War with Iran?

[GoneBezerk]

So your strategy is to wait until nutjobs use a nuke to respond to them?

Uh...they don't care at that point, dumbass.

How can we afford another war? It all comes down to money. People are frankly sick of war. What is the point?

There is no point, that's the only point... The most sane option is simply advising anyone with nukes, that if they nuke any of our allies, they get lit up. We're done wasting lives and treasure on the crazy SNs.

 

[GoneBezerk]

Like I said, you're a fucking idiot with no clue about what will happen.

Oh, those that will be "tasked" to carry out the mission are volunteers.

Don't worry, nobody is going to bother you, because you're worthless and not needed, despite being an internet blowhard with a big ego.

Dumbfuck....USCENTCOM has it under control....I know.

Are you so fucking stupid to believe people here would be needed to handle Iran????

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So when is the online Rambo community suiting up and heading over there?

Seems to me you could get some pretty good group discounts.

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Cool, so the online Rambos can just pound their chests and watch others die.

Again.

Man, what a gig, huh?

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[Mac1958]

Hey, and by the way, if you're right I'm sure Obama would get the credit.

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Like I said, you're a fucking idiot with no clue about what will happen.

Oh, those that will be "tasked" to carry out the mission are volunteers.

Don't worry, nobody is going to bother you, because you're worthless and not needed, despite being an internet blowhard with a big ego.

Dumbfuck....USCENTCOM has it under control....I know.

Are you so fucking stupid to believe people here would be needed to handle Iran????

Cool, so the online Rambos can just pound their chests and watch others die.

Again.

Man, what a gig, huh?

.

 

[GoneBezerk]

Wow....you can post pics.

Oh, I made changes to the plan, dumbfuck. I'm more important than you on this subject....

ADM Mullen finally admitted we had a plan when it was above TS, but got leaked.

So what were you saying about Rambo being in the plan....I didn't see him, plus he is too old.

Like I said, you're a fucking idiot with no clue about what will happen.

Oh, those that will be "tasked" to carry out the mission are volunteers.

Don't worry, nobody is going to bother you, because you're worthless and not needed, despite being an internet blowhard with a big ego.

Cool, so the online Rambos can just pound their chests and watch others die.

Again.

Man, what a gig, huh?

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[Desperado]

So when did those countries claim they want to wipe Israel off the planet?

Yep ---- Talk about a Simpleton.
I forgot with you, it is all about Israel.
Let me ask you, if you care so much about Israel, why haven't you moved there and joined their army?

I forgot... you are all talk and no action...

Piss off, wannabe Ninja

 

[GoneBezerk]

Since most of you simpletons believe you know our relationship with Israel and how we will deal with Iran....first a simple question.

What US Combatant Command does Israel fall under? Which US Commander works with Israel?

 

[GoneBezerk]

Dumbfuck...I joined the military here in this country, unlike you.

I didn't realize I also needed to go join the Israeli military as a non-citizen/non-Jew to have an educated opinion on Israel and their relationship with the US.

So when did those countries claim they want to wipe Israel off the planet?

Yep ---- Talk about a Simpleton.
I forgot with you, it is all about Israel.
Let me ask you, if you care so much about Israel, why haven't you moved there and joined their army?

I forgot... you are all talk and no action...

Piss off, wannabe Ninja

 

[GoneBezerk]

The typical twit here going nuts over stopping Iran from getting nukes usually:

1) Has no military experience, but likes to call others Rambo
2) Is a socialist, muslim or losertarian
3) Doesn't like Christians and Jews
4) Doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground
5) Would rather have taxes spent on goodies for them

 

[Dissent]

People like bezerk care more about Israel than they do the US...kind of sad,hell its really sad you care more for another country than your own.That is the only reason he wants to nuke Iran...he hates Islam and Arabs.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Yup, GittlerBoy continues to lie.

The typical guy here who believes Iran has to be stopped without going to war as only the last final choice.
(1) is a vet with experience
(2) is a Christian or Jew
(3) is a Christain or Jew
(4) pays his full share of taxes
(5) believes all should pay their fair share.

GlitterBoy, go back to serving your male customers.

 

[Desperado]

Since most of you simpletons believe you know our relationship with Israel and how we will deal with Iran....first a simple question.

What US Combatant Command does Israel fall under? Which US Commander works with Israel?

