Warmists Hung Out To Dry

[mamooth]

I love watching the two of you duke it out!!!

So you don't see the difference in taking a paycheck to do impartial research, and taking a paycheck to be a dishonest shill?

Oh, you do. You're just pretending you don't.

 

[mamooth]

Bitch please they didn't have anything that would measure world wide temps to the hundredth or even the tenth of a degree.

And nobody says they did.

The funny part is how you simply don't understand that you have no clue about how statistics work. You're a poster child for Dunning-Kruger syndrome, a person who is just too stupid to understand how stupid they are.

 

[mamooth]

"Right after the year 2000,

Repeating Goddard's fraud now?

Come on. Even Goebbels would tell you to tone it down. You have to put some limits on the big lie technique.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Bitch please they didn't have anything that would measure world wide temps to the hundredth or even the tenth of a degree.

And nobody says they did.

The funny part is how you simply don't understand that you have no clue about how statistics work. You're a poster child for Dunning-Kruger syndrome, a person who is just too stupid to understand how stupid they are.

 

[Old Rocks]

Ah yes, the same Richard Lindzen that took money from the tobacco industry to testify before Congress that it was harmless. That Richard Lindzen. A whore.

Every single 'warmist' takes money to make their claims.
What do you suppose Liberal monasteries...Universities....pay them for, you dunce!

They pay them to study the discipline that is their specialty. And the honesty of those in academic research in the sciences far, far exceeds the honesty that you have displayed. When a glaciologist states that he has tracked several different glaciers, using photos and observations from the past and present data for the last 30 years, it is very easy to check his data. So, if his claims are fraudulent, he will lose his job, especially if he has published those claims. But when you have frauds like Monkton, Watts, and other liars making claims, and they are proven false, assholes like you give them a pass. Accountability is the difference between mealy mouthed liars like you and real scientists.

Dr. James Hansen made this prediction in 1981. Pretty well put his reputation on line making it. And was called an alarmist for making this predicition.

https://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/1981/1981_Hansen_ha04600x.pdf

Summary. The global temperature rose by 0.20C between the middle 1960's and 1980, yielding a warming of 0.4°C in the past century. This temperature increase is consistent with the calculated greenhouse effect due to measured increases of atmospheric carbon dioxide. Variations of volcanic aerosols and possibly solar luminosity appear to be primary causes of observed fluctuations about the mean trend of increasing temperature. It is shown that the anthropogenic carbon dioxide warming should emerge from the noise level of natural climate variability by the end of the century, and there is a high probability of warming in the 1980's. Potential effects on climate in the 21st century include the creation of drought-prone regions in North America and central Asia as part of a shifting of climatic zones, erosion of the West Antarctic ice sheet with a consequent worldwide rise in sea level, and opening of the fabled Northwest Passage.

That link is to the whole article. As an alarmist, Dr. Hansen failed miserably. He thought we would see that opening of the Northwest Passage toward the end of this century. It first opened in 2007, and last year, a huge cruise ship transited it.

 

[Old Rocks]

What was the Temps in..say 1854? Oh and what kind of instruments did they use to measure them?

Thermometers, for one. And many proxy measurements.

So, do you know what a thermometer is?

(Given their intellect, I have to treat deniers like I'd treat a slow 4-year-old.)

Perhaps you overestimate their intellects?

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Every single 'warmist' takes money to make their claims.
What do you suppose Liberal monasteries...Universities....pay them for, you dunce!

Every scientist in history has drawn a salary from somewhere.

Yet, you only think it's a problem this time.

Why the raging double standards, hypocrite? Why do you only demand climate scientists take a vow of poverty?

No. We only demand that they take a vow of honesty.

*****SMILE*****

 

[mamooth]

No. We only demand that they take a vow of honesty.

So you're condemning the denier fraudsters as well? Excellent! Glad to have you on the rational and honest team.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

How long have we on the Right been claiming that 'Global Warming' is a political scam?

Yes, you'rve been babbling those cult lies for many years, and been busted for those lies every time. And now you want a repeat? Bring it on, cultist.

I find more likely that it's you who are the cultist.

Now...here is Steven E. Koonin,

A guy with no experience in the climate field, who just makes crap up. That is, a typical denier.

Sort of like Nobel Prize Winner Al Gore.

5. NOAA fixed the 2016 increase at 0.04 degrees Celsius. The British Met Office reported 0.04 degrees Celsius Both increases are well within the margin of error for such calculations, approximately 0.1 degrees, and therefore are dismissed by many scientists as meaningless.

Yes, the mysterious 'many scientists' who aren't named. Nobody who understand statistics would say such a stupid thing, hence few scientists would say it.

Would you like a listing of all the physicists and astronomers who have bailed on your fabulous global warming cultism due to the shoddy scientific method utilized?

Such characterizations are absurd, according to Richard Lindzen, a meteorology professor at MIT....

