Voter ID: How about this?

[rightwinger]

Two options, neither necessarily to the exclusion of the other:

If you do not have or cannot afford (scoff) a state-issued picture ID....

1: Register to vote, get your picture taken. That picture goes into a database, similar to that of the BMV, if not the same one. When you show up to vote w/ your state issued photo ID. the poll workers go to the database, check you against the picture in the database, and then give you a ballot. If there is any question among the poll workers, you get a provisional ballot to be verified later.

2: Register to vote, get your thumbprint scanned. When you show up to vote w/o your state-issued picture ID,. you run your thumb over the scanner and given a green/red light to vote. A red light might be an error, so you cast a provisional ballot to be verified later.

This eliminates any cost to or burden on a low-income voter and therefore eliminates any argument regarding discrimination against same for political purposes.

What say ye?

Good ideas...but how de po folk gonna git to de place fo da picture or da finger print...got no cah got no gas...yo

Its funny how you talk like a black person....I can hardly tell you are white

 

[Care4all]

So many people are so concerned with whipping these citizens in line to what YOU think they should have.....a gvt issued photo ID....

What's next? What American citizens are you going to try to whip next in order for them to "come in Line" to your way of thinking? A gvt issued photo ID for all of those wanting to use a Public toilet? And then ALL children should have a gvt issued photo ID....cuz then we will know who they are if they are lost?

This isn't about the integrity of the vote, and you rightwingers KNOW THIS, and KNOW that this measure that you are insisting on to stop voter fraud, doesn't STOP any kind of voter fraud that could not be stopped by other simpler means....it's a GUISE.... it's a scheme to disenfranchise voters that you think may vote for the "other guy" among other things...

It's a "Hey, look over there..." measure while the guys behind the curtain are stealing votes and disenfranchising left and right.

YOU are PAWNS, thoughtless little pawns...and you pretend to not even know it.

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

Florida requires a photo ID to vote. Does that stop fraud? Nope.

FEMA official charged in voter fraud case

Comrade G50000

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Krebs on Security, a blog that first reported the news, said that breach involved nearly all Target outlets in the United States, citing sources at two credit card issuers.

The breach could have extended from just after Thanksgiving to December 15, Krebs said, citing evidence from investigators.}

Target victim of major credit card breach Reuters

Because showing ID with the credit card did not stop this fraud, you will be demanding that all U.S. retailers stop checking ID for credit card purchases, nyet?

Sounds pretty fucking stupid when viewed objectively, doesn't it?

Actually, ID is almost never checked for credit card transactions...and merchant agreements with the CC companies generally DO NOT PERMIT it.

Florida requires a photo ID to vote. Does that stop fraud? Nope.

FEMA official charged in voter fraud case

Comrade G50000

{
Krebs on Security, a blog that first reported the news, said that breach involved nearly all Target outlets in the United States, citing sources at two credit card issuers.

The breach could have extended from just after Thanksgiving to December 15, Krebs said, citing evidence from investigators.}

Target victim of major credit card breach Reuters

Because showing ID with the credit card did not stop this fraud, you will be demanding that all U.S. retailers stop checking ID for credit card purchases, nyet?

Sounds pretty fucking stupid when viewed objectively, doesn't it?

Actually, ID is almost never checked for credit card transactions...and merchant agreements with the CC companies generally DO NOT PERMIT it.

Credit Cards > Credit Card News > Can retailers ask for ID with your credit card?
Can retailers ask for ID with your credit card?
Card issuer rules vary, as do state laws
By Sonya Stinson
"May I see your ID, please?"

You may never give a second thought to a store clerk's request for identification when you pay with a credit card. But as long as you have signed your card, you may not be required to show that ID to make a purchase.

The question of whether it's a good idea to present an ID sparks plenty of debate between those who see it as a deterrent against fraud and those who think it creates an unnecessary privacy risk.

Networks hold the cards While some states have laws barring a cashier from writing down your ID information, the card networks -- Visa, MasterCard and the like -- have the most say in whether merchants can even ask for identification. The agreements merchants sign when they decide to accept cards from those networks include rules that govern card verification procedures.

