WA School Mistaken: Satan Group Is A Hate Group & Can't Use Campus Therefore

[Silhouette]

Freedom is great. If the Satanists want to embody depicting all other people of faith as "tyrannical and oppressive"; that's their right. Just not on school grounds where that amounts to demonizing (hating) kids who are religious there.

They screwed up. Their intro was a fail.

Don't Christians depict all other people as sinners who are bound for hell? Is that not demonizing (hating) kids who are not Christian?

No, they don't. They depict all of THEIR OWN people as sinners as a requirement to join Christianity and stay within the fold. The first thing you do and stay doing when you are a Christian is to announce you are with sin. Purging sin is a never ending process and so, if Christians were without sin, there'd be nobody going to church. The Christian church even encourages compassion and camaraderie with other faiths. Just not the Satanists faith because they've announced long ago (LONG ago) that their essence is "the defiance of all things Godlike or moral". So yeah, bit of a dogma clash there..

The Christian edict is to "hate the sin but love the sinner". In contrast, the church of the Satanists professes to demonize other religious folk as "tyrannical and oppressive". Ie: their edict is "hate others who aren't like us". So, that was their mistake. Like I said before, live and learn..

 

[Montrovant]

Freedom is great. If the Satanists want to embody depicting all other people of faith as "tyrannical and oppressive"; that's their right. Just not on school grounds where that amounts to demonizing (hating) kids who are religious there.

They screwed up. Their intro was a fail.

Don't Christians depict all other people as sinners who are bound for hell? Is that not demonizing (hating) kids who are not Christian?

No, they don't. They depict all of THEIR OWN people as sinners as a requirement to join Christianity and stay within the fold. The first thing you do and stay doing when you are a Christian is to announce you are with sin. Purging sin is a never ending process and so, if Christians were without sin, there'd be nobody going to church. The Christian church even encourages compassion and camaraderie with other faiths. Just not the Satanists faith because they've announced long ago (LONG ago) that their essence is "the defiance of all things Godlike or moral". So yeah, bit of a dogma clash there..

The Christian edict is to "hate the sin but love the sinner". In contrast, the church of the Satanists professes to demonize other religious folk as "tyrannical and oppressive". Ie: their edict is "hate others who aren't like us". So, that was their mistake. Like I said before, live and learn..

Your only argument, as usual, is to lie.

 

[Silhouette]

Well it isn't a lie and because it isn't a lie, the WA school board in question can legally keep the Satanist's "intolerance message" (which is the core of their deal) off campus.

 

[FA_Q2]

Freedom is great. If the Satanists want to embody depicting all other people of faith as "tyrannical and oppressive"; that's their right. Just not on school grounds where that amounts to demonizing (hating) kids who are religious there.

They screwed up. Their intro was a fail.

Don't Christians depict all other people as sinners who are bound for hell? Is that not demonizing (hating) kids who are not Christian?

No, they don't. They depict all of THEIR OWN people as sinners as a requirement to join Christianity and stay within the fold. The first thing you do and stay doing when you are a Christian is to announce you are with sin. Purging sin is a never ending process and so, if Christians were without sin, there'd be nobody going to church. The Christian church even encourages compassion and camaraderie with other faiths. Just not the Satanists faith because they've announced long ago (LONG ago) that their essence is "the defiance of all things Godlike or moral". So yeah, bit of a dogma clash there..

The Christian edict is to "hate the sin but love the sinner". In contrast, the church of the Satanists professes to demonize other religious folk as "tyrannical and oppressive". Ie: their edict is "hate others who aren't like us". So, that was their mistake. Like I said before, live and learn..

Your only argument, as usual, is to lie.

Just not seeing the inner reason or the chinks in the outer 'ridiculousness.'

 

[Silhouette]

Gotta give Monty points for trying though...He REALLY WANTS that Satanist group on school grounds; existing to teach students that "religious students are tyrannical and oppressive!!"....whip up some good old fashioned playground bullying...

 

[Montrovant]

Gotta give Monty points for trying though...He REALLY WANTS that Satanist group on school grounds; existing to teach students that "religious students are tyrannical and oppressive!!"....whip up some good old fashioned playground bullying...

You are so full of crap.

Unlike you, what I want is for groups to have equal access to the facilities, so long as they aren't breaking any laws or school regulations. The Satanic Temple of Seattle has not said what you keep claiming they did, and you're pushing a ridiculous narrative that the group being at a school will lead to bullying of other children, when the reality is that the Satanists are almost certainly more likely to be bullied, being a small, fringe group. You've never worried overly much about truth or reality, though.

 

[Silhouette]

Unlike you, what I want is for groups to have equal access to the facilities, so long as they aren't breaking any laws or school regulations.

OK, so in the interest of fairness, since the Satanist church represents "demonizing all other faiths generally"...you won't mind if an anti-homosexual group meets on campus? No? Wouldn't like that? Might bleed over into children getting bullied on the playground? Kind of how religious kids would be if an anti-religion group met on campus?

Mull it over, asshole. You're right. Either all same or similar groups get to meet on campus, or they don't...

