Said1 said:And good luck with the getting screwed thing. :wank:
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Said1 said:And good luck with the getting screwed thing. :wank:
jimnyc said:Jim needs to be screwed.
KarlMarx said:Wow.... it's bad enough that he got banned. But he threatens to commit crimes and does it IN WRITING! Aren't threatening emails illegal?
How stupid can he get?
Freedom of speech.... that applies to the government, doesn't it? I don't think that privately owned institution are held to that. For example, if I started cursing loudly in a restaurant and was being a loud, obnoxious nuisance, the management would be within their rights to throw me out. Isn't that what bouncers do in bars?
I'm not an attorney, nonetheless, I don't believe Wade's freedom of speech was violated. He isn't being prevented from joining other message boards (there are thousands of them).
Other boards also ban posters who break their terms and conditions of use, and delete offensive and inappropriate messages. Wade agreed to those terms and conditions just like the rest of us.
-=d=- said:here's some spank material -
Mary on the left, a guy named Greg in the middle, mary's pal Kylie on the right
musicman said:Great points, Karl. If wade's standards of "freedom of speech" applied consistently on message boards, DU would be in court 24/7!
JOKER96BRAVO said:What a tool!!!!!!!!
Sir Evil said:Sage - I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume you are asking "why the censorship" as to what the hell Wade is talking about! I couldn't imagine you would mean that against the board after our very heated begining!
sagegirl said:Maybe censorship was a strong word to use, but Wade is banned from posting, correct? Now someone answered that Jimmy rules, I am just wondering if banning is arbitrary, is it subject to rules, is it a matter of style and content. I do not mean to say anything against the board I just want to know.
I suppose we all find people that post things we like to read, even if we dont agree with what they say. I am not defending Wade, but his post's did usually turn into name calling on both sides and anything he did have to say, IF he had anything to say, was obscured by the noise. I have taken a few low blows here myself. I know I'm part of the minority opinion here, and I find it challenging and interesting so I continue on. However, I also feel like when someone posts something really unpopular the opposition gets very personal, and yes it comes with the territory, but in some cases it does overshadow and interrupts what could be an honest debate over an issue.
Is this more a message board to just tout your point of view or is it intended as a forum for debate. I'm asking this in good faith, I think it is a fair question..
sagegirl said:Maybe censorship was a strong word to use, but Wade is banned from posting, correct? Now someone answered that Jimmy rules, I am just wondering if banning is arbitrary, is it subject to rules, is it a matter of style and content.
Sir Evil said:A fair question indeed! We are both a message board as well as a forum of debate, it all depends on how you wish to use it.
We hold everyone on the board to the same standard of rules, I myself have been banned for a few days! I have banned family and friends as well. I also took the time to explain the weeding out process to you, the difference between people just looking to stir up trouble and those that wish to truly say something. We have plenty people here with different views, We could use a few more. The fact is that 9 out of 10 new members that come aboard with different views are not grown up enough to control themselves in an orderly fashion when posting. We have banned several conservative members here as well. I myself have had words with some of our conservative members and have had great debates with liberal thinkers. So no, their is no double standards when it comes down to who stays and who goes, if that were the case you would be on borrowed time as I agree with nothing that you have stated so far! However, you show the initiative to want a good debate and not just seeking to stir the pot. Jim mentioned that he banned Wade twice previously, what he didn't mention that Wade was also banned by myself once as well as by another moderator, so he has had several chances and chose not to adhere to the rules on several occasions. I wouls say that we have been more than fair!
sagegirl said:I have taken a few low blows here myself.
Sir Evil said:QueBall - Wade had a habit of making accusations in his posts without any thing to back up his claims, although there is nothing against the rules about that it did lead to a lot of bickering. His biggest mistake was airing out complaints on the open forums which is something that is clearly against the rules! Too many times he found it to be necessary to claim we were not fair out in public forums when he has been treated as fairly if not more than many others. His only reason to come and post was to create trouble on the board, after a while this gets old so he was issued his walking papers!
dumphauler said:wade will be missed.
As far as my threats being to do anything illegal, I made no such threats. I can join your board again if I wish and you are unable to detect it (very easily done since I have multiple machines and ISP's), and once a member I can post whatever I want until you ban me. Banning me is your only recourse as long as what I post is not illegal. So if I choose to put a load of garbage posts on your board, or repeat a post in every thread, that is not illegal.
As far as burning your bandwidth, that can be done simply by promoting your board and driving a lot of people to open a large page. Nothing illegal about that either.
Finally, even if I were to do something illegal, it'd have to cost you $5000 in demonstratable losses before the courts would even consider pursuing it. But I will not knowingly break the law, it's a matter of principal. I'm sure you can tell that I've not even pinged your IP or scanned your ports.
So just enjoy your little club of neo-nazi butt lickers. You can all sit around and agree with each other, that makes for a very dull board doesn't it? Someday, I may decide to post on your board again, but it will be at least a month because right now I'm just too angry.
Eightball said:Since I'm rather new here, could someone summarize what Wade was doing that got him bounced out of here?
Regards, Eightballsidepocket