But you failed to answer my question:
Is it the responsibility of the United States to determine which country is allow to have a Nuclear Program?

 

[Rocko]

Since most of you simpletons believe you know our relationship with Israel and how we will deal with Iran....first a simple question.

What US Combatant Command does Israel fall under? Which US Commander works with Israel?

But you failed to answer my question:
Is it the responsibility of the United States to determine which country is allow to have a Nuclear Program?

Yes.

 

[kyzr]

So your strategy is to wait until nutjobs use a nuke to respond to them?
Uh...they don't care at that point, dumbass.

Would you send your kid there to take their nukes, or just let them know about their extinction probability? Chikin-hawks are always willing to send someone else's kid over to fight and die for their stupid ideology.

 

[Desperado]

The typical twit here going nuts over stopping Iran from getting nukes usually:

1) Has no military experience, but likes to call others Rambo
2) Is a socialist, muslim or losertarian
3) Doesn't like Christians and Jews
4) Doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground
5) Would rather have taxes spent on goodies for them

Did GoneBezerk just describe himself?
typical twit going nuts over stopping Iran from getting nukes....Check
Has no military experience, but likes to call others Rambo....Check
Doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground....Check
Would rather have taxes spent on goodies for them....Check

 

[U2Edge]

There are many issues that one has to consider regarding Iran obtaining nuclear weapons. Its not as simple as" I'll nuke you if you nuke us".

You make a number of good points, however they are not new and each of your points could have been used when India, Pakistan, North Korea all went nuclear.

1. If Iran obtains nuclear weapons, Iran may feel that it can take actions with its conventional and unconventional forces that it would not have taken in the past. They may see nuclear weapons as a deterent to other countries intervening in whatever actions they may take in the Persian Gulf, Iraq, Israel or Lebanon. Iran with nuclear weapons may mean bolder actions by Iran, and less interference from the international community in regards to such actions. .

1. If Pakistan obtains nuclear weapons, Iran may feel that it can take actions with its conventional and unconventional forces that it would not have taken in the past. They may see nuclear weapons as a deterent to other countries intervening in whatever actions they may take in the Persian Gulf, Iraq, Israel or Lebanon. Pakistan with nuclear weapons may mean bolder actions by Pakistan, and less interference from the international community in regards to such actions.



2. If India obtains nuclear weapons, it will obviously do whatever it takes to prevent them from being destroyed. India certainly would never want to be in a position where its nuclear forces were destroyed in a first strike by Pakistan. The danger is that India could by mistake launch a nuclear attack on a nation such as Pakistan if they thought a first strike against their nuclear forces was already in progress. Its the Use them or lose them senerio and it will be alive and well the second India deploys nuclear weapons for the first time.



3. If North Korea develops nuclear weapons, the following countries may also decide they need nuclear weapons as well: South Korea, Japan, and Thailand. Several more Pacific Rim countries might also jump on the bandwagon. That does not make for a safer world at all.

4. As dangerous as the Cold War between the Soviet Union and the United States was there were over time, many confidence building measures that both countries built up to reduce the chances of a mistake or a mis-caculation of starting a nuclear war. But none of these things will be in place the day Iran decides to deploy its first nuclear weapon.

Was true when India, Pakistan, North Korea went nuclear.

So there are multiple problems with Iran developing nuclear weapons that have nothing to do with Iran giving nuclear weapons to terrorist or openly deciding to launch and unprovoked attack with nuclear weapons. Iran with nuclear weapons will be a serious and complex problem.

Actually there are multiple problems when any country developing nuclear weapons that have nothing to do with that country giving nuclear weapons to terrorist or openly deciding to launch and unprovoked attack with nuclear weapons. Any country with nuclear weapons will be a serious and complex problem. The question is, "Is it the responsibility of the United States to determine who is allow to have a Nuclear Program?"

Ah, but there is a difference with Iran vs Pakistan and India. The Pakistanian and Indian situation is one that is more contained to just the two states. The rivelry and conflict is primarily between them and no one else. In a sense, it is rather isolated and one sides development of new weapons does not prompt other countries to develop new weapons themselves because they are not involved in the Indian/Pakistan conflict. Pakistan also has its nuclear forces dispersed across the country. They are dispersed in such a way that Pakistan cannot immediately respond with nuclear weapons in a conflict, but nor can its nuclear capability be completely destroyed in a first strike by India. Certainly if Iran were to follow such a Pakistani model it would reduce tensions with Israel and its neighbors, but there is no sign that would be the case.