"Paid fossil fuel industry shill tries to earn a bigger paycheck. Film at 11"

Tell us about people who are not scientists earning Nobel Prizes for their grand promotion of supposed scientific advancement of global warming?

Soooo.....the above is the answer to the riddle...'when is science not science.'

When deniers do it. They get busted for fraud every time.

Everyone who knows basic statistics knows you're peddling crap. Sure, you can fool your fellow cultists, because they're remarkably stupid people. You can't, however, fool the people who understand the science and statistics. They know you're telling everyone 2+2=5.

Maybe, 1984 style, you can torture people into believing 2+2=5. Is that your Stalinist master plan?

Gee... I feel so stupid NOT! Statistics can make the world look cold or hot if you ignore things like say... solar radiation.

*****CHUCKLE*****

 

[mamooth]

Would you like a listing of all the physicists and astronomers who have bailed on your fabulous global warming cultism due to the shoddy scientific method utilized?

Nah. We've seen that stupid logical fallacy before. We're not cultists like you, so we don't do argument by authority fallacies. We look at data, not personalities.

Gee... I feel so stupid NOT! Statistics can make the world look cold or hot if you ignore things like say... solar radiation.

Then why are you ignoring it? After all, the real scientists have always examined it closely. It's been going down.

Did you not know that? Oh, that's right. If your cult doesn't tell you something, you have no hope of knowing it, because your cult forbids you from looking at any outside sources.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

No. We only demand that they take a vow of honesty.

So you're condemning the denier fraudsters as well? Excellent! Glad to have you on the rational and honest team.

The only frauds I've seen are those who use statistics to manipulate the figures by ignoring important factors to the overall model they are attempting to create. BTW that would be the global warming alarmists.

*****CHUCKLE*****

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Would you like a listing of all the physicists and astronomers who have bailed on your fabulous global warming cultism due to the shoddy scientific method utilized?

Nah. We've seen that stupid logical fallacy before. We're not cultists like you, so we don't do argument by authority fallacies. We look at data, not personalities.

Gee... I feel so stupid NOT! Statistics can make the world look cold or hot if you ignore things like say... solar radiation.

Then why are you ignoring it? After all, the real scientists have always examined it closely. It's been going down.

Did you not know that? Oh, that's right. If your cult doesn't tell you something, you have no hope of knowing it, because your cult forbids you from looking at any outside sources.

The only cult ignoring looking at outside sources are the global warming alarmists. That or the civilization on Mars is suffering from to much CO2 being pumped into their atmosphere causing their ice caps to shrink also. Oh wait!!!!! There isn't a civilization on Mars is there... Maybe it's because the solar radiation increased and now it's decreasing and that's why a prominent Russian institution is saying we're now in a period of global cooling. Contrary to what you cultist wish to promote.

*****CHUCKLE*****

 

[flacaltenn]

And all that ignorant flap yap will not change the warming one bit. Sea Ice at both poles is at record lows for this time of year. 2014 was the warmest year on record. Until 2015. And then came 2016. Three record years in a row. Extreme weather events have become the norm. And the whole time, our ignoramuses like PC continually yap about 'alternative facts. 'Facts' that stink, as they pulled them out of their ass.

0.04deg is not record breaking. Not when you can "manufacture" a record of 0.04deg by small manipulation of the "normalization or baseline" used in calculating the anomaly. Part of the "trick" of making these records, is not that the temperature is changing -- but the BASELINE IS CONSISTENTLY changing, because they are going back and revising temperatures from 30s and 40s EVERY FUCKING DAY.

Or -- at least they were.

 

[mamooth]

The only cult ignoring looking at outside sources are the global warming alarmists. That or the civilization on Mars is suffering from to much CO2 being pumped into their atmosphere causing their ice caps to shrink also. Oh wait!!!!! There isn't a civilization on Mars is there... Maybe it's because the solar radiation increased and now it's decreasing and that's why a prominent Russian institution is saying we're now in a period of global cooling. Contrary to what you cultist wish to promote.

Mars isn't warming. I guess that's another thing that your cult failed to inform you about.

Not to worry. I'm sure by now you must be very used to reality shooting you down.

So is there any cult myth that you haven't fallen for? Even one?

 

[flacaltenn]

The only cult ignoring looking at outside sources are the global warming alarmists. That or the civilization on Mars is suffering from to much CO2 being pumped into their atmosphere causing their ice caps to shrink also. Oh wait!!!!! There isn't a civilization on Mars is there... Maybe it's because the solar radiation increased and now it's decreasing and that's why a prominent Russian institution is saying we're now in a period of global cooling. Contrary to what you cultist wish to promote.

Mars isn't warming. I guess that's another thing that your cult failed to inform you about.

Not to worry. I'm sure by now you must be very used to reality shooting you down.

So is there any cult myth that you haven't fallen for? Even one?

Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says

Mars, too, appears to be enjoying more mild and balmy temperatures.

In 2005 data from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions revealed that the carbon dioxide "ice caps" near Mars's south pole had been diminishing for three summers in a row.