 

[Montrovant]

Unlike you, what I want is for groups to have equal access to the facilities, so long as they aren't breaking any laws or school regulations.

OK, so in the interest of fairness, since the Satanist church represents "demonizing all other faiths generally"...you won't mind if an anti-homosexual group meets on campus? No? Wouldn't like that? Might bleed over into children getting bullied on the playground? Kind of how religious kids would be if an anti-religion group met on campus?

Mull it over, asshole. You're right. Either all same or similar groups get to meet on campus, or they don't...

The Satanic Temple of Seattle does not represent "demonizing all other faiths generally". Why do you put that in quotes, when it isn't a quote from anyone but the voices in your head?

Anti-homosexual group? Hrm, you mean the way Christians are often anti-homosexual? I wonder what the Good News Bible Club has to say on the subject of homosexuality?

But if a group opposes homosexuality, so long as they go about it in the right way (not making threats, breaking laws, violating school regulations), yes, they should have access.

Your bullying argument continues to be ridiculous. Considering the numbers involved, any children who attend the Satanic Temple group are far more likely to be bullied. That is the fringe group, the outsiders. Did you never go to school?

 

[Silhouette]

1. The Satanic Temple of Seattle does not represent "demonizing all other faiths generally". Why do you put that in quotes, when it isn't a quote from anyone but the voices in your head?...2. Anti-homosexual group? Hrm, you mean the way Christians are often anti-homosexual? I wonder what the Good News Bible Club has to say on the subject of homosexuality?...3. But if a group opposes homosexuality, so long as they go about it in the right way (not making threats, breaking laws, violating school regulations), yes, they should have access....4. Your bullying argument continues to be ridiculous. Considering the numbers involved, any children who attend the Satanic Temple group are far more likely to be bullied. That is the fringe group, the outsiders. Did you never go to school?

1. The Satanists announced that they consider religions (generally, all of them) as "tyrannical and oppressive". We can go around the mulberry bush all day about this point; but they did it and it was manifest enough to disqualify them as able to meet on school grounds.

2. Christians are not anti-homosexual (noun), they are anti-homosexuality (verb). They teach to love the sinner but hate the sin. And they would never announce a sect that isn't even real as it's name suggests (we were told by the Satanists they don't really worship Satan, in spite of the photo in the OP, but that the name "Satanist" means "we oppose all organized religion"), is "at our core, anti-homosexual (noun)." If they did, no access to school grounds.

3. Homosexuality (verb), not homosexuals (noun). Good, I see you're getting your very distinct difference in grammar all figured out. The people practicing the behavior are separate from it, not forever bound to that behavior as an identity.

4. Nope. When a group announces "our inner core represents complete opposition to group A, B, C or all three combined", and members of those groups attend school, that group cannot meet on school grounds because their presence there would foster and encourage intolerance...which leads predictably as the sun rising in the East ....to bullying...

 

[Montrovant]

1. The Satanic Temple of Seattle does not represent "demonizing all other faiths generally". Why do you put that in quotes, when it isn't a quote from anyone but the voices in your head?...2. Anti-homosexual group? Hrm, you mean the way Christians are often anti-homosexual? I wonder what the Good News Bible Club has to say on the subject of homosexuality?...3. But if a group opposes homosexuality, so long as they go about it in the right way (not making threats, breaking laws, violating school regulations), yes, they should have access....4. Your bullying argument continues to be ridiculous. Considering the numbers involved, any children who attend the Satanic Temple group are far more likely to be bullied. That is the fringe group, the outsiders. Did you never go to school?

1. The Satanists announced that they consider religions (generally, all of them) as "tyrannical and oppressive". We can go around the mulberry bush all day about this point; but they did it and it was manifest enough to disqualify them as able to meet on school grounds.

2. Christians are not anti-homosexual (noun), they are anti-homosexuality (verb). They teach to love the sinner but hate the sin. And they would never announce a sect that isn't even real as it's name suggests (we were told by the Satanists they don't really worship Satan, in spite of the photo in the OP, but that the name "Satanist" means "we oppose all organized religion"), is "at our core, anti-homosexual (noun)." If they did, no access to school grounds.

3. Homosexuality (verb), not homosexuals (noun). Good, I see you're getting your very distinct difference in grammar all figured out. The people practicing the behavior are separate from it, not forever bound to that behavior as an identity.

4. Nope. When a group announces "our inner core represents complete opposition to group A, B, C or all three combined", and members of those groups attend school, that group cannot meet on school grounds because their presence there would foster and encourage intolerance...which leads predictably as the sun rising in the East ....to bullying...

1. Please provide a single quote by the Satanic Temple in which they announce " they consider religions (generally, all of them) as "tyrannical and oppressive"". I have on many occasions reposted the actual quote, which you have in your OP, that does not say what you claim. You are lying.

2. Why is it Christians are anti-homosexuality but not anti-homosexuals, but the Satanic Temple is anti-religious children rather than anti-religion? Considering you're already basing your arguments on a lie about what the Satanic Temple announced, I expect you'll come up with another, or use the same one, to answer this.

3. See 2. Even if the Satanic Temple actually considers all religion tyrannical and oppressive, that's not the same as all religious people. You seem to have difficulty with this "very distinct difference".