With Iran, there are many countries involved. Much of the worlds resources in oil and natural gas are at risk. Those risk and pressures are not present in the Indian/Pakistan conflict.

With North Korea you may have an example that could fit with Iran. I would say the differences are that North Korea is more reserved in its international actions than Iran is. Iran has been actively supporting terrorism for years and has been involved in a major war in the last 30 years. North Korea, with the exception of certain border actions has not been to war since 1953. Another factor is that North Korean development of its nuclear power and weapons has been rather embarrassing for the country. The results of their tests have been weak. Their ballistic missile program has been littered with failures. I still have yet to see confirmed evidence that they have put a nuclear warhead on a missile and have set up where they could launch on any given warning.

I also don't see North Korea having an adversary in the way Iran considers Israel to be an adversary. The Nuclear powers involved in the region are either far away like the United States or semi-allies like Russia and China. The countries that North Korea has both the capability and the possible motive to target with nuclear weapons like South Korea and Japan are not armed with nuclear weapons. Also in the case of South Korea, it is bordering state which makes the use of nuclear weapons against it a complicated factor given that ground burst could cause fallout that could drift back over into North Korea and air burst could impact North Korea because of the EMP effect. Israel and Iran are far enough from one another that they would not be immediately impacted by their own nuclear weapons detonating in the other country.

But North Korea is something to think about, and one could say that we have so far dodged a bullet, or that the situation has yet to fully materialize into the destabilizing threat it could be. Pakistan and India is a unique and isolated situation and Pakistan has already taken steps to prevent the use them or lose them senerio.

The United States is trying to reduce its number of nuclear weapons while at the same time preventing new countries from starting nuclear weapons programs. The world is safer when the number of nuclear weapons powers is limited and when those nuclear weapons states have low numbers of weapons and multiple built in safe guards to prevent accidents and other types of dangerous incidents.

 

[Pheonixops]

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So when is the online Rambo community suiting up and heading over there?

Seems to me you could get some pretty good group discounts.

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funny and true!

 

[Pheonixops]

The typical twit here going nuts over stopping Iran from getting nukes usually:

1) Has no military experience, but likes to call others Rambo
2) Is a socialist, muslim or losertarian
3) Doesn't like Christians and Jews
4) Doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground
5) Would rather have taxes spent on goodies for them

Did GoneBezerk just describe himself?
typical twit going nuts over stopping Iran from getting nukes....Check
Has no military experience, but likes to call others Rambo....Check
Doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground....Check
Would rather have taxes spent on goodies for them....Check

Beware of the person who tries to drop too many military acronyms and tries to act like they are "in the know" and "involved". It's been my experience that people who are truly "in the know" and are truly "involved", keep their fucking mouths shut about it and don't go and announce it on a public message board!

 

[Billo_Really]

Iran is going to kill EVERYONE?

Dumbfuck...I thought you said Iran was weak and peaceful, but now they are going to kill everyone on the planet????

Yet again you show you're stupid and fucked in the head too, boy.

People who want war with Iran are mad! You are sick, war-mongering pieces of shit. You are the most un-American garbage I've seen in a long time. Fuck you, skum, you're going to get everyone killed.

War with Iran will put us in direct military confrontation with Russia.

Once that happens, its game over.

 

[tjvh]

It will be funny watching obamas minions get behind him when he attacks Iran.

Isn't it sad how War seems just fine with most Liberals when it's a Democrat pushing the button.

 

[GoneBezerk]

Dumbfuck, we have been using non-lethal methods for years with Iran and they keep moving to their grand prize of nukes.

Eventually they will get nukes unless someone drops bombs on their facilities and people running those facilities, you stupid pile of shit.

They could care less if their slaves of society suffer from sanctions, they are a religious dictatorship and dictators only care about themselves. You are too stupid to understand this concept.

Yup, GittlerBoy continues to lie.

The typical guy here who believes Iran has to be stopped without going to war as only the last final choice.
(1) is a vet with experience
(2) is a Christian or Jew
(3) is a Christain or Jew
(4) pays his full share of taxes
(5) believes all should pay their fair share.

GlitterBoy, go back to serving your male customers.