All the networks allow a merchant to ask for identification. MasterCard and Visa, however, explicitly prohibit retailers from requiring an ID to accept a properly signed card. "They can ask for that ID, but you can refuse to show the ID and they still must accept the card," says Paul Stephens, director of policy and advocacy at the Privacy Rights Clearinghouse, a nonprofit that advocates for consumer privacy rights.

On the other hand, Visa and MasterCard rules prohibit the acceptance of unsigned cards. If you present one, the merchant must ask you to sign the card and supply an ID. Visa guidelines specify that it must be an official government ID.

Discover's policies are more intrusive. They state that a store employee who has doubts about the validity of a card should "request and review additional identification" from the customer. And for an unsigned card, the company requires two pieces of identification, including one government-issued photo ID.

American Express is more vague. It requires merchants to "verify that the customer is the card member," but its rules make no direct mention of requiring an ID.

"American Express doesn't really have a policy on it," says Linda Sherry, director of national priorities for Consumer Action. "If the merchant wants to ask for an ID, that's fine."

Can retailers ask for ID with your credit card

So where do you get your information??

 

[Uncensored2008]

I don't sign my credit cards. I write "Check ID" on the back.

Then G5000 will claim that you are disenfranchising minorities....

 

[Uncensored2008]

Actually, ID is almost never checked for credit card transactions...and merchant agreements with the CC companies generally DO NOT PERMIT it.

Might be a state law, but ID is ALWAYS checked in California. BofA puts a photo on the CC, so it makes it easy.

I'd need some sort of citation to show that any credit card company would oppose checking ID, that doesn't pass the sniff test.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Its funny how you talk like a black person....I can hardly tell you are white

It's funny how you post like a troll.

Probably because you are a troll...

 

[M14 Shooter]

Two options, neither necessarily to the exclusion of the other:

If you do not have or cannot afford (scoff) a state-issued picture ID....

1: Register to vote, get your picture taken. That picture goes into a database, similar to that of the BMV, if not the same one. When you show up to vote w/ your state issued photo ID. the poll workers go to the database, check you against the picture in the database, and then give you a ballot. If there is any question among the poll workers, you get a provisional ballot to be verified later.

2: Register to vote, get your thumbprint scanned. When you show up to vote w/o your state-issued picture ID,. you run your thumb over the scanner and given a green/red light to vote. A red light might be an error, so you cast a provisional ballot to be verified later.

This eliminates any cost to or burden on a low-income voter and therefore eliminates any argument regarding discrimination against same for political purposes.

What say ye?

Good ideas...but how de po folk gonna git to de place fo da picture or da finger print...got no cah got no gas...yo

At some point, you have to expend some of your own effort if you want to vote.

Who says? And why spend any more time and effort than you have spent the last 20 elections you have voted in?

The point is that having to go somewhere to vote, or to register to vote, does not violate your right to vote.

 

[M14 Shooter]

So many people are so concerned with whipping these citizens in line to what YOU think they should have.....a gvt issued photo ID....

What's next? What American citizens are you going to try to whip next in order for them to "come in Line" to your way of thinking? A gvt issued photo ID for all of those wanting to use a Public toilet? And then ALL children should have a gvt issued photo ID....cuz then we will know who they are if they are lost?

This isn't about the integrity of the vote, and you rightwingers KNOW THIS, and KNOW that this measure that you are insisting on to stop voter fraud, doesn't STOP any kind of voter fraud that could not be stopped by other simpler means....it's a GUISE.... it's a scheme to disenfranchise voters that you think may vote for the "other guy" among other things...

It's a "Hey, look over there..." measure while the guys behind the curtain are stealing votes and disenfranchising left and right.

YOU are PAWNS, thoughtless little pawns...and you pretend to not even know it.

:yawn:
Tell us what you think about needing an ID to buy a gun.

 

[Siete]

Juan is an illegal living in Texas.
Juan goes to his local DMV and gets a DL, issued by the State. .. the DL is a legal document
Juan also checks the box .. Texas Identification Card .. found in the DL application he signed when he applied

the picture that appears on his DL, is the same picture that appears on his ID.. both cards are delivered to his house in the same envelope.. Juan now has a Picture ID.
If that's all It takes to make the Republitards happy, have at it. Juan is a card packing illegal , and the Republitards are idiots.

Like G said, voter registration is the root of the voting process, and THE FIX, not some puissant card anyone can get without so much as the State checking your Citizenship status.