Habibullo Abdussamatov, head of space research at St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia, says the Mars data is evidence that the current global warming on Earth is being caused by changes in the sun.

"The long-term increase in solar irradiance is heating both Earth and Mars," he said.

More 'unsettled science' -- I suppose...

 

[Damaged Eagle]

The only cult ignoring looking at outside sources are the global warming alarmists. That or the civilization on Mars is suffering from to much CO2 being pumped into their atmosphere causing their ice caps to shrink also. Oh wait!!!!! There isn't a civilization on Mars is there... Maybe it's because the solar radiation increased and now it's decreasing and that's why a prominent Russian institution is saying we're now in a period of global cooling. Contrary to what you cultist wish to promote.

Mars isn't warming. I guess that's another thing that your cult failed to inform you about.

Not to worry. I'm sure by now you must be very used to reality shooting you down.

So is there any cult myth that you haven't fallen for? Even one?

You're right. For the last ten years it's been getting increasingly cooler just like the earth has because the solar radiation has been decreasing. But then your global warmist cult doesn't take solar radiation as a factor for figuring the stats which is why they have to manipulate the figures to prove their fake news. Sound familiar or do you need a refresher course on how polls are 'so correct' when listening to the progressive news channel? Yep! The progressive would never drop a figure to rig anything to suit their agenda.

*****CHUCKLE*****

 

[mamooth]

You're right. For the last ten years it's been getting increasingly cooler just like the earth has because the solar radiation has been decreasing.

As the earth has been getting steadily warmer, what are you babbling about?

But then your global warmist cult doesn't take solar radiation as a factor for figuring the stats

How is solar radiation a factor in reading a thermometer, and seeing that thermometer read hotter? You're not making any sense.

which is why they have to manipulate the figures to prove their fake news.

Oh, you're a Trump-snowflake. The "fake news" thing gave it away. Why didn't you say so? I would have dumbed things down a lot more for you. Because I care, that's why.

Sound familiar or do you need a refresher course on how polls are 'so correct' when listening to the progressive news channel? Yep! The progressive would never drop a figure to rig anything to suit their agenda.

When you go off on poltical raves like that, you reveal that you're obviously a political cultist. The science isn't political, which is why those of us who know the science don't rave about politics. The science won't change just because the facts are inconvenient to your political cult.

 

[mamooth]

Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says

Cool, you got the crazy Russian "Ice age real soon!" guy to agree with you!

Interesting is his claim that solar irradiance is increasing. Bizarre.

Here are some of the real scientists discussing Mars.

Global warming on Mars?
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The shrinkage of the Martian South Polar Cap is almost certainly a regional climate change, and is not any indication of global warming trends in the Martian atmosphere
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[flacaltenn]

Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says

Cool, you got the crazy Russian "Ice age real soon!" guy to agree with you!

Interesting is his claim that solar irradiance is increasing. Bizarre.

Here are some of the real scientists discussing Mars.

Global warming on Mars?
---
The shrinkage of the Martian South Polar Cap is almost certainly a regional climate change, and is not any indication of global warming trends in the Martian atmosphere
---

Oh great. Same people trying to minimize actual EMPIRICAL evidence in different planet climate zones by making the argument --- it AINT' GLOBAL. Or its' convenient buddy -- But it IS GLOBAL. Do I care if actual empirical evidence on Mars is GLOBAL?? WHY? Because last time I checked, we didn't have a fleet of 10 or 12 weather satellites making "global" daily measurements of Mars. At least not consistently over decades...

But then -- I'm rational and sane and by your replies and tone -- it's obvious that you are not Squidward.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

You're right. For the last ten years it's been getting increasingly cooler just like the earth has because the solar radiation has been decreasing.

As the earth has been getting steadily warmer, what are you babbling about?

But then your global warmist cult doesn't take solar radiation as a factor for figuring the stats

How is solar radiation a factor in reading a thermometer, and seeing that thermometer read hotter? You're not making any sense.

which is why they have to manipulate the figures to prove their fake news.

Oh, you're a Trump-snowflake. The "fake news" thing gave it away. Why didn't you say so? I would have dumbed things down a lot more for you. Because I care, that's why.

Sound familiar or do you need a refresher course on how polls are 'so correct' when listening to the progressive news channel? Yep! The progressive would never drop a figure to rig anything to suit their agenda.

When you go off on poltical raves like that, you reveal that you're obviously a political cultist. The science isn't political, which is why those of us who know the science don't rave about politics. The science won't change just because the facts are inconvenient to your political cult.

It's the progressives that have made science into a political agenda. That's why it took a non-scientific bureaucrat to receive a Nobel Prize for your 'settled science' that doesn't take all factors into consideration. If the science is so 'settled' he and those who support the agenda sure do set a fine example of cutting back on their CO2 emissions to convince everyone to follow suit. Oh wait!!!!! This is one of those 'Do as I say don't do as I do' things isn't it?

*****CHUCKLE*****