4. More continuation of the same lies. Also you continue to ignore that nearly every religion is opposed to other religious beliefs by nature; if your religion is the only true religion, and belief in your religion the only way to avoid some sort of punishment and/or attain paradise, you don't want anyone to believe in anything else.

You have ignored the fact that the Satanic Temple is a small, fringe group and that members of such groups are far more likely to endure bullying.

 

[Silhouette]

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You have ignored the fact that the Satanic Temple is a small, fringe group and that members of such groups are far more likely to endure bullying.

Rapists are a small fringe group too. Does that mean women shouldn't bully them when they find them lurking in their bathrooms or communal showers wearing lipstick as the technicality for "legal" entrance there?

 

[Montrovant]

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You have ignored the fact that the Satanic Temple is a small, fringe group and that members of such groups are far more likely to endure bullying.

Rapists are a small fringe group too. Does that mean women shouldn't bully them when they find them lurking in their bathrooms or communal showers wearing lipstick as the technicality for "legal" entrance there?

What? What kind of ludicrous attempt at an argument is that?

 

[Silhouette]

Well we were and are discussing the poor poor Satanists (that despise all other moral faiths) that a minority practice that the majority objects to being on campus. Remember?

A rapist despises women. The Satanists despise moral faiths.

 

[Montrovant]

Well we were and are discussing the poor poor Satanists (that despise all other moral faiths) that a minority practice that the majority objects to being on campus. Remember?

A rapist despises women. The Satanists despise moral faiths.

So anyone who despises something is the same as a rapist? You complete lunatic. A rapist does not have to despise women, or even rape women. The Satanists don't believe in supernatural based religion, but that doesn't mean they "despise moral faiths".

The Satanists have a different idea of what is a moral faith. Your description of their views is both funny and pathetic. You have consistently lied about what they have said and used wild hyperbolic predictions to try to make an argument that the group should be denied equal access to the facility, I can only assume because you don't like them. It's remarkably similar to how you argue against all things homosexual, by lying and making up wild predictions that never come true.

A rapist despises women. You despise homosexuals. See how that connection is ridiculous?

 

[Silhouette]

Well we were and are discussing the poor poor Satanists (that despise all other moral faiths) that a minority practice that the majority objects to being on campus. Remember?

A rapist despises women. The Satanists despise moral faiths.

So anyone who despises something is the same as a rapist?

No, anyone who despises a group of people isn't allowed on school grounds for meetings. Try to remember the topic.

 

[Montrovant]

Well we were and are discussing the poor poor Satanists (that despise all other moral faiths) that a minority practice that the majority objects to being on campus. Remember?

A rapist despises women. The Satanists despise moral faiths.

So anyone who despises something is the same as a rapist?

No, anyone who despises a group of people isn't allowed on school grounds for meetings. Try to remember the topic.

Remember the topic? Again

You are the one who compared rapists to the Satanic Temple because they both despise someone.

And no, anyone who despises a group of people isn't banned from school grounds for meetings. That is you making things up as usual.

Also as usual, you ignored most of my post.

Queue repetition of your lie about what the Satanic Temple of Seattle has said about its purpose......

 

[Silhouette]

Sorry, the laws I'm looking at say that if a group announces its embodiment is to teach intolerance of others: "Hi, we're the Green Group. Our reason for existing is to hate the Red, Yellow and Blue Groups!" ...it isn't allowed on school grounds where Red, Yellow and Blue groups go for education.

 

[Montrovant]

Sorry, the laws I'm looking at say that if a group announces its embodiment is to teach intolerance of others: "Hi, we're the Green Group. Our reason for existing is to hate the Red, Yellow and Blue Groups!" ...it isn't allowed on school grounds where Red, Yellow and Blue groups go for education.

1. The Satanic Temple of Seattle never said their purpose is to teach intolerance of others. You made that up. I've shown the actual quote (which is in your OP) many times that you keep trying to claim says they consider all religious people tyrannical and oppressive. It does not say that.

2. Your history of misinterpreting and outright lying about the law is clear to anyone who reads many of your posts. I doubt that, if you're actually looking at any laws, they say what you think they do.

 

[Silhouette]

1. The Satanic Temple of Seattle never said their purpose is to teach intolerance of others.

No..lol... They just explained to the world that "Satanist" means (is equal to) "demonizing all other faiths as tyrannical and oppressive". Your technicalities manipulating words and their meaning are not going to save you here. They announced what the essence of their name means "to specifically be intolerant of other faiths". It will foster bullying of kids of religion and faith on school grounds... So it's not allowed. You can argue on their behalf until the cows come home, but you cannot erase the mistake the group made in announcing "what our name means.."..

It was a legal error. One that cost them the use of school grounds.

 

[TooTall]

Just as stupid as a christian club.....

No, Christian clubs don't teach hate of individuals. They teach hatred of sin (an action/verb) but not the sinners (people/noun).

If you want to go back no further than last week I suppose, some of us are well aware of how religion has been leveraged throughout history to wipe out entire groups of human beings.

When and how long ago was that?