you say anyway. You just throw things out there with no proof of what you're saying.

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Methinks you did not look at the person that posted this particular post. I am one of the few that actually has tried presenting actual data here...

 

[MikeK]

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So what solution did you people come up with to prevent another tragedy in our schools?? Have armed guards. Stupid!! How about cracking down on current laws or make new ones?? [...]

You didn't answer the first time I asked so I'll ask again: What new laws would you recommend to prevent gun violence? And please be specific.

Fine. But you're not going to like it, I'm sure. I would like to see all guns banned from this country like they are in Great Britain. But that is not likely to happen. I'll have to settle for the plan of the person I just voted for, Senator Diane Feinstein.

Diane Feinstein is proposing a bill that will enhanced the assault weapons ban that we had in 1994. This legislation will ban the sale, transfer, importation, possession of assault weapons, ban high-capacity magazines and clips of more than ten bullets, require background checks for all gun purchases, and determine the relationship of mental illness to violence.

I don't see anything at all unreasonable about that.

The best example of the effectiveness of bans is the utterly counterproductive War On Drugs, which was initiated by Richard Nixon and escalated to the maximum Constitutionally permissible level by Ronald Reagan. In the four decades that followed we have wasted enough money to solve any of our most serious problems, created a monstrous prison bureaucracy, ruined millions of lives, created a menacing law-enforcement industrial complex, and the bottom line is drugs are more available today than they were when Nixon hatched the stupid idea.

As I've repeatedly said -- where guns in America are concerned the toothpaste is out of the tube. Nothing but the most Draconian form of federal oppression has the slightest chance of controlling the availability of guns to anyone who wants them and has the cash to pay for them.

Nothing.