Want to cut taxes??

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    Why should anyone want to cut the U.S. military budget? Because conservatives are squealing like stuck pigs on Brokenback Mountain to lower taxes,.........it's trendy. Secondly, it takes over half of the budget as the pie chart below explains.


    One reason is that -- with $549 billion requested for basic military expenditures and another $159 billion requested for U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan -- the record $708 billion military spending called for by the Obama administration for fiscal 2011 will be nearly equivalent to the military spending of all other nations in the world combined. When it comes to military appropriations, the U.S. government already spends about seven times as much as China, thirteen times as much as Russia, and seventy-three times as much as Iran.

    Is this really necessary? During the Cold War, the United States confronted far more dangerous and numerous military adversaries, including the Soviet Union. And the U.S. government certainly possessed an enormous and devastating military arsenal, as well as the armed forces that used it. But in those years, U.S. military spending accounted for only 26 percent of the world total. Today, as U.S. Congressman Barney Frank has observed, "we have fewer enemies and we're spending more money."

    Where does this vast outlay of U.S. tax dollars -- the greatest military appropriations in U.S. history -- go? One place is to overseas U.S. military bases. According to Chalmers Johnson, a political scientist and former CIA consultant, as much as $250 billion per year is used to maintain some 865 U.S. military facilities in more than forty countries and overseas U.S. territories.

    The money also goes to fund vast legions of private military contractors. A recent Pentagon report estimated that the Defense Department relies on 766,000 contractors at an annual cost of about $155 billion, and this figure does not include private intelligence organizations. A Washington Post study, which included all categories, estimated that the Defense Department employs 1.2 million private contractors.

    How Much Is Enough? America's Runaway Military Spending | World | AlterNet




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    While national offense is certainly bloated beyond belief, I see a whole pile in that green part of the pie that isn't any of the feds' business to start with.

    Housing? - Nope.
    Health? - Nope.
    Edumacation? - Nope.
    Community Development? - Hardly.
    Agriculture? - Nuh-uh.
    Environment? - Not even.
    Science and Energy? - Negative.

    Like I keep saying and the chart backs up...It's not the taxes, it's the spending.
     
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    Of course you have to spend to have a need to tax, and the chart also indicates that spending on military is a number one place to cut, an area out of control, and consuming far more than any other programs for the US citizens. If you want to stop a charging bull, you don't clip his toe nails. You have to take the head and horns.

    I am for cutting everything on the list, but lets take out military spending first. A complete non-necessity item. Or you might like my idea to take the ability to fund legislation away from Congress & the President, and eliminate the IRS and federal taxes all together.
     
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    "Provide for the common defense" is in the Constitution so good luck with eliminating that.

    The idea of eliminating the IRS is a great idea but just remember that the last government person to move against large government entities was assassinated for it. No politician has the balls to do it and until the people march on DC with guns, pitchforks and torches it aint gonna' happen.
     
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    no asswipe we don't want to cut taxes, we just want the leeching 50% of youse who don't pay any federal income tax to pay some. that's what we want we are tired of carrying your dead weight asses around.
     
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    Just like I say about raising taxes, the first issue for our government is not to address revenue - but to address expenditures.
    I am 110% confident that the Federal Budget could be dramatically improved without raising taxes by 1 red cent - if only either party would take an ounce of responsibility over how to SPEND the money.
     
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    EMPIRES cost money.

    A lot of money.

    If we're willing to give up the US empire we can then afford to cut back on our military spending.

    But don't count on us doing that anytime soon.

    If somebody else was paying a couple million soliders to work on your behalf so you could get control the world's resources and economy, would you like that?

    Of course you would.

    Well, those somebodies else who are paying for the EMPIRE are the US taxpayers, and the people getting the benefits of EMPIRE are the same people who control the government which controls the spending.

    And who are those lucky people?

    Well, who is demanding that every OTHER kind of spending our government does -- spending that actually does help the American people -- ought to be cut, INSTEAD of military spending?

    Those would be the people benefitting from this costly Empire.

    I'll leave it to ya'll to figure out who those somebodies really are.

    He's a few hints though.

    It isn't tree huggers and it isn't welfare mothers, and it isn't gun nuts or NASCAR fans, or red necks, or hippies and it isn't conservatives or liberals or rank and file libertarians.

    And finally, it isn't your neighbors that you don't like because you disapprove of their lifestyle choices either.

    So while you morons are squabbling with each other, while you're voting out of nothing but pure spite, not FOR SOMETHING but AGAINST the people you think you hate, the masters are fleecing you and your children of their birthright.

    A house divided cannot stand, folks.

    Enjoy your hate and your pathetic senses of superiority over "the others" while you can because the masters are about the business of ending your American dreams and they really don't give a fig what happens to you and yours.

    They got theirs, kids, get yours.
     
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    I think we could save a lot of money on taxes if the President would just stop taking so many vacations.
     
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