Did I mention RW's are idiots?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Juan is an illegal living in Texas.
Juan goes to his local DMV and gets a DL, issued by the State. .. the DL is a legal document
Juan also checks the box .. Texas Identification Card .. found in the DL application he signed when he applied

Did Juan's voter registration application go though, adding Juan to the voter roll for his precinct?

 

[Siete]

Juan is an illegal living in Texas.
Juan goes to his local DMV and gets a DL, issued by the State. .. the DL is a legal document
Juan also checks the box .. Texas Identification Card .. found in the DL application he signed when he applied

Did Juan's voter registration application go though, adding Juan to the voter roll for his precinct?

his SS card and an electric bill got him a DL so yes, he gets an ID too ..


see how that works you moron ?

 

[Siete]

oooooooooooooo, so now its voter registration ... LMAO


making fun of, and laughing at RW's has become a national hobby ...

 

[M14 Shooter]

Juan is an illegal living in Texas.
Juan goes to his local DMV and gets a DL, issued by the State. .. the DL is a legal document
Juan also checks the box .. Texas Identification Card .. found in the DL application he signed when he applied

Did Juan's voter registration application go though, adding Juan to the voter roll for his precinct?

his SS card and an electric bill got him a DL so yes, he gets an ID too ..

You didn't answer the question.
Did Juan's voter registration application go though, adding Juan to the voter roll for his precinct?

 

[Siete]

Juan is an illegal living in Texas.
Juan goes to his local DMV and gets a DL, issued by the State. .. the DL is a legal document
Juan also checks the box .. Texas Identification Card .. found in the DL application he signed when he applied

Did Juan's voter registration application go though, adding Juan to the voter roll for his precinct?

his SS card and an electric bill got him a DL so yes, he gets an ID too ..

You didn't answer the question.
Did Juan's voter registration application go though, adding Juan to the voter roll for his precinct?

and you didn't mention voter registration until you had voter ID Cards shoved so far up you ass you could read them in the dark .... read my comment about voter registration. then go F yourself, I've already addresses VR, you idiot.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Juan is an illegal living in Texas.
Juan goes to his local DMV and gets a DL, issued by the State. .. the DL is a legal document
Juan also checks the box .. Texas Identification Card .. found in the DL application he signed when he applied

Did Juan's voter registration application go though, adding Juan to the voter roll for his precinct?

his SS card and an electric bill got him a DL so yes, he gets an ID too ..

You didn't answer the question.
Did Juan's voter registration application go though, adding Juan to the voter roll for his precinct?

and you didn't mention voter registration....

Translation: You really have no idea of what this discussion is about.
No real surprise.

 

[Siete]

Like G said, voter registration is the root of the voting process, and THE FIX, not some puissant card anyone can get without so much as the State checking your Citizenship status

post 429.

Damn you're dumb

 

[M14 Shooter]

Like G said, voter registration is the root of the voting process, and THE FIX, not some puissant card anyone can get without so much as the State checking your Citizenship status

You deliberately fail to understand that Juan can get all the ID cards he wants -- if he can't register to vote, they mean nothing.
You also deliberately fail to understand that if the state cannot verify that the person at the poll is actually the person on the registration roll, the registration roll means nothing.
All in all: You fail.

 

[Siete]

LMAO, that's what I said, but if you say so.

you idiot.

 

[M14 Shooter]

LMAO, that's what I said, but if you say so.

You said that you deliberately fail?
Good by me.

 

[boedicca]

Nonsense. Those older voters must have ID to get Social Security payments.

Do you support automatically registering people to vote when they sign up for Social Security payments?

No. Voting and Not Voting are both equally valid choices. Forcing an "opt out" version is government overreach.

You didn't answer his question

You are concerned about voters having proper credentials. Do you support the issuing of credentials and registering to vote for people signing up for Social Security or Welfare?

Personally, I support welfare parasites not being permitted to vote...but that is a different thread.

Should corporate giants receiving Government subsidies be allowed to vote?

Corporations don't vote (their employees and shareholders do); people on welfare do vote.

I don't sign my credit cards. I write "Check ID" on the back.

Only if I write it in Cursive.

Then G5000 will claim that you are disenfranchising minorities....